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| 00:44.40 | bz26 | hi |
| 00:45.02 | blast007 | hello |
| 00:45.46 | bz26 | i have a question, were can i find the commands of a server, like poll, flagreset etc.? |
| 00:47.23 | blast007 | http://my.bzflag.org/bzfman.cgi?bzfs.6.in |
| 00:47.30 | blast007 | there is a section with commands on that page |
| 00:48.15 | blast007 | about half way down the page |
| 00:48.58 | bz26 | thx - i'm reading |
| 00:49.45 | blast007 | np |
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| 01:32.34 | brlcad | hilarious.. but so true.. |
| 01:32.34 | brlcad | At times I think libtool's motto should be "libtool - given what a pain |
| 01:32.35 | brlcad | it is, just imagine how bad the alternatives must be." |
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| 01:39.20 | randomparticle_ | if located the bug in the bzflag rebound calculation that causes shots to pass through solid boxes |
| 01:39.26 | randomparticle_ | *i've |
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| 01:40.59 | randomparticle | test |
| 01:41.03 | randomparticle | ok. i've located the bug in the bzflag rebound calculation that causes shots to pass through solid boxes |
| 01:42.32 | inchworm | heh |
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| 01:56.20 | randomparticle | hi. any devs reading? |
| 01:56.44 | inchworm | eventually, yes |
| 01:57.45 | randomparticle | i've found the bug that causes this: http://bzfusion.net/macosxbzflag/b2s.jpg |
| 01:58.29 | randomparticle | to my knowledge it affects windows and mac clients, and may well affect linux clients too |
| 02:03.04 | randomparticle | also look at this: http://www.brad.bz/uploads/bzfi0096.png |
| 02:03.11 | randomparticle | a very strange angle of reflection |
| 02:04.34 | CBG | in the middle of the underside of the base? |
| 02:09.18 | brlcad | post up the fix to the patches tracker |
| 02:12.27 | randomparticle | yeah, that's the one, cbg |
| 02:12.48 | randomparticle | i don't have a fix. could be complicated. hard for me to say at this point |
| 02:12.58 | CBG | Never thought of it as a bug... more some kinda hidden secret... |
| 02:13.14 | randomparticle | or rather, i have an easy fix, but i'm not sure if it has negative consequences |
| 02:13.23 | randomparticle | and it's probably a bit hackist |
| 02:13.27 | randomparticle | hackish |
| 02:14.21 | randomparticle | when shots can pass through blocks that are 10m high.. i think we can call that a bug :) |
| 02:14.22 | randomparticle | http://bzfusion.net/macosxbzflag/c2s.jpg |
| 02:14.33 | randomparticle | i'm sure that wasn't intended to happen |
| 02:14.46 | CBG | They pass through too...? yikes. |
| 02:15.01 | randomparticle | yeah, it's not a matter of the bases being thin |
| 02:15.42 | brlcad | it is a bug, both passing through the object and being reflected at incorrect angles |
| 02:15.54 | brlcad | there was a fix at one point, but it's related to numeric instabilities |
| 02:19.30 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03bthansen 07v2_0branch * 10bzflag/plugins/keepaway/ (README.txt keepaway.cpp keepaway_admin.txt): Add optional flag reset after successful keepaway |
| 02:20.49 | randomparticle | in short the cause is this: |
| 02:20.53 | randomparticle | a check is done to see if the reflection point is at the same height as an upper or lower horizontal face |
| 02:20.53 | randomparticle | if it isn't, it's assumed the reflection is off a side face |
| 02:20.53 | randomparticle | the height of the reflection point doesn't have to be exactly the same |
