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| 00:02.13 | CIA-23 | BZFlag: 03chaos-dev * r15351 10/trunk/bzwgen/ (5 files in 2 dirs): Implemented ExtrudeT into the language. |
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| 00:16.47 | CIA-23 | BZFlag: 03chaos-dev * r15352 10/trunk/bzwgen/ (inc/Mesh.h src/Mesh.cxx): Implemented textureFace(face,snap,tile) |
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| 00:25.50 | CIA-23 | BZFlag: 03chaos-dev * r15353 10/trunk/bzwgen/ (11 files in 4 dirs): Basically finished the texturing system. |
| 00:29.22 | TD-Linux | YEAH! |
| 00:32.12 | TD-Linux | did you fix the inside points yet? |
| 00:32.29 | CIA-23 | BZFlag: 03chaos-dev * r15354 10/trunk/bzwgen/ (7 files in 4 dirs): OperationTextureClear added |
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| 00:34.02 | TD-Linux | Epyon, ^^ |
| 00:35.31 | CIA-23 | BZFlag: 03chaos-dev * r15355 10/trunk/bzwgen/src/RuleSet.cxx: Put the inside points 0.05f higher than the base face |
| 00:39.35 | TD-Linux | yay! |
| 00:41.02 | CIA-23 | BZFlag: 03chaos-dev * r15356 10/trunk/bzwgen/rules/build.set: Bugfix for nontextured building. |
| 00:41.43 | CIA-23 | BZFlag: 03chaos-dev * r15357 10/trunk/bzwgen/TODO: TexCoords TODO cleared ;] |
| 00:45.57 | A_Heart_Attack | lol |
| 00:46.51 | Winny | Now now, Epyon, don't go through that GSoC money so quickly. |
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| 01:10.39 | Epyon | Winny, I calculated that the GSoC money would be enough for 5000 half-liter beers. On a decent rate that's at least 500 days of drinking, so I'll make it to the next SoC xP |
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| 01:11.41 | spldart | half liter beer? |
| 01:12.11 | Epyon | 1/8th of a gallon :P |
| 01:12.59 | spldart | found it... I consume around 1.8 liters of beer in a beer drinking evening |
| 01:13.33 | Epyon | spldart, you don't like getting cheerful, huh? :/ |
| 01:13.34 | spldart | And about 1.1 to 1.2 liters of red wine on the other evenings |
| 01:15.13 | Epyon | spldart, are you sure you got your conversion right? 1.2 liters of wine is 1 and a half bottle. |
| 01:15.20 | spldart | Well.. My max beer drinking hit 8.5 liters in 12 hours |
| 01:15.27 | spldart | but that was my 21 birthday |
| 01:15.42 | Epyon | lol |
| 01:16.01 | Epyon | I don't drink as much as I used to. |
| 01:16.07 | spldart | But that was back when battlezone was battlezone |
| 01:16.22 | spldart | and a pc was an apple II |
| 01:16.49 | Epyon | Constitution, ping? |
| 01:16.54 | spldart | Well... I think 286's and 386's were out |
| 01:19.30 | spldart | shuttle mobo |
| 01:20.08 | Epyon | I a 386SX 2MB RAM, 256 color grayscale laptop :P |
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| 01:21.00 | spldart | woah |
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| 01:25.33 | blast007 | Epyon: I have an 8086 desktop, something like 4.4 MHz (8MHz in Turbo), 640KB of RAM, 21MB hard drive, and a Hercules Monochrome graphics adapter |
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| 01:26.32 | blast007 | (oh yeah, and it still works) |
| 01:26.40 | blast007 | with IBM anti-virus |
| 01:26.42 | blast007 | ;) |
| 01:26.51 | Epyon | I have a Commodore 4+ (4 is for 4kB of RAM) in my cellar. Last time I checked it worked :P |
| 01:28.53 | blast007 | see, someone always one-ups me |
| 01:29.07 | blast007 | Epyon: I have a wrist watch! |
| 01:29.26 | spldart | I was thinking of sending this shuttle to someone if they wanted it for free... I'm goin to trash it otherwise |
| 01:29.27 | Epyon | I don't :/ |
| 01:29.28 | blast007 | though it might actually have more than 4KB of RAM in my watch |
| 01:30.07 | Epyon | spldart, I'd love to have it, but the shipping cost would have been too much :P |
| 01:30.17 | spldart | europe? |
| 01:30.23 | Epyon | yep :P |
| 01:30.27 | spldart | ic |
| 01:32.12 | spldart | It'll run xp stripped down.. 98se fairly well. slax live cd ok and a basic linux install on hdd... but with sdram .. I could throw in 96meg of that perhaps |
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| 01:36.14 | blast007 | remembers, even |
