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| 00:00.28 | Erroneous | someone needs to tell that fellow not to just take some random guy-on-the-internet's word at face value |
| 00:00.30 | JeffM2501 | I am not? |
| 00:01.01 | brlcad | no no.. go back to dead, you are |
| 00:01.17 | Erroneous | dead but speaking, does that make him undead? |
| 00:01.22 | brlcad | pretty much |
| 00:01.29 | brlcad | how else could he code so much |
| 00:01.29 | Erroneous | fun |
| 00:01.29 | JeffM2501 | brainsSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS! |
| 00:01.42 | spldart | m0re braaaiiiinsssssssss |
| 00:01.51 | Erroneous | brains: it's what's for dinner! |
| 00:01.54 | brlcad | mm.. where is Noodleman where you need 'em |
| 00:02.13 | spldart | brains... the other, other white meat pasta dish |
| 00:02.38 | JeffM2501 | silver is for lyanthrocopes |
| 00:03.27 | spldart | any old headshot if for the undead |
| 00:03.45 | spldart | uh oh! got a twitcher over here |
| 00:04.27 | JeffM2501 | that's why it's alway good to have shotgun skills, when the undead come a-callin |
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| 00:05.42 | me1 | Jeff, could you help me with what i posted on the forums? |
| 00:05.55 | me1 | The low FPS issue? |
| 00:05.59 | JeffM2501 | what about it? |
| 00:06.09 | JeffM2501 | you have a 9200? |
| 00:06.13 | me1 | yea |
| 00:06.15 | JeffM2501 | what drivers you using? |
| 00:06.23 | JeffM2501 | the ones from MS? |
| 00:06.54 | me1 | I think so |
| 00:06.58 | JeffM2501 | then that's your problem |
| 00:07.03 | JeffM2501 | get the ones from ATI |
| 00:07.07 | me1 | ok |
| 00:07.13 | spldart | heh |
| 00:08.00 | spldart | on a side note ati's 8.28.8 linux driver for the 9200 I have in my work machine doesn't work for POOP :-( |
| 00:08.42 | Erroneous | hmm, I still need to test ati's new vista drivers |
| 00:09.18 | spldart | broken links... broken drivers... all things being equal = ms |
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| 00:26.52 | Davy | @ DEV's What version of libtool does 2.11.x use? |
| 00:27.05 | Davy | as i need to downgrade from 1.5.22 to what version? |
| 00:27.46 | spldart | hehe |
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| 00:29.12 | spldart | I built 2.1.11 with libtool 1.5.6 |
| 00:29.14 | brlcad | Davy_Jones: 1.5.22 should work |
| 00:29.25 | Davy_Jones | Hmmm |
| 00:29.30 | brlcad | what's autogen saying? |
| 00:29.35 | spldart | but I had other probs |
| 00:29.40 | Davy_Jones | autogen works correctly |
| 00:29.42 | Davy_Jones | is the make |
| 00:30.02 | brlcad | can you be more specific? |
| 00:30.20 | Davy_Jones | the make has problems, see http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=10137 |
| 00:30.38 | Davy_Jones | any ideas? |
| 00:31.29 | Davy_Jones | I already configured and autogen.sh it, just now the make has a problem with libtool |
| 00:31.39 | brlcad | hrm that's odd |
| 00:31.48 | brlcad | you mean you ran autogen.sh and THEN configured it? |
| 00:31.53 | Davy_Jones | no |
| 00:32.00 | brlcad | then the order is wrong ;) |
| 00:32.14 | Davy_Jones | so i configure autogen then make? |
| 00:32.24 | brlcad | you run ./autogen.sh first |
| 00:32.25 | spldart | autogen configure make |
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| 00:32.38 | brlcad | add -V for good measure: ./autogen.sh -V |
| 00:32.40 | Davy_Jones | let me try it real quick |
| 00:32.50 | Davy_Jones | and what does that do? |
| 00:32.51 | brlcad | and make sure it completes successfully |
| 00:32.52 | Davy_Jones | the -v |
| 00:32.52 | spldart | is that verbose? |
| 00:32.57 | brlcad | verbose |
| 00:33.02 | Davy_Jones | and it does... |
| 00:33.23 | brlcad | it prepares the build system for configuration |
| 00:33.39 | Davy_Jones | aye |
| 00:33.41 | brlcad | which includes (re)generating a proper configure script as well as the Makefile.in files |
| 00:33.47 | Davy_Jones | i'll try i |
| 00:34.20 | brlcad | configure then generates the Makefiles from the Makefile.in files as well as the libtool script and a few other details |
| 00:34.42 | brlcad | so, it's ./autogen.sh followed by ./configure followed by make |
| 00:35.05 | brlcad | since you already have a build, i'd suggest running "make clean" before running "make" just to have it start over |
| 00:36.06 | Davy_Jones | hmmm |
| 00:36.52 | Davy_Jones | Well, it sure is taking it's time now |
| 00:37.50 | Davy_Jones | How long does it usually take? |
| 00:39.00 | spldart | the whole thing or just autogen? |
