irclog2html for #bzflag on 20070109

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`02:30.44`	`paoloTheCool`	`bzfquery nightbreak.homelinux.com:4444`
`02:31.03`	`paoloTheCool`	`whoops`
`02:31.20`	`paoloTheCool`	`~bzfquery nightbreak.homelinux.com:4444`
`02:34.24`	`paoloTheCool`	`~bzfquery nightbreak.homelinux.com:4444`
`02:35.19`	`paoloTheCool`	`~bzfquery nightbreak.homelinux.com:4444`
`02:35.42`	`paoloTheCool`	`~bzfquery nightbreak.homelinux.com:4444`
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`02:37.14`	`paoloTheCool`	`~bzfquery nightbreak.homelinux.com:4444`
`02:38.18`	`blast007`	`paoloTheCool: the command also works as /msg ibot bzfquery nightbreak.homelinux.com:4444`
`02:39.08`	`spldart`	`not cool`
`02:39.46`	`blast007`	`;)`
`02:39.52`	`paoloTheCool`	`it aint working`
`02:40.01`	`paoloTheCool`	`im trying to run a server`
`02:40.08`	`paoloTheCool`	`but its not quite working`
`02:40.09`	`paoloTheCool`	`:(`
`02:40.33`	`paoloTheCool`	`does anyone know anythin about runnign servers?`
`02:40.51`	`blast007`	`unfortunately, we probably do`
`02:41.23`	`paoloTheCool`	`so i have tried everything, opened the router port, unfirewalled (if tahts a word) the port im using`
`02:41.29`	`paoloTheCool`	`but it still wont work`
`02:41.31`	`blast007`	`haha...`
`02:41.38`	`blast007`	`~nslookup nightbreak.homelinux.com`
`02:41.50`	`blast007`	`that's the local IP address`
`02:41.58`	`blast007`	`not the outside address`
`02:42.12`	`paoloTheCool`	`um supposed to use public address?`
`02:42.13`	`blast007`	`I'm assuming you have a router then?`
`02:42.17`	`paoloTheCool`	`yes`
`02:42.18`	`blast007`	`oh, just read that part`
`02:42.47`	`blast007`	`~bzfquery 66.32.84.41:4444`
`02:42.50`	`paoloTheCool`	`so i should use the IP address that dyndys.com sugggests when i create a host?`
`02:43.06`	`paoloTheCool`	`whopps...i mean dyndns.com`
`02:43.08`	`blast007`	`yeah, your current IP is 66.32.84.41 as far as I can tell`
`02:43.28`	`paoloTheCool`	`i didn;t know what IP address to use`
`02:43.37`	`paoloTheCool`	`thats the one they told me was my public address`
`02:43.47`	`blast007`	`yup`
`02:43.58`	`blast007`	`and then just make sure it's forwarded right`
`02:44.04`	`blast007`	`TCP and UDP`
`02:44.15`	`paoloTheCool`	`ok trying again`
`02:44.46`	`paoloTheCool`	`~bzfquery nightbreak.homelinux.com:4444`
`02:44.48`	`paoloTheCool`	`oops`
`02:44.52`	`paoloTheCool`	`ahhh`
`02:44.59`	`paoloTheCool`	`why does it do that?`
`02:45.03`	`paoloTheCool`	`im just trying to paste`
`02:45.06`	`paoloTheCool`	`but its entering too`
`02:45.27`	`paoloTheCool`	`~bzfquery nightbreak01.homelinux.com:4444`
`02:45.27`	`blast007`	`you copied the line break at the end too`
`02:45.36`	`blast007`	`just give it a second`
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`02:45.37`	`paoloTheCool`	`i c`
`02:45.44`	`blast007`	`you already have 4 reqests in now`
`02:45.51`	`blast007`	`the bot is seeing the old IP yet`
`02:46.04`	`paoloTheCool`	`darn`
`02:46.11`	`paoloTheCool`	`(why me)`
`02:46.49`	`paoloTheCool`	`so....do you have an idea of wht imn doing wrong?`
`02:46.52`	`paoloTheCool`	`:(`
`02:47.00`	`blast007`	`did you update the hostname's IP yet?`
`02:47.04`	`paoloTheCool`	`yep`
`02:47.39`	`blast007`	`must not have propigated yet`
`02:47.47`	`paoloTheCool`	`how long does it take?`
`02:47.54`	`blast007`	`depends`
`02:48.52`	`paoloTheCool`	`do comps usually use TCP or UDP?`
`02:48.53`	`paoloTheCool`	`or both?`
`02:48.57`	`blast007`	`worse case, ask it directly with your IP`
`02:49.04`	`blast007`	`depends on the application`
`02:49.16`	`blast007`	`a computer uses both, but not all application use both`
`02:49.20`	`paoloTheCool`	`bzFlag?`
`02:49.25`	`blast007`	`bzflag uses both`
`02:49.36`	`paoloTheCool`	`so i should open both on router?`
`02:49.50`	`blast007`	`yes`
`02:51.12`	`spldart`	`hehe... forwarded and open... I believe I caught that`
`02:51.25`	`paoloTheCool`	`forward?`
`02:51.45`	`paoloTheCool`	`ok....i opened both`
`02:51.49`	`paoloTheCool`	`should i try again`
`02:51.49`	`paoloTheCool`	`?`
`02:51.55`	`paoloTheCool`	`or is there something i need to do with my firewall`
`02:51.55`	`blast007`	`not with the hostname`
`02:52.01`	`paoloTheCool`	`with the publicIP?`
`02:52.07`	`spldart`	`Blast said to open and Forward tcp and udp on said port`
`02:52.31`	`blast007`	`paoloTheCool: server is running right now, on port 4444?`
`02:52.37`	`paoloTheCool`	`~bzfquery 66.32.84.41:4444`
`02:52.39`	`paoloTheCool`	`yes`
`02:53.32`	`blast007`	`forwarded to the computer running the server?`
`02:53.49`	`paoloTheCool`	`?`
`02:53.52`	`blast007`	`cuz it's showing that the port is filtered, which means it's either a firewall, or the server is listening on that port`
`02:54.02`	`blast007`	`isn't listening*`
`02:54.48`	`blast007`	`you need to tell the router to send traffic on port 4444 to your computer that is running bzfs`
`02:55.03`	`paoloTheCool`	`this computer is runnign server right now`
`02:55.09`	`blast007`	`right`
`02:55.18`	`blast007`	`make sure you're telling that to the router`
`02:55.23`	`paoloTheCool`	`like how?`
`02:56.04`	`paoloTheCool`	`on my internet connection under firewall under advanced settings`
`02:56.17`	`paoloTheCool`	`where u can add services`
`02:56.22`	`paoloTheCool`	`do i neeed to do that?`
`02:57.39`	`spldart`	`do you have a router between your cable/dsl/whateva and your pc? You have to configure that to forward specific port traffic to specific machine`
`02:58.04`	`paoloTheCool`	`internet goes to modem then goes to router then goes to PC`
`02:58.14`	`paoloTheCool`	`if that answers ur Q`
`02:58.37`	`spldart`	`Most have to configure the router to get their bzflag server to work`
`02:58.53`	`paoloTheCool`	`u mean like by accessing it ?`
`02:59.02`	`paoloTheCool`	`192.168.1.1?`
`02:59.41`	`paoloTheCool`	`i read somewhere to go there in internet explorer and i accessed router and then changed necessary settings`
`02:59.52`	`spldart`	`yeah.. access it and forward 4444`
`02:59.53`	`paoloTheCool`	`according the site i was at`
`03:00.17`	`paoloTheCool`	`what do u mean "forward"?`
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`03:00.48`	`paoloTheCool2`	`stupid computer`
`03:01.24`	`paoloTheCool2`	`so as i was saying`
`03:01.25`	`paoloTheCool2`	`what do u mean "forward"?`
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`03:01.53`	`paoloTheCool2`	`~bzfquery nightbreak.homelinux.com:4444`
`03:02.32`	`paoloTheCool2`	`~bzfquery nightbreak01.homelinux.com/4444`
`03:02.35`	`paoloTheCool2`	`crud`
`03:02.57`	`paoloTheCool2`	`~bzfquery nightbreak01.homelinux.com:4444`
`03:03.35`	`spldart`	`In my router you can set up servers and what port public to what port private`
`03:04.04`	`spldart`	`Or perhaps you can set a machine in a dmz and have it do all serve/downloading and the rest of the machines are behind firewall`
`03:05.43`	`spldart`	`bzzzzt`
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`03:06.17`	`paoloTheCool2`	`why me`
`03:06.22`	`paoloTheCool2`	`ok now that my interet is back on`
`03:06.24`	`paoloTheCool2`	`(SIGH)`
`03:07.18`	`paoloTheCool2`	`oh wow`
`03:07.19`	`paoloTheCool2`	`ok`
`03:07.25`	`paoloTheCool2`	`so when i go to my router steup`
`03:07.35`	`paoloTheCool2`	`and there is a spot for "Start" and "End" ports`
`03:07.40`	`paoloTheCool2`	`is taht a range?`
`03:07.45`	`paoloTheCool2`	`or what do i put in there`
`03:09.43`	`short_circuit`	`There should be a place to place an 'application' or 'server' and you want 4444 both tcp and udp to go from WAN to your specific machines LAN ip`
`03:09.59`	`paoloTheCool2`	`yah`
`03:10.09`	`paoloTheCool2`	`theres a spot for Start and End port`
`03:10.15`	`paoloTheCool2`	`do i put 4444 in both?`
`03:10.35`	`short_circuit`	`yeah... methinks... I dunno your router but you only need 4444 so try that`
`03:10.42`	`paoloTheCool2`	`okdoky`
`03:11.02`	`short_circuit`	`WAN>192.168.1.149 tcp udp and 192.168.1.149>WAN tcp udp`
`03:11.14`	`paoloTheCool2`	`say again?`
`03:11.22`	`paoloTheCool2`	`is taht supposed to be english?`
`03:11.27`	`paoloTheCool2`	`:)`
`03:11.47`	`short_circuit`	`meh... my router calls the WWW the WAN and your machine is on the LAN`
`03:11.58`	`paoloTheCool2`	`~bzfquery nightbreak01.homelinux.com:4444`
`03:12.02`	`paoloTheCool2`	`what does that mean`
`03:12.08`	`paoloTheCool2`	`i mean`
`03:12.29`	`short_circuit`	`heh.. did you try 4444 tcp and udp to your local machine ?`
`03:12.33`	`paoloTheCool2`	`yah`
`03:12.40`	`paoloTheCool2`	`im just queryed it`
`03:12.44`	`paoloTheCool2`	`if thats a word`
`03:13.03`	`short_circuit`	`if you have that applied try addressing your server`
`03:13.17`	`paoloTheCool2`	`fomr where?`
`03:13.35`	`paoloTheCool2`	`bzFlag client?`
`03:13.46`	`paoloTheCool2`	`internet explorer?`
`03:13.49`	`paoloTheCool2`	`right here?`
`03:13.54`	`paoloTheCool2`	`:-/`
`03:14.22`	`short_circuit`	`nm... your not online`
`03:14.27`	`paoloTheCool2`	`the ibot still hasn't done it yet`
`03:14.29`	`paoloTheCool2`	`wht?`
`03:14.37`	`paoloTheCool2`	`im not online?`
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`03:14.55`	`paoloTheCool2`	`how am i not online?`