| 01:38.51 | Epyon | oh yeah... |
| 01:39.06 | Epyon | Viruses are not what they were used to be ... :/ |
| 01:39.16 | Epyon | -were |
| 01:39.31 | blast007 | there was the brain virus, and then another virus that removed the brain virus and installed itself ;D |
| 01:39.40 | CIA-23 | BZFlag: 03chaos-dev * r15358 10/trunk/bzwgen/inc/globals.h: snap(float,snapvalue) implemented |
| 01:42.55 | CIA-23 | opencombat: 03jeffm2501 * 10GPx01/GPLib/ (inc/vectorMath.h src/vectorMath.cpp): add a matrix class to the vectorMath |
| 01:43.02 | CIA-23 | BZFlag: 03chaos-dev * r15359 10/trunk/bzwgen/inc/globals.h: refinesnap(oldsnap,max) implemented |
| 01:43.32 | Epyon | JeffM, are you working on OpenCombat alone? |
| 01:43.45 | JeffM | techincaly |
| 01:44.04 | JeffM | "working on" may not be the term :) |
| 01:44.13 | Epyon | So what is the term? |
| 01:44.23 | JeffM | puttering |
| 01:44.28 | Epyon | Actually tell me more about it's status and percived future... |
| 01:44.40 | JeffM | status = none |
| 01:44.52 | Epyon | percieved* (hard english word -_-) |
| 01:45.11 | JeffM | features = 0 |
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| 01:47.21 | Epyon | Soo... don't you want to change this? |
| 01:47.34 | Epyon | I really liked what I heard about what you want it to be. |
| 01:48.12 | JeffM | change what? |
| 01:48.33 | Epyon | [03:56] <JeffM> status = none |
| 01:48.39 | Epyon | [03:56] <JeffM> features = 0 |
| 01:48.51 | JeffM | want and can are not always the same things |
| 01:49.27 | Epyon | If you have such a "hopeless" attitude to it, then why are you puttering/working on it? |
| 01:49.57 | JeffM | it is a place to store things |
| 01:50.27 | Epyon | *sigh* |
| 01:50.45 | Epyon | Okay, If you ever plan on starting to *work* on it then tell me. |
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| 01:51.19 | JeffM | mayhaps one day |
| 01:51.27 | JeffM | mostly it's just a playground for now |
| 01:52.44 | Epyon | I'd like to see it happen though. |
| 01:53.09 | JeffM | sure it'd be nice if I could pull of a full game by myself, and still hold down a full time job ;) |
| 01:53.43 | Epyon | JeffM, aren't you the one that kept bugging me "you should not be working alone" ? xP |
| 01:53.55 | JeffM | I've tried to get people into it |
| 01:53.57 | JeffM | it has failed |
| 01:54.15 | Epyon | You didn't try long enough. |
| 01:54.16 | JeffM | this is how I know that working alone can lead to failure. I've done it ;) |
| 01:54.20 | JeffM | hah |
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| 01:54.28 | JeffM | dude, you havent' been here long enough |
| 01:55.47 | Epyon | Okay, let me put that straigh -> for a longer time now I've been considering taking a closer look at the opencombat source, and maybe start even tinkering on it, but hell, you do *everything* to discourage me from it :P |
| 01:56.39 | JeffM | because it's has no source code |
| 01:56.46 | JeffM | it is not a "project" like bzflag |
| 01:56.51 | JeffM | it has not even been writen yet |
| 01:56.51 | Epyon | GPlib is sourcecode. |
| 01:56.58 | JeffM | those are nuggets |
| 01:57.24 | JeffM | it's like just having SDL |
| 01:57.28 | JeffM | there is no game part to it |
| 01:57.42 | JeffM | and I have not documented the design well enough to have other start coding on it. |
| 01:58.27 | Epyon | JeffM, great, then there's no need to try to get through tons of ununderstanable code to start working on it, and even better -- there are no tons of things made wrong that one will be annoyed that he can't change because they are too deep. There are no design decisions made "because it's classic" etc, etc... |
| 01:58.46 | JeffM | a classic? |
| 01:58.53 | JeffM | what do you think OC is? |
| 01:59.10 | Epyon | JeffM, "no climning hills, BZF is not about hills" xP |
| 01:59.21 | JeffM | no |
| 01:59.26 | Epyon | "no hitpoints, BZ is about one shot one kill" |
| 01:59.30 | Epyon | etc xP |
| 01:59.32 | JeffM | those docs are old |
| 02:00.04 | Epyon | JeffM, I don't view OC as anything more then a "idea" |
| 02:00.05 | JeffM | read the backstory |
| 02:00.27 | Epyon | Which I like, and I know I couldn't do it by myself. |
