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| 02:22.34 | Supertank | hi |
| 02:22.48 | Supertank | can i get a bzflag for nintendo wii or xbox? |
| 02:22.52 | Flash | hello |
| 02:23.11 | Flash | probably not here |
| 02:23.17 | Supertank | oh why not |
| 02:23.24 | blast007 | no, there is no port to a console system |
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| 02:23.30 | Theme97 | You can hook up your Wii's controller to the computer... |
| 02:23.37 | Supertank | but isnt console better for gaming? |
| 02:23.45 | Flash | that might be interesting, Theme97 |
| 02:23.46 | CBG | blast007: well, there is anti-spams version for the xbox, remember? |
| 02:23.47 | Supertank | computer so hard for games |
| 02:23.55 | blast007 | Supertank: why would that mean that bzflag would be on a console? |
| 02:24.02 | Theme97 | Some games play better on the computer. |
| 02:24.05 | Theme97 | Others player better on a console. |
| 02:24.13 | Supertank | oh ok |
| 02:24.31 | Flash | since the bzflag source is available, any interested console programmer COULD do a port ;-) |
| 02:24.36 | Supertank | also is there place to get client that jumps on servers like pillbox and ducatis? is hard without jumps |
| 02:24.56 | blast007 | um, no |
| 02:24.57 | CBG | All clients let you jump. |
| 02:25.05 | Flash | those games a not jumping games |
| 02:25.06 | CBG | But not all servers allow it. |
| 02:25.12 | Supertank | well i plays on ducatis and pillbox hepcats and it wont jump |
| 02:25.13 | Tupone | Supertank: are you asking for a cheating client? |
| 02:25.21 | Supertank | so it must be a broke |
| 02:25.30 | Flash | no, that's the way that game is played |
| 02:25.33 | CBG | Not all servers allow jumping. |
| 02:25.38 | blast007 | Supertank: that's because the server disallows jumping |
| 02:25.43 | blast007 | it's a server option |
| 02:25.54 | Supertank | why would that be ?? |
| 02:26.00 | blast007 | because it's an option |
| 02:26.02 | Flash | it defines the game |
| 02:26.10 | Flash | no flags, no jumping, just skill |
| 02:26.31 | Flash | it's a great way to improve your game |
| 02:26.37 | Tupone | jumping is a skill also |
| 02:26.37 | Supertank | and no funs. ok thanks i try to install the linux and makes bzflag clients |
| 02:27.18 | Supertank | yes best skilled player is jumper |
| 02:27.25 | blast007 | haha, no |
| 02:27.31 | Tupone | I have not said that |
| 02:27.39 | Flash | Supertank: I'll take you on ;-) |
| 02:27.48 | L4m3r | Jumping is not a skill. |
| 02:27.54 | L4m3r | NOT jumping is a skill. ;) |
| 02:28.33 | Flash | jump/strafe is a skill |
| 02:28.39 | L4m3r | unless you mean menuvering by jumping, which is pretty easy |
| 02:31.06 | CBG | turning whilst jumping is easy. |
| 02:31.23 | CBG | killing a camper that way can be tricky, depending on who the camper is. |
| 02:32.07 | L4m3r | and whether or not there's bait |
| 02:32.26 | L4m3r | if there's some noob nearby, just wait until the camper diverts his attention, and strike :D |
| 02:32.42 | CBG | yep |
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| 02:36.19 | Supertank | what best linux for bzflags? |
| 02:36.50 | Flash | Mac OS X ;-) |
| 02:37.05 | Supertank | wher i downloads that? |
| 02:37.13 | JeffM2501 | you can't realy call one distro "better" then another |
| 02:37.25 | JeffM2501 | they are all just ways to get the same software into your computer |
| 02:37.34 | JeffM2501 | so install whatever distrobution your comforatble with |
| 02:37.40 | Supertank | well which ones makes bzflag runs better? |
| 02:37.54 | JeffM2501 | dosn't work that way |
| 02:38.07 | JeffM2501 | if they are all configured the same way, they'd all run the same on the same hardware |
| 02:38.27 | JeffM2501 | how much do you know about linux? |
| 02:38.46 | Supertank | well i told it is best os for games and internet |
| 02:38.53 | Supertank | but i dont haves it |
| 02:38.57 | JeffM2501 | that would be somone's opinion |
| 02:39.16 | JeffM2501 | how much do you know about computers and your hardware? |
| 02:39.33 | Supertank | and i read websites that says windows is design to steal you personal data and make hacker bots |
| 02:39.41 | Supertank | so i try to get rids of it |
| 02:39.47 | JeffM2501 | wow |
| 02:39.55 | Supertank | i have dell laptops, lattitude D600 |
| 02:40.18 | JeffM2501 | you haven't answered my question :) |
| 02:40.31 | Supertank | what? |
| 02:40.39 | Supertank | you wants serial number? |
| 02:40.40 | JeffM2501 | how much do you know about comptuers and your hardware |
| 02:40.42 | JeffM2501 | no |
| 02:40.53 | Supertank | this is first computers for me |
| 02:40.56 | JeffM2501 | I'm trying to judge if you can even install linux |
| 02:41.08 | JeffM2501 | then you may want to find somone to help you |
| 02:41.09 | Supertank | in school they teach us the windows |
| 02:41.18 | JeffM2501 | and explain exactly what you'll be doing to your comptuer |