`03:14.58`	`short_circuit`	`If you do get online with your server and address it with IE you will get an odd response but that will tell you if your online`
`03:15.01`	`short_circuit`	`I'm not seeing yah`
`03:15.06`	`paoloTheCool2`	`oh`
`03:15.08`	`paoloTheCool2`	`i c`
`03:15.12`	`paoloTheCool2`	`that tsitnks like the dickens`
`03:15.22`	`paoloTheCool2`	`is there something i need to do with my firewall?`
`03:15.28`	`paoloTheCool2`	`i already opened the porst`
`03:15.31`	`paoloTheCool2`	`ports`
`03:15.39`	`short_circuit`	`If you get ports forwareded correctly you could http://66.32.84.41:4444/ in an IE window and see a response with a 0026 in it`
`03:15.57`	`paoloTheCool2`	`do u run a server?`
`03:15.58`	`short_circuit`	`something aint set right....`
`03:16.00`	`paoloTheCool2`	`or haveu ever?`
`03:16.06`	`short_circuit`	`I have two bzfs's on a machine yes`
`03:16.23`	`paoloTheCool2`	`so did u have to do somethign with firewall?`
`03:16.40`	`short_circuit`	`~bzfquery spldart.opencombat.net:5154`
`03:16.48`	`short_circuit`	`~bzfquery spldart.opencombat.net:5155`
`03:16.55`	`paoloTheCool2`	`In the firewall under "exceptions"`
`03:17.00`	`paoloTheCool2`	`i have the ports allowed`
`03:17.03`	`paoloTheCool2`	`is that good enough?`
`03:17.11`	`paoloTheCool2`	`or do i go to advanced settings`
`03:17.16`	`paoloTheCool2`	`and change the services`
`03:17.18`	`short_circuit`	`I couldn't tell you unfortunately... I seem to have a different router`
`03:17.29`	`paoloTheCool2`	`this is under firewall`
`03:17.30`	`paoloTheCool2`	`not router`
`03:17.35`	`short_circuit`	`but what you have to accomplish is the same`
`03:17.43`	`short_circuit`	`What OS?`
`03:17.47`	`paoloTheCool2`	`windowa`
`03:17.51`	`paoloTheCool2`	`windows`
`03:17.52`	`paoloTheCool2`	`XP`
`03:17.52`	`short_circuit`	`XP?`
`03:17.56`	`short_circuit`	`2K?`
`03:17.56`	`paoloTheCool2`	`yep`
`03:18.14`	`paoloTheCool2`	`XP`
`03:18.16`	`short_circuit`	`OK... turn off windows firewall real quick to see if that is the last problem`
`03:18.30`	`paoloTheCool2`	`ive tried that a billion times...sigh....but here it goes again`
`03:18.32`	`paoloTheCool2`	`:)`
`03:18.39`	`short_circuit`	`I host web, file and bzflag servers apps off linux myself`
`03:18.51`	`paoloTheCool2`	`nice`
`03:18.59`	`short_circuit`	`well... just leave windows firewalll off for now while you troubleshoot this problem`
`03:19.08`	`paoloTheCool2`	`well i turned it off`
`03:19.13`	`short_circuit`	`okies`
`03:19.27`	`paoloTheCool2`	`(u betta not be hacking into my comp right now ;)`
`03:19.35`	`short_circuit`	`LOL`
`03:19.37`	`short_circuit`	`Nopers`
`03:19.44`	`short_circuit`	`but you are still not online`
`03:19.49`	`short_circuit`	`your bzfs running right now?`
`03:19.53`	`paoloTheCool2`	`yep`
`03:20.16`	`short_circuit`	`and your certain your wan IP is 66.32.84.41`
`03:20.19`	`paoloTheCool2`	`r u sure i should use public IP?`
`03:20.26`	`paoloTheCool2`	`thats what dyndns tells me`
`03:20.36`	`short_circuit`	`blast was helping with dyndns`
`03:20.36`	`paoloTheCool2`	`i also have dyndns updater`
`03:20.47`	`paoloTheCool2`	`still not working`
`03:21.18`	`paoloTheCool2`	`~bzfquery nightbreak01.homelinux.com:4444`
`03:21.18`	`short_circuit`	`theoretically you should need dns at all. you could... I did at one time.. serve with nothing but the numeric ip`
`03:21.39`	`paoloTheCool2`	`do u think osmething is wrong with my comp file?`
`03:21.55`	`paoloTheCool2`	`-publicaddr nightbreak01.homelinux.com:4444`
`03:22.01`	`paoloTheCool2`	`thats my publicaddr line`
`03:22.07`	`short_circuit`	`Hrm....I'm not sure if its the same for windows but.... what does http:127.0.0.1:4444 get you in IE?`
`03:22.32`	`paoloTheCool2`	`nothing`
`03:22.39`	`paoloTheCool2`	`well`
`03:22.40`	`short_circuit`	`eh?`
`03:22.42`	`paoloTheCool2`	`the error page`
`03:23.03`	`short_circuit`	`how about //127.0.0.1:4444 ?`
`03:23.08`	`short_circuit`	`no http`
`03:23.35`	`short_circuit`	`Kaput`
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`03:23.43`	`paoloTheCool2`	`nope`
`03:23.44`	`paoloTheCool2`	`nothing`
`03:23.47`	`short_circuit`	`ok`
`03:23.49`	`short_circuit`	`now`
`03:24.11`	`short_circuit`	`If memory serves.. //127..... I just gave you should have seen the local bzfs on the same machine`
`03:24.23`	`short_circuit`	`so something isn't right in bzfs.... but don't quote me on that hehehe`
`03:24.46`	`paoloTheCool2`	`so`
`03:24.48`	`paoloTheCool2`	`somethings wrong?`
`03:24.55`	`paoloTheCool2`	`with bzfs?`
`03:24.57`	`paoloTheCool2`	`conf file?`
`03:25.05`	`paoloTheCool2`	`i can run it fine localHost`
`03:25.09`	`short_circuit`	`bzfs on windows machien... IE on windows machine... 127.0.0.1 should see local bzfs`
`03:25.13`	`short_circuit`	`oh`
`03:25.24`	`short_circuit`	`your client does see your local server?`
`03:25.25`	`paoloTheCool2`	`really?`
`03:25.37`	`paoloTheCool2`	`well...not on the public list`
`03:25.47`	`paoloTheCool2`	`but i can go localHost, 4444`
`03:26.05`	`short_circuit`	`ok`
`03:26.15`	`short_circuit`	`You have -public set ?`
`03:26.42`	`paoloTheCool2`	`yep`
`03:26.49`	`paoloTheCool2`	`-public "NightBreak's Server - Come Have Fun!!!"`
`03:27.00`	`paoloTheCool2`	`cheesy line of the century, yah i know, but thats to bad`
`03:27.03`	`short_circuit`	`and -publicaddr ?`
`03:27.04`	`paoloTheCool2`	`cuz i cant even get it up there`
`03:27.05`	`paoloTheCool2`	`;)`
`03:27.13`	`paoloTheCool2`	`yes`
`03:27.19`	`short_circuit`	`heh...`
`03:27.40`	`short_circuit`	`and your IP is 66.32.84.41?`
`03:28.11`	`paoloTheCool2`	`pretty sure`
`03:28.34`	`short_circuit`	`there are places to make sure.. google what's my ip can be a help to confirm it`
`03:28.55`	`short_circuit`	`if it is indeed your wan ip then this HAS to be a router issue to sort out`
`03:29.10`	`short_circuit`	`and I don't know your router. it sounds different than mine...`
`03:29.23`	`paoloTheCool2`	`yep`
`03:29.25`	`paoloTheCool2`	`same thing`
`03:29.32`	`paoloTheCool2`	`66.32.84.41`
`03:29.47`	`short_circuit`	`yah may have to read up on your router config then`
`03:30.17`	`paoloTheCool2`	`grrrrrrrr`
`03:30.19`	`paoloTheCool2`	`grrrrr`
`03:30.21`	`paoloTheCool2`	`:`
`03:30.38`	`short_circuit`	`if your router has a dmz setting you might try that for a second and see if you all of a sudden appear online`
`03:30.38`	`paoloTheCool2`	`this makes me sick :)`
`03:30.45`	`paoloTheCool2`	`it does`
`03:30.54`	`paoloTheCool2`	`what am i supposed to do wit hti?`
`03:31.23`	`paoloTheCool2`	`do i click "enable"`
`03:31.27`	`paoloTheCool2`	`cuz right now its disabled`
`03:31.37`	`short_circuit`	`what you would do... and this is more a test than a fix, is place your local machine IP addy in the dmz zone and apply that...`
`03:32.02`	`paoloTheCool2`	`so i click enable?`
`03:32.06`	`short_circuit`	`generally that should allow that machine to connect easily with any app from bzfs to apache to bittorrent... but your naked`
`03:32.06`	`paoloTheCool2`	`and use the IP that it had`
`03:32.07`	`short_circuit`	`no firewall`
`03:32.08`	`paoloTheCool2`	`has`
`03:32.09`	`paoloTheCool2`	`*`
`03:32.14`	`short_circuit`	`local ip not wan`
`03:32.38`	`paoloTheCool2`	`so should i enable?`
`03:33.02`	`paoloTheCool2`	`buti dont have firewall on`
`03:33.02`	`short_circuit`	`Yeah... if you have your XP local ip in the dmz then apply`
`03:33.04`	`paoloTheCool2`	`so that wouldnt be the greatest`
`03:33.13`	`short_circuit`	`yes... this is a quick test... don't leave it`
`03:33.17`	`paoloTheCool2`	`lol`
`03:33.19`	`paoloTheCool2`	`yah that would be bad`
`03:33.22`	`short_circuit`	`or you will be vulnerable`
`03:33.27`	`paoloTheCool2`	`so i enable`
`03:33.36`	`paoloTheCool2`	`and then i go to my dyndns account`
`03:33.39`	`paoloTheCool2`	`or`
`03:33.40`	`short_circuit`	`try it.. then undo it`
`03:33.41`	`paoloTheCool2`	`waht do i do`
`03:33.50`	`short_circuit`	`apply`
`03:34.09`	`paoloTheCool2`	`and then...`
`03:34.22`	`paoloTheCool2`	`do i need to change my dyndns account IP?`
`03:34.33`	`paoloTheCool2`	`or do i still use my same public IP?`
`03:34.45`	`short_circuit`	`Ok... if you did right your win xp machine is in a dnz zone with no firewall and you should be online with either the 66.32.84.41 or the dyn`
`03:34.53`	`short_circuit`	`bzfs still running?`
`03:35.02`	`paoloTheCool2`	`ok`
`03:35.05`	`paoloTheCool2`	`about to try`
`03:35.06`	`paoloTheCool2`	`brb`
`03:35.57`	`paoloTheCool2`	`it says "illegal dmz address"`
`03:36.02`	`paoloTheCool2`	`when i try to enable`
`03:37.03`	`short_circuit`	`the address you put in the dmz should be identical to the /control panel/ network settings/ local area connection, support tab IP Address`
`03:37.29`	`short_circuit`	`a 192.168.x.x I assume`
`03:37.54`	`paoloTheCool2`	`u mean my local IP?`
`03:38.03`	`short_circuit`	`local ip goes in dmz`
`03:39.00`	`paoloTheCool2`	`~bzfquery nightbreak01.homelinux.com:4444`
`03:39.16`	`short_circuit`	`IE... lets' say my local bzflag server is 192.168.0.104..... I want to make it easy to server some games.... I put 192.168.0.104 in the dmz on the router... not port forwarding or firewall tinkering necessary.. that machine is open to the wan... and unsafe`
`03:40.01`	`paoloTheCool2`	`still wouldn't work`
