| 00:04.30 | spldart | harumph... I tried it both way not that I have a debug version and one way chucked an erro and the other crashededed |
| 00:04.45 | spldart | but anywho... I'll read up on gdb usage :) |
| 00:04.57 | blast007 | spldart: you killed chanserv with GDB! |
| 00:05.24 | spldart | Yeppers |
| 00:05.29 | spldart | That's what they get |
| 00:05.34 | spldart | No --enable-debug |
| 00:05.36 | blast007 | :) |
| 00:05.54 | spldart | Now I'mma turn gdb on irs.gov |
| 00:06.01 | spldart | muwahahahaahhhaa |
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| 00:07.16 | spldart | Yah know? We haven't had a really good netsplit lately :) |
| 00:07.24 | tokimi | spldart: shush! |
| 00:07.36 | spldart | muwaaahahahhaha |
| 00:07.48 | tokimi | evil... |
| 00:08.01 | blast007 | ~evil |
| 00:08.02 | ibot | it has been said that evil is something Microsoft bought from Satan, according to http://bbspot.com/News/2000/4/MS_Buys_Evil.html |
| 00:08.03 | spldart | That's Dr Evil to you :) |
| 00:08.12 | blast007 | heh.. |
| 00:08.19 | tokimi | spldart: meh |
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| 00:24.23 | bz03 | Is it just me or is the fourms not working correctly? |
| 00:24.33 | blast007 | heh |
| 00:24.54 | blast007 | I'm updating something with the forum, so yes, it's not working right now ;) |
| 00:25.03 | bz03 | ok ty |
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| 00:28.24 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03bthansen * 10bzflag/ (include/bzfsAPI.h src/bzfs/bzfs.cxx): Add bz_eFlagTransferredEvent for plugins |
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| 00:29.20 | Thumper_ | Does anyone know if I have to bump protocol somewhere in HEAD if I add a field to the plugin playerRecord defined in bzfsAPI.cxx ? |
| 00:31.03 | blast007 | yeah, for that you have to bump |
| 00:31.30 | Thumper_ | it's adding bzid to the player record for plugins (doesn't change the client IIRC) |
| 00:31.36 | blast007 | (well, _should_ bump, or else plugins will crash) ;) |
| 00:31.52 | Thumper_ | ok ... any idea where I do that? |
| 00:31.53 | Thumper_ | :) |
| 00:31.59 | blast007 | um, hmm |
| 00:32.06 | blast007 | probably something in the api header |
| 00:32.24 | Thumper_ | ok I'll find it. thx |
| 00:32.34 | blast007 | and plugins would only crash if they were built with the code that didn't have the field, and run on the one that did |
| 00:32.39 | blast007 | (or the other way around) |
| 00:32.59 | Thumper_ | yeah crashing plugins is 'bad' |
| 00:33.01 | a_meteorite | lol, I added bzid long ago :P |
| 00:33.20 | a_meteorite | what exactly is the bz_eFlagTransferredEvent? when a flag is picked up? |
| 00:33.25 | Thumper_ | steal |
| 00:33.29 | a_meteorite | aw |
| 00:33.54 | Thumper_ | I still have to add the docs for that soon |
| 00:36.26 | shorty114 | ~seen |
| 00:36.43 | shorty114 | ~help seen |
| 00:36.44 | shorty114 | ~ping |
| 00:36.46 | ibot | pong |
| 00:36.46 | shorty114 | :\ |
| 00:37.01 | shorty114 | ibot, seen the_viper |
| 00:37.10 | ibot | the_viper <Viper@150.113.205.68.cfl.rr.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 852d 23h 24m 39s ago, saying: 'ty'. |
| 00:37.10 | shorty114 | ibot, ping |
| 00:37.11 | ibot | pong |
| 00:37.22 | shorty114 | hmm |
| 00:38.24 | blast007 | forum back up ;) |
| 00:43.02 | brlcad | Thumper_: there's a BZ_API_VERSION in include/bzfsAPI.h |
| 00:43.14 | Thumper_ | brlcad: thx |
| 00:43.17 | brlcad | doesn't seem like it's really getting used, but there it is |
| 00:43.58 | blast007 | probably doesn't matter so much right now |
| 00:44.45 | blast007 | but once we start doing 2.2 releases, that's when it should be used (and probably even during a 2.1 beta phase) |
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| 00:49.39 | Thumper_ | hmm JeffM2501 added all the _V1 plugin data classes... I wonder if he was planning to do something similar with the player record - and I should just create a new calls with the bz_BasePlayerRecord as it's base... ? |
| 00:49.43 | Thumper_ | that could get ugly fast though |
| 00:50.04 | blast007 | oh yeah...think he changed stuff in 2.1 |
| 00:50.05 | Thumper_ | s/calls/class/ |
| 00:50.52 | Thumper_ | I'm going to try to commit on HEAD only |
| 00:50.52 | Thumper_ | ;) |
| 00:50.55 | blast007 | you might have to ask jeff about the new stuff |
| 00:51.23 | blast007 | he was making it so that plugins compiled with earlier versions would work with newer copies of bzfs iirc |
