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| 07:03.03 | jude- | hello all |
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| 13:57.39 | alex[slx] | hi, I've just downloaded the 2.0.8 src and when I try to run autogen.sh it just gives me errors |
| 13:58.03 | alex[slx] | so I comment out that bit (the argument handling) and then it errors further down? |
| 13:58.17 | alex[slx] | is this a known problem or am I doing something wrong? |
| 13:58.45 | scott | paste the output to a pastebin |
| 13:59.18 | alex[slx] | scott: I just get lots of ": command not found:" |
| 13:59.29 | alex[slx] | and syntax errors everywhere |
| 13:59.31 | scott | which command? |
| 13:59.39 | alex[slx] | it doesn't say |
| 13:59.42 | scott | you are missing some stuff |
| 13:59.43 | alex[slx] | just what I gave you |
| 13:59.46 | alex[slx] | ok |
| 13:59.57 | alex[slx] | what stuff? |
| 14:00.01 | scott | good question |
| 14:00.08 | scott | hrm |
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| 14:01.49 | alex[slx] | scott: should I update all my automake autoheader stuff |
| 14:01.55 | donny_baker | alex[slx]: you really should download from the SVN |
| 14:02.26 | alex[slx] | donny_baker: is that a ./configure; make; make install; job? |
| 14:02.51 | donny_baker | don't know, I've never complied it.. just the 2.0.8 code isn't the newest |
| 14:03.51 | donny_baker | you would want the latest 2.0.x code, i'm guessing |
| 14:03.57 | scott | alex[slx]: http://my.bzflag.org/w/BZFlag_SVN |
| 14:04.15 | donny_baker | and you want the v2_0branch |
| 14:04.23 | donny_baker | svn co https://bzflag.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/bzflag/branches/v2_0branch/bzflag |
| 14:04.28 | alex[slx] | yep |
| 14:04.35 | alex[slx] | I'm reading that on the site right now :D |
| 14:05.25 | donny_baker | alex[slx]: linux, OSX, or windows? |
| 14:05.30 | alex[slx] | linux |
| 14:06.22 | benfish_ | i have set up a BZ server, how can i make it so my config file cannot be viewed by going to the URL? (permissions) |
| 14:07.07 | scott | host it from another directory? |
| 14:07.19 | alex[slx] | benfish_: chmod 700 <file> |
| 14:07.37 | benfish_ | thanks :) |
| 14:09.25 | alex[slx] | donny_baker: where is that now that I've dled it? |
| 14:09.41 | donny_baker | probably in the directory where you were |
| 14:10.07 | alex[slx] | yep lol |
| 14:10.14 | alex[slx] | sorry, I have no idea about svn |
| 14:10.19 | scott | :) |
| 14:11.05 | donny_baker | oh, so you know more than me ;) |
| 14:11.35 | brlcad | you don't have a shell that understands ":"?? |
| 14:12.13 | scott | apparently |
| 14:12.31 | brlcad | i find that hard to believe .. what's your shell and how are you running autogen.sh ? |
| 14:19.26 | brlcad | ":" is the "do nothing" command in posix shell, supported by /bin/sh, bash, zsh, etc -- my initial guess would be maybe you're trying to run autogen.sh through the wrong interpreter, or you downloaded the windows zip file instead of a tarball |
| 14:19.48 | alex[slx] | hmmm |
| 14:19.59 | alex[slx] | maybe... I dl'd via svn and it's all working now |
| 14:20.49 | alex[slx] | anyways, thanks for the help |
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| 14:25.34 | benfish_ | how can i keep bzfs running when i exit shell? |
| 14:26.22 | donny_baker | benfish_: linux? &&bzfs should do it IIRC |
| 14:26.36 | brlcad | benfish_: what do you mean by "exit shell" |
| 14:26.51 | benfish_ | close it |
| 14:26.53 | benfish_ | and yes, linux |
| 14:27.09 | brlcad | you mean close your terminal session? |
| 14:27.18 | benfish_ | yeah |
| 14:27.38 | brlcad | you background it |
| 14:27.48 | brlcad | bzfs & |
| 14:28.02 | brlcad | if you've got a shell that sends it a HUP, you can invoke it through nohup |
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| 14:38.23 | KTL | benfish_, you could run it in a screen session, look at the program screen |
| 14:38.56 | KTL | then you still get output (does the server output?) when you reattach the session |
| 14:40.17 | KTL | it is especially usefull for running software on remote machines (through ssh) |
