| 00:23.16 | delusional_ | is it possible to have a tank always be facing in the same direction when it spawns? perhaps _setforced? |
| 00:26.55 | blast007 | delusional_: that would required a plugin or a modified bzfs |
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| 00:57.25 | AAA_awright | can plugins devine custom server variables? |
| 00:57.30 | AAA_awright | *define? |
| 01:03.37 | blast007 | afaik |
| 01:04.06 | delusional_ | raceToSeven has several |
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| 01:16.11 | AAA_awright | cool |
| 01:17.42 | blast007 | AAA_awright: there is also a -setforced paramater for bzfs |
| 01:18.17 | AAA_awright | I knew about that. I have never really thought what would prevent you from -set ing a variable before though... |
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| 04:44.12 | brlcad | mysql is always heavily eating the cpu |
| 04:44.58 | brlcad | there was a botnet attached around the time it seemed slow |
| 04:45.18 | brlcad | twas disconnected after about 10 minutes from the looks of it |
| 04:48.19 | AAA_awright | Any way to check for IP's of TCP connections? |
| 04:48.51 | brlcad | they're botnets, randomly infected hosts that attach to the server for various nefarious purposes |
| 04:48.57 | brlcad | so the IPs are random |
| 04:49.20 | AAA_awright | not unusual for me to get random bots coming from one ISP |
| 04:49.29 | brlcad | the detection script can only identify that it's such a net after certain criteria are passed |
| 04:49.30 | AAA_awright | usually in china |
| 04:49.41 | brlcad | those are the easy ones |
| 04:49.49 | brlcad | and it detects those as well |
| 04:50.15 | brlcad | the ones that usually slow it down are almost always distributed |
| 04:50.58 | brlcad | as the server has to wait until enough IPs remain connected for a long enough time in high enough numbers |
| 04:51.15 | brlcad | in order to avoid false positives of just high use |
| 04:51.54 | AAA_awright | (me wonders about my list server load script) |
| 04:52.19 | brlcad | and this is *after* all of the standard tricks of checking the public blacklists, checking request types, connection patterns |
| 04:52.40 | AAA_awright | Yah. |
| 04:53.03 | AAA_awright | Time to do list server caching? |
| 04:53.12 | brlcad | bz's rather prone because of the server's visibility/popularity, high search-result rate compared to many servers |
| 04:53.23 | brlcad | caching? |
| 04:53.57 | brlcad | the client already has support for list server caching |
| 04:54.02 | AAA_awright | Even if the cache's lifetime is only 5-10 seconds, that still reduces (according to my listserver load script) SQL queries to the database to times. |
| 04:54.08 | brlcad | doesn't work so great all the time, but it's there |
| 04:54.08 | AAA_awright | *ten |
| 04:54.16 | AAA_awright | Server-side I mean. |
| 04:54.55 | brlcad | that could be useful, but those aren't what keep mysql so busy |
| 04:55.05 | brlcad | and is completely orthogonal to the botnet problem |
| 04:55.28 | brlcad | botnets can/will still bog down the machine |
| 04:56.11 | AAA_awright | Why is it MySQL taking so long? Did you run SHOW PROCESSLIST to see? |
| 04:57.12 | brlcad | you mean when a botnet is attached or in general? |
| 04:57.28 | brlcad | it's always high, in part just because of heavy load from everything it has to handle |
| 04:57.47 | brlcad | in part because it's got really high priority in order to remain responsive |
| 04:58.36 | brlcad | there are several expensive queries that some of the web services can cause (logging in via phpbb is mildly expensive) |
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| 07:32.15 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * r14657 10/branches/ftgl/src/bzflag/GUIOptionsMenu.cxx: do the same that is done for the font sizes. instead of 11 'opacities', turn the label to opaque. allow for considerably more font sizes (up to 80 pt) too. |
| 07:45.27 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * r14658 10/branches/ftgl/ (16 files in 4 dirs): |
| 07:45.27 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: convert that last remaining std::string that was being passed and used inside of |
| 07:45.27 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: FontManager::drawString() to a const char* for yet another little speed nudge. |
| 07:45.27 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: enough profiling -- this'll intently be the last optimization effort going in |
| 07:45.27 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: for now, it's pretty close (2-5%). only thing left is to fix a few build system |
| 07:45.28 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: issues (configure stuff) and the console outline. |
| 08:06.40 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * r14659 10/branches/ftgl/NEWS: New font system |
| 08:07.35 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * r14660 10/branches/ftgl/BUGS: pulsating text not pulsating is a known limitation (and an intentional one done for performane when opaque) so remove from bugs list |
