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| 00:05.24 | tannerld | passable works for normal objects :) |
| 00:05.55 | CBG | ;) |
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| 00:19.18 | donny_baker | tannerld: normal objects are rendered as meshes automatically if any 2.0 mesh property is used on it, IIRC |
| 00:19.25 | tannerld | ah - ok |
| 00:19.25 | tannerld | thanks :) |
| 00:19.47 | donny_baker | in fact I was told they render faster as meshes, so for performance it is good to add a 2.0 property to regular object |
| 00:20.12 | tannerld | heh |
| 00:20.15 | tannerld | nifty :) |
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| 04:15.24 | brlcad | quine: if you're interested, there are both big and "small" projects that you could tackle -- the gsoc ones are mostly "big" projects (scoped to about 2 months of _non-stop_ work) |
| 04:17.24 | brlcad | JeffM: pong and no I don't think you ever did iirc, but I wouldn't bet money |
| 04:18.14 | brlcad | AWOSLappy: the International Rescue Committee is just another one of the popular meanings for IRC (try a search for IRC, it'll come up) |
| 04:18.53 | brlcad | Suspect: I figured as much (responding to the comment earlier -- i had to run off) |
| 04:20.06 | findlay | heh, brlcad catches up |
| 04:20.06 | findlay | that reminds me |
| 04:20.12 | JeffM | brlcad, no I didn't but where did you have to add the hooks to get the font system to regenerate on a context free/renew? |
| 04:20.26 | JeffM | I have a display list manager, but it'd need a hook into that |
| 04:21.13 | brlcad | findlay: anything interesting? |
| 04:21.43 | brlcad | JeffM: ah, I had a window resize event in my test app |
| 04:21.50 | brlcad | I added the rebuild in there |
| 04:22.05 | JeffM | ahh |
| 04:22.06 | brlcad | happened after the window resized and opengl was reset |
| 04:22.34 | JeffM | BZ has those wierd context invlaidated callback things |
| 04:23.07 | JeffM | oh well |
| 04:23.10 | brlcad | yeah, though I wasn't using those |
| 04:23.35 | findlay | brlcad: something I showed to TimRiker a couple of years ago that he wanted to add to BZFlag, though I never got around to finishing it :) |
| 04:23.44 | Suspect | brlcad: ah ok |
| 04:23.48 | JeffM | the radar could be speed up if each object's geometry was slaped into a list |
| 04:24.02 | findlay | at the least I can host it on my own site |
| 04:24.06 | brlcad | the BzfWindow->create() call is what rebinds the context after a BzfWindow->resize() .. so I just called the FontManager->rebuild() after that create() call |
| 04:24.39 | brlcad | findlay: that scares me for some reason :) |
| 04:24.46 | findlay | heh |
| 04:26.04 | brlcad | findlay: so going to keep it a secret or can you describe it directly? :) |
| 04:27.21 | findlay | brlcad: http://jfindlay.us/bzmaze-0.2.tar.bz2 if you want to check it out. It doesn't compile under gcc-4 series because of the templates which is the main thing I need to fix |
| 04:27.40 | findlay | basically it just generates random maze worlds |
| 04:28.07 | findlay | I haven't touched it in almost 2 years though |
| 04:28.29 | brlcad | aha |
| 04:28.32 | brlcad | i remember that |
| 04:28.36 | findlay | really? |
| 04:28.38 | brlcad | yup |
| 04:28.42 | findlay | hm |
| 04:29.04 | brlcad | i don't remember you talking to tim much about it actually, maybe just a couple comments |
| 04:29.12 | brlcad | he'd already phased out |
| 04:29.28 | brlcad | anyways, no matter |
| 04:29.38 | brlcad | nifty idea if done well ;) |
| 04:29.46 | findlay | so he doesn't commit much anymore (if at all)? |
| 04:30.01 | brlcad | add that with dynamic walls and you could implement something like Labrynth :) |
| 04:30.08 | findlay | seems like he's moved on |
| 04:30.31 | findlay | yeah, it's not much more than a nifty hack |
| 04:30.57 | brlcad | his last "real" commit was about two years ago and it was relatively limited |
| 04:32.18 | findlay | TimRiker is a very talented computer guy |
| 04:32.35 | findlay | and he's done just about everything :-) |
| 04:32.58 | JeffM | you gonna be able to dig your way from way up in there? |
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| 04:33.35 | brlcad | heh |