| 00:39.08 | Davy_Jones | autogen |
| 00:39.16 | brlcad | takes as long as it needs |
| 00:39.17 | spldart | several minutes on a slow machine... |
| 00:39.23 | Davy_Jones | it's been stuck on "Automatically preparing build ... autoreconf -I m4 -i -f" |
| 00:39.28 | Davy_Jones | for about 5 mins |
| 00:39.34 | brlcad | you're good, just wait ;) |
| 00:40.14 | Davy_Jones | I'm an impatient sea monster :P |
| 00:40.31 | spldart | eww... then make really test your resove |
| 00:40.37 | spldart | resolve |
| 00:40.54 | Davy_Jones | hehe |
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| 00:41.38 | Davy_Jones | it also said this "Found extra aclocal search directory: m4" |
| 00:41.47 | Davy_Jones | and it deleted it, etc. |
| 00:42.21 | Davy_Jones | this is my first compile. Ever. So i don't have much experience in terminal...yet |
| 00:42.23 | brlcad | it didn't delete m4, it deleted other stuff though |
| 00:42.40 | Davy_Jones | it didn't copy right |
| 00:42.47 | brlcad | how so? |
| 00:42.59 | brlcad | ~pastebin |
| 00:43.09 | ibot | methinks pastebin is a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.ca, or http://channels.debian.net/paste, or http://rafb.net/paste/ |
| 00:43.09 | Davy_Jones | no, copy and paste in IRC |
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| 00:43.09 | Davy_Jones | not in terminal :P |
| 00:43.09 | Davy_Jones | Found extra aclocal search directory: m4 |
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| 00:43.29 | Davy_Jones | oh |
| 00:43.50 | Davy_Jones | well im not on a IRC client, none have worked for me so far |
| 00:45.05 | brlcad | er, you're using an irc client now |
| 00:45.17 | brlcad | albeit a web-based one |
| 00:45.36 | brlcad | you might have firewall issues, the web-based one gets around firewalls |
| 00:49.13 | Davy_Jones | nah, no firewall issues, just i can't find a client i like so far |
| 00:52.28 | Davy_Jones | im on the make clean in the compliling |
| 00:52.50 | Davy_Jones | now im on the make |
| 00:53.13 | Davy_Jones | same error as that topic i linked to earlier |
| 00:53.13 | Davy_Jones | dang |
| 00:53.22 | Davy_Jones | c you later |
| 00:54.57 | spldart | :( |
| 00:57.10 | brlcad | hm |
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| 00:59.48 | spldart | I was wondering about order myself |
| 01:00.09 | spldart | And I are teh n00b |
| 01:00.13 | spldart | ~spldart |
| 01:00.21 | ibot | i heard spldart is a n00b |
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| 03:44.09 | short_circuit | yikes... Time for some ivermectin or pamoate |
| 03:46.38 | short_circuit | :-) |
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| 03:52.05 | TylerM | hi all |
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| 04:02.20 | a_meteorite | Mr. Nibbles is cooler :D |
| 04:03.48 | mbfg | the cow would disagree with you, i'm sure |
| 04:08.25 | brlcad | heh |
| 04:12.09 | inchworm | ? |
| 04:12.16 | inchworm | dunno no wiggly |
| 04:13.37 | Theme97 | Mr. Nibbles! |
| 04:53.57 | blast007 | anyone a norang admin? got a wall walker on louman's metropolis |
| 04:57.30 | blast007 | he just left |
| 04:57.36 | brad | :( |
| 04:57.53 | blast007 | that map really needs some inside points |
| 04:58.21 | brad | buildings are hollow? |
| 05:01.18 | blast007 | so it seems |
| 05:01.21 | blast007 | people can shoot out |
| 05:31.09 | [NP]Tangent | blast007, what exactly do inside and outside points do? |
| 05:38.20 | blast007 | brad: he's back |
| 05:38.37 | blast007 | it's funny, cuz he's calling me a cheater |
| 05:38.41 | blast007 | says I have an aimbot |
| 05:39.47 | a_meteorite | lol |
| 05:43.03 | a_meteorite | tis banned now |
| 06:07.37 | a_meteorite | I guess now I know I am a geek... |
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| 07:01.37 | brlcad | wow, I like this guy's /. comment .. can be applied to most religion wars |
| 07:01.39 | brlcad | "Linux is like a religion for people who really ought to be putting their intelligence to better use than a religion. Stop wasting time thinking of ways to get your neighbours to accept Linux as their personal saviour from malware, and start teaching yourself C++ and get to work improving things." |
| 07:02.55 | purple_cow | C++ is a very poor way to improve things ;) |
| 07:03.02 | brlcad | heh |
| 07:04.50 | L4m3r | I don't push for linux... |
| 07:05.12 | L4m3r | though I confess, I love to spin the beryl cube when visitors are in the room |
| 07:05.53 | a_meteorite | Then snub in their nose: "Vista can't do this!" |
