| 00:00.34 | Erroneous | I think so, just moving the allocation about 12 lines down |
| 00:00.41 | JeffM2501 | cool |
| 00:00.47 | Erroneous | need to check a couple calls and make sure it won't bust something else |
| 00:03.30 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03dtremenak * r14229 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzfs/WorldInfo.cxx: wait until we know how big the world database should be before we alloc it |
| 00:03.34 | Erroneous | that should do it |
| 00:06.36 | AAA_awright | that looks better. Now to wait for make... |
| 00:08.15 | AAA_awright | done |
| 00:09.09 | AAA_awright | Works now :) |
| 00:11.01 | AAA_awright | Cool :) now my segfaulting plugin prints a backtrace :) Thanks, all, Jeff |
| 00:13.34 | AAA_awright | ...and what do you know, it only segfaults when not being debugged. |
| 00:14.13 | JeffM2501 | check your variables, make sure your initalising them before you use them |
| 00:23.42 | Erroneous | valgrind it |
| 00:24.06 | Erroneous | which is partly just an automated way of doing what JeffM2501 suggested :) |
| 00:25.03 | JeffM2501 | plugins are usualy short, so a visual inspection dosn't hurt as a first shot |
| 00:29.22 | AAA_awright | It is random stuff that when compiled as a stand alone program works fine. |
| 00:30.38 | JeffM2501 | is it using any API strings or lists for internal variables? |
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| 00:36.20 | thefirstdude | hey, does anyone know if tadd comes here alot, I would like to talk with him/ |
| 00:36.33 | JeffM2501 | I rarely see him here |
| 00:36.37 | thefirstdude | k |
| 00:36.39 | JeffM2501 | best thing is to send him a BZBB PM |
| 00:36.44 | JeffM2501 | it's like e-mail |
| 00:36.48 | thefirstdude | I'll do that |
| 00:36.51 | CBG | ##tadd |
| 00:37.08 | thefirstdude | tadd ain't even at tadd, lol |
| 00:39.38 | thefirstdude | JeffM2501, I just want you to know, Inferno, thefirstdude, Inferno285, bluewave, it's all the same man |
| 00:39.40 | thefirstdude | it's me |
| 00:39.48 | JeffM2501 | umm ok |
| 00:39.54 | JeffM2501 | I should care why? |
| 00:39.57 | thefirstdude | sry if you hate me |
| 00:40.03 | JeffM2501 | why would I hate you? |
| 00:40.11 | JeffM2501 | I don't even know who you are |
| 00:40.15 | thefirstdude | cause...you have a long term memory? |
| 00:40.46 | JeffM2501 | not really |
| 00:40.59 | JeffM2501 | IIRC you've just come here a couple times and made a fool out of yourself |
| 00:41.03 | brlcad | it all becomes a blur after a while |
| 00:41.03 | JeffM2501 | and that's your own deal |
| 00:41.14 | thefirstdude | I know |
| 00:41.20 | brlcad | unless you live on the channel |
| 00:41.45 | Winny | why not use the name "Inferno"? |
| 00:41.53 | Winny | since you play under that callsign? |
| 00:42.00 | thefirstdude | Jeff, seriously I think your a catalyst or something |
| 00:42.06 | thefirstdude | your the only one like you |
| 00:42.22 | thefirstdude | Winny, think! |
| 00:42.23 | Winny | I am the only one like me as well. |
| 00:42.25 | JeffM2501 | huh? |
| 00:42.35 | thefirstdude | Winny, cause it's already registered |
| 00:42.43 | Winny | me and jeff are soul mates! |
| 00:42.45 | Winny | :p |
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| 00:42.56 | thefirstdude | Winny, that's cool |
| 00:43.46 | JeffM2501 | double huh? |
| 00:43.58 | thefirstdude | yeh, well I'm confused also |
| 00:44.09 | Winny | Jeff: read the past few lines again |
| 00:44.32 | thefirstdude | anyway, I just came here cause I'm looking for tadd |
| 00:44.51 | thefirstdude | downloading skype cause I found his skypename ;) |
| 00:45.05 | thefirstdude | don't tell me your not interested cause I already know... |
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| 00:47.34 | thefirstdude | so, can I ask what the plans for bzflag are? |
| 00:47.56 | donny_baker | to release a new version in the future |
| 00:48.05 | Winny | yes |
| 00:48.06 | thefirstdude | donny_baker, thanks man |
| 00:48.15 | JeffM2501 | we have no fixed plans |
