| 00:16.07 | TD-Linux | wow, so fitting |
| 00:17.34 | Winny | indeed |
| 00:17.48 | TheRedBaron | any advice? |
| 00:17.54 | TD-Linux | linksys |
| 00:18.28 | TheRedBaron | says the man with linux in his callsign :) |
| 00:19.45 | TheRedBaron | my competence does not extend to firmware modding :) |
| 00:21.04 | Winny | Linksys linksys linksys |
| 00:21.20 | TheRedBaron | i've used linksys and d-link |
| 00:21.28 | Winny | seriously, I had a d-link and some other brand and they kinda... sucked. |
| 00:21.41 | Winny | They'd randomly turn off |
| 00:22.11 | TD-Linux | I've heard bad things about netgear |
| 00:22.11 | Winny | lucker |
| 00:24.58 | Winny | netgear... thats what it was |
| 00:30.08 | TheRedBaron | heh, gigabit is overrated |
| 00:35.12 | CBG | I thought netgear == linksys |
| 00:49.57 | blast007 | CBG: not even close |
| 00:50.34 | CBG | eh |
| 00:53.21 | daxxar | CBG: Nah, they're not related. :-) |
| 00:53.50 | daxxar | OTOH, Linksys == Cisco |
| 00:58.10 | blast007 | I wouldn't even go that far ;) the products don't compare... Cisco *owns* Linksys |
| 00:59.49 | Macrosoft | a wrt54g isnt too bad... it refused to forward ports at first, but has worked fine since |
| 01:00.37 | Macrosoft | not that i need it to, my server's been down for a while |
| 01:00.46 | blast007 | the new ones of the wrt54g aren't as good |
| 01:01.21 | TD-Linux | wrt54gl is teh pwn |
| 01:01.30 | TD-Linux | I have an old wrt54g |
| 01:01.31 | blast007 | yup |
| 01:01.36 | blast007 | I have two of the old ones ;) |
| 01:01.38 | Macrosoft | "good"? if you want something good, you need a high-end router |
| 01:01.40 | TD-Linux | so it's got the full 4MB |
| 01:01.47 | blast007 | Macrosoft: I said "as good" |
| 01:01.52 | blast007 | Macrosoft: try to read |
| 01:01.52 | TD-Linux | you need a dedicated linux router box |
| 01:01.57 | TD-Linux | *gateway |
| 01:02.03 | TD-Linux | and then a switch connected to that. |
| 01:02.38 | Macrosoft | gateway + more features = router |
| 01:03.18 | Macrosoft | more features = port forwarding + port triggering + etc. |
| 01:03.25 | blast007 | Macrosoft: a gateway is just another name for a router |
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| 01:07.28 | TD-Linux | router usually implies a built in switch |
| 01:12.06 | blast007 | the "gateways" I'm finding typically have a 4 port switch |
| 01:12.39 | Winny | hmm, you know where you can get a router with a built in usb port? |
| 01:13.00 | Winny | I know apple does it, but they're really expensive |
| 01:13.47 | blast007 | USB port for attaching a hard drive? or for connecting it to a computer? |
| 01:13.49 | JeffM | that's more common in modems then routers |
| 01:14.10 | Winny | Attaching printer/network drive |
| 01:14.20 | Winny | I guess I could just get a print server, tho |
| 01:14.38 | JeffM | thats a NAS |
| 01:14.47 | blast007 | http://www.dlink.com/products/?pid=390 |
| 01:14.52 | JeffM | a NAS built into a Nat Router? |
| 01:15.09 | Winny | ooh, thanks blast007 |
| 01:15.32 | blast007 | though the last time I tried even a true NAS from D-Link, it sucked |
| 01:16.06 | blast007 | it had a gigabit port, yet it wasn't even hitting speeds of 10mbit |
| 01:16.17 | JeffM | there are a lot of crap NAS systems |
| 01:16.32 | blast007 | and the best part is that it didn't even WORK out of the box |
| 01:16.39 | blast007 | I had to flash the firmware just to get it to do anything |
| 01:17.02 | Winny | rofl |
| 01:17.12 | blast007 | the web interface was literally not even fully functional |
| 01:17.19 | blast007 | and it didn't have any sharing abilities |
| 01:17.32 | daxxar | Hm |
| 01:17.40 | daxxar | Wow, my local bzrobots had a lot of mods |
| 01:17.50 | daxxar | Perhaps I should commit them before I shut down for the night. :-) |
| 01:18.03 | L4m3r | I need a good, fast (on the WAN side, 10/100 LAN is fine), configurable wired router. Suggestions? :) |
| 01:20.13 | blast007 | depends what you mean by "fast on the WAN side" |
| 01:20.30 | blast007 | routers are going to be able to keep up with most broadband connections |
| 01:20.45 | L4m3r | dorm internet is not "most broadband connections" |
| 01:20.49 | blast007 | ah, hehe |
| 01:20.57 | L4m3r | if I'm limited to 10mbps that's gonna be a problem :P |
| 01:22.57 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03daxxar * r14456 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzrobots/ (10 files): |
| 01:22.57 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: Don't clamp w/ MAXFLOAT, std::max() instead. |
| 01:22.57 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: Moved more generic functionality into RCLink, specific only in RCLinkBackend. |