| 07:08.18 | L4m3r | no, I don't have to |
| 07:08.24 | a_meteorite | :P |
| 07:08.25 | L4m3r | they just say, "WHOA! what is that?" |
| 07:08.38 | L4m3r | and I say "Beryl... it's a linux thing" |
| 07:08.47 | a_meteorite | And they're probably "oh ok"? |
| 07:09.09 | blast007 | "WOAH! How do I installing Linux on Windows?!" |
| 07:09.14 | L4m3r | they usually just go "Oh" |
| 07:09.21 | a_meteorite | lol |
| 07:09.22 | L4m3r | slightly miffed that they can't use it |
| 07:09.39 | L4m3r | these are college students, a surprising number do know what linux is |
| 07:09.40 | a_meteorite | blast007: Then you say, "You can't. That's what makes me special." |
| 07:13.40 | blast007 | fffdsaf |
| 07:14.12 | a_meteorite | Huh? |
| 07:15.43 | blast007 | er |
| 07:16.13 | blast007 | apparently this Infinite-3D cube thing doesn't redraw windows |
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| 09:15.32 | zee390 | za6to ne moga da vlqza v igrata |
| 09:15.49 | brlcad | exactly what I was thinking |
| 09:16.48 | zee390 | nqmam server |
| 09:17.36 | Manu | hehe |
| 09:18.16 | zee390 | e e sme6no |
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| 16:08.12 | spldart | squawk? gaming voice chat? |
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| 16:46.01 | spldart | Are clients still restricted by default to only trusted bzflag url's for say meshes to download? |
| 16:47.52 | A-Delusion | yes |
| 17:01.40 | CBG | meshes? they are included in the map file which are downloaded when the user connects to the server - whatever server it is. |
| 17:03.01 | spldart | sry textures |
| 17:03.24 | spldart | btw... is their a good bzflag image I can use in a billboard to give credit to bzflag? |
| 17:04.37 | spldart | kinda like the one on top of the bzbb page but without the bzbb and forums in it |
| 17:05.33 | brad | why not use title.png ? ;) |
| 17:06.44 | spldart | ? |
| 17:07.16 | brad | ya know, the image that appears at the top when you start bzflag |
| 17:08.53 | spldart | Isnt' that image stamped with the release ver? |
| 17:09.24 | brad | hmmmmm maybe... but it's easy to remove |
| 17:09.55 | brad | does it even matter if the version is in it? |
| 17:10.06 | spldart | I don't see it in my data dir |
| 17:10.55 | brad | it's in mine.. |
| 17:13.40 | spldart | okies found it |
| 17:13.52 | spldart | hrm that little 2.0.8 logo :mad: |
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| 18:34.55 | spldart | AAAHHHH... the dreaded mesh that follows the tank around the world |
| 18:59.45 | brad | ~bzflist |
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| 19:01.52 | randomparticle | hi |
| 19:02.21 | brad | hi snick |
| 19:02.25 | randomparticle | does the recording playback work in 2.1.x now that the new dead reckoning has been implemented? |
| 19:02.36 | brad | quol fixed the replay server btw |
| 19:02.45 | randomparticle | thanks, brad |
| 19:03.33 | randomparticle | presumably the server clock, if unadjusted, will be out of sync with update timestamps at playback time |
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| 19:41.27 | Quol | anyone in here now anything why the recordmatch plugin would only record one match and then stop recording any further matches? I have to restart bzfs in order for the plugin to auto-record anything else?? |
| 19:45.24 | CBG | I don't think it does that by default... may require a server/plugin mod. |
| 19:45.41 | CBG | I think the command must be used for further matches to be recorded. |
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| 20:42.18 | c2water | I am sealed whenever I drive on certain surfaces. Can anyone help me? - http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?p=101698 |
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| 21:22.08 | bz45 | hello |
| 21:22.22 | bz45 | Ummm....how are the player names displayed |
| 21:22.30 | bz45 | thos it use 2D text or 3D |
| 21:22.51 | blast007 | we have our own font rendering system |
| 21:22.53 | bz45 | and if 2D meaning cordinates of x, y not x, y, z where z is depth |
| 21:22.59 | bz45 | right i saw that |
| 21:23.07 | blast007 | I think it's processed in just an X and Y position |
| 21:23.21 | blast007 | there isn't any depth or rotation |
| 21:23.24 | bz45 | so it doesn't render at tanks location per say |
| 21:23.26 | bz45 | right |
| 21:23.45 | bz45 | so how does it figure out where to display on screen since it is not rendering like tank |
| 21:23.46 | blast007 | I'm not sure how the tank labels work |
