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| 00:19.32 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03bthansen 07v2_0branch * 10bzflag/plugins/ (5 files in 5 dirs): Oops Makefile.in files aren't supposed to be under source control |
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| 01:46.50 | Tedius | anyone here? |
| 01:47.31 | blast007 | probably |
| 01:47.34 | blast007 | have a question? |
| 01:47.41 | Tedius | i made my first map |
| 01:47.44 | blast007 | (besides the first one) ;) |
| 01:47.46 | blast007 | k |
| 01:47.50 | Tedius | heh |
| 01:48.17 | Tedius | does anyone want to play it and criticize a n00b? |
| 01:48.40 | Tedius | i guess i could post it at the forums.... |
| 01:49.04 | blast007 | is it running somewhere? |
| 01:49.09 | Tedius | no |
| 01:49.12 | blast007 | ah |
| 01:49.14 | Tedius | haven't got that far yet |
| 01:49.17 | blast007 | k |
| 01:49.26 | blast007 | forums is probably a good idea then |
| 01:49.36 | blast007 | someone may even host it for you if they like it |
| 01:49.52 | Tedius | ooh, thats hopeful thinking |
| 01:49.55 | Tedius | :) |
| 01:49.57 | blast007 | :) |
| 01:50.15 | Tedius | raises a good question though.. |
| 01:50.44 | Tedius | if i host a server at my school, is the IT department going to notice it? |
| 01:50.58 | blast007 | likely |
| 01:51.05 | Tedius | It's not that much traffic, though is it?? |
| 01:51.11 | blast007 | oh, you'd be surprised |
| 01:51.25 | a_meteorite | it depends if you have 2-3 players or 20-30 :) |
| 01:51.26 | blast007 | most of the real servers are running at a data center or ISP |
| 01:52.04 | blast007 | they'll notice ;) |
| 01:52.15 | Tedius | ya, i thought so |
| 01:52.28 | blast007 | also, depending on how their network is set up, you likely can't even run a server there |
| 01:52.36 | Tedius | i do |
| 01:52.47 | blast007 | k :) |
| 01:52.53 | Tedius | we get 1000 hits a day or so |
| 01:53.13 | Tedius | (checking to make sure facts are right) |
| 01:53.52 | blast007 | 4 to 6 players was all my 256kbps upstream could handle, so that'll probably give you an idea of the bandwidth consumption |
| 01:54.06 | blast007 | and it's an exponential calculation |
| 01:55.20 | Tedius | hmm, its probably not worth losing a job over or anything |
| 01:56.17 | Tedius | doubt if my boss would consider it a worthwhile use of university resources |
| 01:56.38 | blast007 | hehe |
| 01:57.42 | Gnurdux | A-Delusion, a_meteorite doesn't want to open source a plugin just because he feels that mofo will "steal" it and not give him credit. he says if i ask you this you'll "lie to my face" |
| 01:57.57 | blast007 | Gnurdux: wrong channel? |
| 01:58.05 | Gnurdux | probably |
| 01:58.15 | Gnurdux | wrong channel to use, not wrong channel of intention |
| 01:58.20 | a_meteorite | well, he will lie to your face... |
| 01:58.26 | a_meteorite | he's done it to me a few times... |
| 01:58.29 | Gnurdux | lets not start this here |
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| 02:47.12 | A-Delusion | double you tee eff |
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| 04:00.31 | blast007 | :) |
| 04:02.45 | *** topic/#bzflag by brlcad -> http://BZFlag.org || http://cia.navi.cx/stats/project/BZFlag || http://BZFlag.org/wiki/GettingHelp || Paste to http://bzflag.pastebin.ca || http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/9453 || http://ohloh.net/projects/189 || Happy birthday, Tupone! |
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| 04:09.49 | Guu | Patch #1619817: Remove /ghost; Resolution: Rejected; Date Submitted: 2006-12-20 17:00; Submitted By: Flash; Assigned To: Sean Morrison; Priority: 3; Status: Open |
| 04:11.13 | brlcad | hm |