| 02:41.21 | Flash | are you interested in learning how to compile and install software? |
| 02:41.24 | JeffM2501 | how old are you? |
| 02:41.39 | Supertank | 15 |
| 02:41.45 | JeffM2501 | you may want to get your parents help |
| 02:41.51 | L4m3r | ah, I was off by three |
| 02:41.53 | JeffM2501 | as you bascly have to redo the entire OS on the computer |
| 02:41.59 | Flash | (depending on what the parents know) |
| 02:42.03 | Supertank | well they just says computers steal privacy and is no good |
| 02:42.07 | Supertank | they dont like |
| 02:42.12 | JeffM2501 | any comptuer can do that |
| 02:42.49 | Supertank | is that feature? |
| 02:42.50 | JeffM2501 | I would recomend reading up on linux so you understand exactly what your geting into |
| 02:43.11 | Flash | also, find some geek friends to learn with |
| 02:43.19 | JeffM2501 | the only way to make a computer 100% secure is to leave it off the internet and never use it. |
| 02:43.40 | Supertank | oh that is what my fathers says to me |
| 02:43.44 | Supertank | turn off computer |
| 02:43.47 | JeffM2501 | there is always some level of trust you have to give out to some unknown software author |
| 02:44.55 | Flash | Supertank: where do you live? |
| 02:45.36 | Supertank | in the californias |
| 02:45.42 | Supertank | but i moves from poland |
| 02:45.43 | JeffM2501 | there is more then one? |
| 02:46.02 | Supertank | more than one? |
| 02:46.03 | JeffM2501 | I guess if you count baja |
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| 02:47.03 | Supertank | school gives us this computer |
| 02:48.20 | Flash | if the school gave you the computer, they probably want you to use certain software |
| 02:48.33 | Flash | windows software doesn't work on Linux |
| 02:49.00 | Supertank | what they does if i install the linux? |
| 02:49.57 | L4m3r | installing Linux will remove Windows and all the software windows uses. |
| 02:50.04 | Flash | an operating system is special software that makes the hardware work |
| 02:50.18 | Flash | computer programs only work with the operating system for which they were built |
| 02:50.30 | Flash | so Microsoft Office won't run on linux |
| 02:50.54 | Supertank | oh so the linux is not so good if it cant run programs then |
| 02:51.08 | Flash | it runs programs made for linux |
| 02:51.16 | AAA_awright | *headdesh* |
| 02:51.31 | AAA_awright | Programs are designed for their operating system. |
| 02:52.39 | AAA_awright | BZFlag, for example, works on ... (just about anything with a graphics card actually) |
| 02:52.45 | Supertank | i run other games like battelfield2 and warcraft on the linux? |
| 02:53.00 | Flash | (except xbox etc. which is where this started ...) |
| 02:53.22 | AAA_awright | Not without somthing that converts the commands windows uses to the commands Linux uses... try wine... |
| 02:53.25 | CBG | Supertank: some stuff works on Windows AND linux, some on inux only, some on windows only. |
| 02:53.28 | AAA_awright | ~google winehq |
| 02:53.43 | blast007 | or Cedega :) |
| 02:53.48 | CBG | If you use programs on windows, check and see if they will work on linux. Do this BEFORE you change to linux... |
| 02:53.54 | AAA_awright | ~search Cedega |
| 02:54.00 | AAA_awright | ... |
| 02:54.11 | L4m3r | Battlefield 2 and Warcraft are not supported in Linux as far as I know |
| 02:54.20 | AAA_awright | Not officially anyway |
| 02:54.31 | AAA_awright | as in, not compiled for Linux |
| 02:54.34 | blast007 | http://www.transgaming.com/products_linux.php |
| 02:54.38 | blast007 | yeah |
| 02:55.04 | AAA_awright | Someone kick ibot |
| 02:55.10 | CBG | ~ping |
| 02:55.12 | ibot | pong |
| 02:55.16 | AAA_awright | hmmm |
| 02:55.26 | CBG | Why? It's responding to me. |
| 02:55.27 | L4m3r | ibot just hates you, AAA ;) |
| 02:55.36 | L4m3r | did you call ~~~ ? |
| 02:55.52 | AAA_awright | Did I say that? no |
| 02:55.59 | CBG | ~~~~ |
| 02:56.00 | ibot | ARGH!!! STOP IT cbg!!! |
| 02:56.00 | AAA_awright | should I try? |
| 02:56.04 | L4m3r | ~~~ |
| 02:56.05 | ibot | I HATE YOU, l4m3r |
| 02:56.09 | CBG | ~~ |
| 02:56.10 | ibot | hey, that tickles! |
| 02:56.32 | L4m3r | ~stats |
| 02:56.33 | ibot | Since Fri Dec 22 20:00:39 2006, there have been 145 modifications, 1337 questions, 0 dunnos, 0 morons and 857 commands. I have been awake for 14d 6h 55m 53s this session, and currently reference 0 factoids. I'm using about 20844 kB of memory. With 0 active forks. Process time user/system 47422.8/2745.26 child 0.14/0.06 |
| 02:56.38 | AAA_awright | ~pong |
| 02:56.40 | ibot | well, pong is ping |
| 02:56.46 | AAA_awright | (finally) |
| 02:56.49 | L4m3r | still no morons |
| 02:56.52 | CBG | ~lart AAA_awright |
| 02:57.04 | L4m3r | ~dunno |
| 02:57.06 | ibot | [dunno] #1/usr/bin/girl |
| 02:57.16 | L4m3r | o_O |
| 02:57.30 | L4m3r | ~asdfghjkl |
| 02:57.41 | L4m3r | 1337 questions, lol |
| 02:57.43 | L4m3r | ~stats |