| 21:23.51 | bz45 | k |
| 21:24.05 | blast007 | (labels in observer mode showing player names) |
| 21:24.10 | bz45 | right |
| 21:24.29 | blast007 | well, we know the resolution that the game is running |
| 21:24.43 | blast007 | so we can determine where to place things |
| 21:25.07 | bz45 | so how would you get the location of the tank relative to the screen |
| 21:27.00 | blast007 | magic |
| 21:27.05 | blast007 | (not sure really) |
| 21:27.10 | bz45 | hmmmm |
| 21:27.12 | blast007 | haven't really had a reason to check |
| 21:27.32 | blast007 | finding where it does the tank labels would give you an idea |
| 21:27.51 | brlcad | it performs the perspective projection to find the x,y coordinates |
| 21:28.29 | brlcad | scores and player names are a simple 2d overlay |
| 21:28.41 | bz45 | so any idea where to start looking |
| 21:28.56 | bz45 | i'm am not very familar with the layout |
| 21:29.06 | brlcad | to start looking for .. what? |
| 21:29.21 | bz45 | how it does projection |
| 21:29.29 | bz45 | where all that is |
| 21:29.29 | brlcad | i mean for what purpose |
| 21:30.20 | bz45 | ?...trying to figure out how it works |
| 21:30.49 | brlcad | src/bzflag/ScoreboardRenderer.cxx |
| 21:33.52 | bz45 | doesn't appear to have anything to do with the observer labels |
| 21:42.11 | bz45 | anybody know? |
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| 21:51.03 | bz45 | hmm HUDRenderer line 866 looks like the start |
| 21:57.28 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * 10bzflag/ (33 files in 2 dirs): |
| 21:57.28 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: Updated zlib (sans examples, amiga, and contrib) to version 1.2.3; this |
| 21:57.28 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: eliminates a potential security vulnerability when decoding invalid compressed |
| 21:57.28 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: data (VU#238678 / SA11129) as well as eliminates a potential security |
| 21:57.28 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: vulnerability when decoding specially crafted compressed data (VU#680620 / |
| 21:57.31 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: SA15949). other updates included, see the zlib release notes for details. |
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| 22:15.03 | Killer123 | hello |
| 22:15.14 | blast007 | howdy |
| 22:16.10 | spldart | A) how do I reset all my /set ings B) How do I remove the ability for it to be changed via poll |
| 22:16.35 | CBG` | /reset * ? |
| 22:16.46 | spldart | And preventing it from being changed? |
| 22:17.00 | *** join/#bzflag a_temp_dist (n=a_temp_d@63-228-6-185.mpls.qwest.net) |
| 22:17.07 | spldart | huh... my bzadmin segfaulted |
| 22:17.17 | CBG` | don't give the appropriate SET perm to EVERYONE, REGISTERED, etc |
| 22:17.26 | blast007 | POLLSET, I belive |
| 22:18.11 | blast007 | spldart: my groups look like this: |
| 22:18.15 | blast007 | EVERYONE: -ALL actionMessage adminMessageSend date flagHistory idleStats lagStats privateMessage spawn talk |
| 22:18.18 | blast007 | REGISTERED: -ALL *EVERYONE requireIdentify |
| 22:18.21 | blast007 | VERIFIED: -ALL *REGISTERED poll pollBan pollKick pollFlagReset vote |
| 22:18.27 | blast007 | and then I have my local.admin stuff and my global groups |
| 22:18.39 | spldart | hrm... I didn't specify any permissions |
| 22:19.16 | blast007 | it defaults to having pollSet for VERIFIED |
| 22:19.34 | a_temp_dist | -ALL removes any default perms? |
| 22:19.51 | blast007 | I explicitly define all my permissions so I know what everyone has |
| 22:19.52 | blast007 | yeah |
| 22:19.55 | spldart | ah |
| 22:20.13 | CBG` | it removes ALL |
| 22:20.14 | blast007 | and *EVERYONE assigns the rights of EVERYONE to that group |
| 22:20.30 | a_temp_dist | very efficient :) |
| 22:20.32 | CBG` | It's all covered in the man page, I was reading it recently. |
| 22:20.37 | spldart | I wanted pollflagreset and and pollban but not have them set any old variable |
| 22:20.37 | blast007 | yup |
| 22:20.52 | spldart | ah |
| 22:20.52 | blast007 | though I usually grab the list of perms from the source code itself, so I'm sure I get them all ;) |
| 22:21.13 | spldart | guess I'll have to go through code :) |
| 22:21.22 | spldart | now to figure out why bzadmin is segfaulting |
| 22:22.12 | spldart | wow |
| 22:22.24 | spldart | a terminal was faultering after bzadmin closed with a segfault |
| 22:22.27 | spldart | fixed now |
| 22:24.03 | CBG` | ~blast007++ |