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| 00:52.36 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03bthansen * 10bzflag/ (include/bzfsAPI.h src/bzfs/bzfs.cxx): Oops follow the _V1 class definition style for 2.1 |
| 01:00.34 | Thumper_ | blast007: yes that's what I remember - just not sure it really matters for 2.1 until it gets released |
| 01:00.45 | Thumper_ | I'm thinking it probably doesn't matter if I add to that in 2.1 now |
| 01:02.39 | blast007 | yeah |
| 01:02.53 | blast007 | I doubt anyone has made plugins for 2.1 yet |
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| 02:15.01 | spldart | hrm |
| 02:36.45 | biggeruniverse | hrm? |
| 02:41.04 | spldart | managed to build mach64 module and common dri stuff and got mach64 module goin but having issues with libxx stuff... Pooeyy |
| 02:41.21 | spldart | so still no accelleration |
| 03:00.49 | spldart | Ah! the lib files... and the symlinks... they are coming to get me ! aaaahahhhhhhh |
| 03:12.22 | spldart | If I have an appropriate module loaded for my card but continue to get mesa indirect how can I do some meaningful diagnoses? |
| 03:12.52 | spldart | bzflag to slow without some direct |
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| 03:33.45 | spldart | http://spldart.opencombat.net:92/glxinfo |
| 03:34.28 | CBG | ~blast007++ |
| 03:41.06 | spldart | oooOOOooo snap! tried starting bzflag with no direct but module loaded and CRASH! I had to press reset button... keyboard even went bye bye |
| 03:42.17 | blast007 | neat |
| 03:42.51 | spldart | Yeah... NM on help with getting glxstuff... I give up for today... maybe for good on this rig |
| 03:47.11 | spldart | uh oh |
| 03:47.16 | spldart | no reboot... kernel panic |
| 03:48.08 | biggeruniverse | hmm |
| 03:48.16 | biggeruniverse | boot single user |
| 03:48.53 | biggeruniverse | if you do get it back up, what does your last /var/log/Xorg log say? |
| 03:49.44 | spldart | if it doesn't come up this time I'll go recovery |
| 03:50.52 | spldart | Xfree |
| 03:50.57 | biggeruniverse | not xorg? |
| 03:51.03 | biggeruniverse | that's part of your issue |
| 03:51.15 | biggeruniverse | no! recovery is for losers! |
| 03:51.52 | biggeruniverse | didn't you install a fall-back kernel? |
| 03:52.24 | Flash | admiting you have a problem is the first step in recovery |
| 03:52.36 | biggeruniverse | well said |
| 03:52.44 | biggeruniverse | want to do some league play? |
| 03:52.53 | Flash | yup. you get straightened out? |
| 03:52.54 | biggeruniverse | I've got time for a game |
| 03:52.59 | biggeruniverse | I always was |
| 03:53.07 | biggeruniverse | I got added to the group, too |
| 03:53.07 | blast007 | Flash: and the last step is pretending you don't have a problem ;) |
| 03:53.24 | biggeruniverse | I thought it was pretending you had fixed the problem |
| 03:53.27 | Flash | denial is not just a river in egypt |
| 03:53.32 | blast007 | biggeruniverse: that too |
| 03:53.36 | spldart | I'm booted up fine now |
| 03:53.42 | spldart | not finding anything in logs |
| 03:53.56 | biggeruniverse | no EE or WW messages? |
| 03:54.01 | spldart | two kernels if for non minimal machines running tiny arse drives :) |
| 03:54.18 | biggeruniverse | do you load the drm module? |
| 03:54.31 | spldart | thought I did |
| 03:55.15 | biggeruniverse | where in the logs does it talk about DRI? there should be a reason why it decided to give up |
| 03:55.20 | spldart | the rig is OLD spare parts... seem to have better luck with old 2.4 kernel and x 4.3 |
| 03:56.14 | spldart | oh... well I was looking for a different problem after the bzflag lockup.. the reboot panic the kernel but it wasn't 3d stuff |
| 03:56.39 | spldart | I'm not screwing with 3d any more |
| 03:56.44 | spldart | not on this antique |
| 03:58.22 | spldart | hrm... I'mma lock it up again... gonna restart bz |
| 03:59.49 | spldart | sure enough |
| 03:59.52 | spldart | hehe |
| 04:01.40 | spldart | Yay White Stripe - Fell in love with a girl came up in que! |
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| 04:43.19 | biggeruniverse | how do we know you're the real ducktape? |
| 04:45.50 | a_meteorite | tell ducktape to go cry in a corner |
| 04:46.37 | biggeruniverse | ducktape: go cry in a corner |
| 04:47.26 | spldart | Hrm.. I'm good at getting that darn rabbit... but rarely keep a hold of the rabbit slot very long |