| 02:57.44 | ibot | Since Fri Dec 22 20:00:39 2006, there have been 145 modifications, 1339 questions, 0 dunnos, 0 morons and 858 commands. I have been awake for 14d 6h 57m 4s this session, and currently reference 0 factoids. I'm using about 20844 kB of memory. With 0 active forks. Process time user/system 47429.19/2747.02 child 0.14/0.06 |
| 02:57.55 | AAA_awright | ~wikipedia WINE |
| 02:58.17 | AAA_awright | very helpful, thanks ibot... |
| 03:00.21 | Flash | ~moron |
| 03:00.22 | ibot | i heard moron is someone that types long lines starting with "ibot" |
| 03:01.30 | L4m3r | ibot is no moron! I am a moron! |
| 03:01.37 | L4m3r | ~stats |
| 03:01.38 | ibot | Since Fri Dec 22 20:00:39 2006, there have been 145 modifications, 1340 questions, 0 dunnos, 0 morons and 859 commands. I have been awake for 14d 7h 58s this session, and currently reference 0 factoids. I'm using about 20844 kB of memory. With 0 active forks. Process time user/system 47440.73/2748.56 child 0.14/0.06 |
| 03:01.51 | Theme97 | i dunno |
| 03:01.52 | L4m3r | I think the moron and dunno stats are broken |
| 03:02.03 | CBG | They all are... |
| 03:02.11 | L4m3r | or disabled (perhaps ibot used to say "dunno" and "moron" ;) |
| 03:02.15 | CBG | "0 factoids"? yeah... right... |
| 03:02.25 | Flash | ibot wants some moron to type a very long line that has no utility otherwise so it can increment its moron counter otherwise it will have no morons and be a very sad bot |
| 03:02.36 | Supertank | is too confusing. i go to play the bzflag on windows |
| 03:02.47 | Flash | good idea ;-) |
| 03:02.54 | Flash | ~stats |
| 03:02.55 | ibot | Since Fri Dec 22 20:00:39 2006, there have been 145 modifications, 1340 questions, 0 dunnos, 0 morons and 859 commands. I have been awake for 14d 7h 2m 15s this session, and currently reference 0 factoids. I'm using about 20844 kB of memory. With 0 active forks. Process time user/system 47445.13/2749.38 child 0.14/0.06 |
| 03:03.09 | Flash | sigh. If I can't be a moron, what can I be? |
| 03:03.18 | Theme97 | Flash: smart |
| 03:03.27 | AAA_awright | I believe the iMacs (intel macs heh heh) can re-compile PowerPC code into x86, is this possible for, say, binaries between OSs? |
| 03:03.44 | inchworm | virtualization? |
| 03:04.03 | Flash | AAA_awright: you have a couple of misconceptions |
| 03:04.12 | AAA_awright | I thought so... |
| 03:04.14 | AAA_awright | but... |
| 03:04.20 | Flash | the intel mac doesn't "re-compile" PowerPC code |
| 03:04.31 | AAA_awright | *I believe |
| 03:04.38 | Flash | it includes an emulator to run PowerPC code on the Intel processor |
| 03:04.48 | AAA_awright | so it is a full emulator |
| 03:05.00 | Flash | a run-time emulator |
| 03:05.08 | AAA_awright | Okay. Well, becides that |
| 03:06.00 | AAA_awright | It should be possible, in theory, to read the bytecode, and automaticly reverse-engineer it than recompile it with the native OS api... |
| 03:06.30 | Flash | but more to the point, an OS provides basic services, like hardware (video, sound, hard disk) support |
| 03:06.34 | Flash | that is not portable |
| 03:07.24 | AAA_awright | I figured somthing like that... |
| 03:07.56 | Flash | that's why you have to boot into Windows or Linux or MacOS |
| 03:08.07 | Flash | only one OS can control the HW at a time |
| 03:09.49 | inchworm | hmm |
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| 03:10.11 | inchworm | Flash: I got a Mac, now how do i use it? |
| 03:10.15 | inchworm | :P |
| 03:10.44 | AAA_awright | 1) plug it in 2) press power |
| 03:10.45 | Flash | turn it on |
| 03:10.52 | inchworm | hehe |
| 03:10.58 | AAA_awright | usually somewhere on the back.... |
| 03:11.20 | AAA_awright | Oh, yah, having a brain helps... |
| 03:11.25 | CBG | Depends what type of mac... |
| 03:11.25 | inchworm | actually i'm working on it now...have xcode for it and i'm seeing how bzflag compiles |
| 03:11.32 | bryjen | open a door, prop the mac up against it ;) |
| 03:11.44 | CBG | ~lart bryjen |
| 03:12.05 | inchworm | oo make just finished |
| 03:12.12 | bryjen | hey, he didn't say what he wanted to use it for ;) |
| 03:13.17 | L4m3r | if I had a hamster. I'd gut my imac and make it into a cage |
| 03:13.40 | inchworm | hmm need a font directory |
| 03:13.42 | L4m3r | oooh, maybe a fishtank would work... |
| 03:14.04 | CBG | The mere fact that you suggested.... |
| 03:15.31 | L4m3r | Urinal? |
| 03:15.31 | L4m3r | I could even leave the hardware in for that! :D |
| 03:15.31 | CBG | . |
| 03:15.31 | bryjen | the binary needs to run with right current working directory so it can find ./data/fonts/ |
| 03:15.39 | inchworm | ahh |
| 03:15.44 | inchworm | thanks bryjen |
| 03:16.02 | bryjen | or point the -dir to data/ |
| 03:20.43 | inchworm | that works |
| 03:20.53 | inchworm | now i need to find sdl so i can have sound too |
| 03:22.42 | inchworm | hmm www.libsdl.org is under construction |
| 03:22.53 | inchworm | guess i won't make that a priority |
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| 05:38.36 | Flash | Is there a dev around who want's to do me a favor? |