| 04:12.04 | a_meteorite | I thought that was a TODO? |
| 04:12.48 | Flash | it was, so I did it ;-) |
| 04:14.17 | brlcad | Flash: the fact that it's open when it can now be closed since it's broken up should be a good sign, but thanks for the reminder ;) |
| 04:16.43 | Flash | the last patch file was attached to the original patch. I'm confused that it says "open" and "rejected" |
| 04:17.51 | Flash | or did you apply it and I was asleep? |
| 04:17.53 | brlcad | the original patch file was rejected for the reason it showed |
| 04:18.00 | Flash | right, and I replaced it |
| 04:18.07 | brlcad | which is why it's still open :) |
| 04:18.15 | Flash | oh. |
| 04:18.33 | brlcad | i worked on the first one, but hadn't got to the second |
| 04:19.04 | brlcad | it could be changed to "pending" now, if that'd make you happy .. but it's just a label .. the fact that it's not closed is what more matters |
| 04:19.15 | Flash | no, I'm ok |
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| 16:25.00 | A-Delusion | I've got an excellent looking UV-mapped object, the texture doesn't "flicker", what it does is completely disappear when viewed from a distance. I've tried setting maxLOD to various numbers, which seems to have no effect. Can anyone give me some hints on how to set maxLOD so objects don't disappear when veiwed from far away? |
| 16:26.30 | donny_baker | A-D: think of it as a klingon cloaking mechenism ;) |
| 16:27.34 | A-Delusion | The only map I can find with examples of how to do this is trepan's drawinfo.. the one with the moving gears... and it has other concepts i'm unfamiliar with, such as tristrips, etc. |
| 16:33.42 | A-Delusion | trepan's code looks like this lod # 0 |
| 16:37.08 | A-Delusion | all I know is that making the dimensions of the .png power-of-2 makes things easier |
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| 17:51.53 | master_tux | hey |
| 17:52.21 | brlcad | unhey |
| 17:58.07 | Erroneous | hay is for horses |
| 17:58.21 | Erroneous | unhay is for unhorses? |
| 18:00.19 | brlcad | undoubtedly |
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| 18:23.40 | Tupone | brlcad: thanks :) |
| 18:24.50 | donny_baker | brlcad: ping |
| 18:25.41 | *** topic/#bzflag by Tupone -> http://BZFlag.org || http://cia.navi.cx/stats/project/BZFlag || http://BZFlag.org/wiki/GettingHelp || Paste to http://bzflag.pastebin.ca || http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/9453 || http://ohloh.net/projects/189 |
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| 18:33.18 | brlcad | donny_baker: pong |
| 18:33.20 | brlcad | Tupone: :) |
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| 18:34.53 | Tupone | brlcad: day is gone |
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| 18:57.21 | ts | JeffM2501: Looks like with much screenshots we get kind of the old problems again |
| 18:57.38 | JeffM2501 | ok then w'ell have to solve it |
| 18:57.42 | ts | Tank is going invisible then reappearing |
| 18:59.03 | JeffM2501 | ok |
| 18:59.41 | JeffM2501 | best to just fix the ray test then |
| 19:00.15 | ts | I don't know how the physics code works :( |
| 19:00.22 | JeffM2501 | ok |
| 19:00.26 | JeffM2501 | I didn't mean that you had to fix it |
| 19:01.09 | JeffM2501 | put it in the bugs list and go on to whatever else you want. |
| 19:01.18 | ts | Didn't understand it like this, it's just I'm sad I can't help |
| 19:01.34 | JeffM2501 | it's unreasonable to assume you can do everything |
| 19:01.44 | JeffM2501 | working on the project is suposed to be fun don't fret yourself |
| 19:01.50 | JeffM2501 | reporting it is helping |
| 19:02.03 | JeffM2501 | and it sounds like it's still better then before, so we are making progress |