| 00:48.17 | AAA_awright | JeffM2501: It is meteorite's heavily desired mysql plugin. It randomly crashes whenever it connects to a MySQL server now. |
| 00:48.17 | donny_baker | np, anytime I can help |
| 00:48.30 | Winny | donny, can you tie my shoe? |
| 00:48.40 | JeffM2501 | AAA_awright, umm ok, |
| 00:49.06 | AAA_awright | I am starting to think my PHP bot is more stable :) |
| 00:49.24 | thefirstdude | AAA_awright, PHP bot to? |
| 00:49.55 | JeffM2501 | that's one reason I wasn't going to have the CANAdmin stuff do anything direclty to a database |
| 00:49.59 | JeffM2501 | but use HTTP as an interface |
| 00:50.00 | AAA_awright | I have a BZFlag PHP robot that can connect, listen to messages, download the cached world file, etc. |
| 00:50.08 | JeffM2501 | so the backend can change as needed |
| 00:50.36 | KTL | so someone had a php server and now i hear there is also a php client ... :) |
| 00:50.44 | AAA_awright | That was me too |
| 00:50.56 | thefirstdude | a bzflag php server? |
| 00:51.00 | thefirstdude | really? |
| 00:51.12 | KTL | just loading the map i think |
| 00:51.14 | JeffM2501 | it's just network packets |
| 00:51.25 | AAA_awright | Yes. I announced it on april 1st, but it was real. You could sprawn, and it could upload a map to a client. |
| 00:51.38 | thefirstdude | could you fight? |
| 00:51.40 | KTL | no |
| 00:51.41 | AAA_awright | no |
| 00:51.48 | AAA_awright | you couldn't see any one else on, actually |
| 00:51.54 | thefirstdude | oh, what are it's advantages though? |
| 00:52.02 | AAA_awright | and the entire server segfaulted when someone left. |
| 00:52.11 | KTL | hehe |
| 00:52.16 | AAA_awright | That is when I stopped developemt |
| 00:52.30 | KTL | the whole apache got killed? |
| 00:52.33 | thefirstdude | AAA_awright, why php though? |
| 00:52.47 | AAA_awright | It wasn't running with apache, from the shell: php -f bzfs.php |
| 00:53.03 | AAA_awright | Proof-of-concept. Nothing more. |
| 00:53.09 | KTL | cool, i did not know that was possible |
| 00:53.44 | AAA_awright | Possible, won't say stable :p |
| 00:54.05 | JeffM2501 | any language that can do tcp and udp connections can have a bzfs |
| 00:54.08 | KTL | what port does it listen too? or it is no more then an interpreter? |
| 00:54.18 | AAA_awright | http://labs.tssoftware.net/websvn/listing.php?repname=PHP_BZAdmin&path=%2FBZFlag_Info%2F#_BZFlag_Info_ |
| 00:54.35 | AAA_awright | It listens to whatever port you set it to, though the default is 5154 |
| 00:55.17 | thefirstdude | Jeff, may I add...it needs to be able to pack/unpack stuff |
| 00:55.23 | AAA_awright | I didn't try using UDP, it was enough of a nightmare to use TCP alone |
| 00:55.56 | JeffM2501 | thefirstdude, that's just math |
| 00:56.23 | thefirstdude | not if the language doesn't support it |
| 00:56.25 | JeffM2501 | it's not realy a vaild language if it can't do math |
| 00:56.30 | thefirstdude | true |
| 00:56.40 | AAA_awright | php has a nice pack function to use, so my packet reading function was done in 5 lines |
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| 00:57.34 | AAA_awright | though, php has a function for everything :p |
| 00:57.42 | KTL | php classes where only introduced in the latest php iirc |
| 00:58.19 | AAA_awright | It was in PHP 4. PHP 5 has extended support, like private/protected flags for example. |
| 00:58.21 | thefirstdude | AAA-awright, why php when you can use python, perl, ruby or something? |
| 00:58.23 | AAA_awright | and destructors. |
| 00:59.23 | AAA_awright | php bzfs used my BZFlag_Info code bank. I already had the packet reading and writing functions done in that. BZFlag_Info was done in PHP to connect to a BZFlag server in a web page. |
| 01:02.29 | JeffM2501 | or gee.. why not C++.... |
| 01:02.38 | JeffM2501 | there is a python one already |
| 01:03.25 | thefirstdude | or maybe turboPascal? |
| 01:04.02 | JeffM2501 | he did it in php cus he wanted to do it in php, not to make a better server, leave it at that. |
| 01:04.10 | thefirstdude | did |
| 01:04.14 | thefirstdude | ;) |
| 01:04.23 | thefirstdude | bye |
| 01:04.43 | Winny | wooohoo |