| 04:47.45 | spldart | But when I do I laugh maniacally |
| 04:47.52 | spldart | But I'm feeling much better now |
| 04:47.53 | biggeruniverse | what server? |
| 04:47.57 | spldart | o_0 |
| 04:48.09 | spldart | only rabbit near the top at this moment |
| 04:50.19 | Flash | I know this is a stretch, but does anyone here know how to troubleshoot Mac network hardware? |
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| 04:50.43 | biggeruniverse | drag it to the trash can? |
| 04:50.58 | spldart | oo snap yaaalll |
| 04:51.04 | spldart | vw in teh houze |
| 04:51.18 | Flash | that may be a (poor) resolution, but not troubleshooting |
| 04:51.20 | brlcad | its definitely sucking |
| 04:51.24 | a_meteorite | Flash: what sort of problems (maybe not be able to help)? |
| 04:51.37 | Flash | the network just stops working |
| 04:51.40 | a_meteorite | heh |
| 04:51.42 | Flash | a reboot fixes for a while |
| 04:52.08 | Flash | someone suggested ifconfig down/up; I don't know if that worked yet |
| 04:52.20 | a_meteorite | no idea then |
| 04:52.45 | a_meteorite | but I will say my PC network interface (built-in to mobo) went on the fritz and stopped getting an IP address |
| 04:52.57 | a_meteorite | soon as I got a PCI card it fixed itself |
| 04:53.07 | a_meteorite | never had a problem with my Mac's networking |
| 04:54.30 | spldart | that would be poor fix too..I'd imagine if down up fixed it it would only stay running the same amount of time as a reboot |
| 04:54.53 | Flash | true, but less intrusive than a reboot |
| 04:56.19 | spldart | true |
| 04:57.39 | biggeruniverse | do you see collisions or dropped packets? |
| 04:57.55 | biggeruniverse | if you're into a switch, try another port |
| 05:00.13 | Flash | first, it's not mine |
| 05:00.24 | Flash | second, the switch port has been switched |
| 05:00.33 | Flash | other machines on the switch don't experience a problem |
| 05:00.52 | biggeruniverse | switches can lose individual ports |
| 05:00.59 | biggeruniverse | that's common |
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| 05:03.08 | biggeruniverse | is the cup holder out? |
| 05:03.28 | Flash | not the cup-holder-equipped version |
| 05:03.31 | Flash | (I think) |
| 05:03.51 | brlcad | Flash: is it usually after a relatively high degree of network activity? lots of udp perhaps (gaming, file sharing, etc) |
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| 05:04.44 | Flash | unknown at this time |
| 05:05.32 | Flash | the problem, as stated, is "at some random point during the session" |
| 05:05.44 | brlcad | during "the session" |
| 05:06.42 | Flash | http://flash.pastebin.ca/323263 |
| 05:08.11 | brlcad | hmm.. |
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| 05:08.57 | Davy | hello |
| 05:09.02 | brlcad | actually a case where it sounds like the switch might not be at fault, could be simply a faulty network interface |
| 05:09.24 | Davy | is any1 here? |
| 05:09.33 | brlcad | Flash: but it is still worth making sure the switch/router is up to date firmware-wise just to rule that option out |
| 05:09.41 | Flash | you mean the NIC on the G4? |
| 05:09.43 | Davy | hello... |
| 05:09.52 | Flash | Davy: no one is here |
| 05:09.57 | Davy | no way |
| 05:09.59 | Davy | lol |
| 05:10.02 | brlcad | ~ask |
| 05:10.09 | ibot | rumour has it, ask is Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise, and on-topic. Don't ask if you can ask a question first. Don't ask if a person is there, just ask what you intended to ask them. Better questions more frequently yield better answers. We are all here voluntarily. See also ... |
| 05:10.13 | brlcad | Flash: yeah, the NIC |
| 05:10.29 | Flash | someone did suggest getting a $10 card to try that |
| 05:10.48 | brlcad | still, checking the router is trivial .. could be something with the MTU size of his G4 or his "average" use compared to the other machines |
| 05:11.27 | brlcad | yeah, that's probably the second thing I'd try |
| 05:12.12 | Flash | I'll pass it on, thanks |
| 05:12.14 | Davy | What is this? |
| 05:12.15 | brlcad | firmware, new nic, different switch, new (fresh) o/s install |
| 05:12.28 | brlcad | Davy: this is IRC |
| 05:12.32 | a_meteorite | it's called IRC |
| 05:12.32 | Davy | i know |
| 05:12.33 | a_meteorite | ~irc |
| 05:12.35 | ibot | well, irc is Internet Relay Chat or a massive time sink, or eternally the cyber land of the rising sun |
| 05:12.36 | brlcad | discussion channel for BZFlag |