| 04:35.56 | findlay | I wish TI didn't stop the project he was working on there. He was working on a calculator/computer that ran a fully open source stack |
| 04:36.37 | brlcad | yeah, according to ohloh he's not done anything with bzflag for two and a half years now, since december of 2004 |
| 04:37.47 | brlcad | huh, and our subversion repo is still not indexing |
| 04:37.47 | JeffM | he's prety much out of it |
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| 06:32.45 | brlcad | support request in to ohloh to fix our stats |
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| 08:06.28 | LongDon | hatte ich mir aber auch gedacht :) |
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| 09:54.00 | tupone | hola brlcad |
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| 10:31.05 | jftsang | hi |
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| 11:47.09 | ts | ~bzfquery brad.bz:5154 |
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| 12:10.24 | jftsang | ~bzflag |
| 12:10.26 | ibot | bzflag is, like, a 3D internet multiplayer multiplatform (win32, linux, mac, etc) opensource opengl Battlezone capture the flag game of the same name that you must try at http://BZFlag.org/ or a continual development project with periodic gaming interuptions. See also TimRiker |
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| 12:30.22 | eTangenT | yo lodxcol |
| 12:30.36 | lodxcol | hiya eTangenT |
| 12:39.45 | jftsang | what happened to all of tedius's servers on userbin.net? |
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| 12:46.41 | the_j0k3r | #bzchat |
| 12:46.43 | the_j0k3r | sry |
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| 13:43.05 | KTL | is there no graph visualization software using self organizing maps? |
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| 14:31.52 | Winny | charg is suppostly 14 |
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| 16:52.34 | JeffM | brlcad, or DTRemenak ping? |
| 16:52.37 | JeffM | svn hates me |
| 16:53.54 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r14426 10/trunk/bzflag/src/common/bzfio.cxx: need common if we went to use fancy printf stuff |
| 16:56.54 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r14427 10/trunk/bzflag/src/common/ (Makefile.am bzsignal.c bzsignal.cxx): can't have C files that include headers that have C++ code, strict C compilers don't like it ( VC 7.1 ) C will compile in C++ so make the files be C++ |
| 16:59.59 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r14428 10/trunk/bzflag/MSVC/VC71/common.vcproj: can't have C files that include headers that have C++ code, strict C compilers don't like it ( VC 7.1 ) C will compile in C++ so make the files be C++ |
| 17:01.07 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r14429 10/trunk/bzflag/MSVC/VC71/bzflag.vcproj: missing hud files |
| 17:04.44 | brlcad | pongo |
| 17:05.31 | JeffM | svn on sf wouldn't let me rename a file |
| 17:05.36 | JeffM | got a forboden |
| 17:05.47 | JeffM | ended up deleteing and readding |
| 17:05.58 | brlcad | huh, wierd |
| 17:06.06 | JeffM | it had no history other then the date |
| 17:06.09 | brlcad | maybe it just missed you |
| 17:06.10 | JeffM | so nothing was lost |
| 17:06.15 | JeffM | it let me do other stuff |
| 17:06.37 | JeffM | bzsignal can't be a .c file cus it includes c++ in it's header |
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| 17:08.52 | brlcad | that probably explains other linkage issues some other folks were having |
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| 17:11.43 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r14430 10/trunk/bzflag/ (8 files in 3 dirs): OpenGLDisplayList wasn't used, and didn't provide any real automated functionality. Add the openGLUtils from GPx01 for a more C++ style callback oriented type of list management. |
| 17:12.49 | JeffM | with that you can just register a callback function that generates the geometry for a list, and it'll be called automaticly whenever needed ( first shot, and on any context invalidates ) |
| 17:13.16 | JeffM | and it minimises the lists in memory to only those used since the last context update |