| 01:22.57 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: We now check for isnan() in RCRequest::parseFloat() |
| 01:22.57 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: RCRequest::parseFloat() & RCRequest::clamp() are now public and static (Why weren't they? Silly me). |
| 01:23.00 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: Moved common functionality for RCRequest and RCReply to RCMessage, and they now inherit from it. |
| 01:23.02 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: Added RCLinkFrontend, and connect()-functionality to RCLink. (NOTE: This is not added to Makefile.am, because it depends on the not-yet-written RCReply) |
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| 01:24.14 | QuantumBeep | If ./configure tells me that my "compiler is unable to create binary files", what am I likely to be doing wrong? |
| 01:25.10 | daxxar | What platform are you on? |
| 01:25.27 | QuantumBeep | Ubuntu |
| 01:25.30 | daxxar | Also, check config.log (or paste it) |
| 01:25.37 | daxxar | Try sudo aptitude install build-essential |
| 01:25.48 | QuantumBeep | ok |
| 01:25.49 | daxxar | I.e. paste it via a service like http://rafb.net/paste/ |
| 01:25.52 | brad | 'apt-get install g++' should fix that |
| 01:26.11 | brad | I had exactly the same problem earlier ) |
| 01:26.23 | daxxar | build-essential is better :-) |
| 01:26.32 | daxxar | It pulls in a few other useful packages too. |
| 01:26.46 | brad | ahh |
| 01:28.06 | QuantumBeep | Holy wow, I'm rightly impressed by this. |
| 01:28.22 | daxxar | What're you impressed by? |
| 01:28.40 | QuantumBeep | Last time I used Linux, I had to collect RPMs by hand |
| 01:29.02 | daxxar | Ah. Well, you're finally using a decent distro. ;-) |
| 01:29.10 | daxxar | I'm a personal fan of Ubuntu and Debian |
| 01:33.42 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03daxxar * r14457 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzrobots/RCMessage.h: Whoopsie, this important file was missing. ;-) |
| 01:35.50 | Macrosoft | is there such a thing as the "best linux distro"? |
| 01:36.13 | Winny | thats a personal preference |
| 01:36.26 | Macrosoft | then lets vote on it |
| 01:36.47 | Macrosoft | im just wondering because i am considering changing distro's |
| 01:36.58 | donny_baker | you vote on it and keep the results to yourself |
| 01:37.00 | Winny | what are you running? |
| 01:37.01 | daxxar | What're you running? |
| 01:37.05 | Macrosoft | mandriva |
| 01:37.09 | JeffM | ubuntu |
| 01:37.12 | Winny | hmm... I;d try ubuntu |
| 01:37.17 | donny_baker | ubuntu here |
| 01:37.17 | Winny | bah jeff |
| 01:37.29 | blast007 | slackware |
| 01:37.31 | blast007 | ;) |
| 01:37.32 | daxxar | Windows Update sucks so bad. |
| 01:37.38 | L4m3r | nubuntu! :P |
| 01:37.41 | Macrosoft | whats the big difference between the distros |
| 01:37.48 | daxxar | "Some updates could not be installed" |
| 01:38.00 | daxxar | YEAH, PLEASE JUST HIDE ANY INFORMATION THAT COULD HELP ME DEBUG IT. |
| 01:38.02 | JeffM | ubuntu is the best stuported, simplest to use distro |
| 01:38.16 | L4m3r | though for some reason my installations of Lenny keep breaking :( |
| 01:38.20 | JeffM | for people who don't like to dig |
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| 01:38.41 | L4m3r | Debian is pretty close (saven for installation, maybe) and more stable |
| 01:38.42 | Macrosoft | whats the name of the newest version of ubuntu? |
| 01:38.50 | tannerld | Fiesty |
| 01:38.56 | JeffM | www.ubuntu.com |
| 01:38.58 | daxxar | Feisty Fawn |
| 01:39.07 | Macrosoft | what kind of naming system is that? |
| 01:39.08 | blast007 | Macrosoft: they're coming out fo 7.10 relatively soon I think |
| 01:39.14 | blast007 | it's in beta |
| 01:39.14 | JeffM | see, he dosn't like to dig ;) |
| 01:39.23 | daxxar | 7.04 if you're boring. |
| 01:39.23 | JeffM | Macrosoft, it's the one they use |
| 01:39.32 | tannerld | Macrosoft: better than "Vista" or "XP" :P |
| 01:39.45 | blast007 | or "98" |
| 01:40.04 | Macrosoft | *gasp* you said the "V" word |
| 01:40.20 | QuantumBeep | Macrosoft: for real fun, try Windows Millennium. |
| 01:40.28 | QuantumBeep | It'll give you an idea what to expect from Vista. |
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| 01:40.49 | Macrosoft | heh, ive already had to deal with ME before |
| 01:40.58 | blast007 | QuantumBeep: aww, that's unfair... Vista only crashes half as much |
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| 01:41.11 | L4m3r | ME is the most secure Windows ever! |
| 01:41.19 | Macrosoft | i made sure i completely destroyed the ME disc |
| 01:41.21 | Winny | haha |
| 01:41.22 | L4m3r | it crashes before any malware can take hold ;) |