| 05:12.39 | Davy | hey a met |
| 05:12.58 | Davy | ok |
| 05:13.15 | brlcad | what did you think this is? |
| 05:13.37 | Flash | ...a singles bar... without the booze... |
| 05:13.52 | brlcad | no booze?! |
| 05:13.53 | a_meteorite | hehe... |
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| 05:15.19 | Flash | was the the sound of brlcad falling out of his channel? too much to drink? |
| 05:15.30 | spldart | to little |
| 05:15.30 | L4m3r | ~brlcad++ |
| 05:15.39 | L4m3r | :) |
| 05:15.43 | brlcad | I wish :) |
| 05:19.12 | [NP]Tangent | wow |
| 05:19.38 | [NP]Tangent | in the comments for a conf file anti-spam sent me, I have determined that he believes there is a Lag (LG) flag |
| 05:22.18 | spldart | man |
| 05:22.20 | a_meteorite | it says so in the example config |
| 05:26.37 | brlcad | [NP]Tangent: there used to be a Lag flag |
| 05:27.18 | brlcad | didn't work so well for all players |
| 05:27.32 | brlcad | it was pulled sometime before 2.0 was released iirc |
| 05:28.10 | [NP]Tangent | a_meteorite, it doesn't say it in the example config _I_ have |
| 05:28.14 | [NP]Tangent | ah well |
| 05:28.21 | [NP]Tangent | I might try and make a plugin |
| 05:28.22 | a_meteorite | it is... :P |
| 05:28.36 | [NP]Tangent | sort of a race kinda thing. you get a point simply by touching an enemy flag. |
| 05:28.46 | [NP]Tangent | but there will, of course, be weapons. |
| 05:28.53 | [NP]Tangent | or a bunch of SW flags right near the flag. |
| 05:29.44 | [NP]Tangent | I won't be doing this because I'm particularly interested, I just want to see if I could do it with what little knowledge of programming I have |
| 05:30.10 | blast007 | a_meteorite: which version is that in? |
| 05:30.23 | a_meteorite | blast007: I can't remember, probably 2.0.2 era |
| 05:31.02 | [NP]Tangent | it wasn't in 2.0.4 |
| 05:31.22 | blast007 | yeah |
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| 05:31.44 | blast007 | it was removed in 2.0.6 |
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| 05:33.30 | [NP]Tangent | it wasn't in 2.0.4. |
| 05:33.49 | [NP]Tangent | not that I recall, anyways. |
| 05:33.57 | [NP]Tangent | all of my confs are just based off of 2.0.4 example conf. |
| 05:34.17 | blast007 | [NP]Tangent: I'm looking at the CVS revision history |
| 05:34.54 | [NP]Tangent | odd. |
| 05:34.56 | blast007 | http://bzflag.cvs.sourceforge.net/bzflag/bzflag/misc/bzfs.conf?view=markup&pathrev=v2_0_4 |
| 05:34.58 | [NP]Tangent | I could have SWORN. |
| 05:35.07 | [NP]Tangent | oh well. it's not a big deal, really. |
| 05:37.01 | [NP]Tangent | blast, you know much about coding plugins? |
| 05:37.11 | blast007 | I've done a little with it |
| 05:37.18 | [NP]Tangent | with the team score functions, is 1 red, 2 green, 3 blue, 4 purple? |
| 05:37.28 | [NP]Tangent | or does it start at 0? |
| 05:37.38 | blast007 | there is definitions for teams |
| 05:37.46 | [NP]Tangent | oh |
| 05:37.51 | [NP]Tangent | I better read a bit more then |
| 05:38.36 | blast007 | look for bz_eTeamType in ./include/bzfsAPI.h |
| 05:39.07 | biggeruniverse | this is a singles bar? |
| 05:39.12 | biggeruniverse | I'm gonna get in trouble |
| 05:39.37 | brlcad | date: 2004/03/22 05:43:48; author: trepan; state: Exp; lines: +1 -1 |
| 05:39.38 | brlcad | adding Lag Flag |
| 05:39.47 | brlcad | date: 2005/02/10 01:08:58; author: dtremenak; state: Exp; lines: +1 -1 |
| 05:39.48 | brlcad | remove last traces of Lag flag |
| 05:40.05 | brlcad | almost lasted a year |
| 05:40.42 | [NP]Tangent | blast, can I PM you? |
| 05:41.00 | blast007 | sure |
| 05:41.32 | brlcad | it was removed two days before 2.0 release |
| 05:46.22 | DTRemenak | mmm, lag |
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| 06:12.35 | biggeruniverse | lag is untolerable |
| 06:12.40 | biggeruniverse | absolutely |
| 06:19.06 | biggeruniverse | doesn't the ability for players to warp to other servers via a teleport roughly describe a multiverse? |
| 06:20.43 | biggeruniverse | (no jokes about a bigger multiverse) |
| 06:20.56 | DTRemenak | intolerable |
| 06:21.00 | DTRemenak | not untolerable |
| 06:21.40 | biggeruniverse | that's nonsane! |
| 06:22.35 | codergeek42 | that's instanding! |
| 06:23.33 | biggeruniverse | Ah, the beauty of English as she is spoke! |
| 06:24.00 | L4m3r | beauty of English? |
| 06:24.33 | L4m3r | that's like the dryness of water. Uh, no. |
| 06:24.50 | biggeruniverse | yes, because "Americanish" sounds funny. |