| 17:24.26 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03t-s * r14431 10/branches/v2_0branch/bzflag/ (include/MeshObstacle.h src/bzflag/RadarRenderer.cxx): Use the mesh position and heigth to render colour in radar rather than using face position and heigth |
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| 18:31.14 | jftsang | plz tell tedius to PM me when he comes on |
| 18:34.39 | JeffM | why don't you just send him a PM on the fourms? |
| 18:35.07 | jftsang | k |
| 18:35.27 | jftsang | was wondering where all his servers had gone |
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| 18:59.27 | JeffM | man.. this radar rendering code consolodates way the heck down |
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| 19:22.24 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r14432 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzflag/ (RadarRenderer.cxx RadarRenderer.h): redo the "non fast" radar to precompute all the objects and slam them into lists, also only do one color for all of a mesh object. |
| 19:23.33 | TD-Linux | w00t for the one color! |
| 19:23.41 | JeffM | someone(tm) could also use that to depth sort them if they wanted to |
| 19:24.28 | JeffM | or optimise it further and make each list call just draw a textured version of the object since it's static |
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| 19:24.48 | jude- | hello all |
| 19:24.51 | a_meteorite | hi jude- |
| 19:32.19 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r14433 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzflag/RadarRenderer.cxx: add comments with suggestions for optimizations. |
| 19:33.14 | JeffM | ts, that version should be a little more clear to you I hope |
| 19:33.36 | JeffM | I broke up the drawing and stuff, into sub functions |
| 19:35.41 | JeffM | and someone may want to test it vs the old ( 2.0.x ) radar code |
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| 20:17.42 | ts | JeffM: It does not built |
| 20:18.31 | bryjen | it almost does. i'm working on it |
| 20:18.40 | ts | ttp://bzflag.pastebin.ca/597768 |
| 20:19.28 | ts | Hrm, where did the h go? |
| 20:22.24 | ts | Why is the error in TCP code? sigh |
| 20:28.56 | brlcad | sigh? |
| 20:30.36 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03bryjen * r14434 10/trunk/bzflag/ (6 files in 3 dirs): be more (case) sensitive |
| 20:34.04 | ts | brlcad: I hate that kind of error messages. Erroring out in system TCP headers instead on the gl stuff |
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| 20:52.27 | ts | bryjen: Does it work for you now? |
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| 21:02.56 | bryjen | yes |
| 21:03.10 | ts | still errors for me |
| 21:03.20 | brlcad | it's os x specific |
| 21:03.32 | ts | great :( |
| 21:03.46 | brlcad | ts: that may be the case, but that doesn't mean you can't just track the error like any other |
| 21:04.14 | ts | brlcad: Well, I need a line...so I have a start |
| 21:04.22 | brlcad | you do have a line |
| 21:04.36 | ts | Yeah in my system headers |
| 21:04.44 | ts | Not where it gets called |
| 21:04.46 | brlcad | so you have a start |
| 21:04.52 | brlcad | there's no "call" |
| 21:05.02 | brlcad | it's just a compilation error |
| 21:05.14 | brlcad | figure it out instead of whining :P |
| 21:05.57 | ts | The error message says nothing to me except "it just doesn't work" |
| 21:06.09 | brlcad | then maybe shut it and wait for someone else to fix it since you're really not helping |
| 21:06.21 | brlcad | that error says a lot more than that |
| 21:06.40 | brlcad | and you have perfect commit history that you can trace back through |
| 21:07.35 | ts | I was only asking whether it works for him, no complaining.. |
| 21:12.06 | brlcad | well it certainly looks like complaining to me -- not trying to be hard on you but it's something several folks have got in the habit of doing |
| 21:12.22 | brlcad | habits and comments that aren't particularly constructive or helpful |
| 21:14.00 | brlcad | you don't even have to understand the error to undo the last N commits one at a time to find the one that causes the error |