| 02:20.53 | randomparticle | merely within distance 'Epsilon' of the height of the face |
| 02:20.54 | randomparticle | but the value for 'Epsilon' is too small |
| 02:20.54 | randomparticle | as a result of this, the wrong surface normal can be returned |
| 02:21.16 | randomparticle | excuse any terminological inexactitude |
| 02:24.49 | brlcad | sounds about right |
| 02:30.59 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03bthansen * 10bzflag/plugins/keepaway/ (README.txt keepaway.cpp keepaway_admin.txt): Add optional flag reset after successful keepaway |
| 02:31.45 | randomparticle | this may be an arithmetical precision problem |
| 02:32.18 | randomparticle | Epsilon is 0.000001, and when i got some shots to go through, they were 0.000001 from the underside of the base |
| 02:32.53 | randomparticle | sorry, i meant to write 0.000002 from the underside |
| 02:33.34 | randomparticle | i think it's worth noting that some shots go through blocks for some clients but not for others |
| 02:34.16 | randomparticle | it is possible, therefore, that (say) windows users are less vulnerable to being hit by such shots |
| 02:34.31 | randomparticle | and the bug is being exploited in gu matches |
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| 04:04.28 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * 10bzflag/include/common.h: |
| 04:04.28 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: a tolerance of FLT_EPSILON was causing a variety of issues being too close to |
| 04:04.28 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: floating point computational instabilities during computation resulting in |
| 04:04.28 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: missed collision detection, bad reflections, and possibly other errors. Pick a |
| 04:04.28 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: tolerance more reasonable to the scale of the worlds, 5 millimeter accuracy. |
| 04:15.13 | brlcad | a compiler option would also fix it probably if IEEE math was forced during compilation |
| 04:15.42 | brlcad | s/reverts/diverts/ |
| 04:16.10 | randomparticle | i see |
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| 04:17.33 | brlcad | i still wouldn't say it's an advantage or even worth punishing those that use it, it's just an unintended abnormality .. those same users probably occasionally have issues becoming sealed among other details |
| 04:18.34 | randomparticle | someone mentioned before that -ffast-math might be dangerous. searching online, i find 'Improve FP speed by violating ANSI & IEEE rules' |
| 04:18.47 | brlcad | yep, that's what it does |
| 04:19.10 | brlcad | which is why FLT_EPSILON is a bad default |
| 04:19.26 | brlcad | FLT_EPSILON is only true if you don't use -ffast-math |
| 04:19.32 | randomparticle | i see |
| 04:20.22 | brlcad | or rather, when the compilation does use IEEE floating point (which may or may not be the default, -fieee to be sure (or somesuch)) |
| 04:21.00 | randomparticle | just searching for a compiler flag now |
| 04:21.14 | brlcad | probably -mieee |
| 04:21.37 | randomparticle | gcc man page is 7581 lines long here :) |
| 04:21.40 | brlcad | -mieee-fp |
| 04:22.04 | brlcad | -mieee-fp and of course without -ffast-math |
| 04:23.27 | randomparticle | ok. will give that a try. |
| 04:26.38 | brlcad | testing whether that change to head works would be useful |
| 04:28.15 | randomparticle | ok |
| 04:28.33 | randomparticle | just about to compile 2.0.9. will try that first |
| 04:29.16 | randomparticle | should have a compile bzflag race sometime :) |