| 06:24.50 | L4m3r | :P |
| 06:25.16 | biggeruniverse | It's like what they speak in Canadia |
| 06:25.52 | L4m3r | English (especially US english) is like an old beater mercedes with a ton of bondo and crap bolted on |
| 06:26.29 | L4m3r | excessively complicated, no consistency, no grace, and utterly hideous :P |
| 06:26.46 | biggeruniverse | have you ever read politics and the English language? |
| 06:26.51 | L4m3r | nope |
| 06:26.56 | biggeruniverse | that's udderly hideous :P |
| 06:26.59 | L4m3r | heh |
| 06:27.00 | biggeruniverse | you should |
| 06:27.13 | biggeruniverse | brilliant essay |
| 06:27.20 | L4m3r | oh, and I forgot: it also has random donor parts from other cars that don't fit right :P |
| 06:27.32 | biggeruniverse | fix it again, Toni! |
| 06:27.47 | biggeruniverse | *Fix It Again, Toni! |
| 06:27.52 | L4m3r | English is probably the worst of the latin-based languages... and I use that loosely |
| 06:28.06 | biggeruniverse | you only *think* it's latin-based |
| 06:28.13 | biggeruniverse | it's technically Germanic |
| 06:28.22 | L4m3r | Spanish is much more logical, though it has quirks too |
| 06:28.25 | biggeruniverse | that's how sad it really is |
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| 06:28.43 | L4m3r | someone should invent a language that has concrete rules without exceptions |
| 06:28.49 | biggeruniverse | there is |
| 06:28.59 | L4m3r | ...and without noun gender. that drives me crazy! |
| 06:29.09 | L4m3r | the one good thing about English... it lacks gender :P |
| 06:30.19 | a_meteorite | yeah |
| 06:30.26 | a_meteorite | that's the thing I mess up most in spanish |
| 06:30.36 | a_meteorite | too many rules about gender |
| 06:31.21 | biggeruniverse | They were too close to the door to close it. |
| 06:31.53 | biggeruniverse | evil, evil homonyms! |
| 06:37.41 | biggeruniverse | You just never had to worry about it |
| 06:46.46 | Flash | I think we should all switch to Hawaiian |
| 06:47.14 | Flash | it's way more fun to speak |
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| 06:48.01 | Flash | 2 L4m3r's for the price of one! |
| 06:53.31 | biggeruniverse | how about Pidgin? |
| 06:54.32 | biggeruniverse | (I assume that's what you meant) |
| 06:56.07 | L4m3r | Flash: switching computers again |
| 06:56.17 | L4m3r_ | so leave us alone! |
| 06:56.21 | L4m3r | :P |
| 06:56.52 | biggeruniverse | that's freaky |
| 06:56.58 | L4m3r_ | what? |
| 06:57.18 | blast007 | it's a clone! |
| 06:57.20 | L4m3r | the only scary thing is seeing how long it takes for a message from one comp to show up on the other |
| 06:57.22 | blast007 | or maybe an evil twin |
| 06:57.37 | blast007 | but which one is the evil one? |
| 06:57.45 | L4m3r_ | ME! |
| 06:57.49 | L4m3r_ | ~kill L4m3r |
| 06:57.59 | ibot | ACTION shoots a super-inverse pseudophoton gun at L4m3r |
| 06:57.59 | blast007 | nnoooooo! |
| 06:58.15 | L4m3r | HUUUARRRRRGGGG |
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| 07:14.06 | [NP]Tangent | ~bzfrag Flash |
| 07:14.16 | ibot | ACTION destroys Flash with a guided missile |
| 07:14.27 | [NP]Tangent | and THAT is for ruining my good streak on SilverCat just now |
| 07:14.32 | biggeruniverse | he could have dodged |
| 07:15.00 | [NP]Tangent | heh |
| 07:15.02 | [NP]Tangent | it was funny |
| 07:15.06 | [NP]Tangent | I was doing so good |
| 07:15.10 | [NP]Tangent | UP UNTIL MY TEAM LEFT ME |
| 07:15.19 | [NP]Tangent | three greens vs me |
| 07:16.10 | biggeruniverse | maybe you smell bad |
| 07:18.23 | [NP]Tangent | no way man |
| 07:18.28 | [NP]Tangent | I showered earlier |
| 07:18.52 | biggeruniverse | Then I'm out of ideas |
| 07:22.10 | [NP]Tangent | maybe red team had enough fun |
| 07:22.12 | [NP]Tangent | I mean |
| 07:22.30 | [NP]Tangent | we DID kick butt |
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| 07:31.28 | rtyler | allo allo |
| 07:39.57 | blast007 | hi |
| 07:41.03 | biggeruniverse | I think that was a mating call |
| 07:41.40 | blast007 | heh |
| 07:45.29 | rtyler | definitely |
| 07:51.53 | [NP]Tangent | blast, after looking at API for a while, playing on silvercat, and then looking at fairCTF plugin again, I might be getting somewhere |
| 07:51.57 | [NP]Tangent | very very slowly |
| 07:51.59 | [NP]Tangent | but somewhere |
| 07:52.04 | blast007 | cool |
| 07:52.35 | [NP]Tangent | basically, I've got enough to init the plugin and/or unload |