| 01:41.34 | blast007 | L4m3r: I fully agree with that |
| 01:41.35 | QuantumBeep | A computer that doesn't run is the most perfect system available. |
| 01:41.41 | QuantumBeep | This is why I recommend Gateway. |
| 01:41.42 | Macrosoft | id rather use 98 than ME |
| 01:41.47 | blast007 | it crashed on the first boot, before I even saw the desktop |
| 01:41.51 | QuantumBeep | s/perfect/secure/ |
| 01:43.33 | Lagdog | DOS |
| 01:45.14 | QuantumBeep | Well, I've never gotten spyware under DOS... |
| 01:45.34 | QuantumBeep | And there's no DRM. |
| 01:45.35 | daxxar | But DOS had plenty of viruses |
| 01:45.45 | QuantumBeep | Yeah, but those viruses were a lot more fun. |
| 01:46.14 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r14458 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzflag/ (BackgroundRenderer.cxx BackgroundRenderer.h): sunList and starList are never used outside of other lists, include the geometry inline instead of wasting lists. |
| 01:46.38 | daxxar | Your definition of fun sure differs from mine! |
| 01:46.54 | QuantumBeep | Come on. Modern viruses are about making the writer money somehow. |
| 01:47.27 | QuantumBeep | The old ones had splash screens, greets, goofy jokes... |
| 01:47.37 | QuantumBeep | They were just lame people trying to have fun for the most part. |
| 01:47.43 | Macrosoft | you said 7.04 is newer than feisty fawn, right? |
| 01:47.47 | QuantumBeep | Many of the old viruses were outright harmless. |
| 01:48.21 | Macrosoft | ? |
| 01:49.12 | Macrosoft | which is newer, feisty fawn or 7.04? |
| 01:50.18 | Macrosoft | hello? |
| 01:50.20 | brad | they are the same thing |
| 01:51.17 | Macrosoft | oh... *feels like a dumbass* |
| 01:53.01 | daxxar | Good night! |
| 01:56.39 | brlcad | nice work daxxar |
| 02:36.50 | Macrosoft[PZ] | *restarting, testing ubuntu disk* |
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| 02:52.29 | tannerld | ~donny_baker++ |
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| 02:59.39 | Macrosoft | ok, im running ubuntu from the live cd now |
| 03:03.45 | blast007 | couldn't tell |
| 03:04.03 | blast007 | -!- Macrosoft [n=ubuntu@c-75.... |
| 03:04.10 | blast007 | ;) |
| 03:04.56 | Macrosoft | :( i cant run bzflag |
| 03:05.28 | enydona | what a waste |
| 03:05.44 | Macrosoft | still not sure if i should install ubuntu |
| 03:06.04 | blast007 | do you prefer Gnome or KDE? |
| 03:06.24 | Macrosoft | i was using kde on mandriva |
| 03:06.40 | blast007 | Ubuntu comes with Gnome |
| 03:06.44 | blast007 | Kubuntu comes with KDE |
| 03:06.48 | enydona | ubuntu has a lot of problems which persist in every release |
| 03:07.26 | Macrosoft | can ubuntu run kde, or do i have to download kubuntu instead? |
| 03:07.32 | blast007 | not sure |
| 03:08.14 | enydona | switch distros before you waste a bunch of time trying to fix ubuntu then find it still broken |
| 03:08.21 | Macrosoft | *checking disk space to see if i can add another os to this system* |
| 03:08.37 | Macrosoft | already have mandriva and XP on here |
| 03:08.41 | blast007 | seems you can: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/kde |
| 03:09.14 | blast007 | enydona: it might work enough for him.. |
| 03:09.23 | blast007 | enydona: what specific things are "broken" ? |
| 03:09.26 | Macrosoft | ahh... heres a familiar app: firefox on ubuntu |
| 03:09.53 | WinnyAFK | indeed |
| 03:09.54 | enydona | blast007 I just get really frustrated with ubuntu |
| 03:10.07 | blast007 | I get frustrated with all forms of linux ;) |
| 03:10.11 | blast007 | and with Windows |
| 03:10.12 | WinnyAFK | I think the build enviornment was b0rked in 7.10 relase |
| 03:10.13 | blast007 | and with OSX |
| 03:10.22 | WinnyAFK | maybe it was 7.04 |
| 03:10.28 | blast007 | 7.10 isn't released yet |
| 03:10.30 | blast007 | it's in beta |
| 03:10.36 | enydona | I get less frustrated with other forms of linux, excluding fedora |
| 03:10.42 | blast007 | ewww, fedora |
| 03:10.46 | blast007 | I'd rather use Windows |
| 03:10.58 | enydona | exactly |
| 03:11.12 | blast007 | yum has to be one of the worst package managers ;D |
| 03:11.23 | Macrosoft | is there a big difference between kde and gnome on ubuntu? |
| 03:11.43 | blast007 | Macrosoft: ubuntu has nothing to do with the differences |
| 03:12.03 | blast007 | KDE and Gnome are different, yet |
| 03:12.06 | blast007 | yes* |
| 03:12.08 | WinnyAFK | Beryl ;) |
| 03:12.55 | Macrosoft | so, if i install kde on ubuntu, i should be able to use (some of) the apps ive already installed on mandriva |
| 03:13.01 | Macrosoft | ? |
| 03:13.13 | blast007 | huh? |
| 03:13.20 | blast007 | you'll install them on ubuntu too |