| 04:30.35 | randomparticle | am compiling the whole lot to be on the safe side |
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| 04:32.28 | randomparticle | i bet it won't make any difference. we shall see |
| 04:33.06 | randomparticle | ok. compiled. testing it now |
| 04:34.30 | randomparticle | nope, still going through |
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| 04:59.22 | randomparticle | oh.. aha! :) |
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| 06:42.58 | SportChick | brlcad: hehe, no worries |
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| 12:11.49 | bz10 | ~bzfquery eboll.dyndns.org:5155 |
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| 12:26.46 | bz18 | ~bzfquery eboll.dyndns.org |
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| 12:35.46 | catay | bz37: you better do this somewhere else ;) |
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| 12:36.51 | bz10 | ~bzfquery eboll.dydns.org:5155 |
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| 12:37.11 | bz10 | ~bzfquery eboll.dyndns.org:5155 |
| 12:37.14 | A-Delusion | persistant |
| 12:37.16 | catay | bz10: go do it in #botpark or do it private |
| 12:37.40 | bz10 | ok |
| 12:37.51 | catay | ty |
| 12:38.48 | KTL | ibot does not talk in private |
| 12:40.24 | KTL | (no ibot there) |
| 12:40.52 | KTL | (but a purl-bot) |
| 13:01.57 | catay | oh. Oh well, we are rid of him anyway :) |
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| 17:39.05 | KTL | class BzfWindowCB { |
| 17:39.05 | KTL | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:39.05 | KTL | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:39.05 | KTL | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:39.05 | KTL | }; |
| 17:39.21 | KTL | ah that first line is a method? |
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| 17:42.55 | Tupone | ciao orchid |
| 17:43.01 | KTL | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:43.39 | Tupone | of a struct/class? yes |
| 17:43.55 | KTL | ok, never seen such a construct |
| 17:44.50 | Tupone | is the normal way to specify a function |
| 17:45.16 | KTL | ah it is a method and not some sort of object-memory |
| 17:45.30 | Tupone | not a method, an attribute |
| 17:45.53 | KTL | so ... is it a pointer to a function then? |
| 17:46.02 | Tupone | contain the address of the function |
| 17:46.07 | KTL | ok :) |
| 17:46.51 | Tupone | is a function with a void * parameters, and return a void*, you refer it via x->cb(xxx) |
| 17:47.28 | Tupone | x is container of this attribute |
| 17:47.41 | Tupone | well a pointer to it |
| 17:47.47 | KTL | mmm "cb" in my piece of code |
| 17:48.00 | KTL | nice , but lots of casting i guess |
| 17:48.13 | Tupone | because of the void * |
| 17:48.29 | KTL | yes |
| 17:48.54 | Tupone | you could have a bool (cb)(int) |
| 17:49.29 | Tupone | if you like, but that is mean to be generic, probably is for a thread call |
| 17:49.48 | Tupone | or a generic callback |
| 17:49.50 | KTL | it comes from include/BzfWindow.h |
| 17:49.53 | Tupone | cb -> callback |
| 17:50.07 | KTL | i am scanning the headers to make a uml class diagram from them |
| 17:50.21 | Tupone | I hate uml :) |
| 17:50.30 | KTL | me too, but i like pictures |
| 17:50.43 | Tupone | or, I ate that for breakfast |
| 17:50.56 | KTL | i hacked in bzflag code in the past, but i had no overview of what i was doing |
| 17:51.45 | Tupone | probably is the best way to work on it, when you have finished to study, you have a clear picture, but someone else mess the code, so you have to start again |