`03:40.24`	`short_circuit`	`hrm... I can't think of anything that is missing... if you dmz the bzfs machine it should work. I've done that myself more than a couple times`
`03:41.05`	`short_circuit`	`well... take the win xp machine back out of the dmz and turn your xp firewall back on and you will have to see if someone who is more network savy than me comes along to help :(`
`03:41.17`	`paoloTheCool2`	`haha`
`03:41.19`	`paoloTheCool2`	`yah`
`03:41.25`	`paoloTheCool2`	`thanks a lot for the help`
`03:41.33`	`paoloTheCool2`	`i have no earthly idea whats wrong`
`03:41.43`	`short_circuit`	`I'm stumped`
`03:41.54`	`paoloTheCool2`	`itsprolly some stupid typo somewhere`
`03:41.58`	`short_circuit`	`it sounds like it should work....`
`03:42.35`	`paoloTheCool2`	`have u heard of the -publiclist`
`03:42.38`	`paoloTheCool2`	`command?`
`03:43.00`	`short_circuit`	`isn't that the way to set a list server other than default?`
`03:43.16`	`paoloTheCool2`	`i think so......`
`03:43.25`	`paoloTheCool2`	`i mean i doubt it would help`
`03:43.31`	`paoloTheCool2`	`but at this point...`
`03:43.37`	`paoloTheCool2`	`anything would help`
`03:43.38`	`paoloTheCool2`	`:)`
`03:44.43`	`short_circuit`	`Like some people set http://my.bzflag.org:81/db/ instead of http://my.bzflag.org/db/ to get around firewall issues sometimes`
`03:45.39`	`paoloTheCool2`	`so is linux just easier to run on?`
`03:45.43`	`paoloTheCool2`	`less issues?`
`03:46.26`	`short_circuit`	`linux is stable as a rock`
`03:46.37`	`short_circuit`	`it's worlds above any windows for server duty`
`03:46.42`	`paoloTheCool2`	`yah`
`03:46.43`	`paoloTheCool2`	`so i heard`
`03:46.59`	`paoloTheCool2`	`so do u run servers on a crappy old computer?`
`03:47.01`	`paoloTheCool2`	`or something?`
`03:47.13`	`short_circuit`	`its true.. I used to run windows for game, web and file serve duties.... linux trounced it for reliabiltiy`
`03:47.24`	`short_circuit`	`and I've never been hacked running linux servers`
`03:47.40`	`short_circuit`	`windows got beaten twice in 4 years`
`03:47.45`	`short_circuit`	`beaten = hacke`
`03:48.38`	`paoloTheCool2`	`because ive done it on more than one computer`
`03:48.40`	`short_circuit`	`Yeah.... old k6 2-500 makes a great server for what I need... You don't need murch at all`
`03:49.15`	`short_circuit`	`heck... get good @ linux and you don't even need a gui.... just core install... screens and apps`
`03:49.28`	`paoloTheCool2`	`yah`
`03:49.37`	`paoloTheCool2`	`i know this really computer savy guy`
`03:49.48`	`paoloTheCool2`	`he uses and old comp with linux for server`
`03:49.51`	`paoloTheCool2`	`when ever he needs one`
`03:50.00`	`short_circuit`	`it's the way to go`
`03:50.04`	`paoloTheCool2`	`prolly`
`03:50.06`	`paoloTheCool2`	`:)`
`03:50.17`	`paoloTheCool2`	`but its still possible to run with windows right?`
`03:50.22`	`paoloTheCool2`	`so it should be working right?`
`03:50.23`	`short_circuit`	`maybe you can bribe that dude with some beer to fix your router settings`
`03:50.24`	`paoloTheCool2`	`:(`
`03:50.29`	`paoloTheCool2`	`ha`
`03:50.34`	`short_circuit`	`right.. windows can do it`
`03:50.53`	`short_circuit`	`althought I rarely got more than 30 days straight before I had to reboot cuz it was getting to flacky`
`03:51.05`	`short_circuit`	`I've had linux run for months and months before I bother to reboot`
`03:52.21`	`*** join/#bzflag paoloTheCool2 (n=42205429@bz.bzflag.bz)`
`03:52.29`	`paoloTheCool2`	`right now im using wireless`
`03:52.32`	`paoloTheCool2`	`is that a problem?`
`03:52.43`	`short_circuit`	`no`
`03:52.57`	`paoloTheCool2`	`hmmmm`
`03:53.48`	`short_circuit`	`I'm heading off to sleep.... sorry I couldn't help. good luck`
`03:54.19`	`paoloTheCool2`	`haha...news flash......ohio state is getting killed`
`03:55.21`	`*** join/#bzflag paoloTheCool2 (n=42205429@bz.bzflag.bz)`
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`03:55.38`	`paoloTheCool2`	`is public IP only IP i can use with dyndns host?`
`03:55.46`	`paoloTheCool2`	`what if i have a static DNS IP?`
`03:59.26`	`*** join/#bzflag bz88 (n=42205429@bz.bzflag.bz)`
`03:59.31`	`bz88`	`this is paoloTheCOol`
`03:59.34`	`bz88`	`just for u to know`
`03:59.40`	`bz88`	`because my comp is being dumb again`
`03:59.50`	`bz88`	`so i shouldn't need a host, would I?`
`04:00.00`	`bz88`	`i cuold just connect directly to my IP right?`
`04:00.26`	`bz88`	`by putting -publicaddr 66.32.84.41:4444`
`04:00.28`	`bz88`	`right?`
`04:01.03`	`bz88`	`well..ttyl`
`04:01.06`	`bz88`	`thanks for all the help`
`04:03.13`	`brlcad`	`your welcome`
`04:05.05`	`spldart`	`Is it safe`
`04:06.15`	`blast007`	`woah....I missed a lot apparently :P`
`04:06.35`	`blast007`	`at least his hostmask updated now`
`04:06.42`	`blast007`	`hostname*`
`04:06.46`	`spldart`	`I was just trying to be helpful :(`
`04:06.48`	`spldart`	`heh`
`04:07.06`	`blast007`	`wonder if he forgot to do -p 4444`
`04:07.51`	`spldart`	`could he have and connected locally?`
`04:08.22`	`blast007`	`he would have been able to connect locally to 5154 if he forgot it`
`04:08.38`	`blast007`	`I keep thinking it would be nice to have more walkthroughs for running servers`
`04:08.50`	`blast007`	`then I realize I don't want it to be that easy...`
`04:08.56`	`spldart`	`:-x I thought I might ask that but he had -public and -publicaddr so I assumed he was past that level of setup`
`04:09.04`	`spldart`	`I ass u me 'd`
`04:09.10`	`blast007`	`:)`
`04:09.16`	`spldart`	`LMAO`
`04:09.38`	`spldart`	`IB JeffM... 'there is to many servers already'`
`04:10.25`	`spldart`	`back to bed..`
`04:10.29`	`blast007`	`there are ;)`
`04:13.34`	`Flash`	`thereis`
`04:13.37`	`Flash`	`there is`
`04:14.06`	`blast007`	`a psychic space bar!`
`04:14.14`	`blast007`	`"you wanted a space there"`
`04:14.22`	`Flash`	`DWIM`
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`07:15.19`	`cableguy932`	`hi ya meteorite`
`07:17.15`	`cableguy932`	`hi guys`
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`11:32.15`	`diing`	`Hello`
`11:32.42`	`biggeruniverse`	`Hello`
`11:32.51`	`*** join/#bzflag Destroyer (n=5886d26c@bz.bzflag.bz)`
`11:32.59`	`diing`	`hows it going`
`11:33.14`	`biggeruniverse`	`ok, I guess`
`11:33.52`	`biggeruniverse`	`have you been diing since the day you were born?`
`11:34.15`	`diing`	`im tired of that joke`
`11:34.19`	`biggeruniverse`	`heh`
`11:34.30`	`biggeruniverse`	`well, I don't get tired of jokes`
`11:34.47`	`biggeruniverse`	`you should change your nick, then`
`11:34.50`	`diing`	`i ussualy say stupid puns wen i play`
`11:35.10`	`diing`	`naw y would i change it`
`11:35.52`	`biggeruniverse`	`you should hear the jokes and puns I get`
`11:35.59`	`diing`	`im trying to get this hole banned email thing str8ened out`
`11:36.15`	`diing`	`lol`
`11:36.58`	`diing`	`ya our universe is expanding so fast some sientist think it might implode in a couple billon years`
`11:37.49`	`diing`	`hmm i wonder if ne1 else is on but just listening to us`
`11:37.59`	`biggeruniverse`	`fine with me, I'll won't be here to see it`
`11:38.10`	`diing`	`lol`
`11:38.22`	`biggeruniverse`	`although it would be kinda neat for the first 30 seconds or so`
`11:38.45`	`diing`	`thats wat most sientists want to say but they no they have to stop it`
`11:39.01`	`biggeruniverse`	`they can't`
`11:39.19`	`diing`	`accutaly in 100,000 years we should collide with another univers`
`11:39.32`	`biggeruniverse`	`you mean another galaxy`
`11:39.41`	`diing`	`ya`
`11:39.41`	`biggeruniverse`	`?`
`11:39.43`	`diing`	`sry`
`11:40.11`	`biggeruniverse`	`yeah, that's M31 - Andromeda`
`11:40.20`	`diing`	`and it would merge our central black hole with its central black hole and wede die within 50 minutes`
`11:40.31`	`diing`	`50years`
`11:40.45`	`diing`	`sry im stumbling over my words today`
`11:40.49`	`biggeruniverse`	`well, but our galaxy is already mid-collision with two small diffuse globular galaxies`
`11:41.06`	`diing`	`ya and a start cluster to our right`
`11:41.08`	`biggeruniverse`	`but we're just eating those, they are so diffuse`
`11:41.23`	`*** join/#bzflag Saturos (n=Saturos@p54BEE021.dip.t-dialin.net)`
`11:41.40`	`diing`	`so were pretty much going to die pretty soon if sientist dont get there head out there butts`
`11:42.36`	`diing`	`and if we dont act soon well be hit by a meteor the size of the moon`
`11:42.47`	`diing`	`wich will destroy us`
`11:42.57`	`biggeruniverse`	`and?`
`11:43.02`	`diing`	`hey saturos`
`11:43.10`	`Chestal`	`AFAIk it will takes some billion years for Andromeda and the Milky Way galaxies to merge`
`11:43.16`	`Saturos`	`hi :)`
`11:43.16`	`biggeruniverse`	`right`
`11:43.24`	`diing`	`lol`
`11:43.31`	`Chestal`	`and I wouldn't necessarily expect that it would have a large impact on the solar system`
`11:43.33`	`diing`	`we must sound like space geeks`
`11:43.40`	`biggeruniverse`	`at any rate, I'd rather the Earth were hit by the moon. That'd be a quick death`
`11:43.51`	`diing`	`wanna bet fool for brains`
`11:44.00`	`Saturos`	`Reminds me on Zelda: Majoras Mask ;)`
`11:44.09`	`biggeruniverse`	`Chestal: not unless some other star had a collision course`
`11:44.19`	`biggeruniverse`	`diing: that's not cool`
`11:44.28`	`Chestal`	`biggeruniverse: yes, if some star came too close, it would perturb the orbits`