| 05:42.14 | Flash | inchworm: are you still playing on the mac? |
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| 06:03.56 | codergeek42 | Hi, daniel_jackson :) |
| 06:04.06 | daniel_jackson | where's jeff? who said he hey coder |
| 06:04.16 | daniel_jackson | oops! |
| 06:04.26 | daniel_jackson | hey coder |
| 06:06.11 | daniel_jackson | hey have question, on louman's gauntlet server he has like a "designated flag carrying" areas, what plugin is that? |
| 06:06.45 | a_meteorite | flagstay |
| 06:07.07 | daniel_jackson | oh it is |
| 06:07.31 | daniel_jackson | I wanted to use that on our project |
| 06:10.57 | daniel_jackson | Someone needs to give jeff some caffiene pills, he should 24/7! lol |
| 06:11.20 | daniel_jackson | he should stay on here 24/7!lol |
| 06:18.02 | daniel_jackson | hey what do I need to do to get the cvs 2.0.9 branch, because last time I ran cvs I got 2.1 devel |
| 06:18.15 | Flash | ~bz20cvs |
| 06:18.17 | ibot | cvs -d :pserver:anonymous@cvs.bzflag.org:/cvsroot/bzflag co -P -r v2_0branch bzflag |
| 06:18.29 | daniel_jackson | oh ty guys |
| 06:18.32 | Flash | np |
| 06:19.17 | daniel_jackson | believe me it does not help when you have short term memory loss! lol |
| 06:19.34 | Flash | what? |
| 06:19.36 | Flash | huh? |
| 06:19.40 | Flash | who are you? |
| 06:21.03 | daniel_jackson | what do you mean? I'm just a guy with bad memory |
| 06:21.40 | Flash | what are you talking about? who are you? |
| 06:21.48 | blast007 | where am I? |
| 06:21.49 | daniel_jackson | nvrmnd |
| 06:22.14 | blast007 | nah, I thought it was pretty obvious :) |
| 06:23.07 | daniel_jackson | oh me having short term memory loss is no joke |
| 06:23.26 | daniel_jackson | but thats not why I got here |
| 06:23.34 | daniel_jackson | got on here |
| 06:25.22 | daniel_jackson | but thanks for the info, I'm helping meteorite out with a "Top Secret" project |
| 06:25.29 | daniel_jackson | lol |
| 06:28.55 | mbfg | how do people come up with these screen names |
| 06:29.40 | A-Delusion | thinking, sometimes |
| 06:30.01 | blast007 | let's ask Jack O'Neil |
| 06:30.18 | mbfg | heh |
| 06:30.39 | Flash | yeah, that daniel_jackson name is really hard to figure out |
| 06:36.29 | blast007 | Flash: close the iris! |
| 06:36.47 | Flash | my handprint doesn't work! |
| 06:39.18 | brlcad | update late mbfg? |
| 06:40.00 | brlcad | maybe his name really is daniel jackson too :) |
| 06:40.45 | brlcad | for simulated memory loss? |
| 06:40.57 | Flash | Is there a dev around who want's to do me a favor? |
| 06:41.47 | brlcad | define want and then maybe define the favor and it can be more easily answered |
| 06:42.02 | Flash | really? I can't get a blank check???? |
| 06:42.04 | Flash | http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1629098&group_id=3248&atid=303248 |
| 06:42.11 | Guu | Patch #1629098: Add TimeKeeper::short_timestamp(); Resolution: None; Date Submitted: 2007-01-05 14:23; Submitted By: Flash; Assigned To: Nobody/Anonymous; Priority: 5; Status: Open |
| 06:42.16 | mbfg | hmm? |
| 06:42.27 | mbfg | that would be crazy |
| 06:43.33 | brlcad | Flash: ah |
| 06:43.38 | brlcad | already ahead of you |
| 06:44.05 | brlcad | saw the patch too |
| 06:45.40 | brlcad | though i keep reading megabyte/motherboard foreground.. |
| 06:51.01 | brlcad | ~dict timestamp |
| 06:51.57 | brlcad | hmm |
| 06:53.22 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * 10bzflag/README: update version to next expected release |
| 06:53.47 | mbfg | yup |
| 06:54.40 | brlcad | actually took learner the better half of an hour to come up with his when he first started... :) |
| 06:54.47 | brlcad | but brlcad was quick n easy :) |
| 06:55.20 | brlcad | mbfg: I'm "almost" done with lazarus if you can believe it |
| 06:56.28 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * 10bzflag/include/Flag.h: one per line, alphabetical order so they can be more easily reviewed |
| 06:59.08 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * 10bzflag/src/common/Flag.cxx: |
| 06:59.08 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: list flags one per line, sorted in alphabetical order so they can be more easily |
| 06:59.08 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: reviewed. particularly useful here given there are several flag 'lists' in this |
| 06:59.09 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: file that need to be in sync. Better would be one list and move towards one |
| 06:59.09 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: file per flag, but let's not get too nutty just yet. |
| 07:04.18 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * 10bzflag/ (include/TimeKeeper.h src/common/TimeKeeper.cxx): |
| 07:04.18 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: accept and apply Flash's TimeKeeper::short_timestamp() patch (sf patch 1629098) |
| 07:04.18 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: that adds functionality similar to timestamp, but in a shortened HH:mm format |