| 17:52.55 | KTL | that would be a real refactor beast if it could make much difference |
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| 18:12.25 | Tupone | cast is not always good, sometime optimizer become crazy. Union are better for that |
| 18:13.08 | Tupone | the shot bug on debian 64 bits was due to that |
| 18:13.29 | KTL | so , the different types must use the same amount of memory? |
| 18:13.39 | KTL | in the ... conjunction/ union |
| 18:13.42 | KTL | euhm |
| 18:13.46 | KTL | disjunction sorry |
| 18:16.54 | KTL | mmm ... in my own code i sometimes uses a integer value -2 -1 0 in pointers ... |
| 18:21.26 | Tupone | notm they just overlap, the memory used is the max of all the field |
| 18:22.42 | KTL | ah |
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| 18:34.02 | Bz_Win | At the risk of sounding like a moron, where is the 2.0.9 beta for windows kept? |
| 18:35.03 | CBG | www.search.the.forums.org |
| 18:35.04 | Tupone | you're a moron |
| 18:35.22 | Bz_Win | Thanks tupone, I knew that :p |
| 18:35.28 | Tupone | :) |
| 18:35.43 | Tupone | I don't use windows, so I don't know where is, sorry |
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| 18:36.55 | billis95 | hi |
| 18:37.06 | KTL | hi |
| 18:37.35 | billis95 | i got bannned from planet mofo 4 saying the a word 2 times |
| 18:37.53 | billis95 | by kOntos |
| 18:38.37 | CBG | billis95: so talk to the planet mofo admins, not the bzflag developer channel |
| 18:38.37 | billis95 | ehhhhh |
| 18:38.47 | CBG | You could join ##planetmofo ... |
| 18:39.08 | billis95 | this is the developer shannel oh sorry |
| 18:39.16 | billis95 | how do u do that? |
| 18:39.25 | CBG | /join ##planetmofo |
| 18:39.32 | CBG | We'll hear you out there. |
| 18:39.37 | billis95 | k |
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| 18:40.05 | CBG | Uh, can't you /join with the CGI interface? |
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| 18:40.24 | billis95 | i cant find it |
| 18:40.53 | billis95 | cbg |
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| 18:41.15 | brad | he cant with the cgi irc |
| 18:41.16 | Bz_Win | really? I can join |
| 18:41.28 | brad | isn't it limited to certain channels? |
| 18:41.42 | CBG | That was my question... |
| 18:41.46 | JeffM2501 | our cgi IRC limits where you can join |
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| 18:41.58 | JeffM2501 | others do not |
| 18:41.59 | billis95 | cant get in |
| 18:42.08 | CBG | billis95: you'll need to get a real client or find some other CGI interface. |
| 18:42.09 | JeffM2501 | what channel is he trying to get to? |
| 18:42.15 | CBG | ##planetmofo |
| 18:42.17 | billis95 | mofo |
| 18:42.40 | billis95 | client? |
| 18:42.42 | JeffM2501 | that is not on our list |
| 18:42.48 | JeffM2501 | so we won't allow it |
| 18:42.55 | billis95 | oh |
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| 18:43.19 | CBG | billis95: either find some other CGI interface to IRC, or get a real IRC client. Google is your friend. |
| 18:43.39 | billis95 | what do u type |
| 18:44.17 | billis95 | oh well thx anyway |
| 18:44.22 | ViciousMuffin | this: |
| 18:44.31 | KTL | now it comes ... |
| 18:44.31 | ViciousMuffin | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:44.35 | CBG | Search for an "IRC client" |
| 18:44.41 | CBG | ViciousMuffin: he can't. |
| 18:44.45 | KTL | mirc or xchat are good |
| 18:44.46 | ViciousMuffin | eh? |
| 18:44.53 | CBG | Are you deliberately being facetious? |
| 18:44.58 | CBG | Read up FFS. |
| 18:45.05 | blast007 | ViciousMuffin: bzflag.bz CGI:IRC is limited to specific channels |
| 18:45.11 | ViciousMuffin | oh, sry |