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| 02:33.03 | cymon | developers! developers! developers! |
| 02:33.08 | eTangenT | brlcad, you around? |
| 02:33.15 | KTL | panic :D |
| 02:33.38 | cymon | ^C^C^C |
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| 09:15.54 | adeadman | hayelp! my server isn't talking to list server! |
| 09:22.05 | adeadman | ~bzfquery www.manetheran.ath.cx:5154 |
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| 10:28.06 | trepan | not that zizu mod/map tool isn't as good as his bug hunting: step 1. lock it to windows.h |
| 10:28.16 | trepan | ~ww |
| 10:28.28 | ibot | Get a better IRC client |
| 10:29.31 | trepan | sorry, the correct response is: stop drinking so early in the morning |
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| 14:49.44 | brlcad | trepan: hehe |
| 14:51.33 | brlcad | http://www.theopenpress.com/index.php?a=press&id=19537 |
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| 15:43.34 | trepan | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:44.31 | trepan | (and I really hope that don't waste 5 seconds of the pros' time hacking it ;-) |
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| 19:45.18 | wanda | hi, when connecting to tadd.dyndns.org:5188 /Trepans moving stuff ) with a 2.08 client, i get a core dump .. could someone please prove this? |
| 19:48.39 | wanda | pse look: http://pastebin.ca/497332 |
| 20:05.04 | DTRemenak | he has a bad tankradius value |
| 20:05.22 | DTRemenak | specifically "0\n");" |
| 20:17.38 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03dtremenak * r14230 10/branches/v2_0branch/bzflag/src/common/StateDatabase.cxx: eval expressions with mismatched right parens as zero (i.e. ";)", "0\n");", etc, ) |
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| 20:32.11 | wanda | ok .. so you did understand the problem? |
| 20:35.30 | DTRemenak | yup |
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| 20:36.14 | wanda | thanks.. |
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| 20:38.13 | biggeruniverse | good day for bz apparently |
| 20:41.23 | a_meteorite | any specific reason? |
| 20:43.15 | biggeruniverse | lots of players on |
| 20:43.31 | a_meteorite | I don't believe you! |
| 20:43.32 | TD-Linux | now you are making me want to play bzflag |
| 20:43.39 | biggeruniverse | as well you should! |
| 20:43.49 | biggeruniverse | go play! |
| 20:43.55 | biggeruniverse | bump the numbers! |
| 20:43.56 | a_meteorite | it's a trap! |
| 20:44.07 | a_meteorite | ;) |
| 20:44.07 | biggeruniverse | I'm a viral marketing consultant! |
| 20:44.15 | a_meteorite | OK, I believe you now. |
| 20:44.32 | biggeruniverse | Now that you know my credentials? |
| 20:44.40 | TD-Linux | hmm, BZFlag crashes Xorg on this computer after 5 minutes of 2 frames per second |
| 20:44.44 | a_meteorite | Show me your ID |
| 20:44.51 | biggeruniverse | go |
| 20:44.59 | biggeruniverse | and by that I meant goo |
| 20:45.20 | TD-Linux | I'll find a computer |
| 20:45.34 | biggeruniverse | they're everywhere |
| 20:46.07 | a_meteorite | TD-Linux' |
| 20:46.13 | a_meteorite | TD-Linux's computer consumes his room |
| 20:46.33 | biggeruniverse | I consume caffeine |
| 20:46.39 | TD-Linux | actually, only about half this room |
| 20:46.53 | a_meteorite | pfft |
| 20:46.54 | TD-Linux | the computer is small, but it's long thin tentacles encompass the majority of the room |
| 20:47.21 | TD-Linux | especially this card table desk |
| 20:47.39 | a_meteorite | upgrade time |
| 20:48.00 | TD-Linux | :/ |
| 20:48.09 | TD-Linux | no-money-to-upgrade time |
| 20:48.17 | TD-Linux | unless I convince my parents |
| 20:48.26 | TD-Linux | which is actually going along nicely |
| 20:49.21 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03dtremenak * r14232 10/trunk/bzflag/src/common/StateDatabase.cxx: better yet, just throw out the extra right paren |
| 20:49.44 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03dtremenak * r14233 10/branches/v2_0branch/bzflag/src/common/StateDatabase.cxx: better yet, just throw out the extra right paren |