| 03:13.30 | blast007 | you won't run the binaries from mandriva |
| 03:13.48 | Macrosoft | there isnt one copy of bzflag that works on mandriva and ubuntu |
| 03:13.53 | Macrosoft | ? |
| 03:13.55 | blast007 | no |
| 03:14.00 | Macrosoft | crap |
| 03:14.05 | blast007 | why does that matter? |
| 03:14.17 | blast007 | oh no, wasting 10MB of space for another bzflag install :) |
| 03:14.38 | Macrosoft | i dont want to install everything i have on mandriva for ubuntu |
| 03:15.03 | blast007 | you have to |
| 03:15.06 | WinnyAFK | oh no T3H HORRERZ |
| 03:15.31 | blast007 | you're installing a new operating system with a completely different package management system |
| 03:15.45 | blast007 | even two versions of Mandriva would be unlikely to share software |
| 03:22.45 | enydona | <cough>debian</cough> |
| 03:23.24 | enydona | how long has it been since TimRiker logged on? |
| 03:23.54 | tannerld | ~seen TimRiker |
| 03:24.16 | ibot | timriker <n=timr@pdpc/supporter/bronze/TimRiker> was last seen on IRC in channel #utah, 2d 21h 29m 9s ago, saying: 'findlay: not in a while, nope. google summer of code has some folks working on it at present. I need to get hacking on 2.1 and get a release out, but have a ton of things going on.'. |
| 03:24.16 | Macrosoft | enydona: why debian? |
| 03:24.34 | enydona | I like it, bias |
| 03:25.37 | enydona | started out on it and everything just happened to work the way I intended, which is weird and wonderful |
| 03:25.39 | WinnyAFK | 2.1! :O |
| 03:25.53 | Macrosoft | need to backup my bzfs stuff |
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| 03:52.53 | WinnyAFK | dunno if anyon wants to delete this: http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?p=111815 |
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| 05:41.26 | ibot | Hey, Jude-, go ahead and make it bad. |
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| 11:02.21 | daxxar | ~seen amcnabb |
| 11:02.50 | ibot | amcnabb <n=amcnabb@c-71-195-212-252.hsd1.ut.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #utah, 27d 15h 16m 35s ago, saying: 'They didn't seem quite as music-oriented as I would have liked.'. |
| 11:03.42 | TASAIRES | Hello to Alls from Spain, ;) Many sun here today |
| 11:04.20 | daxxar | Hello! |
| 11:04.50 | TASAIRES | now here is it the time 13:05 hours |
| 11:05.03 | TASAIRES | daxxar, hi |
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| 12:08.35 | Thumper_ | Good morning TASAIRES. Thanks for turning off your auto-away messages :) |
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| 12:15.33 | TASAIRES | Thumper_, Good days, Buenos dias |
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| 13:40.43 | daxxar | Hmm |
| 13:40.57 | daxxar | I think I'll give every RCMessage a toString()-method, that returns the command it signifies. |
| 13:41.12 | daxxar | Then I can make ctors for RCRequest that takes the parameters of it, and use that to send messages from the frontend. |
| 13:42.09 | daxxar | RCLinkFrontend *link = new RCLinkFrontend("localhost", some_port); RCRequest *identify = new RCIdentifyFrontend("0001"); link->send(identify->toString()); |
| 13:42.45 | daxxar | It's \o/ |
| 13:43.56 | brlcad | daxxar: that's specifically what the Factory() class' string is for :) |
| 13:45.17 | daxxar | Hm? |
| 13:45.21 | daxxar | No, not like that. |
| 13:45.31 | daxxar | Generates the whole message |
| 13:45.51 | daxxar | identify->toString() would return "IdentifyFrontend 0001" |
| 13:45.55 | daxxar | not just "IdentifyFrontend" |
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| 13:49.09 | brlcad | ah, then should still probalby just be something like link->send(identify); |
| 13:49.21 | brlcad | send a request |
| 13:49.46 | brlcad | unless you just don't want to tie it to the class or something |
| 13:50.16 | daxxar | Yeah, I can do that, and make send call toString |
| 13:50.20 | brlcad | the link is already an RC class, though, not a stretch to have it know about requests |
| 13:50.23 | brlcad | right |
| 13:50.50 | brlcad | that way you're only doing it in one place |
| 13:50.59 | daxxar | RCLink itself doesn't tie to RCMessage or anything, but RCLinkBackend and RCLinkFrontend is tied to RCRequest and RCReply respecitvely. |
| 13:51.10 | daxxar | So it won't be a problem. |
| 13:51.15 | brlcad | ah, ok |
| 13:51.58 | daxxar | (they instantiate the RCReply and RCRequest) |
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| 14:35.30 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03daxxar * r14459 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzrobots/ (11 files): |
| 14:35.30 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: Added RCReply.{cxx,h} - and implemented the framework of these. |