| 18:45.14 | KTL | billis95, http://www.mirc.com/get.html |
| 18:45.15 | blast007 | this one is not: http://www.strayer.de/bzflag_irc_chat.php?lang=eng&css=0 |
| 18:45.17 | JeffM2501 | ViciousMuffin, the my.bzflag.org web interface only allows some channels |
| 18:45.41 | billis95 | dont worry about it |
| 18:45.43 | CBG | ViciousMuffin: "our cgi IRC limits where you can join" |
| 18:45.54 | billis95 | i hate kontos |
| 18:46.18 | billis95 | bye |
| 18:46.20 | blast007 | bye |
| 18:47.11 | KTL | for once CBG gave a command that did not crash a irc client :) |
| 18:47.19 | ruskie | lol |
| 18:47.43 | CBG | I was gonna do that once he had said his piece. |
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| 19:57.41 | Alec | hey all |
| 19:57.41 | Alec | how do i get on bzadmin without downloading it onto my computer? |
| 19:57.49 | brlcad | heh |
| 19:58.04 | spldart | meh |
| 19:58.05 | Alec | b/c i have bzflag on my home comp, this is just my dads |
| 19:58.13 | Gnurdux | hehe |
| 19:58.14 | spldart | windows? |
| 19:58.16 | Gnurdux | do you use Linux? |
| 19:58.16 | Alec | yes |
| 19:58.20 | spldart | oops |
| 19:58.22 | Alec | windows |
| 19:58.26 | Gnurdux | oh too bad |
| 19:58.27 | brlcad | remote log into a machine that has bzadmin installed |
| 19:58.32 | Gnurdux | you probably cant |
| 19:58.34 | Alec | oh |
| 19:58.35 | Alec | lol |
| 19:58.38 | spldart | you will need bzadmin and some dll's from bzflag dir |
| 19:58.42 | KTL | putty does not require a real installation |
| 19:58.44 | Alec | theres not like a link on the site? |
| 19:58.51 | Tupone | hola brlcad |
| 19:58.56 | brlcad | hello tupone |
| 19:59.07 | spldart | At least I thought that was the case... coulda sworn I had done that |
| 19:59.08 | brlcad | KTL: it's still a "real installation" |
| 19:59.11 | Alec | have you guys clicked the link on the bzadmin pase on bzflag.org? |
| 19:59.16 | Alec | i think it has a bug |
| 19:59.33 | Alec | spy.bzadmin or something with spy in it |
| 19:59.46 | Alec | it is a link in the explaination |
| 19:59.54 | Alec | pulled up about 50 windows |
| 20:00.36 | brlcad | Alec, there is no spy.bzadmin link at http://bzflag.org |
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| 20:00.57 | Alec | the thing about the bug? |
| 20:01.08 | brlcad | Alec, there is no spy.bzadmin link at http://bzflag.org you'll have to be more specific |
| 20:01.15 | Alec | ok hold on |
| 20:01.28 | Alec | im not for sure what the link is, but its on that site |
| 20:02.15 | Alec | ok go to www.google.com and search for bzadmin |
| 20:02.24 | Alec | clcik the first link it takes you to bzflag.org |
| 20:02.36 | Alec | scroll down to the last part, and the link is there |
| 20:03.14 | Alec | spy@bzserver.xy is the link |
| 20:03.48 | Alec | got it brlcad? |
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| 20:04.00 | Alec | hi quol |
| 20:04.01 | brlcad | that's an e-mail example |
| 20:04.12 | Alec | it pulled up 50 windows! |
| 20:04.21 | Alec | and my comp freaked out :) |
| 20:04.26 | Quol | hello Alec |
| 20:04.28 | Quol | and all |
| 20:04.35 | brlcad | that would be some issue with your web browser |
| 20:04.47 | Alec | oh well, i was worried about it, thanks |
| 20:05.01 | Alec | it was just odd |
| 20:05.01 | brlcad | it's just a simple example e-mail, and it's on the wiki so you could change it if you really wanted to |
| 20:05.35 | brlcad | maybe don't fear the unknown, try to understand it ;) |
| 20:06.06 | Quol | brlcad: feeling philosophical today are we :) |
| 20:06.44 | brlcad | we think therefore we philosophize? |