| 07:04.18 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: that is potentially more useful for certain logging purposes. thx |
| 07:09.19 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * 10bzflag/src/bzflag/ShotPath.cxx: remove the mostly-no-longer-relevant comment.. giant switch was switched to something else. should still remember it's only a game, but lets take that out too since it'd be out of place. |
| 07:40.43 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * 10bzflag/src/bzflag/ServerCommandKey.cxx: |
| 07:40.43 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: accept and apply Flash's keyPress() refactoring (sf patch 1624809), taken with a |
| 07:40.43 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: little bit of faith on this one that due testing was performed on his end. the |
| 07:40.43 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: patch modifications seem reasonable, nicely encapsulates the quoting/unquoting |
| 07:40.43 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: of callsigns, and scrubs out a lot of the messy case logic plaque growth that |
| 07:40.44 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: had built up. |
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| 07:43.59 | bz55 | hi |
| 07:44.03 | bz55 | is the forum admin here? |
| 07:44.16 | bz55 | for some reason my ip is banned... |
| 07:44.19 | bz55 | so i cannot register |
| 07:44.48 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * 10bzflag/src/bzflag/ServerCommandKey.cxx: doxygenify the function comments, M-q |
| 07:44.50 | brlcad | bz55: there are several forum admins that listen in here |
| 07:45.11 | brlcad | there could be lots of reasons why it's banned, if that is even really the problem |
| 07:47.26 | brlcad | would help if you provided more information, like the name you're trying to register, and your IP |
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| 07:48.25 | bz55 | hmm... it says to contact an admin so thats why i came here |
| 07:48.47 | bz55 | You have been banned from this forum. Please contact the webmaster or board administrator for more information. |
| 07:57.31 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * 10bzflag/src/bzflag/playing.cxx: fugly long line wrapping |
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| 07:58.10 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * 10bzflag/src/bzflag/ServerCommandKey.cxx: comment cleanup, only one FIXME per fixme section so that they can be counted. |
| 07:58.52 | Flash | brlcad has been busy... |
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| 07:59.15 | Flash | hi [NP]Tangent |
| 08:00.42 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * 10bzflag/src/bzflag/ServerCommandKey.cxx: one-liner it with TextUtils::format() |
| 08:02.23 | [NP]Tangent | hi Flash |
| 08:02.26 | [NP]Tangent | how ar4e you? |
| 08:02.31 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * 10bzflag/src/bzflag/ServerCommandKey.cxx: oop, missing .c_str() |
| 08:07.15 | Flash | I'm fine |
| 08:24.39 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * 10web/cgi-bin/moin_config.py: fix the w3c markup validation errors, except for the table image background (and associated height) one that someone(tm) should convert to a layer. also fixes the footer span so that it's not all funkly |
| 08:26.35 | Flash | where is python used in the game? |
| 08:27.00 | Flash | oh... that's not the game .... |
| 08:27.04 | brlcad | there's a python plugin module |
| 08:27.52 | brlcad | and a couple devs wrote a nifty game client in python that actually worked and had some nice special effects |
| 08:28.04 | brlcad | but yeah, not really used in the actual game client |
| 08:38.30 | brlcad | DTRemenak: would PP benefit from access? |
| 08:38.45 | brlcad | (images) |
| 08:39.44 | brlcad | (and just looking for a voucher before adding) |
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| 08:57.05 | Flash | what does normalized score sorting do? |
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| 10:14.26 | Flash | I just fired up a 2.1 client and tried to connect to swordofkahless |
| 10:14.38 | Flash | it says "Incompatible server version BZFS0044" |
| 10:14.52 | Flash | did the protocol recently change? |
| 10:16.01 | brlcad | grep BZ_PROTO_VERSION src/date/buildDate.cxx | grep define |
| 10:16.02 | brlcad | #define BZ_PROTO_VERSION "0045" |
| 10:16.07 | brlcad | apparently so |
| 10:16.59 | brlcad | date: 2006/12/16 23:58:29; author: jeffm2501; state: Exp; lines: +1 -1 |
| 10:16.59 | brlcad | bit of a big one. |
| 10:16.59 | brlcad | use the synced clock to timestamp player updates. |
| 10:16.59 | brlcad | use the timestamp on playerupdates to lag comp the positions |
| 10:17.01 | brlcad | of tanks for DR. |
| 10:18.58 | Flash | the bad word filter is a bit aggressive |
| 10:19.19 | Flash | it turned "hello" into "^$*&o" |