| 14:35.30 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: RCLinkFrontend fixed - it now compiles. RCLinkFrontend and RCReply doesn't do anything useful (yet). |
| 14:35.30 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: Added RCReply.{cxx,h} and RCLink.{cxx,h} to Makefile.am. |
| 14:35.31 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: Expanded RCMessage with a getParameters(), so that a command can be reconstructed from an object. |
| 14:35.33 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: Added RCLink::send(RCMessage<C>), which sends a message from an object. |
| 14:35.59 | daxxar | Hm, not much more code today, I guess, festivities may ensue! |
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| 15:15.28 | TheRedBaron | ~pastebin |
| 15:15.29 | ibot | methinks pastebin is a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.ca, or http://channels.debian.net/paste, or http://rafb.net/paste/, or http://pastebin.com is usually painfully too slow and unresponsive to use, use one of the other pastebin sites, or dpaste.com is a very nice pastebin as well |
| 15:15.38 | TheRedBaron | ~bzpastebin |
| 15:15.38 | ibot | i heard bzpastebin is a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel, and it archives too. - try http://bzflag.pastebin.ca/ |
| 15:16.41 | scott | TheRedBaron: pastebin.mindbender.ca |
| 15:17.21 | scott | er, wrong channel |
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| 16:25.45 | tannerld | ~jude++ |
| 16:28.06 | tannerld | ~jude++ |
| 16:34.42 | Winny | not even the right jude |
| 16:34.49 | Winny | ~jude-++ |
| 16:36.00 | tannerld | ugh |
| 16:36.02 | tannerld | ~jude-++ |
| 16:36.44 | Winny | ~karma jude- |
| 16:36.44 | ibot | jude- has karma of 49 |
| 16:37.18 | tannerld | ~jude-++ |
| 16:37.22 | tannerld | nice round number |
| 16:37.35 | Winny | ... |
| 16:37.58 | Winny | ~karma tannerld |
| 16:37.58 | ibot | tannerld has karma of 12 |
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| 16:49.16 | uso | i never liked this forum software, but it seems to be both ways, it hates me too :) |
| 16:49.40 | Epyon_ | ~karma Epyon |
| 16:49.40 | ibot | epyon has karma of 2 |
| 16:50.11 | menotume | that's not good |
| 16:50.19 | menotume | ~Epyon++ |
| 16:50.32 | uso | maybe i'm too blind, but i don't see an attachment button, neither a button to get to the full reply page |
| 16:50.48 | uso | blast007: any hint how to get there? |
| 16:51.01 | Winny | click "add an attachment" if your on BZBB... |
| 16:51.19 | blast007 | there is a "post reply" button on the threads |
| 16:51.22 | TheRedBaron | uso: at the top of the topic, to the left |
| 16:52.11 | blast007 | at the bottom too, iirc |
| 16:52.29 | uso | http://bzf.bzflag.org/tmp/bzbb_reply.png |
| 16:52.35 | TheRedBaron | at the very bottom |
| 16:53.02 | TheRedBaron | uso: ew |
| 16:53.24 | uso | :) |
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| 16:53.33 | TheRedBaron | uso: you can e-mail me the log and I'll attach it for ya |
| 16:53.49 | FarkSimmons | hi... does anyone know how to compile the AntiSpawnCamp plugin? there are only binaries for Mac and not linux |
| 16:54.01 | FarkSimmons | the source dir doesnt contain a configure |
| 16:54.15 | uso | TheRedBaron: you can get it from the link in my last post |
| 16:54.27 | FarkSimmons | make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found. Stop. |
| 16:56.51 | TheRedBaron | hrm |
| 16:58.14 | TheRedBaron | blast007: apparantly, the "attachment" function is not privy to all the private forums in bzbb |
| 16:58.37 | TheRedBaron | uso: I dont' think its all your fault :) |
| 16:58.43 | blast007 | ah |
| 16:58.49 | FarkSimmons | anyone know how to compile this plugin? |
| 16:58.51 | FarkSimmons | under Linux? |
| 16:59.02 | TheRedBaron | blast007: i checked, its on a few, but not all of them |
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| 17:02.07 | ts | uso: Moin |
| 17:02.16 | uso | hi ts |
| 17:02.18 | ts | uso: Where did the screenshot go? :( |
| 17:02.27 | DTRemenak | TheRedBaron: for which forum do you need post files turned on? |
| 17:02.49 | uso | curious? ... removed :) |
| 17:03.01 | ts | I'm always curious :p |
| 17:03.29 | TheRedBaron | DTRemenak: the gu admin |
| 17:04.05 | blast007 | TheRedBaron: try now |
| 17:04.08 | DTRemenak | TheRedBaron: should be now |
| 17:04.10 | DTRemenak | eep |
| 17:04.13 | blast007 | heh |
| 17:04.22 | uso | ts: i checked to give not away any secrets with the sceeenshot, but you never can be absolutly sure, so i prefered to remove it asap ;) |
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| 17:04.47 | ts | Who created the groups for the forum? They are not standard |