`11:44.44`	`diing`	`the to galaxys have giant black hols and if they merger then well suck in more universes and it will get bigger and destroy the hole univers`
`11:44.44`	`Chestal`	`I don't know how probable that is, though.`
`11:44.46`	`biggeruniverse`	`Chestal: we could become an orphan planet`
`11:45.10`	`Chestal`	`anywy, the probability that humans in the current form will be living on Earth then is 0 :-)`
`11:45.24`	`biggeruniverse`	`even at double precision`
`11:45.25`	`diing`	`we will be totaly destroyed if they merger the galaxys`
`11:45.33`	`biggeruniverse`	`we won't be here`
`11:45.40`	`biggeruniverse`	`our star will likely be dead then`
`11:45.42`	`diing`	`ya`
`11:45.51`	`Chestal`	`Andromeda is probably already the rsult of a merger`
`11:46.01`	`Chestal`	`because it seems to have a dual black hole at the core`
`11:46.03`	`biggeruniverse`	`tho, bzflag may still be version > 3`
`11:46.04`	`diing`	`but we will have moved to a different solar system`
`11:46.08`	`biggeruniverse`	`*version < 3`
`11:46.13`	`diing`	`lol`
`11:46.35`	`diing`	`not likly to be around`
`11:46.45`	`biggeruniverse`	`diing: I don't think you understand a billion years`
`11:47.03`	`diing`	`i understand a billion years fine`
`11:47.09`	`biggeruniverse`	`we won't have moved`
`11:47.20`	`biggeruniverse`	`"we" as a race probably won't exist`
`11:47.47`	`diing`	`our sientist have found an inhabitable planet that is within range of 1 billion years`
`11:47.55`	`diing`	`ya true`
`11:48.00`	`biggeruniverse`	`"we" as a race haven't existed for more that 2/1000th of a billion years`
`11:48.24`	`diing`	`we will blow the earth up with ww3`
`11:48.33`	`Chestal`	`just wait for the singularity, it's close :-)`
`11:48.41`	`biggeruniverse`	`The earth is a closed system`
`11:48.42`	`diing`	`thats most likely to be end of world`
`11:49.02`	`diing`	`lol chest`
`11:49.12`	`biggeruniverse`	`nothing on Earth can destroy Earth`
`11:49.22`	`biggeruniverse`	`it was here before us, it will be here after us`
`11:49.32`	`diing`	`lol`
`11:49.40`	`biggeruniverse`	`singularity and all`
`11:49.49`	`diing`	`the earth has enough nukes to blow up mars`
`11:49.56`	`biggeruniverse`	`doubtful`
`11:50.01`	`diing`	`or acctualy attom bombs`
`11:50.02`	`biggeruniverse`	`you are misunderstanding scale`
`11:50.19`	`diing`	`dude im a astronamy geek`
`11:50.24`	`biggeruniverse`	`we'd have a tough time destroying the moon`
`11:50.30`	`biggeruniverse`	`that's sad`
`11:50.33`	`diing`	`i no the scale of earth`
`11:50.59`	`diing`	`dude the moon can be destroyed easily`
`11:51.04`	`biggeruniverse`	`with?`
`11:51.16`	`Chestal`	`microwave it, the cheese will melt`
`11:51.26`	`biggeruniverse`	`ah! damn cheese!`
`11:51.36`	`diing`	`we could knock it out of orbit with a bomb then it would take 1 more bomb to send it to the sun`
`11:51.41`	`diing`	`lol`
`11:51.50`	`biggeruniverse`	`num`
`11:51.52`	`biggeruniverse`	`*um`
`11:51.54`	`biggeruniverse`	`no`
`11:51.56`	`diing`	`lol`
`11:52.25`	`diing`	`u dont understand the scale of the amout of fire power we have on earth`
`11:52.44`	`biggeruniverse`	`mass of moon: 73x10^22`
`11:52.45`	`Chestal`	`we don't have so much`
`11:52.58`	`diing`	`if u only knew`
`11:53.22`	`Chestal`	`the big meteor impacts in the past had several order of magnitude more energy than all the atom bombs there are`
`11:53.56`	`diing`	`but im talking bout the moon not earth right now`
`11:54.19`	`Chestal`	`the moon is pretty huge, too`
`11:54.44`	`Chestal`	`you could do a new crater, though`
`11:55.04`	`biggeruniverse`	`73x10^22kg`
`11:55.10`	`diing`	`lol not nearly as huge and a lot of bombs that were specificly placed could blow up earth ez`
`11:55.16`	`biggeruniverse`	`that's a whole lot more than we can affect`
`11:55.29`	`biggeruniverse`	`dude`
`11:55.31`	`Chestal`	`all you can do is scratch earth a bit`
`11:55.39`	`diing`	`we dont need to nuke it directly`
`11:55.42`	`Chestal`	`you might be able to have a huge impact on the climate, tough`
`11:55.46`	`biggeruniverse`	`earth is 5.97x10^24kg`
`11:55.54`	`biggeruniverse`	`that's bigger than you can count`
`11:56.01`	`diing`	`w8 a sec to many convos going on at same time`
`11:56.20`	`Chestal`	`well, I'm off to soe social gathering, cu`
`11:56.34`	`biggeruniverse`	`cya`
`11:57.10`	`diing`	`its 1432.8 is wat ur saying bigger`
`11:57.22`	`biggeruniverse`	`?`
`11:57.23`	`diing`	`i can count that on 1 calculator`
`11:57.34`	`diing`	`o w8 nvm`
`11:57.41`	`diing`	`sry wrong sign`
`11:57.54`	`biggeruniverse`	`5970000000000000000000000kg`
`11:58.26`	`diing`	`ya`
`11:58.34`	`biggeruniverse`	`that's a lot`
`11:58.35`	`diing`	`i used the wrong sign`
`11:59.42`	`diing`	`but neways u only need to drop it out of orbit with alot of atom bombs then use a few to push it toward the sun`
`11:59.44`	`biggeruniverse`	`the Earth weighs 5970000000000000000 mega tons`
`11:59.54`	`diing`	`i dont care`
`12:00.20`	`diing`	`specificaly placed bombs can blow it fromn inside out`
`12:00.24`	`biggeruniverse`	`now factor in speed, and angular momentum`
`12:00.43`	`biggeruniverse`	`there is no bomb capable of affecting Earth's orbit`
`12:00.56`	`biggeruniverse`	`dude, we can't get past the crush`
`12:01.17`	`diing`	`i was talking bout earth a second ago`
`12:01.28`	`biggeruniverse`	`so am I`
`12:01.32`	`diing`	`i was talking bout the moon and the orbit thing`
`12:01.48`	`biggeruniverse`	`ok`
`12:02.07`	`biggeruniverse`	`the moon is 730000000000000000000000kg`
`12:02.13`	`diing`	`ya so`
`12:02.21`	`biggeruniverse`	`that's 730000000000000000 megatons`
`12:02.29`	`biggeruniverse`	`ok, name the bomb for that one`
`12:02.49`	`biggeruniverse`	`it'd have a name, since that'd pretty unique`
`12:03.01`	`biggeruniverse`	`*that'd be`
`12:03.44`	`diing`	`not 1 bomb but more then 1 but if the hole world took its armory and we knocked it out of orbit at the right time it would drift into the sun`
`12:03.55`	`biggeruniverse`	`remember, this doesn't account for inertia either`
`12:03.59`	`diing`	`were did chestal go`
`12:04.10`	`biggeruniverse`	`he has a life`
`12:04.11`	`diing`	`i no`
`12:04.18`	`diing`	`i do to`
`12:04.24`	`biggeruniverse`	`right, me too`
`12:04.39`	`diing`	`no u dont ur inanamate`
`12:04.52`	`diing`	`lol`
`12:05.06`	`diing`	`ur sposed to say well ur dead`
`12:05.08`	`diing`	`duh`
`12:05.21`	`biggeruniverse`	`...`
`12:05.34`	`diing`	`hehe`
`12:05.59`	`diing`	`i think of the comebaks other ppl can do before i speek`
`12:06.11`	`diing`	`like wise in chess`
`12:06.28`	`biggeruniverse`	`What if they use another, more valid, comeback?`
`12:07.06`	`biggeruniverse`	`What if I don't say what I was "supposed" to say?`
`12:07.11`	`diing`	`thats y its called chess because its a million move game`
`12:08.15`	`biggeruniverse`	`well, I have other things to be doing now`
`12:08.20`	`diing`	`thats y i make comebacks to all the comebaks u can do to my attack`
`12:08.25`	`diing`	`me to`
`12:08.30`	`diing`	`i got school`
`12:08.33`	`diing`	`cya`
`12:10.48`	`biggeruniverse`	`Why is anyone under the age of 17 allowed here?`
`12:11.48`	`brad`	`why not? ;)`
`12:13.07`	`biggeruniverse`	`How many times have I looked back and thought "What a stupid thing I said when I was young"`
`12:13.19`	`biggeruniverse`	`I hope he will do the same in this case.`
`12:13.55`	`biggeruniverse`	`I knew that would be your comeback`
`12:14.03`	`biggeruniverse`	`because chess is a million move game`
`12:14.04`	`CBG`	`Wow, just read that whole "conversation"...`
`12:14.15`	`biggeruniverse`	`CBG!`
`12:14.21`	`CBG`	`biggeruniverse!`
`12:30.08`	`spldart`	`good freaking grief`
`12:30.57`	`biggeruniverse`	`don't worry spldart, he was a mega maya maya astrogeek`
`12:31.16`	`spldart`	`right....`
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`12:31.22`	`CBG`	`evidentally....`
`12:31.37`	`CBG`	`[11:51am] <diing> we could knock it out of orbit with a bomb then it would take 1 more bomb to send it to the sun`
`12:31.47`	`CBG`	`More like a astroidiot.`
`12:31.50`	`CBG`	`an*`
`12:32.19`	`biggeruniverse`	`hmm.`
`12:32.25`	`biggeruniverse`	`I can see it now:`
`12:33.17`	`biggeruniverse`	`[Earth] Oh no! Some one set us up the bomb!`
`12:33.17`	`biggeruniverse`	`[CATS] You have no chance to escape, make your time.`
`12:33.17`	`biggeruniverse`	`[Earth] Release all ZIG!`
`12:33.20`	`biggeruniverse`	`etc`
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`12:34.01`	`spldart`	`all your base are belong to us`
`12:34.39`	`biggeruniverse`	`I was going for "all your planet are belong to sun", but that's true too.`
`12:35.30`	`biggeruniverse`	`I want to see how our scientists plan to impede the implosion of the universe- on Bush-era budgets, no less.`
`12:38.26`	`spldart`	`We will endeavor to persevere`
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`15:55.16`	`zee539`	`hi all`
`15:55.58`	`CBG`	`hello`
`15:57.21`	`SportChick`	`hi zee539`
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`18:43.14`	`JeffM2501`	`quiet day`
`18:43.28`	`SpazzyMcGee`	`everyone is watching the macworld irc channel`
`18:43.35`	`SpazzyMcGee`	`iPhone just announced`
`18:43.35`	`JeffM2501`	`ahh`