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| 22:24.48 | *** mode/#bzflag [+v essy] by ChanServ |
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| 22:26.31 | VM123 | *test* |
| 22:26.37 | blast007 | *test failed* |
| 22:26.42 | VM123 | lol |
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| 22:26.49 | VM123 | I'm new to this :-) |
| 22:26.52 | blast007 | ;D |
| 22:27.15 | VM123 | lol |
| 22:27.21 | VM123 | how nice... |
| 22:27.22 | blast007 | drive by hugs |
| 22:28.26 | Pogovina | :D |
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| 22:29.56 | ViciousMuffin | thats better :> |
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| 22:30.26 | Killer123 | hello |
| 22:30.28 | blast007 | howdy |
| 22:30.39 | ViciousMuffin | g'day |
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| 22:30.57 | Killer123 | does anybody know how to log chat on my server? |
| 22:31.11 | ViciousMuffin | im sure blast does |
| 22:31.17 | ViciousMuffin | im stupid :P |
| 22:31.23 | Killer123 | lol |
| 22:31.28 | SportChick | Killer123: it might be -echo but I'd ask one of the others |
| 22:31.31 | a_temp_dist | what command are you using to start your server? |
| 22:31.42 | blast007 | Killer123: on your server, or from the client you mean? |
| 22:31.50 | Killer123 | server |
| 22:31.55 | blast007 | okay, on the server, just get the debug level up a bit |
| 22:32.09 | blast007 | -dd or -ddd is probably good, though I think chat shows with -d |
| 22:32.22 | blast007 | then you just redirect to a file |
| 22:32.35 | blast007 | ex: bzfs -conf something.conf > log.txt |
| 22:32.36 | Killer123 | okay so can u tell me exactly what to type? |
| 22:32.46 | Killer123 | im a beginner |
| 22:32.55 | blast007 | although I use tee, so I can both see the stuff live, and also log it |
| 22:33.01 | CBG | something like: bzfs -conf something.conf > log.txt |
| 22:33.13 | Killer123 | cheers ill try it |
| 22:33.25 | blast007 | so I use: bzfs -conf something.conf | tee -a log.txt |
| 22:33.36 | a_temp_dist | the -a flag does what? |
| 22:33.40 | blast007 | that writes it to log.txt as well as the screen |
| 22:33.42 | a_temp_dist | append? |
| 22:33.43 | blast007 | uh, let me check |
| 22:33.45 | blast007 | probably |
| 22:33.54 | blast007 | yup |
| 22:33.57 | a_temp_dist | cool |
| 22:33.58 | CBG | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:34.09 | blast007 | comes in handy |
| 22:34.38 | Killer123 | what does debug mean and the different levels? |
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| 22:34.52 | CBG | more "d"s = more detailed output. |
| 22:34.53 | blast007 | Killer123: more and more message will show the higher the debug level |
| 22:35.12 | blast007 | 3 is the most you want unless you are debugging stuff |
| 22:35.16 | CBG | If you don't have any debug levels, there will be (almost?) no output. |
| 22:35.17 | Killer123 | so the higher the debug the more messages shown? |
| 22:35.20 | blast007 | 4 adds up to large logs really fast |
| 22:35.28 | a_temp_dist | here's a man page for bzfs |
| 22:35.28 | a_temp_dist | http://www.die.net/doc/linux/man/man6/bzfs.6.html |
| 22:35.29 | blast007 | Killer123: yeah, stuff like errors or warnings |
| 22:35.33 | CBG | Yeah, stick to 2 or 3 (-dd or -ddd) |
| 22:35.38 | Killer123 | klkl |
| 22:36.54 | spldart | Is there enough alec bots on boxy?3. |
| 22:37.04 | ViciousMuffin | lol |
| 22:37.06 | ViciousMuffin | no kidding.. |
| 22:37.26 | Killer123 | do i need to create a log file after setting the debug level? |
| 22:37.56 | brad | ~bzflist |
| 22:39.18 | blast007 | Killer123: the log file will be created automatically when you pipe the output |
| 22:39.55 | blast007 | "how to log information from bzfs" |
| 22:40.02 | Killer123 | okay so after i have typed in -ddd in the conf file that is all i need to do? |
| 22:40.03 | brad | Killer123: are you the one who has been spamming servers? |
| 22:40.20 | blast007 | brad: well, not really "spamming", just advertising his server |
| 22:40.37 | Killer123 | yeah im really sorry about it |
| 22:40.40 | brad | still spam ;) |
| 22:40.49 | Killer123 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:41.39 | blast007 | Killer123: also, your server didn't seem to work |
| 22:41.44 | blast007 | several of us tried to connect |
| 22:42.03 | blast007 | neither bzadmin nor the graphical client would connect |
| 22:42.09 | Killer123 | yeah my internet connection is slightly tempremental |
| 22:42.25 | blast007 | yet I *could* get to it via telnet, but of course, I can't do anything that way ;D |