| 20:06.53 | brlcad | ;) |
| 20:06.59 | Quol | ya - something like that :) |
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| 20:17.04 | Kim^J | Oh yes. |
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| 21:01.08 | orchid | Tupone: ciao :) |
| 21:01.15 | Tupone | hehe |
| 21:01.26 | Tupone | ciao, come stai? |
| 21:01.34 | orchid | good thanks |
| 21:02.10 | Tupone | I miss a lot talking with you :/ you're away lot of time |
| 21:02.29 | orchid | yeah :-\ |
| 21:02.51 | Tupone | when you have time. I need an rsync :) |
| 21:11.18 | ts | Hrm, what is a primary expression in C++? |
| 21:12.05 | brlcad | a "primary expression"? |
| 21:12.25 | brlcad | int i = 1 + 1;? |
| 21:13.05 | Gnurdux | it seems a primary expression is one of the following: |
| 21:13.11 | ts | I'm getting a compiler error and I have no clue what g++ wants :& |
| 21:13.38 | Gnurdux | an expression in parentheses, this, an identifier, or a literal value |
| 21:13.41 | Tupone | ~paste |
| 21:13.52 | ibot | i heard paste is http://rafb.net/paste/ |
| 21:13.53 | Gnurdux | ts, whats the error? |
| 21:14.03 | Tupone | ~bzpaste |
| 21:14.05 | ts | http://bzflag.pastebin.ca/350945 |
| 21:14.20 | ts | yes, yes, pastebin was slow..so I couldn't upload instantly |
| 21:15.04 | Flash | more code please? |
| 21:15.06 | Tupone | but what is at that line? |
| 21:15.27 | Gnurdux | maybe paste your code? |
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| 21:15.44 | ts | wait, pastebin is slow |
| 21:15.52 | Gnurdux | which line is it? |
| 21:15.53 | ts | http://bzflag.pastebin.ca/350950 |
| 21:16.00 | ts | last line causes it |
| 21:16.01 | Gnurdux | ne after the dots/ |
| 21:16.48 | Gnurdux | cheatChecks::doJumpSimulation( player* ) |
| 21:16.52 | Gnurdux | thats the problem |
| 21:16.53 | brlcad | looks like a type error |
| 21:17.03 | Gnurdux | i dunno what you meant by player* |
| 21:17.05 | ts | grmpf |
| 21:17.08 | Gnurdux | i would guess just player |
| 21:17.11 | Flash | remove the ; on line 1 |
| 21:17.36 | Tupone | maybe *player instead of player* |
| 21:17.39 | Flash | or provide a variable on line 7 |
| 21:17.39 | ts | I don't know the correct type :/ |
| 21:18.46 | brlcad | ts: that's a partial snippet .. that semicolon is significant depending on the context |
| 21:19.03 | ts | :/ |
| 21:19.24 | ts | Tupone: with *player I get no operator* for player |
| 21:19.30 | brlcad | show the whole file |
| 21:19.38 | blast007 | heh, nice...someone is running a public server with bots and an increased SR radius... |
| 21:19.55 | Tupone | ah remove the * then |
| 21:19.59 | ts | ok, wait |
| 21:20.51 | ts | brlcad: http://bzflag.pastebin.ca/350955 |
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| 21:22.55 | Flash | line 74: cheatChecks::doJumpSimulation( player ); |
| 21:23.14 | ts | Flash: Then I get just a different error |
| 21:23.32 | Flash | what error? |
| 21:23.39 | ts | also tried without all the * |
| 21:24.04 | Gnurdux | ts, paste the different erro |
| 21:24.24 | Flash | line 73: bz_BasePlayerRecord *player = bz_getPlayerByIndex(playerID); |
| 21:24.48 | Flash | you want a pointer to the player record; you are creating a copy |
| 21:26.00 | ts | That is with no * in line 74: http://bzflag.pastebin.ca/350959 |
| 21:26.11 | Flash | you have to fix 73 too |
| 21:26.47 | ts | That's another prob.. |
| 21:26.55 | Flash | no, they are related |
| 21:27.09 | ts | yes, but can't change there |
| 21:27.15 | Flash | why not? |
| 21:27.17 | Flash | you need to |
| 21:27.19 | ts | Hrm, pastebin is so slow |
| 21:27.40 | ts | If I do *player in line 73: http://bzflag.pastebin.ca/350960 |