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| 08:09.42 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * r14661 10/branches/ftgl/BUGS: server list menu navigation is broken, no navigation/focus is displayed |
| 08:11.05 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * r14662 10/branches/ftgl/BUGS: missing mountains7.png and explode3.png, mountain renders discontiguous |
| 08:15.12 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * r14663 10/branches/ftgl/BUGS: |
| 08:15.12 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: intermittent/random client-server connection failures. it either works great or |
| 08:15.12 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: doesn't work at all and usually seems to come in waves where can't connect to |
| 08:15.12 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: server for several minutes, then it'll be fine again. perhaps something to due |
| 08:15.12 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: with server load and server not responding to client in time or server otherwise |
| 08:15.15 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: dropping the client depending on activity (thinking maybe a dns lookup that |
| 08:15.17 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: takes too long sort of issue) |
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| 13:53.42 | blast007 | brlcad: ping |
| 13:58.45 | brlcad | pong? |
| 14:03.19 | blast007 | I was playing around with some MySQL stuff yesterday, looking at different storage engines |
| 14:03.29 | blast007 | one of the engines is "MEMORY" |
| 14:03.42 | blast007 | it stores the table definition as a file, but the data is held in RAM |
| 14:04.09 | blast007 | might be something to think about for items such as current players online, current server, etc |
| 14:04.23 | blast007 | http://static.bzexcess.com/benchmark.txt |
| 14:04.35 | blast007 | first set is MyISAM, the other is MEMORY |
| 14:05.22 | blast007 | the 'insert' queries were based on adding 15,000 rows |
| 14:07.14 | blast007 | the update ran through all of those rows, and adjusted a few of the column values |
| 14:07.44 | blast007 | the only change I made to the table was adding "ENGINE = MEMORY" to the end |
| 14:08.05 | blast007 | of course, this kind of table isn't useful for most things, since when MySQL is shut down, the data goes away |
| 14:27.07 | brlcad | erm, if I read that right.. connects and selects are more expensive while inserts are faster |
| 14:28.23 | brlcad | ahh, connects were just in the noise |
| 14:28.36 | brlcad | but selects do seem to be slower |
| 14:35.30 | blast007 | they're about the same |
| 14:35.45 | blast007 | although, this was without indexes |
| 14:38.54 | blast007 | hmm, actually that shouldn't really apply |
| 14:44.28 | blast007 | the big thing is that the updates were 10 times as fast when using the 'memory' storage engine |
| 14:49.10 | brlcad | is there a table already where it'd be desirable to have in-memory-only behavior or would that have to be a mod? |
| 14:49.50 | blast007 | the stats site (current player and current servers) and the list server's list of servers |
| 14:50.23 | blast007 | I figure there is a LOT of updates for all of those |
| 14:50.31 | blast007 | the stats site hits every 5 minutes |
| 14:50.58 | blast007 | and the list server is pretty busy on a regular basis |
| 14:51.01 | Chestal | what about the authentication token? how is that handled in the deb? |
| 14:51.10 | Chestal | eh, in the db |
| 14:51.19 | blast007 | that's in the phpBB database iirc |
| 14:51.39 | blast007 | at least, currently |
| 14:52.19 | blast007 | one thing I found is that there are some limitations to the MEMORY engine |
| 14:52.37 | blast007 | can't use TEXT or BLOB data types, for one |
| 14:53.37 | Chestal | btw., where did you do the benchmarks? |
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| 14:59.21 | brlcad | blast007: you're welcome to try it, lemme know if you don't have access or something |
| 14:59.48 | brlcad | there still are really expensive select and update queries, many of which could be optimized |
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| 15:04.40 | blast007 | Chestal: I did benchmarks on my own server |
| 15:05.43 | blast007 | Celeron D 2.53GHz, 1GB RAM, Debian Sarge |
| 15:06.12 | blast007 | brlcad: I'll probably try stuff on my server first |
| 15:06.31 | blast007 | I want to get a similar setup going, then run some stress tests |
| 15:06.54 | Chestal | I asked because I would expect the results from the 'normal' engine to be much more sensitive to other load (I/O) on the same machine than the MEMORY results |
| 15:07.19 | blast007 | Chestal: ah |
| 15:07.36 | blast007 | yeah, I didn't want to beat the stuffing out of the m.b.o server ;) |
| 15:08.11 | blast007 | I could always run a bzflag compile in the background and try again :) |
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| 15:15.28 | Winny | blast007: any work on the skin yet? |
| 15:15.36 | Winny | s/any/anymore |