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`18:44.26`	`WarPig`	`#norand`
`18:44.33`	`WarPig`	`#norang`
`18:44.35`	`SpazzyMcGee`	`it's very nice indeed. best phone i've ever seen. widescreen ipod - all touch sensitive screen`
`18:44.45`	`JeffM2501`	`and must cost 1200$`
`18:44.48`	`WarPig`	`hello spazzy`
`18:45.11`	`SpazzyMcGee`	`Jeff: i expect so`
`18:45.18`	`SpazzyMcGee`	`warpig: hi`
`18:45.22`	`WarPig`	`hello \jeffm2501`
`18:45.27`	`JeffM2501`	`hello`
`18:45.28`	`WarPig`	`hello \jeffm2501`
`18:45.45`	`JeffM2501`	`wow`
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`18:46.56`	`WarPig`	`spazzy?`
`18:47.07`	`SpazzyMcGee`	`yeah?`
`18:47.21`	`WarPig`	`do u still have any servers?`
`18:48.46`	`SpazzyMcGee`	`I don't run them on my machine anymore`
`18:49.02`	`WarPig`	`ahh...ok`
`18:49.14`	`SpazzyMcGee`	`I run them from the planet mofo server, but i don't often.`
`18:49.22`	`SpazzyMcGee`	`usually only when i release a map`
`18:49.31`	`WarPig`	`i am not an admin am i?`
`18:49.40`	`WarPig`	`cos i usd to be`
`18:50.19`	`SpazzyMcGee`	`yeah, i think so. check usergroups at bzbb`
`18:50.34`	`WarPig`	`ok...just checking`
`18:50.56`	`SpazzyMcGee`	`i still use spazzy.cops and spazzy.admins, though i did clean out some.`
`18:55.31`	`JeffM2501`	`that is NOT a cheap phone`
`18:56.27`	`ts`	`JeffM2501: It does not seem to be meant as phone, rather as a sort of PDA`
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`18:56.37`	`JeffM2501`	`smartphone`
`18:56.43`	`WarPig`	`spazzy are you there?`
`18:56.49`	`SpazzyMcGee`	`i am`
`18:57.10`	`WarPig`	`i cant talk to u privately`
`18:58.20`	`JeffM2501`	`register your nick and you can`
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`19:01.39`	`WarPig`	`ok it should be registered`
`19:01.41`	`JeffM2501`	`WarPig, perhaps you should get a real IRC client`
`19:01.46`	`JeffM2501`	`so you don't keep geting droped`
`19:02.42`	`WarPig`	`whats an IRC client?`
`19:02.52`	`WarPig`	`i suck at computers`
`19:03.02`	`JeffM2501`	`a program that lets you get on this IRC channel with out using the flakey web page`
`19:03.37`	`WarPig`	`does it matter?`
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`19:03.40`	`JeffM2501`	`you will get droped less`
`19:03.44`	`JeffM2501`	`and be able to do more things`
`19:03.48`	`WarPig`	`droped?`
`19:03.57`	`JeffM2501`	`you keep diconecting and conecting`
`19:04.05`	`WarPig`	`i knw`
`19:04.15`	`JeffM2501`	`a real IRC client will do that less`
`19:04.24`	`JeffM2501`	`the web interface is very simple`
`19:04.31`	`WarPig`	`where do i get it?`
`19:04.39`	`JeffM2501`	`what OS are you on?`
`19:04.50`	`WarPig`	`windows`
`19:05.06`	`JeffM2501`	`then you can go get a program like MIRC, or one of the free X chat builds`
`19:05.21`	`WarPig`	`kk`
`19:05.25`	`WarPig`	`thanks man`
`19:05.49`	`JeffM2501`	`http://www.silverex.org/download/xchat-2.6.8-1.exe is a good one`
`19:05.57`	`WarPig`	`kk`
`19:06.02`	`JeffM2501`	`then just have it join freenode.net and then join #bzflag`
`19:06.22`	`WarPig`	`kl kl`
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`19:10.45`	`WarPig`	`it say i am refused`
`19:12.09`	`JeffM2501`	`you runing an open proxy server?`
`19:13.30`	`WarPig`	`i am at school`
`19:13.38`	`WarPig`	`in the schools network`
`19:13.41`	`JeffM2501`	`then your school blocks IRC`
`19:13.46`	`WarPig`	`yep`
`19:13.50`	`JeffM2501`	`cus you probably should be studying :)`
`19:13.51`	`WarPig`	`oh wel...`
`19:14.00`	`WarPig`	`yeah sure`
`19:14.07`	`WarPig`	`i do lots of that!!! lol`
`19:14.48`	`WarPig`	`can u help me with one thing?`
`19:14.54`	`[NP]Tangent`	`glad I'm done with high school`
`19:15.04`	`JeffM2501`	`what one thing?`
`19:16.04`	`WarPig`	`well...i am trying to`
`19:16.04`	`WarPig`	`oops i didnt mean to press enter`
`19:16.09`	`WarPig`	`i donbt have acsess to bzfag here`
`19:16.19`	`WarPig`	`so i play with bots`
`19:16.30`	`WarPig`	`but it gets boring`
`19:16.56`	`WarPig`	`so i wnated to have like an admins power`
`19:17.09`	`WarPig`	`just n local host`
`19:17.12`	`JeffM2501`	`start your server with -password`
`19:18.03`	`WarPig`	`yeah..thumper told me that i should type the code "whatever it is" into bzfs.exe`
`19:18.10`	`JeffM2501`	`yes`
`19:18.20`	`JeffM2501`	`you can't do it if you use the in game server start menu`
`19:18.26`	`WarPig`	`but bzfs doesnt let me type`
`19:18.30`	`JeffM2501`	`you have to manualy start your server from the command line`
`19:18.32`	`JeffM2501`	`as a paramater`
`19:18.41`	`JeffM2501`	`bzfs -password SOME_PASSWORD`
`19:18.53`	`WarPig`	`on the command line?`
`19:19.01`	`JeffM2501`	`the dos prompt`
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`19:20.45`	`WarPig`	`sorry a teacher came`
`19:20.49`	`WarPig`	`had to close`
`19:20.55`	`JeffM2501`	`perhaps you shoudln't be doing this at school then`
`19:21.06`	`WarPig`	`its fine`
`19:21.19`	`JeffM2501`	`no it's not, not if you have to close it when someone comes by :)`
`19:21.43`	`WarPig`	`well...i am at school all the time`
`19:21.51`	`WarPig`	`its a boarding school`
`19:22.01`	`JeffM2501`	`so`
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`19:22.35`	`WarPig`	`and this is the speacial time that we are supposed to do homwork`
`19:22.41`	`WarPig`	`but i dont have any`
`19:23.03`	`WarPig`	`so...i run what code. on the command line`
`19:23.21`	`JeffM2501`	`you'd add -password to your list of paramaters`
`19:23.55`	`WarPig`	`kk`
`19:24.40`	`WarPig`	`its says bzfs is not a inernal/external command`
`19:24.54`	`JeffM2501`	`you have to cd to the dir where bzfs is`
`19:25.05`	`JeffM2501`	`perhaps you should read up on how to use your computer`
`19:25.21`	`WarPig`	`ok....i know i suck`
`19:25.30`	`WarPig`	`but im not that bad`
`19:25.58`	`JeffM2501`	`runing a server with more options isn't a point and click thing`
`19:26.13`	`WarPig`	`ok..`
`19:26.20`	`WarPig`	`doesnt matter`
`19:26.29`	`WarPig`	`thanks for help anyway`
`19:26.31`	`donny_baker`	`cd \program files\bzflag2.0.x whwew x is your vesion number`
`19:26.33`	`WarPig`	`bye`
`19:26.41`	`JeffM2501`	`c:\ as well`
`19:26.49`	`WarPig`	`ok`
`19:30.44`	`WarPig`	`bye all`
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`19:50.53`	`diing`	`hey`
`19:51.50`	`CBG`	`Anyone know what a neutron star is?`
`19:52.12`	`diing`	`kinda`
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`19:52.24`	`diing`	`y u wanna no`
`19:53.14`	`diing`	`y is it every1 does that`
`19:53.27`	`CBG`	`They saw your name, I guess.`
`19:53.33`	`diing`	`hehe`
`19:54.28`	`diing`	`hmm i wonder if ne1 else is on or if they just r all here`
`19:54.56`	`CBG`	`None are as stupid as I. :(`
`19:55.05`	`diing`	`y u say that`
`19:55.16`	`CBG`	`Oh, nothing...`
`19:55.28`	`diing`	`dont be mean to urself`
`19:55.47`	`CBG`	`I wasn't. ;)`
`19:55.58`	`diing`	`looked like u were`
`19:56.21`	`CBG`	`Looks can and will be deceiving.`
`19:56.22`	`diing`	`hmm lemme guess r u doing sience homework or something`
`19:56.49`	`CBG`	`Nope..`
`19:56.49`	`diing`	`lol its can be decieving`
`19:56.55`	`diing`	`they rnt always`
`19:56.58`	`CBG`	`Hmm?`
`19:56.58`	`blast007`	`diing: no, he just want's to find the best way to destroy the universe`
`19:57.04`	`diing`	`then y u wanna no that`
`19:57.26`	`CBG`	`Dude, I don't understand 97.6% of what you're saying.`
`19:57.40`	`diing`	`huh`
`19:57.51`	`blast007`	`Tupone: hehe :)`
`19:57.59`	`Tupone`	`:)`
`19:58.03`	`diing`	`wat did that mean`
`19:58.15`	`CBG`	`diing: do you know what "?" is?`
`19:58.49`	`blast007`	`Tupone: maybe some just do too many SMS messages ;)`
`19:59.07`	`Tupone`	`hmm, maybe this one`
`19:59.10`	`Tupone`	`:)`
`19:59.12`	`CBG`	`They have question marks on those too, last I checked.`
`19:59.30`	`diing`	`how do u write a message to some1`
`19:59.37`	`blast007`	`with a pen`
`19:59.53`	`diing`	`-.-`
`19:59.55`	`CBG`	`First, learn to use the "?" character.`
`20:00.16`	`diing`	`ok.`
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`20:01.07`	`diing_for_the_te`	`sry bout the dissconect`
`20:01.19`	`CBG`	`Don't be.`
`20:01.25`	`CBG`	`That is not the thing to be sorry for.`
`20:01.35`	`diing_for_the_te`	`huh?`
`20:01.50`	`blast007`	`diing_for_the_te: you should get a real client if you're going to hang out :)`
`20:02.07`	`CBG`	`He can hang out of the channel with no client at all!`
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`20:03.36`	`diing_for_the_te`	`wat u mean i have no client`
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`20:05.03`	`diing_for_the_te`	`wat was that sposed to mean cbg`
`20:05.24`	`CBG`	`Learn to use the "?" character, geez.`
`20:05.45`	`diing_for_the_te`	`learn to spell geeze first`
`20:06.09`	`tannerld`	`....`
`20:07.00`	`CBG`	`Since neither "geez" or "geeze" are words, you are no more correct than I.`
`20:07.21`	`CBG`	`You are in fact, less correct. Do you know what capital letters are? What about punctuation?`
`20:07.24`	`diing_for_the_te`	`acctualy its anamonapia`
`20:07.32`	`diing_for_the_te`	`or however u spell it`
`20:07.51`	`blast007`	`~spell anamonapia`
`20:07.52`	`CBG`	`You just made up another word, "congradz".`
`20:08.09`	`diing_for_the_te`	`do u no wat internet slang is`
`20:08.21`	`diing_for_the_te`	`hey ibot`