| 22:42.41 | Killer123 | it seems to be working now |
| 22:43.04 | *** part/#bzflag Pogovina (n=Pogovina@cpe-24-28-107-184.houston.res.rr.com) |
| 22:44.09 | CBG | It is. |
| 22:46.10 | Killer123 | sry to be annoying but can you get the log into a file rather than just cmd? |
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| 22:49.53 | blast007 | Killer123: we told you know |
| 22:49.56 | blast007 | how* |
| 22:50.05 | blast007 | Killer123: what OS is the server? |
| 22:50.12 | a_temp_dist | Killer123: who made that map? |
| 22:50.20 | blast007 | oh yeah, that too ;) |
| 22:50.29 | a_temp_dist | Killer123: where is the server located? |
| 22:50.34 | blast007 | I might run it for a while on my server |
| 22:50.39 | blast007 | seems like an interesting map |
| 22:51.03 | blast007 | almost looks like it's a CTF map |
| 22:51.10 | a_temp_dist | [SERVER->] BZFS Version: 2.0.8.20060513-MAINT-W32VC71 |
| 22:51.19 | blast007 | eww, thought so |
| 22:52.01 | blast007 | Killer123: assuming you aren't using a shortcut, and are using a batch file, add this to the end of the command line: > log.txt |
| 22:52.13 | blast007 | (not sure if it works in a shortcut) |
| 22:53.57 | Killer123 | the server is on windows |
| 22:54.06 | Killer123 | i made the map |
| 22:54.26 | ViciousMuffin | I sure hope you did... |
| 22:54.42 | Killer123 | yes i can assure you lol |
| 22:55.47 | ViciousMuffin | 1,9 |
| 22:56.03 | ViciousMuffin | *test* |
| 22:59.33 | blast007 | Killer123: mine if I run it on a real server? |
| 22:59.36 | blast007 | mind* |
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| 23:07.07 | Killer123 | is windows a poor server? |
| 23:07.26 | Killer123 | do u recommend i change OS? |
| 23:08.09 | a_temp_dist | it has limitations, but changing would probably be tougher for you |
| 23:08.28 | Killer123 | yeah i am used to windows |
| 23:08.58 | blast007 | Killer123: I have a server with 10mbit, so I could run the server for you for a while |
| 23:09.14 | blast007 | is that a CTF map, or just FFA? |
| 23:09.16 | L4m3r | ~lart ViciousMuffin |
| 23:09.19 | blast007 | I didn't check the actual map file |
| 23:09.28 | ViciousMuffin | ? |
| 23:09.30 | ViciousMuffin | huh? |
| 23:09.33 | L4m3r | pong |
| 23:09.38 | blast007 | ViciousMuffin: for pinging the channel |
| 23:09.46 | a_temp_dist | if you continue to run that server on DSL, you might want to set the max number of players at 10 or so |
| 23:09.52 | blast007 | or 6 |
| 23:09.59 | blast007 | Killer123: what's your upstream speed like? |
| 23:10.00 | ViciousMuffin | oh, I'm reading the help page commands :-P |
| 23:10.22 | blast007 | ViciousMuffin: did you read the one about /quit ? |
| 23:10.23 | a_temp_dist | it was 4 shot - I'll bet it could handle more than 6 |
| 23:10.23 | blast007 | ;) |
| 23:10.30 | blast007 | a_temp_dist: depends |
| 23:10.32 | ViciousMuffin | :-D yes. |
| 23:10.35 | a_temp_dist | course |
| 23:10.47 | blast007 | I could only do 6 players on my 256kbps upstream |
| 23:10.59 | blast007 | shot count isn't as much of a factor as people think |
| 23:11.06 | blast007 | as long as you stick around 1 to 10 |
| 23:11.13 | CBG | ViciousMuffin: read the latest server news message: /server read |
| 23:11.13 | *** join/#bzflag ViciousMuffin (n=VM@adsl-065-013-159-245.sip.rdu.bellsouth.net) |
| 23:11.21 | ViciousMuffin | hehe |
| 23:11.28 | blast007 | CBG: missed him |
| 23:11.31 | CBG | What does what do? |
| 23:11.57 | blast007 | CBG: "/quit" :P |
| 23:12.01 | CBG | ViciousMuffin: read the latest server news message: /server read |
| 23:12.04 | blast007 | lol |
| 23:12.05 | CBG | damnit... |
| 23:12.13 | CBG | I have the worst luck. |
| 23:12.28 | blast007 | your luck is fine, your timing just sucks ;) |
| 23:12.37 | CBG | My lag doesn't help. |
| 23:13.19 | Gnurdux | what does read do? |
| 23:13.29 | Gnurdux | nothing here |
| 23:13.35 | Gnurdux | read :Unknown command |
| 23:13.42 | Gnurdux | oh wiat |
| 23:13.44 | Gnurdux | server |
| 23:13.48 | Gnurdux | not quote |
| 23:13.50 | Gnurdux | oh lol |
| 23:13.55 | CBG | ... right. ;) |
| 23:14.09 | Gnurdux | right i was confusing server with quote |
| 23:14.16 | Gnurdux | so i jsut typed /read |
| 23:14.22 | blast007 | it's the F12 trick for IRC |
| 23:14.25 | Gnurdux | yep |
| 23:14.36 | CBG | Anyone remember "/part antlers" ? |
| 23:14.53 | a_temp_dist | har - classic |
| 23:15.13 | blast007 | what's that do? |
| 23:15.21 | CBG | ...? |
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| 23:20.01 | CBG | hey BenUrban |