| 10:35.51 | brlcad | with the default filter? |
| 10:37.00 | brlcad | there is/was a bug where it would incorrectly filter partial matches if they were the first word but not the second/third word |
| 10:37.15 | brlcad | but "hell" sounds like something a server op has added |
| 10:37.49 | brlcad | as that's not profanity or otherwise within the scope of the default provided |
| 10:38.10 | biggeruniverse | but the match should be \bhell\b |
| 10:38.33 | biggeruniverse | not \bhell.*?\b |
| 10:39.15 | brlcad | biggeruniverse: it is |
| 10:39.24 | brlcad | save for that bug I mentioned on the first word |
| 10:40.00 | brlcad | though \b is incredibly oversimplifying what it actually does |
| 10:40.29 | brlcad | if you want just \bword\b, then you should probably be using the -simpleFilter |
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| 10:41.25 | brlcad | ciao tupone |
| 10:41.39 | Tupone | hola brlcad |
| 10:41.47 | brlcad | que tal? |
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| 11:13.07 | Manu | aún despierto brlcad :) |
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| 15:39.25 | brlcad | Manu: howdy |
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| 17:02.20 | Manu | hola brlcad :) |
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| 18:11.51 | trillian_ | hi all, i have sound-problems with bzflag 2.0.8 and xubuntu 6.06 . anyone? |
| 18:13.54 | blast007 | trillian_: what kind of problems exactly? |
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| 18:14.59 | trillian_ | hi! the wav-files are played in a shortened way, but they are ok, if i play them with aplay |
| 18:15.48 | trillian_ | i use alsa as my soundsystem... |
| 18:25.44 | blast007 | trillian_: you'll probably have to wait around a bit for someone that does more linux stuff :) |
| 18:25.56 | blast007 | (I do more with Windows) |
| 18:26.35 | ruskie | hmm I've had that ages ago... |
| 18:29.12 | biggeruniverse | it's the way the device was initialized |
| 18:29.44 | biggeruniverse | the sound file and the device have different frequencies, and there was no conversion made when the wav was loaded |
| 18:30.00 | biggeruniverse | I don't know why you are seeing it. |
| 18:30.29 | biggeruniverse | or rather, hearing it |
| 18:33.16 | trillian_ | found something by google, reporting probs with the alsa-subsystem |
| 18:34.19 | trillian_ | biggeruniverse: but when i play the sounds with alsaplay (part of alsasound-system), it sounds ok, |
| 18:38.21 | biggeruniverse | yeah, but bzflag handles it's own device initialization |
| 18:40.59 | blast007 | biggeruniverse: actually, SDL probably handles that part |
| 18:41.50 | trillian_ | so? what should i do, compile bzflag on my own or is there a better package? |
| 18:42.30 | blast007 | you could try compiling your own |
| 18:42.56 | blast007 | not sure of the *bunutu's have dev tools by default |
| 18:43.26 | blast007 | ~bz20cvs |
| 18:43.27 | ibot | cvs -d :pserver:anonymous@cvs.bzflag.org:/cvsroot/bzflag co -P -r v2_0branch bzflag |
| 18:43.51 | blast007 | (that would be for the latest of the 2.0.x branch) |
| 18:45.44 | trillian_ | shure, but this is the hard way, after compiling bz on another (suse) linux, i had too much jitter to play on any server (with that compiled version only) |
| 18:53.49 | biggeruniverse | no, you give SDL the freq |
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| 18:54.14 | biggeruniverse | missilewar would be so good, if it were so poorly admined |
| 18:54.38 | spldart | agreed |
| 18:54.57 | biggeruniverse | plus voting is horked, so it doesn't work at all |
| 18:55.41 | spldart | didn't know that :( |
| 18:56.02 | biggeruniverse | I got banned for geno tk |
| 18:56.17 | biggeruniverse | guess I should prefix any ranting with that |
| 18:56.26 | trillian_ | biggeruniverse, how do i tell sdl the freq? |
| 18:56.28 | biggeruniverse | (and yes, I did it intentionally) |
| 18:56.37 | biggeruniverse | trillian_: you have to change the code |
| 18:56.43 | trillian_ | biggeruniverse, shame for tk'ing ;-) |
| 18:57.13 | spldart | Ah.. I was aggreeing on the poor admining cuz often there isn't someone active to kick/ban language, cheats and multi TK's |
| 18:57.20 | biggeruniverse | trillian_: If will go too far ends to prove a point |
| 18:57.40 | biggeruniverse | *if will->I will |
| 18:58.01 | spldart | what was the 'point'? |
| 18:58.15 | biggeruniverse | yes, and we had a rampant tker whom no one would vote against and no admin would ban, so I said "how would you like it if..." |
| 18:58.19 | trillian_ | biggeruniverse, hmm think i play bz on my other linux-flavor, thx anyway |
| 18:58.36 | biggeruniverse | trillian_: probably better ;) |
| 18:58.54 | biggeruniverse | and things degraded from there |
| 18:59.50 | biggeruniverse | I abhor unfairness |
| 19:00.00 | spldart | me2 |
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| 19:00.12 | spldart | therfore I abhor teh world |