`20:08.54`	`CBG`	`~lart diing_for_the_te`
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`20:09.00`	`Bz_Win`	`boop`
`20:09.05`	`blast007`	`beep`
`20:09.12`	`CBG`	`blip`
`20:09.24`	`diing_for_the_te`	`its where u dont type the whole word but just short peices of it cbg`
`20:09.42`	`diing_for_the_te`	`yes that is anamonapia`
`20:09.43`	`blast007`	`diing_for_the_te: that's not Internet slang, it's called AOL`
`20:09.49`	`CBG`	`diing_for_the_te: "anamonapia" is not a word in the English language.`
`20:09.50`	`tannerld`	`blast007: amen`
`20:09.58`	`Tupone`	`diing_for_the_te: this is not a general chat room. Is specialized for development of bzflag. I said development, maybe even help. If you need help or want to participate to developing, better we understand clearly what you says. We don't need internet slang, or we need just for fun.`
`20:10.00`	`Bz_Win`	`If I may interject to what you just said, it makes more sense to type the whole word.`
`20:10.09`	`Bz_Win`	`Why not?`
`20:10.16`	`Bz_Win`	`takes all of 1 second longer`
`20:10.50`	`CBG`	`Tupone writes far better English and it's not his first language.`
`20:11.31`	`blast007`	`but anyway...`
`20:11.46`	`a_temp_dist`	`http://www.reference.com/browse/wiki/Onomatopoeia`
`20:12.09`	`Tupone`	`hehe, we know that :)`
`20:12.50`	`Tupone`	`from the greek`
`20:14.03`	`CBG`	`a_temp_dist: what is the relevance of the link? :)`
`20:14.39`	`blast007`	`CBG: it's the word that diing was trying to spell right`
`20:15.24`	`Tupone`	`yep`
`20:16.08`	`CBG`	`Oh, I see... I was trying to make _sense_ of it all.`
`20:16.15`	`CBG`	`That's my mistake - the reason for my confusion.`
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`20:21.13`	`diing_for_the_te`	`oh ya um is ne1 here a bzflag forum admin`
`20:21.30`	`CBG`	`Nope.`
`20:21.32`	`CBG`	`Nobody at all.`
`20:21.35`	`CBG`	`Why?`
`20:22.10`	`Bz_Win`	`Ill say this again. dude, learn how to spell.`
`20:23.07`	`diing_for_the_te`	`shut up. is that good enough`
`20:23.29`	`Bz_Win`	`"ne1"? it took my longer to figure out what ti said then it would take someone to type "anyone"`
`20:24.07`	`CBG`	`diing_for_the_te: it would be, if you finished the line correctly...`
`20:24.19`	`blast007`	`Bz_Win: yeah, cause "ne1" could either be AOL or leet`
`20:24.37`	`blast007`	`as AOL, it's "any one?" and as leet it's "nel"`
`20:26.46`	`diing_for_the_te`	`or as something i decided to start on leet its ne1`
`20:27.30`	`blast007`	`what?`
`20:27.46`	`blast007`	`Does Not Compute`
`20:27.50`	`Manu`	`blast007: keep in mind he is only 13 ;)`
`20:28.03`	`tannerld`	`I not that much older...`
`20:28.06`	`tannerld`	`*I'm`
`20:28.13`	`blast007`	`Manu: god, I hope I wasn't like that when I was 13, but I probably was`
`20:28.20`	`diing_for_the_te`	`o shut up u dirty lil snake,manu`
`20:28.40`	`Manu`	`diing_for_the_te: be friendly you you'll get banned`
`20:28.46`	`Manu`	`or*`
`20:28.52`	`blast007`	`diing_for_the_te: well, it's true :)`
`20:29.18`	`Bz_Win`	`this is like a soap opera :p`
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`20:30.01`	`blast007`	`Bz_Win: but with less drama and more text`
`20:30.18`	`tannerld`	`opea's don't have text; only notes :D`
`20:30.23`	`tannerld`	`*operaas`
`20:30.36`	`Bz_Win`	`hehe`
`20:30.46`	`blast007`	`tannerld: closed captioning!`
`20:30.46`	`diing_for_the_te`	`opras dont have either they have singing`
`20:30.59`	`tannerld`	`blast007: hehe`
`20:31.05`	`tannerld`	`notes = singing`
`20:31.09`	`Bz_Win`	`:D`
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`20:31.39`	`diing_for_the_te`	`not realy`
`20:31.55`	`Bz_Win`	`I can sing a b flat concert scale, that's singing...`
`20:32.41`	`diing_for_the_te`	`i can play concert b flat on a trombone`
`20:32.59`	`CBG`	`This dude is still talking? sigh`
`20:33.00`	`blast007`	`I can play a concert b flat on my computer, so HAH`
`20:33.06`	`tannerld`	`blast007: lol`
`20:33.26`	`diing_for_the_te`	`lol`
`20:33.32`	`Bz_Win`	`...`
`20:33.51`	`Bz_Win`	`I can't leave yet, I still have some more abuse left in me`
`20:34.07`	`blast007`	`<PROTECTED>`
`20:34.10`	`ibot`	`ACTION beats Bz_Win with a very wet, sticky noodle`
`20:34.10`	`blast007`	`er`
`20:34.18`	`L4m3r`	`and diing_for_the_te, I suggest that next time you make a callign, you run spell check on it first.`
`20:34.22`	`blast007`	`oh, it does work with a space`
`20:34.32`	`L4m3r`	`~spell diing`
`20:34.35`	`diing_for_the_te`	`ill beat bz_win with a broom if thats alright`
`20:34.40`	`Bz_Win`	`~murder blast007`
`20:34.41`	`ibot`	`ACTION shoots blast007 in his sleep`
`20:34.44`	`Bz_Win`	`yay`
`20:34.54`	`blast007`	`that's mean`
`20:34.59`	`Bz_Win`	`i know :p`
`20:35.00`	`blast007`	`all I used was a noodle`
`20:35.07`	`Bz_Win`	`it was a shippy noodle`
`20:35.09`	`CBG`	`diing_for_the_te: no, it's not.`
`20:35.11`	`tannerld`	`~resurrect blast007`
`20:35.13`	`ibot`	`ACTION gathers all his magical powers (and some prayin'!) and resurrects blast007 from the dead.`
`20:35.13`	`Bz_Win`	`shh, your dead`
`20:35.18`	`tannerld`	`blast007: poof`
`20:35.20`	`diing_for_the_te`	`btw diing is my last name`
`20:35.27`	`CBG`	`Noobs who can't type don't get any such privilege.`
`20:35.28`	`Bz_Win`	`~hide tannerld`
`20:35.29`	`ibot`	`ACTION gets a huge black sheet and covers tannerld with it so that nobody can see what tannerld is doing!`
`20:35.39`	`blast007`	`anyway....`
`20:37.49`	`diing_for_the_te`	`that sounds gross ibot`
`20:40.14`	`diing_for_the_te`	`bye bye`
`20:40.21`	`L4m3r`	`yay!`
`20:40.32`	`CBG`	`thank the lord.`
`20:40.34`	`tannerld`	`<:)`
`20:40.39`	`Bz_Win`	`dance in the streets, everyone!`
`20:40.39`	`CBG`	`someone lock the door`
`20:41.05`	`Bz_Win`	`I did.`
`21:03.29`	`*** join/#bzflag paoloTheCool (n=42204beb@bz.bzflag.bz)`
`21:03.53`	`paoloTheCool`	`does anyone know if theres a sample .conf file on the WWW somewhere?`
`21:04.05`	`JeffM2501`	`one is included in the source`
`21:04.15`	`paoloTheCool`	`i mean like an actual sample`
`21:04.18`	`JeffM2501`	`but realy it's just a text file with the command line args`
`21:04.25`	`JeffM2501`	`they are easy to make`
`21:04.29`	`paoloTheCool`	`i have one`
`21:04.35`	`ts`	`Just check out the source and search for it. It does ship with the source.`
`21:04.36`	`paoloTheCool`	`but my server isnt working`
`21:04.40`	`paoloTheCool`	`and its really starting to tick me off`
`21:04.44`	`JeffM2501`	`what error does it give you?`
`21:04.55`	`paoloTheCool`	`it doesnt go onto the public list`
`21:05.06`	`CBG`	`You used -public ?`
`21:05.08`	`paoloTheCool`	`i opened all ports on router, and on firewall`
`21:05.08`	`JeffM2501`	`you have -public and -publicaddr ?`
`21:05.14`	`paoloTheCool`	`yah`
`21:05.38`	`paoloTheCool`	`it doesn't read server....so there must be something im doing wrong`
`21:05.56`	`JeffM2501`	`add -d -d -d see if you get any errors`
`21:06.05`	`paoloTheCool`	`-d -d -d?`
`21:06.12`	`CBG`	`or "-ddd"`
`21:06.12`	`paoloTheCool`	`what does that do?`
`21:06.26`	`CBG`	`Adds debugging levels - gives you more output.`
`21:06.26`	`JeffM2501`	`adds more debug output`
`21:06.37`	`paoloTheCool`	`ah`
`21:07.15`	`blast007`	`paoloTheCool: do you have this? -p 4444`
`21:07.18`	`paoloTheCool`	`is there something i should look at specifically?`
`21:07.21`	`blast007`	`forgot to ask you yesterday`
`21:07.22`	`paoloTheCool`	`yes`
`21:07.25`	`paoloTheCool`	`yah i do`
`21:07.26`	`paoloTheCool`	`:)`
`21:07.31`	`blast007`	`can you connect to the server locally?`
`21:07.39`	`paoloTheCool`	`localHost`
`21:07.42`	`paoloTheCool`	`4444`
`21:07.46`	`blast007`	`k`
`21:07.47`	`paoloTheCool`	`yes`
`21:08.16`	`paoloTheCool`	`wehn i put -ddd`
`21:08.20`	`paoloTheCool`	`and open server`
`21:08.21`	`paoloTheCool`	`it says`
`21:08.37`	`paoloTheCool`	`Queing ADD message to list server`
`21:08.46`	`paoloTheCool`	`does that mean its trying to add it?`
`21:08.58`	`JeffM2501`	`that means that you've contacted the list server`
`21:09.03`	`JeffM2501`	`and said you want to be added`
`21:09.12`	`JeffM2501`	`do you then see a conection form the list server?`
`21:09.14`	`paoloTheCool`	`but it wont add...so that means _____`
`21:09.20`	`JeffM2501`	`cus the list will go and verify that you are a real server`
`21:09.22`	`paoloTheCool`	`thats the last thing i see`
`21:09.25`	`JeffM2501`	`your on port 4444 ?`
`21:09.28`	`paoloTheCool`	`yes`
`21:09.38`	`JeffM2501`	`so what is your -publicaddr ?`
`21:09.57`	`paoloTheCool`	`nightbreak01.homelinux.com:4444`
`21:09.59`	`blast007`	`paoloTheCool: is it running right now?`
`21:10.07`	`paoloTheCool`	`yes`
`21:10.31`	`blast007`	`well, for one, your IP changed`
`21:10.39`	`paoloTheCool`	`really?`
`21:10.41`	`blast007`	`so your hostname doesn't match up anymore`
`21:10.43`	`JeffM2501`	`the addr has to match the incoming IP`
`21:10.54`	`blast007`	`your IP is 66.32.75.235 right now`
`21:11.02`	`paoloTheCool`	`i hate unstatic IPs`
`21:11.03`	`paoloTheCool`	`:)`
`21:11.07`	`blast007`	`plus, when I use nmap, it's not showing as "Open"`
`21:11.17`	`blast007`	`so there is still an issue getting in to your bzfs server`
`21:11.33`	`JeffM2501`	`if the list can't contact your server from outside, it won't list you`