| 02:00.51 | Epyon | (mainly because I have absolutely no networking experience) |
| 02:01.25 | Epyon | And frankly, I'm getting really annoyed of doing games by myself -_- |
| 02:02.00 | JeffM | what games have you made? |
| 02:02.08 | Epyon | Roguelikes :P |
| 02:02.15 | Epyon | Plenty of roguelikes :P |
| 02:02.29 | Epyon | But currently I'm working on a 3D one. |
| 02:02.50 | JeffM | why do you do them by yourself? |
| 02:03.18 | CIA-23 | opencombat: 03jeffm2501 * 10GPx01/GPLib/ (inc/vectorMath.h src/vectorMath.cpp): add a vector utility to tell what "side" a point is on relitive to a vector in HV. |
| 02:03.19 | Epyon | Many reasons. |
| 02:03.28 | Epyon | loool JeffM :D |
| 02:03.32 | JeffM | and they are? |
| 02:03.32 | Epyon | ~JeffM++ |
| 02:04.01 | CIA-23 | opencombat: 03jeffm2501 * 10GPx01/GPLib/sample/dashboard.cpp: use the vector math class to do the neat little side test |
| 02:04.18 | JeffM | the vectorMath class is prety portable if you want to use it, it dosnt' need anything other then standard c libs |
| 02:04.53 | Epyon | Mainly because I could do them myself. |
| 02:05.23 | Epyon | And I could get all the benefits of doing it myself. |
| 02:06.14 | JeffM | benifits? |
| 02:06.38 | Epyon | Also I admit it's about vision. If the vision of the game is mine, I can't stand someone trying to change it without getting the "bigger picture". However in case of working on a shared or someone elses vision the reason doesn't apply. |
| 02:07.10 | Epyon | Benefits - fame, glory, chicks, etc xP |
| 02:07.24 | blast007 | how's that third one working out? |
| 02:07.26 | Epyon | And being able to sack donations. |
| 02:07.27 | JeffM | riiigggghhhhhttttt |
| 02:07.35 | JeffM | so greed |
| 02:07.39 | JeffM | I am not a greedy man |
| 02:07.44 | Epyon | blast007, I could use a break -_- |
| 02:07.48 | DTRemenak | you did some timed stuff, right? 7-day and such? |
| 02:08.02 | Epyon | DTRemenak, thrice even. |
| 02:08.23 | Epyon | JeffM, cool, but that doesn't mean we couldn't work together xP |
| 02:08.55 | JeffM | the project is dead for now, so I am not at a place to drop my other things and start working with others on it. that is the main reason. |
| 02:09.34 | Epyon | DTRemenak, one of those 7 day roguelikes even got a big entry on mobygames http://www.mobygames.com/game/aliens-the-roguelike :P |
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| 02:20.50 | CIA-23 | BZFlag: 03chaos-dev * r15360 10/trunk/bzwgen/ (inc/Operation.h rules/init.set src/Operation.cxx): TEXSNAP -> SNAP. Snap will now be used for geometric snap too. OperationPartition has a snapped parameter now. |
| 02:26.37 | CIA-23 | BZFlag: 03chaos-dev * r15361 10/trunk/bzwgen/ (5 files in 2 dirs): partition*s commands implemented. I need to find a cleaner way to add those options, because this is a mess -- there are 8 (!) partition* commands now :/ |
| 02:28.11 | CIA-23 | BZFlag: 03chaos-dev * r15362 10/trunk/bzwgen/src/Rule.cxx: Slight bug fixed |
| 02:35.52 | CIA-23 | BZFlag: 03chaos-dev * r15363 10/trunk/bzwgen/ (7 files in 3 dirs): Found better way - partition may take a snap parameter. |
| 02:40.39 | CIA-23 | BZFlag: 03chaos-dev * r15364 10/trunk/bzwgen/rules/ (build.set sky.set): Converted the existing partitions to take the snap parameter. Next comes subdivision |
| 02:44.32 | CIA-23 | opencombat: 03jeffm2501 * 10GPx01/GPLib/ (5 files in 3 dirs): some more uitls that need work |
| 02:44.51 | Winny | does anyone have that old "tankball 2" map? |
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| 02:52.18 | CIA-23 | BZFlag: 03chaos-dev * r15365 10/trunk/bzwgen/ (inc/Mesh.h src/Mesh.cxx): Subdivision now takes an optional snap parameter. |
| 02:56.34 | CIA-23 | BZFlag: 03chaos-dev * r15366 10/trunk/bzwgen/ (4 files in 3 dirs): snap parameter for subdivision included into the grammar. |
| 03:03.49 | brlcad | if anyone would like to write up a few "lessons learned" for gsoc (either as mentor or student, but particularly from a mentor's perspective), I'll like to incorporate them into the document |
| 03:04.15 | brlcad | bullet points to keep in mind for next year or others, things to consider, whatever |