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| 19:19.05 | *** topic/#bzflag is http://BZFlag.org || http://cia.navi.cx/stats/project/BZFlag || http://BZFlag.org/wiki/GettingHelp || paste to http://bzflag.pastebin.ca || CVS HEAD is 2.1 and for all new commits || http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/9453 |
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| 19:53.53 | chrislol | this is gay |
| 19:54.14 | a_meteorite | Huh? |
| 19:54.39 | a_meteorite | ... |
| 19:58.53 | blast007 | :/ |
| 19:59.24 | spldart | :\ |
| 19:59.38 | a_meteorite | *was a |
| 20:00.29 | blast007 | it was |
| 20:00.34 | a_meteorite | hehe... |
| 20:00.45 | a_meteorite | Attack of the CGI:IRC clones! |
| 20:00.49 | blast007 | hex encoded IP at the start of his hostmask |
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| 20:45.05 | bz32 | hello |
| 20:45.09 | blast007 | hi |
| 20:45.25 | bz32 | h |
| 20:45.32 | bz32 | iu,uioj.pokp |
| 20:45.45 | a_meteorite | ... |
| 20:45.54 | spldart | geez |
| 20:45.54 | bz32 | ops, sry |
| 20:47.32 | biggeruniverse | yeah |
| 21:07.05 | blast007 | lol... |
| 21:07.15 | biggeruniverse | haha |
| 21:07.21 | a_meteorite | what? |
| 21:07.26 | biggeruniverse | why are we laughing |
| 21:07.33 | blast007 | bz32 |
| 21:07.35 | blast007 | just read it |
| 21:07.52 | blast007 | crazy CGI:IRC'ers |
| 21:07.59 | a_meteorite | that was a long time ago :) |
| 21:08.01 | CBG | Something about pokemon ? |
| 21:08.23 | blast007 | a_meteorite: well, I'm at work, and don't stick around IRC the whole time ;) |
| 21:08.31 | a_meteorite | heh |
| 21:09.01 | CBG | excuses excuses. |
| 21:09.10 | blast007 | CBG: jobless jobless |
| 21:09.27 | CBG | student student. |
| 21:09.41 | blast007 | I'm an instructor, so watch out |
| 21:10.06 | biggeruniverse | CBG! |
| 21:10.26 | biggeruniverse | I'm a code poet ;) |
| 21:10.39 | CBG | :o |
| 21:10.42 | biggeruniverse | But no one likes my poems. :( |
| 21:11.37 | CBG | :( |
| 21:12.14 | Flash | code poet? |
| 21:12.37 | biggeruniverse | yes? |
| 21:12.52 | Flash | what does that mean |
| 21:14.03 | biggeruniverse | I write elegant code |
| 21:14.08 | biggeruniverse | (ostensibly) |
| 21:14.20 | Flash | ahh. humility. I like it |
| 21:14.44 | Flash | we should be friends ;-) |
| 21:14.45 | biggeruniverse | I have more humility in my little finger... (etc, etc) |
| 21:14.51 | biggeruniverse | Sounds good to me |
| 21:14.51 | a_meteorite | ... does that make me a code junkie? |
| 21:15.02 | Flash | cause you write junk code? |
| 21:15.18 | biggeruniverse | maybe he's only a code voyeur |
| 21:15.22 | a_meteorite | yeah, usually my patches are junk cause I don't understand the code I'm looking at |
| 21:15.33 | a_meteorite | it's a big blur :) |
| 21:15.45 | Flash | my first attempt at a patch failed because I did too much code improvement ;-) |
| 21:15.50 | a_meteorite | lol |
| 21:15.55 | a_meteorite | I haven't submitted any patches |
| 21:16.02 | a_meteorite | but I've made probably a dozen personal ones |
| 21:16.26 | Flash | I have an obsessive/compulsive need to make code better |
| 21:16.31 | a_meteorite | my 2.0.6 source is way modded to the point it won't compile anymore |
| 21:16.37 | biggeruniverse | we should be friends |
| 21:16.46 | Flash | that's one mod too many |
| 21:16.52 | biggeruniverse | I have an obsessive/compulsive need to make code that needs to be better |
| 21:16.52 | a_meteorite | I need to pull the patches out and apply to 2.0 branch |
| 21:17.28 | biggeruniverse | I'm working on a super-huge mondo patch, we'll see how that goes |
| 21:17.33 | a_meteorite | phpbb's code makes my head hurt... |
| 21:18.02 | blast007 | phpBB's code makes the phpBB devs' heads hurt |
| 21:18.08 | a_meteorite | hahah |
| 21:18.28 | a_meteorite | I'm afraid to patch phpbb :) |
| 21:18.34 | a_meteorite | *patch* *BOOM!* |
| 21:18.39 | Flash | where is the phpbb source? |
| 21:18.48 | a_meteorite | you download it at phpbb.com ;) |
| 21:19.10 | a_meteorite | I'm seeing about patching phpbb 3 beta |
| 21:19.14 | blast007 | a_meteorite: well, it's sorta fun to mod phpBB |
| 21:19.21 | a_meteorite | blast007: and watch it blow up? |
| 21:19.28 | blast007 | exactly |
| 21:19.34 | a_meteorite | yay |
| 21:19.40 | blast007 | actually, I have yet to mess a mod up |
| 21:19.53 | a_meteorite | :\ |
| 21:20.00 | blast007 | besides when I forgot to apply the SQL mod to my.bzflag.org ;) |
| 21:20.05 | a_meteorite | I haven't modded it ... YET ... but it's scaring me |
| 21:20.40 | a_meteorite | probably cause I don't have a very through sql syntax understanding |
| 21:20.52 | blast007 | yeah, they have SQL all over the place |
| 21:21.19 | spldart | Let me patch that sentence a_meteorite.. s/thorough/through |
| 21:21.33 | a_meteorite | :x |
| 21:22.18 | Flash | spldart: let me patch your patch: s/through/thorough/ |
| 21:22.23 | spldart | My language is different than yours... CRASH |
| 21:22.38 | spldart | ;-) |