| 17:04.56 | Winny | I already looked...big secrects being revealed ;P |
| 17:05.08 | uso | hehe Winny :) |
| 17:05.18 | blast007 | ts: which groups? |
| 17:05.20 | ts | Inconsistent name and no record in description who created and when |
| 17:06.27 | ts | blast007: "GU.euro.sqad" but beware, a subforum is tied to the group |
| 17:06.49 | blast007 | hmm |
| 17:07.10 | ts | uso: I think trepan did the same with his biiig patch :/ |
| 17:07.58 | DTRemenak | multiple levels is acceptable in group names (not that we've done many that way) |
| 17:08.55 | ts | Well, if there is no lowercase name someone else probably request it later and then baaam ;) |
| 17:16.14 | uso | blast007, DTRemenak: well, my case may be hopeless, but i still don't get the attachment button in the gu admin forum ;) |
| 17:16.39 | uso | at least i know now how it should look, as i get it in other forums |
| 17:16.53 | uso | TheRedBaron: you get the attachment button now? |
| 17:17.26 | TheRedBaron | nope |
| 17:17.31 | TheRedBaron | flush the cookeis? |
| 17:17.42 | blast007 | that should not affect anything |
| 17:18.02 | uso | hmm, i logged out and in at least twice |
| 17:19.23 | TheRedBaron | DTRemenak: if its any help, Tadd's private forum has the attachment button |
| 17:20.58 | DTRemenak | TheRedBaron: his permissions are actually set more restrictively than gu admin's are. should be working. |
| 17:21.34 | uso | may it only work for new posts/threads? |
| 17:23.13 | uso | hmm, no, even for a new topic i don't get the button |
| 17:24.26 | Thumper_ | uso: I have this near the bottom left of an article : You can attach files in this forum |
| 17:24.32 | Thumper_ | maybe it's permissions related ? |
| 17:25.09 | Thumper_ | when I logout I get: You cannot attach files in this forum |
| 17:25.21 | uso | Thumper_: probably, i get the button on other forums |
| 17:25.37 | uso | maybe my handle need to expire, i'll try it later |
| 17:25.44 | uso | thanks so far |
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| 18:29.41 | donny_baker | Winny: A "how to"? |
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| 19:17.25 | Winny | JeffM: What version of VC++ do you have? |
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| 19:30.44 | JeffM | 2003 |
| 19:30.49 | JeffM | 7.1 |
| 19:30.55 | Winny | The real version? |
| 19:30.57 | Winny | or EE? |
| 19:31.07 | JeffM | real |
| 19:31.14 | JeffM | ee is only 2005 ( VC8) |
| 19:32.12 | JeffM | DTRemenak, you arround? this thing is small, but rather cool |
| 19:32.29 | blast007 | Winny: if you choose to do work on the group management system, you'll want to discuss it with me ;) |
| 19:32.48 | Winny | Do I ever do anything to the end? :p |
| 19:33.25 | blast007 | hmm? |
| 19:34.59 | tupone | what toy? |
| 19:35.09 | JeffM | nokia 770 internet tablet |
| 19:35.12 | L4m3r | oh god no, Jeff, please tell me you didn't... |
| 19:35.15 | L4m3r | oh |
| 19:35.26 | L4m3r | ^_^ nevermind. is that the one that was on woot the other day? |
| 19:35.29 | Winny | L4m3r: you thought iPhone :p |
| 19:35.37 | blast007 | hehe |
| 19:35.42 | JeffM | yeah from woot |
| 19:35.46 | JeffM | was cheap as hell |
| 19:35.51 | L4m3r | yeah, it looked neat |
| 19:35.59 | tannerld | lol |
| 19:36.04 | L4m3r | but I can't justify buying one when I've got a lappy already :P |
| 19:36.20 | JeffM | it's HELLA smaller then a laptop |
| 19:36.24 | L4m3r | so? |
| 19:36.31 | JeffM | pocket sized |
| 19:36.33 | L4m3r | I carry a big nerd bag around anyway :P |
| 19:36.52 | JeffM | I'm gonna get a USB GPS hooked into it and make it be a nav system :) |
| 19:37.02 | L4m3r | nice |
| 19:37.28 | JeffM | on a motorcycle |
| 19:38.14 | L4m3r | >_> |
| 19:38.15 | donny_baker | wow, that will be safe ;P |
| 19:38.30 | tannerld | heh |
| 19:38.38 | JeffM | it's small enough to mount above my instruments |
| 19:38.52 | JeffM | so it's no more taking my eyes off the road then when I check speed |
| 19:39.14 | donny_baker | how is it in the out of doors (brightness wise) |
| 19:39.22 | JeffM | prety damned good |
| 19:39.38 | JeffM | nokia does know at thing or 2 about baklights outside |
| 19:39.42 | donny_baker | cool, my phone washes out quite a bit |
| 19:40.00 | L4m3r | JeffM: I have to disagree there. my Nokia cell looks like crap in the sun. |
| 19:40.35 | JeffM | the ones I had din't |
| 19:40.38 | JeffM | this one looks decent |
| 19:40.52 | JeffM | I can power it by the bike and run it at full bright |
| 19:41.15 | L4m3r | nice |
| 19:41.23 | L4m3r | I got a few toys in the last few weeks |
| 19:41.29 | L4m3r | my favorite being the slingbox :) |