| 20:51.35 | biggeruniverse | better yet, commit once |
| 20:51.38 | biggeruniverse | hee |
| 20:52.16 | DTRemenak | actually committing more frequently is better...that way people can see your thought process |
| 20:52.17 | biggeruniverse | bah. branches are t3h 3\/!1 |
| 20:52.43 | DTRemenak | commit early, commit often |
| 20:52.43 | biggeruniverse | I don't want people to see my thought processes, they will have nightmares |
| 20:54.44 | wanda | dont be afraid .. i ve seen much code that is worse than bzflag |
| 20:55.34 | TD-Linux | like mine? |
| 20:55.57 | biggeruniverse | ahh! bad code! |
| 20:56.03 | wanda | i dont know what code actually is yours .... |
| 20:57.49 | TD-Linux | none yet |
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| 20:57.58 | TD-Linux | not for bzflag, at least |
| 20:58.09 | TD-Linux | I could show you some of my z80 :wicked: |
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| 20:59.04 | wanda | so you are the guy who can reanimate my homebrew z80 modems? |
| 20:59.19 | TD-Linux | AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! |
| 20:59.42 | TD-Linux | if they are homebrew, you should be able to ;) |
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| 21:01.20 | wanda | i am able to handle a soldering tool and erase EEPROMS but not able to fill them with valid code |
| 21:02.14 | TD-Linux | aah |
| 21:02.40 | TD-Linux | I'm not exactly a z80 expert, but I can write simple code |
| 21:04.56 | wanda | does anyone use z80s today? i think they are out |
| 21:05.35 | DTRemenak | TI-8x series calculators |
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| 21:07.59 | TD-Linux | well, all 8x except 89 |
| 21:08.11 | TD-Linux | which is why I know z80 :) |
| 21:08.19 | TD-Linux | and I'm writing a bzflag-ish clone for it right now :P |
| 21:09.07 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03dtremenak * r14234 10/trunk/bzflag/src/common/StateDatabase.cxx: skip excess parens at eval time too (both left and right), prevents crash on unmatched left-parens. |
| 21:10.06 | wanda | lol thats fun :-) :-) |
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| 23:05.39 | Jonty | Where's the best place to get information on the protocol? |
| 23:07.05 | JeffM2501 | the source code |
| 23:07.35 | JeffM2501 | what part of it are you interested in? |
| 23:12.55 | Jonty | mainly right after connection now |
| 23:13.04 | Jonty | getting the map, that sort of thing |
| 23:13.43 | JeffM2501 | for 2.1 or 2.0.x? |
| 23:13.52 | Jonty | 2.0.x, I guess |
| 23:14.08 | JeffM2501 | protocoll.h has the basics in a comment |
| 23:14.13 | JeffM2501 | what goes where and when |
| 23:14.27 | JeffM2501 | tho I don't think the comment is 100% accurate anymore |
| 23:14.50 | JeffM2501 | it's prety simple to follow the messages and pack/unpack on the client tho |
| 23:15.02 | Jonty | sorry? |
| 23:15.20 | Jonty | oh, watch the client interact with the server? |
| 23:15.32 | JeffM2501 | I mean follow the code |
| 23:15.49 | JeffM2501 | you can see what the client does after it joins, and then follow that along |
| 23:16.02 | Jonty | oh right |
| 23:16.17 | Jonty | what'd this be in, net? |
| 23:16.24 | JeffM2501 | c++ |
| 23:16.33 | JeffM2501 | what are you trying to do? |
| 23:17.27 | Jonty | no, I mean which subdirectory? |
| 23:17.41 | JeffM2501 | all over |
| 23:17.49 | JeffM2501 | in 2.1 it's not centralised |
| 23:17.57 | JeffM2501 | it'll start in playing.cxx in the client |
| 23:18.01 | JeffM2501 | src/bzflag |
| 23:18.06 | Jonty | ok, thanks |
| 23:18.14 | JeffM2501 | what are you trying to do? |
| 23:18.22 | Jonty | I'm really just curious right now |
| 23:18.32 | Jonty | as in, no specifc goal |
| 23:18.51 | JeffM2501 | our messaging isn't the best way to do things as we've found out :) |
| 23:19.20 | Jonty | sorry? |
| 23:19.34 | JeffM2501 | nothing |
| 23:19.48 | Jonty | I was being ironic |
| 23:21.29 | JeffM2501 | ahh |
| 23:28.08 | Jonty | ach, screw that for now. BZFlag is far better :-) |
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