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| 15:02.35 | daxxar | screen is goodness. |
| 15:03.55 | Chestal | definitely one of the most important and underrated pieces of software in the Unix world |
| 15:05.08 | daxxar | I don't feel it's underrated, at least not to any decent unix admin ;-) |
| 15:05.58 | daxxar | Practice safe ircing - use screen! |
| 15:06.10 | brlcad | underrated in the sense that *way* too many people don't know about it or know how to use it |
| 15:06.23 | brlcad | underutilized |
| 15:06.27 | daxxar | Oh, like that. True. :-) |
| 15:06.32 | daxxar | Their loss :-P |
| 15:06.48 | scott | screen+irssi is awsome |
| 15:06.51 | daxxar | I wonder why it's telling me what brand of printer drivers it's currently installing. |
| 15:07.04 | daxxar | First it was Epson, then Hewlett-Packard, and now Xerox. Why do I care? :-P |
| 15:07.14 | scott | daxxar: its installing them all! |
| 15:07.28 | daxxar | I guess it's "product placement", huhu. ;-P |
| 15:08.54 | JBdiGriz | Because you could turn them all off if you cared enough. |
| 15:09.36 | scott | true, you could have chosen to not install them |
| 15:09.57 | daxxar | Oh, okay. Didn't know that. :-) |
| 15:10.05 | daxxar | First time installing OS X, ;-) |
| 15:10.16 | daxxar | Probably should've, would've cut down installation times a bit, I guess. |
| 15:10.24 | scott | what hardware are you installing it on? |
| 15:10.31 | daxxar | x86 |
| 15:10.44 | scott | mac pro? |
| 15:10.51 | daxxar | Nah, VMWare Workstation :-) |
| 15:10.57 | scott | hehe |
| 15:10.59 | scott | hackintosh |
| 15:11.04 | daxxar | Hehe ;-) |
| 15:11.31 | daxxar | I just need to compile some binaries for the x86 ver of OS X, we haven't got any non-PPC macs in our "build repository". :-) |
| 15:11.36 | scott | daxxar: http://sbender.net/~scott/screenhome.jpg |
| 15:11.45 | scott | that was my hackintosh |
| 15:11.55 | daxxar | Figured it'd be easier to use VMWare than a load of cross-compilation-stuff |
| 15:12.31 | daxxar | Hehe, neat. :-) |
| 15:13.04 | scott | couldnt get agpgart to work, so video was too damn slow |
| 15:13.09 | scott | had to revert back to ubuntu |
| 15:14.07 | daxxar | Ah. :-S |
| 15:14.16 | daxxar | I have like zero experience with mac. :-) |
| 15:14.25 | scott | :o |
| 15:14.37 | scott | you'll love it |
| 15:14.52 | daxxar | hehe |
| 15:15.04 | daxxar | I probably won't use it much, I hear it's a bit painful in VMWare ;) |
| 15:15.32 | scott | have a spare harddrive? |
| 15:15.40 | scott | try to install it on there |
| 15:20.42 | daxxar | That could be an idea |
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| 16:30.04 | TimRiker | GameDesignShare.com is "offering" to host BZFlag docs "for free". Anyone have any experience with them? No real idea from the email of what they would be "offering" |
| 16:31.25 | TimRiker | heh. the home page looks like crap with text overflowing, entry boxes chopped off. not a good first impression. |
| 16:32.34 | donny_baker | requires you to purchase "Video Game Design Pro 2006" ;) |
| 16:33.32 | donny_baker | it's a pitch to get you to shell money out for http://www.thecorpament.com/ |
| 16:33.39 | TimRiker | hehe. ah well. thx. |
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| 17:03.20 | Benfish | hmm, i try open a map in BzEdit, and get this error: http://www.benfish.fishyhost.com/error.bmp any idea how to.. fix that? |
| 17:06.07 | donny_baker | does it have config stuff in it? where is it getting the http:// form? |
| 17:06.30 | Benfish | i have no idea, its the missile map (that ducatiwannabe posted on the forum) |
| 17:06.37 | Erroneous | Benfish: the world has stuff that bzedit can't read |
| 17:06.54 | Benfish | hmm |
| 17:06.58 | Erroneous | specifically a flag zone |
| 17:07.13 | donny_baker | yep, that map has a few of those |
| 17:07.36 | donny_baker | 5 IIRC |
| 17:07.43 | Benfish | how might i be able to open it? (to edit/fiddle with) |
| 17:08.14 | Erroneous | use a text editor |
| 17:13.10 | donny_baker | or wait for the new editor that should be done at the end of the summer |