| 19:41.39 | TheRedBaron | JeffM: http://shop.delorme.com/OA_HTML/DELibeCCtpItmDspRte.jsp?section=10091&item=26506 |
| 19:42.38 | JeffM | TheRedBaron, yeah tha'ts what I've been looking into |
| 19:44.00 | TheRedBaron | their nice |
| 19:45.29 | TheRedBaron | I've used it, and I have no complaints |
| 19:45.56 | JeffM | as have I |
| 19:46.01 | JeffM | tho I can't run that software on it |
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| 20:24.35 | CBG | can't see crap on my mobile screen (old sony ericcson, t610) in even avrage sort of light |
| 20:24.42 | CBG | average* |
| 20:35.22 | JeffM | zlib was removed from the source tree? |
| 20:35.46 | JeffM | ahh moved |
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| 20:58.44 | thefirstdude | is there a firefox extension for translating web pages in foreign languages |
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| 21:01.03 | Winny | thefirstdude: google it |
| 21:01.07 | Winny | probably is |
| 21:01.37 | donny_baker | or search the extensions page... im sure i saw one last week |
| 21:04.54 | JeffM | brlcad, you there? |
| 21:18.03 | brlcad | JeffM: sure |
| 21:18.19 | JeffM | odds of you using the new font manager in 2.1? |
| 21:19.42 | brlcad | still got a bug to track down though |
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| 21:20.02 | brlcad | s/though// |
| 21:20.42 | JeffM | but odds are hight right? |
| 21:20.42 | tupone | eek |
| 21:20.42 | brlcad | probably |
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| 21:20.52 | blast007 | Constitution: you broke it! |
| 21:21.05 | blast007 | ;) |
| 21:21.05 | Constitution | aaaahhhh, so sorry :-P |
| 21:21.05 | brlcad | haven't gotten to the comprehensive performance test or even a preliminary feel other than the estimates I already did for drawing 1000 strings |
| 21:21.16 | JeffM | well I just didn't want to port the lists it uses :) |
| 21:21.49 | tupone | JeffM, you moved again from the dark side? |
| 21:22.00 | JeffM | naw |
| 21:22.02 | JeffM | just got bored |
| 21:22.07 | tupone | ahh |
| 21:22.10 | brlcad | jeffm wants to quit his job and work on brl-cad full time |
| 21:22.21 | JeffM | how much does it pay? |
| 21:22.32 | brlcad | how much would it take? :) |
| 21:22.38 | JeffM | 75k |
| 21:22.39 | blast007 | brlcad: that jedi mind trick doesn't work on jeff! |
| 21:22.48 | brlcad | JeffM: hell.. |
| 21:23.55 | JeffM | it feels wierd installing .debs on something the size of a phone |
| 21:24.07 | JeffM | DTRemenak will freak when he sees the theme I found for the thing |
| 21:24.57 | brlcad | hell as in that's doable (given your skills), though you'd have to do the whole bumblefsck move to east coast thing |
| 21:25.17 | JeffM | oh yeah snow |
| 21:25.20 | JeffM | 85k |
| 21:25.23 | brlcad | heh |
| 21:25.25 | blast007 | hehe |
| 21:26.25 | tupone | hmm any offers for me at 100k ? |
| 21:26.30 | tupone | hmm, not US resident |
| 21:26.47 | brlcad | yeah, tupy, I suspect you'd have trouble getting a clearance :) |
| 21:27.20 | tupone | I have, just not for US :) |
| 21:28.22 | tupone | I have the clearance for home, and mummy house. Not much more allowed |
| 21:29.00 | brlcad | i seriously am looking for about three guys full-time with solid programming expertise, preferably some familiarity with computer graphics programming |
| 21:29.21 | brlcad | nurbs/brep support and step are this year's hot items |
| 21:29.42 | JeffM | moving isn't one of my top priorities |
| 21:29.43 | brlcad | followed by a new gui and a geometry server |
| 21:29.45 | JeffM | and I have no degree |
| 21:29.53 | tupone | dunno brep and/or step |
| 21:30.11 | JBdiGriz | tupone: Any desire to do Linux device driver work? |
| 21:30.16 | brlcad | JeffM: yeah, but I could make a damn good case for you |
| 21:30.43 | brlcad | hell, you make the case yourself just via example and experience |
| 21:31.11 | tupone | unfortunately .. my job empty the desire to do any other job for living (with plan) :/ |
| 21:31.20 | JeffM | and leave DTRemenak allone? |
| 21:31.26 | brlcad | bring him too! :) |
| 21:31.33 | brlcad | man that would be awesome.. |
| 21:31.35 | JBdiGriz | I was just wondering what you would do with DTRemenak |
| 21:31.52 | tupone | maybe in about 15 years I will like :) |
| 21:32.14 | JeffM | hah, they have nethack for this thing :) |
| 21:32.15 | brlcad | tupone: empties the desire because it's so good? |
| 21:32.25 | brlcad | JeffM: what'd you get? |
| 21:32.36 | JeffM | nokia 770 internet tablet |
| 21:32.40 | brlcad | ah |
| 21:32.48 | tupone | I like my work |
| 21:32.55 | JeffM | it's got leeenox on it |
| 21:33.13 | brlcad | tupone: with as much as you get to travel, what's not to like :) |