| 23:20.06 | BenUrban | hiya |
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| 23:28.48 | Killer123 | am i allowed to advertis my server here? |
| 23:28.54 | Killer123 | advertise* |
| 23:29.03 | blast007 | probably not |
| 23:29.10 | blast007 | why do you need to advertise? |
| 23:29.20 | Killer123 | to try and get more players |
| 23:29.37 | inchworm | 192.168.0.10? |
| 23:29.56 | blast007 | Killer123: how about you make it an attractive server and let that do it |
| 23:30.16 | Killer123 | it is I think but people don't know about it |
| 23:30.42 | inchworm | Killer123: if it's on the list, someone will try it out sooner or later |
| 23:30.52 | Killer123 | blast007: is it you i was messaging to on the forum? |
| 23:31.03 | blast007 | hmm? |
| 23:31.24 | Killer123 | dusnt matter |
| 23:31.43 | Killer123 | do u know who therif is? |
| 23:32.05 | blast007 | an admin on my server |
| 23:32.17 | Killer123 | okay he was warning me about advertising |
| 23:32.25 | blast007 | good :) |
| 23:32.25 | Killer123 | im really sorry about that |
| 23:32.27 | blast007 | he notified me too |
| 23:32.29 | blast007 | np |
| 23:32.39 | Killer123 | as i say im knew |
| 23:32.43 | Killer123 | new* |
| 23:33.50 | Killer123 | is there a way to host a bzflag server 24 hours rather than leaving my computer on all the time? |
| 23:34.11 | CBG | Get a deicated server? |
| 23:34.21 | brad | dedicated* |
| 23:34.24 | Killer123 | what is that? |
| 23:34.40 | CBG | www.google.com |
| 23:34.53 | Killer123 | cheers |
| 23:35.17 | Killer123 | ah i see |
| 23:35.23 | blast007 | Killer123: I have a dedicated server |
| 23:35.24 | Killer123 | r there any that are free? |
| 23:35.29 | a_temp_dist | Killer123: advertise your server in the Servers: General Discussion thread |
| 23:35.30 | a_temp_dist | http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewforum.php?f=30 |
| 23:35.43 | blast007 | or post your map online for others to host |
| 23:35.43 | Killer123 | i am running it from my home pc |
| 23:35.50 | blast007 | (like me) |
| 23:36.00 | CBG | Killer123: I highly doubt it. You're probably looking at $50+/month for a basic dedicated server. |
| 23:36.09 | Killer123 | okay |
| 23:36.24 | blast007 | mine is $74/month, as is the mofo server |
| 23:36.33 | spldart | Heh.. hadda ban a dude for cap cussing @ all the users the lie... I'm and admin! I'm an admin! I will ban you all! |
| 23:36.53 | blast007 | hehe |
| 23:37.19 | blast007 | Killer123: and I'd be willing to host your map |
| 23:37.21 | spldart | I must assume that player was some lower form of life |
| 23:37.35 | blast007 | I'd even give you cop rights on it |
| 23:38.04 | Killer123 | thanks for the interest |
| 23:38.11 | Killer123 | ill just keep it on my pc |
| 23:38.16 | blast007 | roger |
| 23:38.21 | blast007 | have fun with the lag ;) |
| 23:38.25 | Killer123 | not the best map anyway lol |
| 23:38.33 | Killer123 | is the lag really that bad? |
| 23:38.36 | blast007 | yeah |
| 23:38.39 | a_temp_dist | yes |
| 23:38.42 | Killer123 | oh no! |
| 23:38.52 | blast007 | you might want to cut down on the max players |
| 23:38.54 | brad | what speed connection do you have? |
| 23:38.56 | Killer123 | i am upgrading my broadband connection |
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| 23:39.05 | Killer123 | i have 512kbps now |
| 23:39.09 | blast007 | upstream? |
| 23:39.11 | blast007 | or down? |
| 23:39.13 | Killer123 | down |
| 23:39.14 | Rawk | hi guys |
| 23:39.14 | brad | down I guess :P |
| 23:39.17 | brad | yep lol |
| 23:39.19 | blast007 | ewww |
| 23:39.21 | Killer123 | 256 upstream |
| 23:39.22 | blast007 | what is the up then? |
| 23:39.23 | blast007 | ah |
| 23:39.32 | blast007 | yeah, way too many players for 256 up |
| 23:39.39 | Killer123 | upgrading to 8mbps though |
| 23:39.45 | blast007 | you might squeze 6 through 256 |
| 23:39.47 | Killer123 | down |
| 23:39.52 | blast007 | any idea of the up? |
| 23:39.59 | a_temp_dist | probably 1 |
| 23:40.08 | blast007 | yeah |
| 23:40.12 | Killer123 | not yet should b a lot better though |
| 23:40.23 | blast007 | my guess is somewhere from 512kbps to 1mbps |
| 23:40.37 | Killer123 | i guess |
| 23:40.40 | TD-Linux | if you want a second computer to run all the time as a server, you can build one from Newegg parts for about $300 |
| 23:40.56 | TD-Linux | or find some old computer and load Linux on it for free |
| 23:40.59 | blast007 | TD-Linux: heck, or grab someone's old Pentium II |