| 15:15.36 | blast007 | nope! |
| 15:15.42 | Winny | darn, alright ;D |
| 15:16.04 | blast007 | I was too busy yesterday watching the TV screen |
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| 15:49.39 | brlcad | howdy Quol |
| 15:51.24 | Quol | hey brlcad :) |
| 15:51.27 | Quol | how are things? |
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| 18:29.29 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03blast007 * r14664 10/trunk/db/ (14 files in 2 dirs): Move the inclusion of common code outside of header.inc and into each page; start to improve the organization of playerinfo.php |
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| 19:09.35 | donny_baker | ~winny++ |
| 19:09.59 | Winny | ~blast007++ |
| 19:10.58 | donny_baker | ~blast007++ |
| 19:14.38 | AAA_awright | ... |
| 19:15.33 | blast007 | AAA_awright: ? |
| 19:15.44 | AAA_awright | Karma just for updating s.b.o? |
| 19:15.48 | blast007 | no |
| 19:16.15 | blast007 | karma for uploading the drupal theme I've been working on |
| 19:16.29 | blast007 | well, working on porting to drupal, that is |
| 19:16.43 | AAA_awright | Guuhhh. |
| 19:16.44 | Winny | ~karma blast007 |
| 19:16.44 | ibot | blast007 has karma of 160 |
| 19:16.47 | Winny | ~blast007++ |
| 19:17.03 | blast007 | a_met and Winny made the template, I tweaked it, and started the drupal theme using it |
| 19:17.17 | AAA_awright | ~winny-- There is a syatem where people with more karma have more influence over it, right? |
| 19:17.18 | ibot | AAA_awright: okay |
| 19:17.22 | AAA_awright | (no) |
| 19:17.32 | Winny | err |
| 19:17.41 | blast007 | ~forget winny-- There |
| 19:17.41 | ibot | blast007: i forgot winny-- there |
| 19:18.09 | Winny | blast007: not sure if you noticed, but the search box has odd pading |
| 19:18.10 | AAA_awright | ;) |
| 19:18.20 | Winny | must be firefox |
| 19:18.24 | AAA_awright | I knew that was going to happen (not) |
| 19:18.26 | Winny | cause it looks fine in IE |
| 19:18.42 | AAA_awright | URL Winny |
| 19:19.13 | AAA_awright | That is somthing new... firefox messing up padding without IE. |
| 19:19.30 | blast007 | Winny: I noticed |
| 19:19.54 | blast007 | there's issues with the sidebar in general |
| 19:20.02 | Winny | :) |
| 19:20.03 | blast007 | the login boxes are odd too |
| 19:20.56 | Winny | hmm |
| 19:21.26 | Winny | also, when you submit news, and you get the preview, the "BZFlag.org" at the top isn't a link |
| 19:28.45 | brlcad | ooh, nice work guys |
| 19:31.51 | Winny | s/guys/blast |
| 19:32.05 | blast007 | Winny: no, not just me :P |
| 19:32.15 | blast007 | I can't do graphics like that :) |
| 19:32.39 | brlcad | that header image still kinda sucks, but the overall design is looking much better -- nice to see it themed/real ;) |
| 19:33.08 | Winny | brlcad: yeah, I keep forgetting to do the header |
| 19:33.53 | blast007 | still a lot of tweaks to be done :) |
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| 20:56.19 | Winny | err |
| 20:56.24 | CBG | or |
| 20:56.25 | Winny | is there a 2.0.8 PPC build? |
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| 20:58.51 | Winny | the wiki says there isn't... |
| 20:59.23 | Winny | aha, found it |
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| 21:24.13 | Winny | brlcad: pingy |
| 21:30.04 | AAA_awright | Added (primitive) graphs of scores: http://bzflag.redjacket.ws/index.php/player/bobcat341#s4132 |
| 21:32.09 | CBG | ~AAA_awright++ |
| 21:32.19 | AAA_awright | :) |
| 21:32.52 | Winny | AAA_awright: what was with the ~winny-- earlier? what did I do? |
| 21:33.08 | Winny | I should say, the attempt at the winny-- :p |
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| 21:33.26 | AAA_awright | Er... testing somthing. Yah. No offense to you. |
| 21:34.08 | AAA_awright | There is an idea. |
| 21:34.45 | AAA_awright | ~AAA_Awright-- |
| 21:34.55 | AAA_awright | dang. |
| 21:35.18 | Winny | can't karma yourself |
| 21:38.43 | AAA_awright | I thought I could override the meaning of aaa_awright--. You can't. |
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| 22:35.12 | jude- | hello all |
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| 22:35.18 | Winny | hey jude- |
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| 23:02.01 | AAA_awright | Graphs look cool now: http://bzflag.redjacket.ws/index.php/player/bobcat341#s4132 |
| 23:03.18 | jude- | ~AAA_awright++ |
| 23:03.39 | AAA_awright | :) |
| 23:05.36 | Erroneous | mm, I like the new look |
| 23:13.09 | Winny | AAA_awright: want a better header img? |
| 23:13.29 | AAA_awright | Sure. |
| 23:13.38 | Winny | ok. |
| 23:14.00 | AAA_awright | I generated that quicky with GIMP, because s.b.o's header isn't repeating. |
| 23:14.17 | AAA_awright | tile-able. |
| 23:14.47 | Winny | brlcad: pingy |
| 23:24.31 | brlcad | sup |
| 23:25.26 | L4m3r | hm... can anyone recommend a router that will actually keep up with my 80mbit dorm connection? :P |
| 23:25.49 | Winny | L4m3r: I think you can suffer :P |
| 23:25.57 | L4m3r | absolutely not! |
| 23:25.58 | L4m3r | :P |
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