| 19:12.22 | Erroneous | I swear these templates will make me crazy :S |
| 19:12.52 | JeffM2501 | the VMM? |
| 19:12.59 | Erroneous | no, STL templates |
| 19:13.02 | JeffM2501 | ahh |
| 19:13.10 | JeffM2501 | fun with vista :) |
| 19:13.12 | Erroneous | trying to get our specialized iterators to work in vc8 |
| 19:13.23 | Erroneous | think I got it |
| 19:13.37 | JeffM2501 | Gary does love his iterators :) |
| 19:13.44 | Erroneous | debugging these things is "fun" though |
| 19:13.57 | Erroneous | the final error messages always end up in xutility or somewhere |
| 19:14.10 | Erroneous | they do make for nice readable code though :) |
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| 19:43.07 | Erroneous | mmm, multiple inheritance |
| 19:48.15 | brlcad | supposed to be fun |
| 19:48.30 | brlcad | mmmulti-pass |
| 20:05.49 | A-Delusion | my truck is ready but my ride to go get it is not. |
| 20:41.52 | JeffM2501 | wonder how long the session timeout on bzbb is |
| 20:54.24 | Tupone | good to know, thanks |
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| 21:06.51 | choSen1 | hey guys im really confused about something |
| 21:07.00 | choSen1 | umm...i registered |
| 21:07.18 | choSen1 | but i still can't play viper.pimpi |
| 21:08.01 | JeffM2501 | you put your fourm password in the game field for "password" ? |
| 21:10.45 | choSen1 | i did ...it said globin login apporved |
| 21:10.51 | choSen1 | then what do i do? |
| 21:10.56 | JeffM2501 | that's all you have to do |
| 21:11.04 | JeffM2501 | the rest is up to the server |
| 21:11.18 | choSen1 | but i can't play after that |
| 21:11.25 | JeffM2501 | I've heard of viper having problems finishing the login |
| 21:11.28 | choSen1 | oo |
| 21:11.31 | choSen1 | damn |
| 21:11.33 | JeffM2501 | play on another server |
| 21:11.35 | JeffM2501 | there are 200 |
| 21:11.38 | choSen1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:11.43 | choSen1 | tru |
| 21:11.45 | choSen1 | thanks |
| 21:11.47 | JeffM2501 | contact the server owner and ask them to fix it |
| 21:11.52 | choSen1 | kk |
| 21:11.58 | donny_baker | they are also full ATM |
| 21:12.14 | donny_baker | so that could be it also |
| 21:12.30 | choSen1 | oo |
| 21:12.50 | donny_baker | they allow 20 players at one time... and that is how many they have |
| 21:13.04 | choSen1 | even if they had less..they don't let me play |
| 21:13.26 | JeffM2501 | do you get a + next to your name when you join? |
| 21:16.49 | choSen1 | nope |
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| 21:24.59 | blast007 | JeffM2501: I think viper has some locally registered names yet |
| 21:25.06 | blast007 | I get a - when I go there ;) |
| 21:25.25 | JeffM2501 | or theyhave some proxy issue with the list |
| 21:25.27 | JeffM2501 | I dunno |
| 21:25.31 | JeffM2501 | but many have problems it seems |
| 21:25.37 | blast007 | nah, it works when I use another name |
| 21:25.42 | blast007 | been that way for ages |
| 21:25.43 | JeffM2501 | ahh |
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| 21:51.51 | brad | when a plugin calls the chat event.... is there a way of telling if the message actually gets seen by people, or if they are muted? |
| 21:52.12 | JeffM2501 | check the perm on the player |
| 21:53.05 | brad | ok |
| 21:56.38 | JeffM2501 | or is it a bit? |
| 21:56.50 | JeffM2501 | I can check, we may mutes before |
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| 22:00.08 | JeffM2501 | you checking the raw or the filtered event? |
| 22:00.22 | JeffM2501 | raw is before, filtered is after |
| 22:00.34 | JeffM2501 | if they don't have the talk perm we exit before the filtered |
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| 22:02.00 | JeffM2501 | and mute revokes the talk perm, so that would do it for ya |