| 21:14.08 | brlcad | that's a starting point |
| 21:15.12 | brlcad | otherwise, if you look at the line in that file, it's on a TCP_NODELAY enum and the error says there's syntax error before constant -- which would be the case if TCP_NODELAY was already defined (to a numeric constant) |
| 21:15.54 | brlcad | and that's a header, so that should point you in the direction of checking recent header changes or existing header orderings in playing.cxx |
| 21:17.00 | ts | Well, I know it worked at r14431 and there was no playing.cxx change since then as far as I see |
| 21:17.55 | brlcad | a change to any header that playing.cxx includes or any header that a header includes is inherintly still a change to playing.cxx |
| 21:18.15 | ts | oh |
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| 21:18.18 | brlcad | so one thing you can try is to turn on g++ header processing debugging |
| 21:18.36 | ts | I never heard of that before |
| 21:19.06 | brlcad | man g++ is a wealth of knowledge |
| 21:19.09 | ts | I think RadarRenderer.h must be causing it |
| 21:22.38 | TD-Linux | brlcad, I see your location truly is not lying :P |
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| 21:23.16 | brlcad | TD-Linux: hm? |
| 21:23.25 | TD-Linux | the one on the forum |
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| 21:24.20 | brlcad | TD-Linux: erm.. should it? |
| 21:25.33 | TD-Linux | nevermind me |
| 21:25.38 | brlcad | I don't mind folks knowing where I'm at, it's not hard to find out regardless (for anyone) if you try hard enough |
| 21:26.04 | TD-Linux | oh, oops I think I might have gotten you confused with someone else |
| 21:26.09 | TD-Linux | what is your bzflag callsign? |
| 21:29.55 | brlcad | who did you think I was? |
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| 21:51.33 | jftsang | hi |
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| 23:06.09 | JeffM | so what can't OSX do now? |
| 23:06.23 | Winny | Right click ;) |
| 23:06.30 | a_meteorite | ctrl+click |
| 23:06.37 | Winny | I KNOW |
| 23:06.38 | Winny | :p |
| 23:06.39 | JeffM | I mean with the bz code |
| 23:07.36 | JeffM | I didn't even change playing, did I? |
| 23:08.15 | JeffM | man, tires are a lot harder to put on then take off :/ |
| 23:08.19 | JeffM | I should say wheels |
| 23:08.38 | Winny | was going to say... tires are hard to do both ways :p |
| 23:09.15 | JeffM | naw, you can cut em off, you can't cut em on :) |
| 23:09.26 | Winny | Oh, you can |
| 23:12.22 | brlcad | JeffM: i'm looking at it, just some header foo |
| 23:12.44 | JeffM | cus of my changes? |
| 23:28.38 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * r14435 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzflag/RadarRenderer.cxx: quell unused var warnings |
| 23:28.58 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * r14436 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzflag/RadarRenderer.h: label |
| 23:30.09 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * r14437 10/trunk/bzflag/include/OpenGLUtils.h: header cleanup, opengl headers are encapsulated into bzfgl.h |
| 23:31.51 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * r14438 10/trunk/bzflag/include/OpenGLUtils.h: header footer cleanup |
| 23:34.38 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * r14439 10/trunk/bzflag/include/OpenGLUtils.h: ws |
| 23:36.57 | TD-Linux | w00t ws |
| 23:46.00 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * r14440 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzflag/ (RadarRenderer.cxx RadarRenderer.h): more ws and header cleanup |
| 23:48.07 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * r14441 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzflag/RadarRenderer.cxx: oop, save the file first |
| 23:52.54 | JeffM | ahh I wonderd if the dupe GL includes would muss up |
| 23:53.18 | JeffM | in GPx01 the file is called OpenGL.h so I just include that everywhere I want GL and get all the uitls |
| 23:54.31 | JeffM | hopefully the display list system should be easier to use for everyone, instead of all uses of lists having to handle there own context updates |