| 17:17.00 | Benfish | :( |
| 17:18.04 | Erroneous | that should be a :) |
| 17:18.24 | Benfish | :) then :P |
| 17:18.38 | Erroneous | 'cause bzedit is really not the best possible solution :) |
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| 17:18.59 | Benfish | is there another editor? |
| 17:19.31 | donny_baker | not really, that is why we are so excited about the GSOC editor |
| 17:19.40 | scott | TimRiker: is bzflag looking for hosting somewhere? |
| 17:19.42 | Erroneous | there are several. none of them do everything well |
| 17:23.23 | Constitution | http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=10820 |
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| 18:05.21 | donny_baker | ~lart CBG` |
| 18:05.22 | ibot | urinates on CBG` |
| 18:05.28 | donny_baker | rofl |
| 18:05.31 | Benfish | o.o |
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| 18:13.53 | Daveman | BIZFLOG |
| 18:37.23 | ts | ~seen trepan |
| 18:38.15 | ibot | trepan <n=trepan@unaffiliated/trepan> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 3d 20h 12m 49s ago, saying: 'you should submit a request to O.E.D. for 'dekerberosization''. |
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| 18:43.15 | rob1n | ahaha "dekerberosization" |
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| 19:29.12 | TimRiker | scott: huh? bzflag is hosted somewhere. :) there are tons of servers, I hoped to get working on list server redundancy sometime. I have a ISP that will host for me for free, but I don't have a free rack mount box atm. |
| 19:29.28 | TimRiker | ~seen crs32 |
| 19:30.43 | ibot | i haven't seen 'crs32', TimRiker |
| 19:32.44 | scott | TimRiker: just responding to your comment about GameDesignShare.com... was going to offer a shell account on my virtual server if you needed it. |
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| 19:49.29 | JeffM | TimRiker, you can ge a host for a reduntandt list, simple, you just need the tech to do it. |
| 19:50.02 | JeffM | IIRC brlcad got a geman server like .bz that he intented to use as a list server. |
| 19:50.51 | Benfish_ | someone /kill'd me? o.O |
| 19:52.07 | brlcad | yep, there's a new server just sitting over there with even better bandwidth/networking |
| 19:56.31 | JeffM | that boy is a pizza disposal MACHINE! |
| 19:56.42 | Erroneous | especially free pizza |
| 19:56.45 | JeffM | how many did you have? |
| 19:57.22 | Erroneous | I'm gonna say 10, but I might be off by two either direction |
| 19:57.50 | TimRiker | scott: oh. thx, but we're ok. there are more active servers than active players these days. |
| 19:58.33 | Erroneous | ~bzflist |
| 19:58.39 | TimRiker | JeffM: yeah, once I find a rack mount box, I'll get a real host up at xmission. |
| 19:58.51 | JeffM | TimRiker, I'm saying you have a host you can use |
| 19:58.55 | JeffM | right now |
| 19:58.55 | Erroneous | hm, the server count keeps going up, but the players count doesn't change :) |
| 19:59.18 | Erroneous | JeffM: three is better than two? :) |
| 19:59.19 | TimRiker | JeffM: hmm. I'd like a debian box I can get root on. :) |
| 19:59.22 | JeffM | TimRiker, if you get the replicated list code working, you can have it hosted a couple places |
| 19:59.29 | TimRiker | true that. |
| 19:59.30 | JeffM | ahh, so THATs it |
| 19:59.33 | JeffM | thought so |
| 19:59.38 | JeffM | well good luck |
| 19:59.40 | Erroneous | and a bit of extra heterogeny never hurt |
| 19:59.53 | TimRiker | yeah, it's happening, just slowly. |
| 20:00.04 | Erroneous | though I don't know what brlcad decided to put on the german box |
| 20:00.07 | JeffM | yeah, there are a number of servers who would do it, fewer that would do debian |
| 20:00.14 | brlcad | the .de box could run debian too, tis why I asked what folks wanted |
| 20:00.30 | JeffM | install debian on a VM for him :) |
| 20:00.32 | brlcad | the prevailing preference seemed to be not linux, though |
| 20:00.45 | TimRiker | so what did it get? *bsd? |
| 20:00.56 | brlcad | it's not been set up, it's just sitting there right now |