| 21:28.30 | Flash | http://bzflag.pastebin.ca/350965 |
| 21:29.55 | Flash | oops ;-) |
| 21:31.35 | ts | Doesn't work, either ;) |
| 21:32.26 | Flash | http://bzflag.pastebin.ca/350973 |
| 21:32.51 | ts | http://bzflag.pastebin.ca/350976 |
| 21:33.48 | Flash | you have to REMOVE the * on bz_getPlayerByIndex |
| 21:34.20 | ts | ahhh |
| 21:34.26 | Flash | 73: # |
| 21:34.31 | ts | now it works - but I have no clue why :/ |
| 21:34.54 | Kim^J | The pictures on bzflag.org are they free to use in a schoolproject? |
| 21:34.56 | Flash | bz_getPlayerByIndex returns a pointer to the player record (bz_BasePlayerRecord*) |
| 21:35.12 | Flash | so you declare 'player' to be of that type |
| 21:35.52 | Flash | cheatChecks::doJumpSimulation takes a bz_BasePlayerRecord* as an argument |
| 21:36.02 | Flash | when the types match, the compiler doesn't complain |
| 21:36.26 | Flash | before, you were creating a copy of the bz_BasePlayerRecord |
| 21:36.48 | Flash | doJumpSimulation didn't know how to convert the record to a pointer to the record |
| 21:37.07 | Kim^J | Anyone? |
| 21:37.43 | Flash | Kim^J: http://bzflag.cvs.sourceforge.net/bzflag/bzflag/COPYING?view=markup ?? |
| 21:38.45 | Flash | Kim^J: copyright © CurrentMaintainer 1993-2007 ?? |
| 21:39.02 | Kim^J | Yes |
| 21:39.08 | Flash | Kim^J: http://bzflag.org/wiki/CurrentMaintainer |
| 21:39.35 | Kim^J | Yes yes I'm reading. |
| 21:40.23 | Kim^J | So I have to ask him about permission to use those pictures then? |
| 21:41.19 | Flash | technically, I would say so |
| 21:41.20 | brlcad | depends on the image, but in general yes |
| 21:41.53 | Kim^J | It the screenshot images in the screenshot section. |
| 21:42.13 | brlcad | ahh |
| 21:42.17 | brlcad | depends on the image then :) |
| 21:42.21 | Kim^J | Hmm |
| 21:42.38 | brlcad | in general, i don't think anyone will mind in the least |
| 21:43.07 | brlcad | and there's a screenshot clause to copyright that allows reproduction for demonstration purposes iirc |
| 21:43.09 | Kim^J | I'm thinking about using those four pictures in Version 1.10 section. |
| 21:44.24 | Kim^J | It |
| 21:44.31 | brlcad | I'd say that falls under fair use |
| 21:44.41 | Kim^J | It's for a review that I do in school. |
| 21:44.48 | ||Wolverine|| | i go to bed |
| 21:44.48 | brlcad | so long as it's used for a purpose of "criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, or research" |
| 21:44.48 | ||Wolverine|| | bye all |
| 21:44.52 | Kim^J | So it's pretty ok to use them then? |
| 21:45.04 | Kim^J | ||Wolverine||: Nite |
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| 21:47.16 | Chestal | hmm, I think only the first 11 images in the 1.8 section are really from 1.8, the others look more like 1.10 to me |
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| 22:06.21 | SportChick | brlcad: if you have a moment, come meet my spanish-speaking feiend? |
| 22:06.29 | SportChick | friend* |
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| 22:11.11 | bz68 | hi |
| 22:11.53 | blast007 | hello |
| 22:11.56 | blast007 | bye |
| 22:16.24 | KTL | :D |
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| 23:02.24 | spldart | woah.. setting up wireless in linux can be as much of a pita as I had heard :-( |
| 23:02.26 | purple_cow | brlcad: ack, you read that? |
| 23:02.40 | purple_cow | brlcad: that's a screenshot from someone's blog |
| 23:03.04 | L4m3r | spldart: depends on your setup |
| 23:03.13 | L4m3r | intel PRO wireless is surprisingly easy |
| 23:03.20 | L4m3r | because they make drivers ;) |