| 07:52.43 | [NP]Tangent | now we have to make it DO something |
| 07:59.56 | [NP]Tangent | unfortunately, there is NOT an event for a player grabbing a flag, or so it appears |
| 08:01.58 | Flash | [NP]Tangent: let me know the next time you want to be humbled ;-) |
| 08:02.24 | [NP]Tangent | Flash, I was pwning you when it was not 2 on 1 |
| 08:02.36 | Flash | ok |
| 08:03.17 | [NP]Tangent | ;-) |
| 08:03.20 | [NP]Tangent | back to work with me, eh? |
| 08:03.32 | Flash | work? on Sunday? |
| 08:04.12 | [NP]Tangent | no |
| 08:04.14 | [NP]Tangent | I meant on this coding |
| 08:04.22 | [NP]Tangent | I'm trying to start learning how this plugin nonsense works |
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| 08:19.02 | bz03 | Hi everybody |
| 08:19.25 | bz03 | anyone knows how to setup server ? |
| 08:22.08 | blast007 | requirements for setting up a server: 1) patience.. ..... |
| 08:22.15 | mbfg | hah! |
| 08:22.25 | rtyler | 2) beer |
| 08:22.39 | PuMpErNiCkLe | 3) a map |
| 08:22.45 | PuMpErNiCkLe | 4) a compass |
| 08:22.45 | rtyler | 4) ??? |
| 08:22.49 | blast007 | 5) flux capacitor |
| 08:22.55 | rtyler | 6) tired jokes |
| 08:23.12 | blast007 | 7) polar bear |
| 08:23.16 | PuMpErNiCkLe | 8) profit |
| 08:23.25 | rtyler | 9) an actual server |
| 08:23.36 | blast007 | 10) see #1 |
| 08:23.46 | rtyler | OMG RECURSION |
| 08:23.51 | blast007 | :) |
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| 08:37.58 | [NP]Tangent | hm |
| 08:38.47 | [NP]Tangent | in a plugin, using bz_killPlayer(...), can I use BZ_ALLUSERS or a bz_eTeamType value? |
| 09:11.27 | [NP]Tangent | whoa |
| 09:11.32 | [NP]Tangent | I _might_ have made a plugin |
| 09:11.34 | [NP]Tangent | gotta test though |
| 09:17.33 | [NP]Tangent | if you guys don't ever talk to me again |
| 09:17.40 | [NP]Tangent | it's because it worked and I died out of shock |
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| 09:24.17 | bz78 | hallo ^^ |
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| 12:20.51 | short_circuit | woah |
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| 13:17.28 | boy007 | hi all |
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| 15:43.36 | spldart | 12 Yawn |
| 16:07.03 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03bthansen * 10bzflag/plugins/ (8 files in 2 dirs): Add theifControl plugin |
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| 16:17.07 | spldart | 12 Yawn |
| 16:17.19 | spldart | hehe |
| 16:17.50 | spldart | today feels like a heavy bzflag client play day |
| 16:21.10 | spldart | ... after a late, heavy, american language is a travesty, kinda breakfast :) |
| 16:21.51 | brlcad | at least BSG starts back up today |
| 16:23.38 | spldart | That's right!!! |
| 16:23.57 | spldart | Not my favorite series but has been entertaining at times :) |
| 16:24.40 | brlcad | yeah, it's got it's ups n downs, but the production quality on the whole is excellent |
| 16:24.52 | brlcad | along with Heroes tomorrow |
| 16:24.55 | spldart | True |
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| 16:35.45 | I_Died_Once | are there any new flags yet in 2.1 ? |
| 16:37.33 | brlcad | don't think so |
| 16:37.48 | brlcad | I have one 705 |
| 16:38.03 | brlcad | er, 70% completed, but have to motivate myself to finish it |
| 16:44.54 | DTRemenak | low gravity |
| 16:48.49 | spldart | I like low gravity... It's like Battlestar Galactica the original series when they got to earth and the colonial children could jump so high as to get into upper parts of trees and stuff. |
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| 17:06.38 | CBG | ~brad++ |
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| 17:22.00 | spldart | Woah... My server was kinda busy this morning |
| 17:26.15 | CBG | I (and some other server owners) have had players being autokicked "for moving too fast" on servers, recently. It's happened to myself on my 2.0.9 20071106-Linux server. I had been playing happily, died, pressed "i" to respawn and was _instantly_ kicked. Any possible reasons for this? |
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| 17:46.59 | blast007 | CBG: hmm, autopilot was also getting kicked when it spawned |
| 17:51.15 | Flash | is low gravity a super flag or a bad flag? |
| 17:56.03 | CBG | Flash: can be both. |
| 17:57.38 | *** mode/#bzflag [+v orchid] by ChanServ |
| 18:14.51 | delusional | ~seen sid6.7 |
| 18:15.26 | ibot | i haven't seen 'sid6.7', delusional |