`21:11.54`	`paoloTheCool`	`ok`
`21:11.57`	`paoloTheCool`	`i fixed my IP`
`21:12.13`	`paoloTheCool`	`at dyndns.com`
`21:12.21`	`JeffM2501`	`and your router has port 4444 routed to your server machine?`
`21:12.21`	`JeffM2501`	`for TCP and UDP?`
`21:12.24`	`paoloTheCool`	`yes`
`21:12.33`	`blast007`	`paoloTheCool: forward 5154 to your computer, and then run "bzfs -ddd -p 5154"`
`21:12.40`	`blast007`	`just as a basic test`
`21:12.42`	`paoloTheCool`	`use 5154?`
`21:12.47`	`blast007`	`yeah`
`21:12.57`	`blast007`	`actually you wouldn't even need -p 5154 I guess`
`21:12.57`	`JeffM2501`	`tha'ts the default`
`21:13.12`	`JeffM2501`	`just bzfs, then you'll make sure that your routes are set`
`21:13.33`	`paoloTheCool`	`true`
`21:13.42`	`paoloTheCool`	`ok editing my router`
`21:13.45`	`paoloTheCool`	`almost done`
`21:14.07`	`paoloTheCool`	`does any one else ahave a linksys router?`
`21:14.38`	`paoloTheCool`	`ok`
`21:14.44`	`paoloTheCool`	`i tried to run the server and it said`
`21:15.08`	`blast007`	`paoloTheCool: I have a linksys`
`21:15.15`	`blast007`	`two actually :)`
`21:15.19`	`paoloTheCool`	`"File transer terminated with error from libcurl 28: Operation too slow.....yatayata`
`21:15.27`	`blast007`	`that's fine for now`
`21:15.31`	`blast007`	`it's running though?`
`21:15.36`	`paoloTheCool`	`so i should um....not be using wireless?`
`21:15.39`	`paoloTheCool`	`:-`
`21:15.40`	`paoloTheCool`	`}`
`21:15.43`	`CBG`	`blast007: showoff`
`21:15.43`	`paoloTheCool`	`oops`
`21:15.56`	`paoloTheCool`	`haha... ihave 2 linksys also :)`
`21:16.08`	`blast007`	`CBG: I wanted to get another one before they switched away from linux :P`
`21:16.26`	`blast007`	`paoloTheCool: still not showing as an "Open" port`
`21:16.27`	`paoloTheCool`	`so...basically its not working bc my internet is too slow right now?`
`21:16.36`	`blast007`	`no`
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`21:16.43`	`blast007`	`that was just when it was grabbing the masterban`
`21:16.57`	`paoloTheCool`	`whic means`
`21:17.00`	`paoloTheCool`	`that i should do waht?`
`21:17.01`	`JeffM2501`	`it's not working cus ether your router or ISP is not sending packets from the internet to your bzfs`
`21:17.02`	`blast007`	`it retrys later`
`21:17.23`	`paoloTheCool`	`that sucks....what do i do?`
`21:17.28`	`paoloTheCool`	`so u have a linksys right?`
`21:17.34`	`paoloTheCool`	`how do i open port?`
`21:17.34`	`blast007`	`the linksys should be able to forward the stuff just fine, so it might ben an ISP block`
`21:17.52`	`paoloTheCool`	`which means....`
`21:18.11`	`blast007`	`"Applications and Gaming" for forwarding`
`21:18.15`	`paoloTheCool`	`yah`
`21:18.17`	`paoloTheCool`	`but in that`
`21:18.19`	`paoloTheCool`	`for port`
`21:18.23`	`paoloTheCool`	`it has "Start" and "End"`
`21:18.28`	`paoloTheCool`	`i put 5154 in both`
`21:18.30`	`paoloTheCool`	`is that right?`
`21:18.31`	`blast007`	`yup`
`21:18.40`	`paoloTheCool`	`so what else can i do?`
`21:18.49`	`blast007`	`verify that your LAN ip matches the one you forwarded it too`
`21:19.02`	`paoloTheCool`	`where do i edit that?`
`21:19.25`	`paoloTheCool`	`linksys?`
`21:19.40`	`blast007`	`check your computer's IP address`
`21:19.54`	`blast007`	`and make sure the linksys is pointing to that too for the 5154 port`
`21:19.57`	`paoloTheCool`	`wait....where it says IP address....i put my IP address right?`
`21:20.06`	`blast007`	`yeah`
`21:20.13`	`paoloTheCool`	`oops`
`21:20.14`	`blast007`	`the one running the server`
`21:20.25`	`paoloTheCool`	`k`
`21:20.58`	`paoloTheCool`	`i had the wrong IP`
`21:21.02`	`paoloTheCool`	`i tried again`
`21:21.04`	`paoloTheCool`	`but it still wont work`
`21:21.41`	`blast007`	`one of them running right now?`
`21:21.49`	`blast007`	`still showing as "filtered" here`
`21:22.23`	`paoloTheCool`	`not right now`
`21:22.26`	`paoloTheCool`	`i just tried again`
`21:22.33`	`paoloTheCool`	`same error`
`21:23.45`	`paoloTheCool`	`grrr`
`21:23.48`	`paoloTheCool`	`still not working`
`21:26.36`	`*** join/#bzflag bz09 (n=d4f77611@bz.bzflag.bz)`
`21:28.08`	`bz09`	`Any Two Castle Server Admin available here?`
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`21:34.45`	`Tupone`	`paoloTheCool: maybe your access to the list server is filtered or, in other words, going through a proxy`
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`21:39.17`	`paoloTheCool`	`how do i fix that?`
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`21:48.37`	`paoloTheCool`	`you said that maybe i was filtered?`
`21:48.52`	`paoloTheCool`	`blast007....`
`21:48.54`	`paoloTheCool`	`u der?`
`21:49.03`	`donny_baker`	`paolo: im looking for something for you`
`21:49.21`	`paoloTheCool`	`k`
`21:53.12`	`donny_baker`	`paolo: I struck out.. can't find it`
`21:54.49`	`paoloTheCool`	`so...i havePC and im trying to run a server`
`21:54.54`	`paoloTheCool`	`but nothing seems to be working out`
`21:55.06`	`donny_baker`	`have you tried a minimal config?`
`21:55.15`	`paoloTheCool`	`meaning?`
`21:55.19`	`JeffM2501`	`when you set up your router are you doing port forwarding? or somethign else?`
`21:55.19`	`donny_baker`	`only the connection stuff`
`21:55.54`	`paoloTheCool`	`donny_baker....i have the connection stuff and flags etc in my config file`
`21:56.15`	`JeffM2501`	`he did a bare minimum and blast coudn't get to him`
`21:56.17`	`paoloTheCool`	`JeffM2501...according to blast007....i think im doing the right thing`
`21:56.18`	`JeffM2501`	`it's a routing issue`
`21:56.23`	`JeffM2501`	`was he able to get to you?`
`21:56.32`	`JeffM2501`	`and connect to your server?`
`21:56.36`	`donny_baker`	`ok... I would concur then`
`21:56.37`	`paoloTheCool`	`i dont think so`
`21:56.47`	`JeffM2501`	`then your not routed properly`
`21:56.52`	`JeffM2501`	`or your ISP is blocking you`
`21:57.06`	`paoloTheCool`	`internet service provider?`
`21:57.15`	`paoloTheCool`	`(sorry...im not that computer savy) :)`
`21:57.15`	`JeffM2501`	`yes`
`21:57.33`	`JeffM2501`	`running a server requires some knowledge`
`21:57.37`	`paoloTheCool`	`so...how would i know if they are blocking or not`
`21:57.40`	`donny_baker`	`have you gotten into your router to configure it at all?`
`21:57.41`	`JeffM2501`	`or you can get into a realy big security mess`
`21:57.53`	`paoloTheCool`	`donny_baker....yes`
`21:57.54`	`JeffM2501`	`who is your ISP?`
`21:58.15`	`paoloTheCool`	`meaning...like earthlink or roadrunner or juno?`
`21:58.19`	`JeffM2501`	`yes`
`21:58.24`	`paoloTheCool`	`i think its earthlink`
`21:58.33`	`JeffM2501`	`dunno if they block`
`21:58.36`	`JeffM2501`	`http://portforward.com/routers.htm`
`21:58.48`	`JeffM2501`	`that has instructions on how to forward ports for most routers`
`22:00.14`	`paoloTheCool`	`for port forwarding, is configing the router the only thing u have to do?`
`22:00.17`	`paoloTheCool`	`or are there other things?`
`22:00.30`	`JeffM2501`	`do you have a firewall on the PC?`
`22:00.34`	`paoloTheCool`	`yes`
`22:00.45`	`paoloTheCool`	`i have those ports as Exceptions`
`22:00.47`	`JeffM2501`	`is it set to allow the port in and out to the bzfs application?`
`22:00.48`	`JeffM2501`	`ok`
`22:00.51`	`JeffM2501`	`then yeah that should be it`
`22:01.19`	`paoloTheCool`	`when i try to run bzfs with debugger it says`
`22:01.38`	`JeffM2501`	`the curl message?`
`22:01.40`	`paoloTheCool`	`File Transfer terminated....`
`22:01.44`	`paoloTheCool`	`yah`
`22:01.45`	`JeffM2501`	`yeah`
`22:01.50`	`paoloTheCool`	`it says operation too slow`
`22:02.07`	`JeffM2501`	`sounds like something is blocking the masterban grap`
`22:02.17`	`JeffM2501`	`does your firewall let port 80 out for bzfs?`
`22:03.05`	`paoloTheCool`	`would it be under "Exceptions"`
`22:03.07`	`paoloTheCool`	`?`
`22:03.28`	`JeffM2501`	`don't know your firewall do dunno`
`22:03.42`	`paoloTheCool`	`oh`
`22:03.55`	`paoloTheCool`	`i know it always bzFlag`
`22:04.01`	`paoloTheCool`	`allows`
`22:04.07`	`paoloTheCool`	`the exe`
`22:04.14`	`JeffM2501`	`bzflag is made up of 3 exe`
`22:04.23`	`JeffM2501`	`bzflag.exe, bzfs.exe and bzadmin.exe`
`22:04.29`	`paoloTheCool`	`well it has here bzflag.exe`
`22:04.34`	`JeffM2501`	`that's not enough`
`22:04.41`	`JeffM2501`	`for a server you need to also do bzfs.exe`
`22:04.47`	`JeffM2501`	`that's the one that needs the port execptions`
`22:04.47`	`paoloTheCool`	`it also has that`
`22:04.55`	`JeffM2501`	`then I dunno`
`22:05.34`	`paoloTheCool`	`would i have to had service`
`22:05.36`	`paoloTheCool`	`under firewall?`
`22:05.49`	`JeffM2501`	`again, I don't know your specific firewall software`
`22:05.57`	`paoloTheCool`	`windows firewall`
`22:06.02`	`JeffM2501`	`I don't use it`
`22:06.56`	`paoloTheCool`	`apparanetly that isn't the problem....bc i turned it off (firewall) and it stil has same error`
`22:07.18`	`JeffM2501`	`then something else somewhere is blocking you`
`22:07.39`	`paoloTheCool`	`this is ++++++annoying`
`22:07.44`	`paoloTheCool`	`we cant people just be normal`
`22:07.46`	`paoloTheCool`	`:)`
`22:07.59`	`paoloTheCool`	`why cant things just work out always`
`22:08.00`	`paoloTheCool`	`:)`
`22:08.33`	`donny_baker`	`the problem is solvable, but it will probably require some research on your part`
`22:08.34`	`paoloTheCool`	`would norton be a problem?`