| 23:04.11 | spldart | had to build an rt61 driver for my card... but even though the card says it's good for 2.4 and 2.6 clients I just couldn't get it to build for 2.4... install 2.6 kernel and bam.... setup was a learning curve but I'm running :) |
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| 23:25.56 | SpazzyMcGee | fucking power cord came out and computer went to sleep |
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| 23:26.11 | SpazzyMcGee | what was discussed when i was gone? |
| 23:26.15 | SpazzyMcGee | oops |
| 23:26.18 | SpazzyMcGee | wrong channel |
| 23:26.23 | SpazzyMcGee | *embarrased* |
| 23:29.08 | CBG | /kick SpazzyMcGee bad language!! :P |
| 23:29.18 | SpazzyMcGee | i deserve that |
| 23:32.41 | SpazzyMcGee | sorry all |
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| 23:39.17 | fiberchunks | howdy. refresh my memory -- what's the library that provides gl.h? |
| 23:43.01 | orchid | hi fiberchunks |
| 23:43.57 | orchid | fiberchunks: apt-file says mesa-common-dev and nvidia-glx-dev |
| 23:44.01 | fiberchunks | howdy orchid :) |
| 23:44.07 | fiberchunks | thx |
| 23:44.24 | orchid | your on gentoo I recall? |
| 23:44.38 | fiberchunks | no, this is my dad's computer -- suse 10.0 |
| 23:44.46 | orchid | ah |
| 23:44.58 | fiberchunks | I think I might have to Ubuntu-ize it soon though - this package manager really sucks |
| 23:45.10 | orchid | :) |
| 23:45.39 | CBG | Debian-ize it. |
| 23:46.16 | fiberchunks | I just did some security updates that Suse recommended (via their auto-update tool), and now there's a whole bunch of dependency issues. Why not release the other packages updates if the security updates break things? |
| 23:46.19 | fiberchunks | it's odd |
| 23:46.29 | fiberchunks | CBG, that's why I'll ubuntu-ize it :) |
| 23:47.11 | CBG | ubuntu is just debian anyway, why not be different from all the munchkins that thing Ubuntu == Linux... |
| 23:47.47 | fiberchunks | because ubuntu is a good distro - and thus it doesn't matter |
| 23:48.27 | CBG | Well, imho, It's no different to Debian, but hey - it's your choice. |
| 23:51.03 | L4m3r | debian is said to be more stable |
| 23:51.20 | L4m3r | ubuntu's repos have a lot of unmaintained and unstable stuff in them |
| 23:51.45 | spldart | I've tried both... both are stable but debian is a tad more.. complicated/configurable |
| 23:52.04 | L4m3r | configureability is nice :) |
| 23:52.40 | CBG | "Ubuntu is Debian for Munchkins". There, I said it. |
| 23:53.01 | spldart | yeah... but if your just joe user ubuntu will take care of yah a tad better imo |
| 23:53.02 | fiberchunks | meh, if it works for you, who cares |
| 23:53.05 | spldart | I'm a debian user though |
| 23:54.06 | CBG | I'm just suggesting that just 'cause it works, doesn't mean it's the best option for you and that there's nothing that will work any better. :) |
| 23:54.57 | fiberchunks | well, suse 'just works' but it's package mgmt is asinine -- I like the debian / ubuntu apt-get, synaptic, etc -- but I prefer the Ubuntu support |
| 23:55.40 | CBG | Ok, fair enough. :) |
| 23:56.30 | fiberchunks | although to be fair, I suppose one could use .debs on suse with alien or whatever it's called - but I don't feel like fiddling with it |
| 23:57.07 | fiberchunks | all I know is, installing security updates shouldn't cause the package manage to throw up a bunch of cruft about newly broken dependencies |
| 23:57.23 | fiberchunks | which is why I'm slightly frustrated right now |
| 23:59.29 | L4m3r | I don't think using .debs would help much :P |
| 23:59.38 | fiberchunks | no doubt :) |
| 23:59.53 | Kim^J | Ah use Slack. |