| 18:15.26 | [NP]Tangent | anyone around that might be able to help me finish/debug/unscrewup a plugin? |
| 18:19.41 | CBG | ~seen sid |
| 18:19.49 | ibot | sid is currently on #openmoko (14h 35m 17s). Has said a total of 37 messages. Is idling for 11h 18m 34s, last said: 'DaveLib: Sound with what in particular? flash? another plugin of some type? do you have sound with other applications?'. |
| 18:20.57 | CBG | bleh |
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| 18:36.07 | spldart | Anyone who can admin bzflag2.norang rabbit chase there is a playing goin by Zach118 IIRC, I know I got the Zach part right and the number is close, is purposefully tk'ing till auto kicked then rejoining to do some more.. might want to ban him good :) |
| 18:36.48 | spldart | Don't know if he's still playing... He was probably getting tired of it and moved on to other servers.... If anyone can PM me an IP I'd like to ban him preemptively |
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| 19:46.56 | spldart | Does norang attract that many intentional tk'ers? |
| 19:48.38 | inchworm | not usually |
| 19:49.08 | inchworm | rabbit is rather a tk fest anyway |
| 19:49.40 | inchworm | but we did have some lamers on there |
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| 20:10.26 | spldart | heh |
| 20:10.51 | spldart | Had a couple of doozies today :-x |
| 20:12.26 | [NP]Tangent | what does it mean it can't find purple base |
| 20:12.31 | [NP]Tangent | PURPLE BASE IS DEFINED RIGHT THERE |
| 20:12.34 | [NP]Tangent | stupid bzfs |
| 20:13.11 | brlcad | ordering |
| 20:13.33 | [NP]Tangent | but this map has worked before! |
| 20:14.12 | spldart | lol |
| 20:15.03 | spldart | ordering requirments changed from ver to ver? |
| 20:15.12 | spldart | can't rule anything out |
| 20:15.17 | spldart | what world? |
| 20:15.45 | brlcad | sometimes they do, though they "shouldn't" |
| 20:16.46 | spldart | All part of a free projects idiosynchrisies. |
| 20:17.18 | brlcad | and fluid development |
| 20:17.50 | brlcad | you can be free and lock it down (e.g. any of the major distros, gcc, tcl/tk, etc) |
| 20:18.34 | [NP]Tangent | oh, now it works |
| 20:18.37 | spldart | poop s/idiosyncrasies/that other travesty |
| 20:18.39 | [NP]Tangent | weird |
| 20:19.57 | [NP]Tangent | alright |
| 20:20.02 | [NP]Tangent | new plugin is up |
| 20:20.06 | [NP]Tangent | nullbzflag.gotdns.com 5156 |
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| 20:33.00 | gamercolin | allo |
| 20:33.17 | inchworm | welcomen |
| 20:38.19 | [NP]Tangent | k, and I have posted it on bzbb |
| 20:39.01 | delusional | http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?p=100000#100000 number one hundred thousand |
| 20:39.14 | brlcad | wow |
| 20:40.57 | delusional | text of the message.. by davy jones: I'll try to get you one, mnid you, it won't be any good |
| 20:43.09 | spldart | Don't you just hate it when the rabbit is lagging enough that your shots go through and kill somebody else? growl |
| 20:43.59 | [NP]Tangent | spldart, wanna try this new plugin with me? |
| 20:45.47 | spldart | ? |
| 20:45.55 | spldart | perhaps for a minute |
| 20:46.04 | [NP]Tangent | grrr |
| 20:46.05 | [NP]Tangent | one sec |
| 20:46.08 | [NP]Tangent | my lag just spiked |
| 20:46.20 | spldart | I'm rebuilding my 2.0.9 code right now thanks to thumper... nice little patch :) |
| 20:58.14 | brlcad | mm.. sammiches |
| 21:00.24 | spldart | mayo mustard bologna on white |
| 21:01.01 | Flash | mmmmmmm. veggie burger.... |
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| 21:03.12 | brlcad | mayo.. bleh.. miracle whip! |
| 21:04.36 | Flash | nooo. miracle whip is way better than mayo |
| 21:04.54 | Flash | (how'd you know my veggie burger had miracle whip, anyway?) |
| 21:05.19 | brlcad | erm, spldart said mayo.. bleh to mayo :) |
| 21:05.34 | Flash | ok |
| 21:05.38 | brlcad | but my opinion of you did just go up for liking miracle whip :) |
| 21:05.51 | spldart | some stuff mayo better some stuff miracle whip better :) |
| 21:06.19 | spldart | veggie.. burger... that's an oxymoron or something isn't it... |
| 21:06.19 | Flash | spldart: what patch? should I rebuild my 2.0.9? |
| 21:06.45 | spldart | I was assisted in adding -tkannounce to my 2.0.9 code :) |
| 21:06.49 | Flash | perhaps... but you can buy them at Sams and they are always ready in the freezer when you want them |
| 21:06.52 | spldart | it's not part of the code normally |