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| 21:23.33 | Kcat | hi |
| 21:23.39 | Kcat | who's there |
| 21:23.46 | a_meteorite | everyone |
| 21:23.48 | spldart | Noone |
| 21:24.06 | Kcat | who are you |
| 21:24.17 | a_meteorite | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:24.22 | spldart | LOL |
| 21:24.24 | a_meteorite | Kcat: a_meteorite |
| 21:24.33 | a_meteorite | we're all bzflag players or developers |
| 21:24.47 | a_meteorite | ... or nerds |
| 21:25.01 | Kcat | how do you send private messages? |
| 21:25.03 | a_meteorite | a_asteroid: s/a_asteroid/an_asteroid/ |
| 21:25.14 | a_asteroid | nothing here but us celestial objects |
| 21:25.40 | Flash | Kcat: /msg to_whom message follows |
| 21:26.02 | a_meteorite | if the name has a space use " around their name |
| 21:26.05 | a_meteorite | >_> |
| 21:28.27 | a_meteorite | food :) |
| 21:28.57 | spldart | food sounds good |
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| 22:56.08 | bz28 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 23:01.01 | Drewsky | im on mac os x and the options menu is mangled |
| 23:01.04 | Drewsky | so i cant view it |
| 23:01.09 | Drewsky | what do i do |
| 23:01.15 | a_meteorite | hardware? |
| 23:01.21 | Drewsky | g3 |
| 23:01.29 | a_meteorite | what's your video card? |
| 23:01.43 | a_meteorite | and what mac os x are you running? (10.2? 10.3? 10.4?) |
| 23:01.56 | Drewsky | 10.4 |
| 23:02.01 | a_meteorite | yeah |
| 23:02.17 | a_meteorite | Drewsky: you familiar with the terminal? |
| 23:02.23 | Drewsky | ya |
| 23:02.31 | Drewsky | enough |
| 23:02.45 | a_meteorite | ok, I'm going to give a guess how you can see everything... open a terminal |
| 23:02.50 | Drewsky | ok |
| 23:03.04 | Drewsky | donw |
| 23:03.07 | Drewsky | done* |
| 23:03.23 | a_meteorite | ok, type "cd "... |
| 23:03.32 | a_meteorite | now drag BZFlag from your applications folder to the terminal |
| 23:03.41 | a_meteorite | now add this to the end: |
| 23:03.52 | a_meteorite | "Contents/MacOS" |
| 23:04.26 | a_meteorite | so you should be in bzflag.app/Contents/MacOS |
| 23:04.41 | a_meteorite | now give this a whirl... ./BZFlag -window |
| 23:04.46 | Drewsky | hold up |
| 23:04.53 | a_meteorite | heh ok |
| 23:05.20 | Drewsky | no such file ... |
| 23:05.24 | a_meteorite | I can make it easier :) |
| 23:05.26 | a_meteorite | alright |
| 23:05.40 | Drewsky | can i just right click open |
| 23:05.41 | a_meteorite | erase whatever you have currently typed out in the terminal |
| 23:05.53 | a_meteorite | yeah, right click bzflag, show package contents |
| 23:06.01 | Drewsky | ya |
| 23:06.11 | a_meteorite | then go to Contents->MacOS |
| 23:06.16 | a_meteorite | then drag "BZFlag" to the terminal |
| 23:06.26 | a_meteorite | and add " -window" to the end before hitting enter |
| 23:06.53 | a_meteorite | maybe that will resolve the display issue, hopefully |
| 23:07.01 | a_meteorite | (then you can change settings from there) |
| 23:07.14 | Drewsky | ok |
| 23:07.15 | Drewsky | here goes |
| 23:08.23 | Drewsky | works |
| 23:08.27 | Drewsky | thanks dude |
| 23:08.32 | a_meteorite | no problem |
| 23:08.36 | Drewsky | where you learn terminal |
| 23:08.41 | Drewsky | i want to learn more |
| 23:08.44 | a_meteorite | by experimenting :) |
| 23:08.50 | Drewsky | cuz im pretty mac savvy |
| 23:08.56 | Drewsky | but only 15 |
| 23:09.00 | blast007 | "whoops, there goes my partition" |
| 23:09.01 | a_meteorite | everything I've learned on computers has been by just trying stuff out |
| 23:09.01 | CBG | It's basically unix. Search google. |
| 23:09.12 | Drewsky | cool beans |
| 23:09.15 | a_meteorite | yeah, search for "linux commands" |
| 23:09.23 | a_meteorite | and you'll get a general idea how to navigate around |
| 23:09.45 | Flash | "man" is your friend |
| 23:09.55 | a_meteorite | heh |
| 23:10.34 | a_meteorite | might want to see if playing around with resolutions fixes the display problem |
| 23:10.34 | Flash | from a terminal, type "man -k sometopic" |
| 23:10.34 | a_meteorite | I don't know if rage 128's are supported, but maybe you can get it worked out :) |
| 23:10.35 | Flash | Drewsky: what kind of mangled do you see? |
| 23:10.56 | Flash | I have a 17" G4 powerbook (10.3.9) and I have no problems |
| 23:11.19 | blast007 | Flash: he probably doesn't have enough video ram to render it right when full screen |
| 23:13.23 | a_meteorite | blast007: wouldn't lowering the resolution help that (or bit depth?)? |
| 23:13.49 | Drewsky | like the words are just horizontal lines |
| 23:13.59 | Drewsky | i fixed it with full screen too |
| 23:14.08 | Drewsky | just messed wit it a bit |
| 23:14.10 | Drewsky | later |
| 23:14.44 | a_meteorite | yay, I'm useful for something :P |
| 23:26.41 | blast007 | a_meteorite: yeah |
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| 23:34.04 | biggeruniverse | my mom says I'm cool |
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