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| 22:07.51 | [BZM]-Leader | yo |
| 22:08.04 | [BZM]-Leader | yo |
| 22:09.08 | JeffM2501 | ? |
| 22:10.08 | JeffM2501 | right then..... |
| 22:12.49 | Birdie | i love those conversations in #bzflag, so informative |
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| 22:35.45 | brad | sry Jeff, went afk, I'm checking the raw chat event |
| 22:41.46 | JeffM2501 | raw is before |
| 22:41.49 | JeffM2501 | you want the filtered one |
| 22:41.56 | JeffM2501 | that will be right before it's actualy sent |
| 22:42.30 | blast007 | suppose it depends what he's doing with the chat |
| 22:42.37 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 22:42.41 | JeffM2501 | that's why there are 2 :) |
| 22:42.42 | blast007 | if he wants to process muted chat different, use the raw one |
| 22:42.54 | JeffM2501 | the raw was mostly for your own chat filter |
| 22:43.06 | JeffM2501 | if you want to check the mute status in raw, just check the perm |
| 22:44.13 | brad | yeah, I actually want to see muted chat |
| 22:44.31 | brad | but make sute it says they're muted :P |
| 22:44.41 | brad | sute=sure |
| 22:46.17 | brad | can I request for some more info be put into bz_PlayerRecord() ? |
| 22:46.23 | brad | shall I post on forums? |
| 22:47.16 | JeffM2501 | like what? |
| 22:47.42 | JeffM2501 | for 2.0.x that would require a version bump, and break old plugins |
| 22:47.51 | JeffM2501 | so I've jsut been adding functions |
| 22:48.15 | brad | ah |
| 22:48.23 | JeffM2501 | but whatcha need? |
| 22:48.26 | brad | well... jitterwarn and packet loss would be nice |
| 22:48.45 | brad | not important, just nice to have ;) |
| 22:48.49 | JeffM2501 | I don't mind if we have both a C and C++ type api for em |
| 22:49.05 | brad | s/jitterwarn/jitter/ |
| 22:49.20 | JeffM2501 | wonder if the server keeps that stuff |
| 22:49.27 | JeffM2501 | do I expose lag right now? |
| 22:49.31 | brad | yes |
| 23:00.11 | JeffM2501 | ok, I got something for ya |
| 23:00.25 | JeffM2501 | 3 new functions in 2.0.x, and the same functions and them added to the record in 2.1 |
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| 23:00.57 | JeffM2501 | tho it dosn't look like 2.0.x tacks packetloss |
| 23:01.03 | brad | cool, thanks Jeff |
| 23:01.11 | brad | ~JeffM2501++ |
| 23:01.17 | brad | I'll try 'em out |
| 23:01.34 | JeffM2501 | what command in 2.0.x shows the packetloss? |
| 23:01.50 | brad | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:02.05 | brad | lagstats shows lag, jitter, packet loss |
| 23:03.21 | JeffM2501 | ahh it's just not exposed |
| 23:05.27 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/include/bzfsAPI.h: add API exposure for lag, jitter, and packetloss |
| 23:05.45 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/bzfsAPI.cxx: add API exposure for lag, jitter, and packetloss |
| 23:06.38 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 07v2_0branch * 10bzflag/include/ (LagInfo.h bzfsAPI.h): add API exposure for lag, jitter, and packetloss |
| 23:06.56 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 07v2_0branch * 10bzflag/src/ (bzfs/bzfsAPI.cxx game/LagInfo.cxx): add API exposure for lag, jitter, and packetloss |
| 23:07.41 | JeffM2501 | there ya go |
| 23:07.49 | JeffM2501 | I'll doc the functions in a second |
| 23:10.03 | brad | ~JeffM2501++ |
| 23:10.11 | brad | ~karma JeffM2501 |
| 23:10.11 | ibot | jeffm2501 has karma of 358 |
| 23:12.09 | JeffM2501 | ok they are documented as well |
| 23:16.07 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/include/bzfsAPI.h: init the new record fields |
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