| 20:01.11 | TimRiker | well, what was the prevailing opinion? |
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| 20:01.42 | brlcad | was to put a bsd, but it wasn't *really* strong either way |
| 20:01.50 | brlcad | nobody has any religion about it |
| 20:02.02 | brlcad | at least as far as it was openly discussed so far |
| 20:02.15 | uso | Erroneous: but the number of server hosts decreases |
| 20:02.17 | Erroneous | only thing I'd oppose terribly strongly is windows ;) |
| 20:02.26 | brlcad | heh, were there was that consensus :) |
| 20:02.31 | uso | half of all bzflag servers run on 5 hosts ;) |
| 20:02.33 | brlcad | s/were/well/ |
| 20:05.02 | TimRiker | well, I could likely make progress on any other *nix box, but I know the debian tools/env better. |
| 20:05.36 | TimRiker | I keep up to date on needed patches etc. there. |
| 20:06.03 | JeffM | the distributed list server is going to be that OS dependent? |
| 20:14.26 | JeffM | well I don't want them to burn |
| 20:14.46 | JeffM | but I'd like to pass burning compressed alcholl over them :) |
| 20:14.56 | brlcad | heh, harsh e-mail (but probably well-deserved) |
| 20:15.12 | JeffM | ? |
| 20:15.23 | brlcad | tim's reply |
| 20:17.37 | donny_baker | JeffM: for how long... cause they will catch especially on the edges of the bumps/knobs |
| 20:17.52 | JeffM | I'd have it paded with the smooth ones |
| 20:18.07 | JeffM | I think I'll just go with computer fans and PVC :) |
| 20:18.10 | brlcad | anyone have any good research papers on 2D packing problems (in particular, packing a set of concave images closely together) |
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| 21:38.42 | CBG` | Wow, bad day... Not only do I have to sit through that 4 week film about boats and nasty people with eye-patches... but I also get urinated on by ibot. |
| 21:40.06 | tannerld | 4 week? |
| 21:40.41 | JeffM | 3 hour |
| 21:41.22 | JeffM | wonder who forced him to go see the movie |
| 21:41.29 | Winny | CBG: Went to see POTC? |
| 21:41.46 | CBG` | "friends" JeffM. I can get you a definition if you would like. |
| 21:41.59 | Winny | friend? :o |
| 21:42.08 | JeffM | heh, I'm sure they forced you at gunpoint too |
| 21:42.11 | Erroneous | dude, if your friends go to see a movie you don't think you'll like, you don't have to go with them |
| 21:42.13 | CBG` | And yes, not 4 weeks - again, I can get a definition for those that want it - 2 hours 40. |
| 21:42.27 | CBG` | I thought I would like, and actually, it was fair. |
| 21:42.34 | CBG` | But was sure as heck too long. |
| 21:42.48 | JeffM | short movies are pointless |
| 21:42.51 | Winny | Kinda like Spider Man 3 |
| 21:43.17 | CBG` | Plus, it wasn't just "going to a movie", last day ever at that college... |
| 21:43.19 | CBG` | Spiderman3 was not as long... and was better anyway. |
| 21:43.35 | Winny | it was about 2:30ish |
| 21:43.41 | Winny | I timed it, |
| 21:43.46 | CBG` | And, the length of a film has no relevance to the quality of it, imho. |
| 21:43.49 | CBG` | 2:20, Winny. |
| 21:44.01 | Winny | ah, yes, I must have added in the credits |
| 21:44.18 | JeffM | the 30 min of previews I could do with out |
| 21:46.16 | Winny | Or the 2 min of "OMFG WE HAVE DOLBE DIGITAL... lets make an animation about it!" |
| 21:46.36 | JeffM | I don't mind that so much |
| 21:46.40 | JeffM | cus that's a one shot |
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| 23:19.43 | eTangenT | ~lart CBG` |
| 23:19.43 | ibot | executes killall -KILL CBG` |
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| 23:38.19 | AAA_awright | Who keeps killing ibot? |
| 23:38.29 | JeffM | god |
| 23:38.39 | AAA_awright | hm. |
| 23:38.40 | AAA_awright | ~shoot ibot |
| 23:38.42 | ibot | ACTION shoots ibot in the eye with a cork gun! |
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| 23:50.55 | Winny | someone needs to lock that 'admins master kenobi" thread... 2 pages of nothing |
| 23:53.28 | Winny | gosh, even got rid of that? |
| 23:53.29 | Erroneous | Winny: hardly nothing |
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