| 21:33.24 | tupone | and I don't like any other conviction :) |
| 21:33.53 | tupone | well, there some people that hate it ... I don't |
| 21:33.58 | JeffM | how much are houses and crud out there? |
| 21:34.08 | brlcad | compared to where you're at, pretty darn cheap |
| 21:34.47 | brlcad | generally no commuting hell either |
| 21:34.56 | JeffM | I drive 10 min |
| 21:35.12 | JBdiGriz | Winter power bill is a little steep at times out there. |
| 21:35.36 | JeffM | winter freeze your ass off is what I'd be worried about |
| 21:35.51 | brlcad | 10 min is pretty good, it's 10 minutes to get from the base security check to my desk |
| 21:36.19 | JBdiGriz | depending on the current threat level |
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| 21:36.45 | brlcad | JBdiGriz: not so much for me, I rarely ever get cold.. |
| 21:36.54 | brlcad | went all last winter without turning on the heat once |
| 21:37.10 | brlcad | actually had to crack a window from time to time to cool it down for my tastes |
| 21:37.39 | brlcad | but then I'll go out in snow with flipflops and a t-shirt without any problems |
| 21:37.44 | Winny | what does "dinput.h" stand for? |
| 21:37.53 | brlcad | direct input |
| 21:37.54 | blast007 | direct input |
| 21:37.56 | Tupone | direct input |
| 21:37.57 | brlcad | part of direct X |
| 21:38.00 | JeffM | yeah |
| 21:38.07 | JeffM | you need the directX SDK |
| 21:38.08 | Winny | oh yeah.. forgot about that one |
| 21:38.11 | JeffM | and the platform SDK |
| 21:38.20 | JeffM | and glew |
| 21:38.23 | blast007 | he has the platform one already |
| 21:38.23 | Winny | I know |
| 21:38.26 | Winny | I got those :p |
| 21:38.27 | Tupone | I was late, can we retry ? |
| 21:39.21 | Winny | why did FF have to crash when I had 10mb of DX SDK left |
| 21:55.06 | *** part/#bzflag LongDon (n=LongDon@dyndsl-091-096-009-240.ewe-ip-backbone.de) |
| 22:10.35 | nn-gentoo | wheres peter |
| 22:10.50 | nn-gentoo | im haveing problems with zine |
| 22:10.54 | nn-gentoo | zone |
| 22:11.40 | Constitution | with a zone on one of peter's maps? |
| 22:12.03 | Constitution | 'cause I'm sure there are other people who can help you |
| 22:18.33 | Winny | *tumble weed* |
| 22:23.36 | *** join/#bzflag Epyon (i=Epyon@host99.180.219.81.magma-net.pl) |
| 22:24.54 | *** join/#bzflag jude- (n=jude@c-68-84-206-92.hsd1.ar.comcast.net) |
| 22:24.58 | jude- | hello all |
| 22:25.13 | Winny | hi jude- |
| 22:25.13 | Winny | err |
| 22:25.15 | Winny | ~heyjude |
| 22:25.16 | ibot | Hey, Jude-, go ahead and make it bad. |
| 22:25.42 | Constitution | hi jude- |
| 22:25.45 | nn-gentoo | um |
| 22:25.46 | nn-gentoo | y |
| 22:25.56 | Winny | yummy? |
| 22:26.02 | Winny | trying to spell yummy? |
| 22:26.52 | nn-gentoo | the problem is im saying zone position 375 0 52 but the flags seem to spawn as if i said position 375 0 0 |
| 22:26.55 | nn-gentoo | ?? |
| 22:27.23 | Winny | you need a box under it |
| 22:27.28 | Winny | a flag can't float.. |
| 22:27.39 | blast007 | anti-gravity flags! what will they think of next! |
| 22:27.42 | Winny | and you'll also need -fb |
| 22:27.42 | nn-gentoo | i do have a box under it |
| 22:27.58 | blast007 | -fb in the bzfs config |
| 22:28.10 | blast007 | (or in the map options block, I suppose) |
| 22:28.43 | nn-gentoo | duh im sutch an idiot i forgot the -fb |
| 22:28.48 | nn-gentoo | |
| 22:29.05 | Winny | I said it before blast007! I win! |
| 22:44.44 | *** join/#bzflag AWOSLappy (n=user@unaffiliated/awosdev) |
| 23:12.23 | *** join/#bzflag spldart (n=troublem@cpe-24-28-106-78.houston.res.rr.com) |
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| 23:28.47 | grass_clipping | OUCH!!!! |
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| 23:38.42 | AWOSLappy | lol |
| 23:39.40 | AWOSLappy | \o/ <o/ \o/ \o> |
| 23:41.13 | spldart | :~) |
| 23:52.36 | spldart | did list server just die? |
| 23:53.16 | *** join/#bzflag spldart (n=troublem@cpe-24-28-106-78.houston.res.rr.com) |
| 23:53.36 | spldart | poop |
| 23:53.55 | AWOSLappy | I'm trying to check the list server first, spldart |
| 23:54.02 | spldart | it's back |
| 23:54.15 | spldart | maybe a temp thing |
| 23:54.18 | Winny | ..in black! |
| 23:54.32 | AWOSLappy | yep it's back |
| 23:54.50 | AWOSLappy | not that it ever left afaict |
| 23:55.34 | spldart | maybe it's me... for a bit I couldn't get a server |
| 23:55.44 | AWOSLappy | I wouldn't know. |
| 23:55.52 | AWOSLappy | Visual Studio is the active task, not bzflag ;) |
| 23:55.59 | spldart | :) |
| 23:56.00 | AWOSLappy | But I think I'll take you up on the offer. |
| 23:56.08 | AWOSLappy | :P |
| 23:56.35 | Winny | you take THAT long to go pee? |
| 23:57.14 | spldart | maybe it's a racehorse beer pee |