`22:08.44`	`JeffM2501`	`anything could be the problem`
`22:08.46`	`paoloTheCool`	`yes, i know :(`
`22:08.47`	`JeffM2501`	`there are many posibilitys`
`22:08.53`	`JeffM2501`	`you will have to do the work and track it down.`
`22:09.40`	`paoloTheCool`	`remote access? under norton....is this considered remote access?`
`22:09.45`	`JeffM2501`	`no`
`22:11.32`	`paoloTheCool`	`k`
`22:11.46`	`paoloTheCool`	`would it change anything if i used ethernet instead of wireless`
`22:13.15`	`donny_baker`	`doubt it, but worth a try`
`22:14.03`	`Tupone`	`paoloTheCool: I hope your internal address is static. isn't it?`
`22:14.35`	`paoloTheCool`	`um`
`22:14.42`	`paoloTheCool`	`no`
`22:15.08`	`Tupone`	`and how you forward it?`
`22:15.38`	`Tupone`	`you have to forward 5154 or whatever address is to your internal address`
`22:15.53`	`Tupone`	`s/address/port/`
`22:16.00`	`CBG`	`he can forward to whatever his current lan ip is.`
`22:16.12`	`paoloTheCool`	`i forwarded it to my lan IP`
`22:16.26`	`JeffM2501`	`you only have one lan IP?`
`22:16.43`	`paoloTheCool`	`yes`
`22:17.08`	`Tupone`	`well, at least you have 2, your client and router`
`22:17.15`	`*** part/#bzflag donny_baker (n=donny_ba@mse1.bowencenter.org)`
`22:17.45`	`paoloTheCool`	`i have my IP on my compupter`
`22:17.48`	`paoloTheCool`	`computer`
`22:18.06`	`paoloTheCool`	`and default gateway`
`22:18.17`	`CBG`	`paoloTheCool: something like 192.168.1.2 ?`
`22:18.18`	`paoloTheCool`	`and 3 DNS IPs`
`22:18.24`	`paoloTheCool`	`yes`
`22:18.46`	`CBG`	`So, you forward port 5154 from router to your LAN IP, like above ?`
`22:19.08`	`paoloTheCool`	`yes`
`22:19.17`	`Tupone`	`and you forward both tcp and udp`
`22:19.22`	`paoloTheCool`	`yes`
`22:19.28`	`CBG`	`And you open the port on firewall, etc?`
`22:19.35`	`paoloTheCool`	`yes`
`22:19.41`	`CBG`	`hmm...`
`22:19.49`	`CBG`	`seems like you have all bases covered.`
`22:19.49`	`Tupone`	`you have your server on now?`
`22:20.04`	`paoloTheCool`	`no`
`22:20.07`	`paoloTheCool`	`but i do now`
`22:20.31`	`Tupone`	`your external IP?`
`22:20.52`	`paoloTheCool`	`66.32.75.235`
`22:22.19`	`Tupone`	`port is 5154? netstat says something about that port`
`22:22.23`	`CBG`	`Can't connect. You are running bzfs from the command line?`
`22:22.30`	`Tupone`	`or whatever the program is called`
`22:22.32`	`Tupone`	`on windows`
`22:22.39`	`paoloTheCool`	`yah`
`22:22.44`	`paoloTheCool`	`i open in comman prompt`
`22:22.55`	`CBG`	`Can you show us the command you use?`
`22:23.04`	`paoloTheCool`	`u mean the config file?`
`22:23.14`	`JeffM2501`	`heck just run it with bzfs.exe`
`22:23.23`	`JeffM2501`	`with no options it'll default to 5154`
`22:23.27`	`paoloTheCool`	`i open it`
`22:23.32`	`paoloTheCool`	`i just double click`
`22:23.37`	`JeffM2501`	`then that's default`
`22:23.40`	`CBG`	`paoloTheCool: just try "bzfs.exe -ddd"`
`22:23.48`	`paoloTheCool`	`?`
`22:24.06`	`Tupone`	`start->exec->cmd`
`22:24.23`	`Tupone`	`then -> bzfs.exe -d -d -d`
`22:24.28`	`paoloTheCool`	`i put -ddd in my config file`
`22:24.34`	`JeffM2501`	`no`
`22:24.35`	`paoloTheCool`	`i get the debuging`
`22:24.42`	`paoloTheCool`	`?`
`22:24.47`	`JeffM2501`	`just go to start menu, then to the run command, then type in CMD`
`22:24.49`	`JeffM2501`	`hit return`
`22:24.58`	`CBG`	`Please can you paste your config file at pastebin.ca ?`
`22:25.08`	`JeffM2501`	`then type in cd c:\program files\bzflag 2.0.8\`
`22:25.14`	`JeffM2501`	`if your running 2.0.8`
`22:25.21`	`JeffM2501`	`then type bzfs.exe -ddd`
`22:25.36`	`JeffM2501`	`but I don't think that's gonna do anything`
`22:25.52`	`JeffM2501`	`as your just not geting packets from outside`
`22:25.54`	`paoloTheCool`	`itjust has an error`
`22:26.06`	`paoloTheCool`	`wwait...copy config to that link?`
`22:26.06`	`JeffM2501`	`yeah the curl error is cus something is blocking you`
`22:26.16`	`JeffM2501`	`you don't need a config`
`22:26.28`	`paoloTheCool`	`i wuz talking to CBG`
`22:26.31`	`JeffM2501`	`but paste the config into bzflag.pastebin.ca and paste us the link`
`22:26.41`	`JeffM2501`	`so we can see it`
`22:28.14`	`paoloTheCool`	`http://pastebin.ca/311445`
`22:28.18`	`paoloTheCool`	`thats the link`
`22:29.09`	`paoloTheCool`	`if i have a DNS static IP, would that work or would only my public IP work?`
`22:29.29`	`CBG`	`The conf looks good.`
`22:29.50`	`JeffM2501`	`your public is the only IP that the outside can get to you by`
`22:29.57`	`paoloTheCool`	`i c`
`22:29.59`	`JeffM2501`	`the others are only for your LAN`
`22:30.06`	`paoloTheCool`	`kk`
`22:32.17`	`paoloTheCool`	`well....ig2g`
`22:32.28`	`paoloTheCool`	`thanks for all the help....much appreciated`
`22:32.40`	`paoloTheCool`	`i will figure this out someday....soon i hope.....`
`22:37.03`	`biggeruniverse`	`I missed diing?`
`22:37.12`	`biggeruniverse`	`that sounds funny`
`22:38.01`	`biggeruniverse`	`really, does IRC cost money where he comes from?`
`22:38.32`	`biggeruniverse`	`"ne1"? Eric Blair is rolling over in his grave`
`22:39.59`	`Bz_Win`	`hehe`
`22:41.01`	`biggeruniverse`	`CBG, I bet you're doing science homework`
`22:41.11`	`CBG`	`Uh, no.`
`22:41.22`	`CBG`	`I know what a neutron star is.`
`22:41.42`	`biggeruniverse`	`sorry, sience homework`
`22:42.20`	`biggeruniverse`	`You know, we could put a bomb on a neutron star and knock it out of orbit.`
`22:42.49`	`biggeruniverse`	`There's probably one within a billion years of here.`
`22:42.54`	`CBG`	`Of course...`
`22:43.09`	`CBG`	`There's one down my street! ... :\|`
`22:43.37`	`biggeruniverse`	`ok, but be careful, the same bomb could not the Earth out of orbit too`
`22:43.43`	`biggeruniverse`	`*knock`
`22:46.01`	`blast007`	`or we could all buy those chairs that spin, and everyone spin the same direction`
`22:46.07`	`*** join/#bzflag Tupone (n=Tupone@pdpc/supporter/active/Tupone)`
`22:46.07`	`*** mode/#bzflag [+v Tupone] by ChanServ`
`22:46.08`	`blast007`	`we'll throw off the Earth's orbit!`
`22:46.27`	`blast007`	`or the rotation at least`
`22:46.28`	`biggeruniverse`	`or at least steal it's momentum, so that it stopped`
`22:46.53`	`blast007`	`and I've always wanted to hook up big rocket engines to the far side of the moon`
`22:47.42`	`biggeruniverse`	`Have you ever heard the theory of the second moon?`
`22:48.21`	`biggeruniverse`	`isn't it interesting that early Earth had one circular land-mass on an otherwise ocean-covered planet?`
`22:48.29`	`biggeruniverse`	`hmmm`
`22:56.03`	`JeffM2501`	`an unstable body at L2?`
`22:57.30`	`biggeruniverse`	`unlikely`
`22:57.33`	`JeffM2501`	`very`
`22:58.21`	`biggeruniverse`	`Mars has a similar scenario in the Hellas basin`
`22:58.53`	`biggeruniverse`	`(The impact which caused it could have given rise to the volcanism on the opposite side)`
`22:59.05`	`JeffM2501`	`woudn't have had to be a moon`
`22:59.46`	`JeffM2501`	`could have been any object of suficcent mass`
`22:59.46`	`biggeruniverse`	`but that doesn't mean it couldn't be`
`22:59.53`	`JeffM2501`	`luna could have been spit off due to impact too`
`22:59.59`	`JeffM2501`	`could ahve been the same impact`
`23:00.36`	`biggeruniverse`	`that's why they call them theories`
`23:01.04`	`biggeruniverse`	`actually, that's the likely reason for the mare on the moon`
`23:01.19`	`biggeruniverse`	`an impact on the far side, while the Moon's core was still hot`
`23:01.48`	`biggeruniverse`	`big impacts cause (surprise) a resonance wave`
`23:02.04`	`JeffM2501`	`that's just where the moon's engines are`
`23:02.08`	`biggeruniverse`	`right`
`23:02.18`	`biggeruniverse`	`and the secret Russian moon-base`
`23:02.30`	`JeffM2501`	`russian, not likely`
`23:02.34`	`biggeruniverse`	`someone has to support the maintenance contract on the engines!`
`23:03.07`	`biggeruniverse`	`ok, maybe they out-sourced to Bangeladesh, but the call center is in Russia`
`23:03.18`	`*** join/#bzflag spldart (n=troublem@cpe-24-28-107-184.houston.res.rr.com)`
`23:03.34`	`JeffM2501`	`they are no on now, so they don't need service`
`23:04.12`	`spldart`	`Anyone heard of a tanker named 'purple robbie' ?`
`23:04.15`	`biggeruniverse`	`what if they need to be jump started? batteries don't last forever!`
`23:04.27`	`JeffM2501`	`you don't know that`
`23:04.28`	`biggeruniverse`	`is it a mega maya maya tanker?`
`23:04.47`	`spldart`	`Yes BU... it's a mega maya maya tanker :rolleyes:`
`23:05.01`	`biggeruniverse`	`\(^.^)/`
`23:05.09`	`spldart`	`He came on my server to draw people elsewhere near as I can tell.. just checking if anyone else has had this problem`
`23:05.25`	`biggeruniverse`	`does he charge admission?`
`23:05.45`	`spldart`	`Dude... Your leaving yourself W I D E open on that`
`23:05.47`	`spldart`	`heh`
`23:06.31`	`biggeruniverse`	`five dala!`
`23:06.47`	`spldart`	`W I D E R`
`23:07.08`	`spldart`	`I think I'll give hime a mega maya maya ban now`
`23:07.14`	`biggeruniverse`	`I'm out. Time to go study neutron stars`
`23:08.08`	`biggeruniverse`	`you can ban me too if it makes you feel better`
`23:08.19`	`biggeruniverse`	`I can take one for the team.`
`23:08.57`	`spldart`	`need your IP... how long a ban would you like`
`23:09.12`	`spldart`	`NM.. got it`
`23:09.53`	`spldart`	`Let's get yah for half a year :)`
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