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| 23:41.13 | Killer123 | how dues linux work? |
| 23:41.21 | Killer123 | i dont understand it |
| 23:41.23 | TD-Linux | you install it, like you install Windows... |
| 23:41.28 | Killer123 | yeah |
| 23:41.39 | TD-Linux | well, so you divide your hard disk into two parts |
| 23:41.40 | blast007 | it's like windows, but less clicky and more typey |
| 23:41.46 | TD-Linux | one for linux, one for windows |
| 23:41.52 | Killer123 | okay |
| 23:41.59 | TD-Linux | then when you turn on your computer, you pick which one to start |
| 23:42.02 | blast007 | well, assuming you want to do both on the same computer |
| 23:42.09 | Killer123 | yup |
| 23:42.13 | blast007 | if he's getting a second PC, he could just make it dedicated |
| 23:42.23 | TD-Linux | Linux programs don't work on Windows, Windows programs don't work on Linux (unless you use a special program that sometimes works, called wine) |
| 23:42.28 | blast007 | Killer123: and you can't really adjust the partition size after you already have Windows installed |
| 23:42.39 | Killer123 | okay i get it |
| 23:42.39 | a_temp_dist | you really have to learn how to build applications on different Linux flavors |
| 23:42.39 | TD-Linux | Killer123: ignore brad, you can :) |
| 23:42.41 | blast007 | so you'd be reinstalling Windows to dual-boot |
| 23:42.45 | TD-Linux | no |
| 23:42.47 | Killer123 | yup |
| 23:42.58 | inchworm | blast007: i've successfully repartitioned... |
| 23:43.03 | TD-Linux | NTFS resizes super easy without a problem |
| 23:43.09 | brad | ~lart TD-Linux |
| 23:43.12 | blast007 | TD-Linux: oh sure, you can do it, but we're not talking about a linux expert here |
| 23:43.16 | TD-Linux | err |
| 23:43.17 | TD-Linux | sorry |
| 23:43.28 | TD-Linux | got blast007 and brad confused :O |
| 23:43.33 | blast007 | ;) |
| 23:43.35 | Killer123 | btw do u know how to send private messages on this? |
| 23:43.41 | blast007 | with /msg |
| 23:43.42 | brad | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:43.45 | blast007 | I win |
| 23:43.48 | TD-Linux | this being a real irc client or CGI:IRC? |
| 23:43.49 | Killer123 | lol |
| 23:43.49 | brad | >:( |
| 23:43.49 | a_temp_dist | heh |
| 23:43.57 | TD-Linux | /msg |
| 23:44.04 | TD-Linux | I win, becuase I don't have a space in front |
| 23:44.13 | inchworm | heh |
| 23:44.14 | blast007 | oh, and you might have to register your name depending who you talk to |
| 23:44.27 | Killer123 | klkl |
| 23:44.39 | Killer123 | thanks for the test |
| 23:44.49 | blast007 | np |
| 23:45.26 | a_temp_dist | what does "klkl" mean? |
| 23:46.04 | Killer123 | cool |
| 23:46.12 | Killer123 | klkl = cool cool |
| 23:46.15 | brad | uhh.. |
| 23:46.19 | brad | no |
| 23:47.46 | Killer123 | so is it a bad idea to advertise my server on this? |
| 23:47.52 | blast007 | on here |
| 23:47.55 | Killer123 | yeah |
| 23:48.17 | brad | make a topic for it on the forums |
| 23:48.20 | blast007 | 17:33:49 < a_temp_dist> Killer123: advertise your server in the Servers: General Discussion thread |
| 23:48.23 | blast007 | 17:33:50 < a_temp_dist> http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewforum.php?f=30 |
| 23:48.26 | brad | yeah do that :p |
| 23:48.29 | blast007 | make a topic in there |
| 23:48.34 | Killer123 | okay |
| 23:48.39 | blast007 | specify any admins, the name of the map, etc |
| 23:52.52 | Killer123 | i have made a topic in there |
| 23:52.58 | spldart | I still haven't gotten over the racist tone to the statement on a rabbit map.... "Shoot the white guy!!!" |
| 23:54.16 | a_temp_dist | just switch tank for guy |
| 23:55.10 | *** join/#bzflag BenUrban (n=benurban@unaffiliated/benurban) |
| 23:55.36 | Killer123 | also does anyone know how to create and add cops? |
| 23:56.18 | inchworm | spldart: haha |
| 23:56.18 | CBG | Killer123: see the bzfs page at my.bzflag.org/bzfman.cgi |
| 23:56.25 | Killer123 | ok |
| 23:56.27 | a_temp_dist | Killer123: start reading the BZBB |
| 23:56.28 | a_temp_dist | http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=6516 |
| 23:57.09 | inchworm | spldart: be thankful all the rest of the tanks are primary colors so the analogy ends there :) |
| 23:57.29 | inchworm | or at least very non-skin colored :) |
| 23:57.47 | spldart | lol |
| 23:58.25 | CBG | purple's not a primary colour in art or physics. |
| 23:59.27 | CBG | :P |
| 23:59.29 | spldart | White=Anglo, Red=Indian, Blue=Andorian, Green=Orion, Purple=Bart Simpson being choked by dad to long |
| 23:59.34 | purple_cow | *ahem* |