| 21:07.10 | spldart | I'll let him PM you if he wants to have everyone know about it :) |
| 21:07.27 | spldart | It's in head code already though... was already working on my 2.1.10 server |
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| 21:08.41 | spldart | I know I know... my midde child is a vegagilr |
| 21:08.49 | spldart | veggiegirl |
| 21:09.02 | Flash | not me.... I prefer dead animal flesh, but these are ok for lunch |
| 21:09.08 | spldart | LOL |
| 21:09.13 | spldart | I love dead animal flesh |
| 21:09.22 | spldart | so does my Char-Broil outside |
| 21:09.36 | Flash | we had lamb for Christmas dinner.... yummalicious |
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| 21:49.52 | [NP]Tangent | so spldart |
| 21:49.56 | [NP]Tangent | nice plugin? |
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| 22:17.05 | [NP]Tangent | hey, I'm thinking with my plugin, it might be a good idea to have a minimum time of 60 seconds between wins against one team |
| 22:27.26 | spldart | back. |
| 22:27.30 | spldart | was cleaning house |
| 22:27.34 | spldart | neat plugin |
| 22:28.30 | spldart | hrm |
| 22:34.59 | spldart | what's screenshot key? |
| 22:36.57 | CBG | F5 ? |
| 22:37.19 | spldart | yeah... you know... I was doin it but chat box was off so I didn't see it :slaps self upside head: |
| 22:37.44 | spldart | Yep... I got 18 screenshots of the same thing |
| 22:37.53 | CBG | [Np]Tangent, and how would it work? The strong team can't grab the enemie's flag in that time? Or they just can't cap it? Or what? |
| 22:39.21 | spldart | bzflag.org seems a might slow :( |
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| 22:57.32 | [NP]Tangent | alright, so now the plugin has a wait time of 60 seconds between same-team losses, and it won't count a win into the score if the teams are not even. |
| 23:00.12 | [NP]Tangent | C++ isn't so bad after all |
| 23:07.39 | orchid | bz's last release was May 13, 2006? |
| 23:09.01 | CBG | [NP]Tangent: so the strong team can still take the enemie's flag in that 60 seconds? Then what? Wait with it at their base and cap right after the 60 sec? |
| 23:09.02 | brad | yeah.. 2.0.8 |
| 23:10.41 | CBG | ~5/7 |
| 23:10.50 | ibot | 0.714285714286 |
| 23:12.09 | [NP]Tangent | no... |
| 23:12.20 | [NP]Tangent | anyone can always get a flag, so long as its there |
| 23:12.41 | [NP]Tangent | but for it to actually count towards the score, it has to be taken by an equal or weaker team |
| 23:13.02 | [NP]Tangent | and you clearly don't understand the plugin... you take the flag and that's it. point. |
| 23:13.44 | CBG | ah, ok. |
| 23:13.55 | CBG | I didn't realise it was tied to that.. :) |
| 23:14.03 | CBG | Thought it was separate. |
| 23:15.34 | [NP]Tangent | :) |
| 23:15.36 | [NP]Tangent | no worries |
| 23:18.56 | CBG | Nice plugin too, btw. I like the concept. :) |
| 23:19.32 | CBG | Could involve maps where the base is really complex to get into, with lots of little places for defenders to hide in there... |
| 23:19.52 | CBG | Could you also make it so that one team is defending and one is attacking? |
| 23:21.29 | [NP]Tangent | I could do that |
| 23:21.33 | [NP]Tangent | probably |
| 23:22.06 | [NP]Tangent | ie, one flag is auto-dropped if an enemy takes it, one is not |
| 23:22.13 | [NP]Tangent | yeah |
| 23:22.15 | [NP]Tangent | would be cool |
| 23:22.26 | [NP]Tangent | right now, the plugin is up on a rotation where both maps are mazes with no radar |
| 23:26.49 | CBG | cool. I'd check them out if I didn't have to do my whole physics coursework by tomorrow... :/ |
| 23:27.01 | CBG | It's 11:26, probably about half way through... |
| 23:27.47 | [NP]Tangent | sucks |
| 23:28.21 | CBG | Heh, we started it like 2 months ago... |
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| 23:29.05 | CBG | Teacher was silly (imho) to not set any unofficial deadlines between the start and the final deadline. |
| 23:29.43 | CBG | I'd have liked to have handed in some drafts and such... but with no motivation to do so... it gets left until the night/morning before. |
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| 23:44.35 | I_Died_Once | Planet MoFo - now running "The Passion of the Free For All" on BZFlag 2.1 |
| 23:46.00 | A_Heart_Attack | awsome |
| 23:50.37 | a_meteorite | bzfx will be coming soon ;) |
| 23:50.46 | a_meteorite | 2.1 is already there, I just gotta port some plugins |