| 03:04.42 | Epyon | We have to do that anyway for the survey, don't we? |
| 03:04.55 | brlcad | in a slightly different form |
| 03:05.04 | Epyon | BZFlag specific or general GSoC? |
| 03:05.05 | brlcad | this report is considerably different presentation-wise |
| 03:05.08 | brlcad | either |
| 03:05.39 | Epyon | Hmm I could, but no earlier than tommorow. |
| 03:05.40 | brlcad | this is basically a report going out to *everyone* else, not just to google |
| 03:06.06 | brlcad | that's fine, i've already put about 6 hours into it and i'm only about a third done |
| 03:06.18 | brlcad | so I dont' expect to finish before this weekend |
| 03:06.37 | Epyon | brlcad, remind me then about it tommorow, ok? |
| 03:07.33 | brlcad | you were still going to work on a screenshot too, iirc? or is the random one I picked fine? |
| 03:07.44 | brlcad | (44 is nice) |
| 03:07.56 | brlcad | actually, yours is probably covered |
| 03:07.58 | Epyon | Okay, I'll see if I can find a nicer one :) |
| 03:08.06 | brlcad | you had some of the easiest visuals to work with |
| 03:08.12 | Epyon | :P |
| 03:08.40 | brlcad | i don't mean it was easy for you, it was easy for me to grab good pieces and edit them as needed |
| 03:08.53 | Epyon | I know. |
| 03:09.41 | brlcad | daxxar's screenshot worked out pretty awesome |
| 03:09.54 | Epyon | link? |
| 03:10.00 | brlcad | jude's and l4m3r's are a little harder |
| 03:10.02 | brlcad | not yet |
| 03:10.11 | brlcad | not till I get the write-up in draft form |
| 03:10.20 | Epyon | to the screenshot I meant :P |
| 03:10.35 | L4m3r | if mine isn't workable, we can have another go at it |
| 03:10.40 | brlcad | 12:10 < daxxar> brlcad: http://gsoc.daxxar.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/bzrobots.png Is that OK? |
| 03:10.47 | L4m3r | but text is never gonna be that awesome :P |
| 03:10.54 | Epyon | Aaah, that one :D |
| 03:11.04 | Epyon | Yeah, it's nice ^_^ |
| 03:11.10 | Winny | L4m3r: if chuck norris wrote the text, it would be that awesome |
| 03:11.13 | brlcad | it works so well because it nearly mirrors the robocode one in color and effects |
| 03:11.25 | brlcad | and I talk about both, so it goes together well |
| 03:11.31 | brlcad | y |
| 03:11.55 | brlcad | y'all are basically getting an infobox about your project as part of a bigger "lessons learned" writeup |
| 03:12.16 | Epyon | ~brlcad++ |
| 03:12.27 | Winny | wooo... jay leno is on soon |
| 03:12.27 | Epyon | (yeah, I know you have always 1 :P) |
| 03:12.28 | Winny | bbl |
| 03:12.59 | brlcad | back to the original point though .. if DTRemenak or Manu or menotume or whomever else is/was involved at some point on the mentoring point has some bullets, send em on over |
| 03:23.38 | Epyon | WOAH! 17MB bzw o.O |
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| 03:36.41 | Constitution | Epyon: pong |
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| 03:53.28 | L4m3r | wahooooooo |
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| 03:58.20 | CIA-23 | BZFlag: 03chaos-dev * r15367 10/trunk/bzwgen/ (rules/build.set src/Mesh.cxx): Finally! After a lot of debugging the subdivision with SNAP works! :D |
| 03:58.36 | Epyon | Constitution, how about taking care of the new textures? |
| 03:58.55 | Epyon | there are two new textures to download :) |
| 03:59.10 | Epyon | Also, I'd like you to see if the recent version compiles |
| 03:59.45 | JeffM | DTRemenak, you arround? |
| 04:02.04 | Constitution | Epyon: okay, I'll check it out |
| 04:05.49 | CIA-23 | BZFlag: 03chaos-dev * r15368 10/trunk/bzwgen/rules/build.set: All snap and texture problems solved! :D |
| 04:06.16 | CIA-23 | BZFlag: 03chaos-dev * r15369 10/trunk/bzwgen/TODO: TODO entry fulfilled! |
| 04:06.26 | Epyon | Constitution, try this version. |
| 04:06.39 | Epyon | It's the most "proper" one yet :D |
| 04:07.18 | TimRiker | eep. bzflag.org zone just hiccupped |
| 04:07.37 | TimRiker | typo on my part. |
| 04:08.01 | TimRiker | :) |
| 04:08.37 | Constitution | Epyon: ah, a map size that's not in excess of 13.2GB... how nice ;-) |
| 04:10.18 | Epyon | Constitution, you can always try to run with -l 2 |
| 04:10.28 | Epyon | GB??? o.O |
| 04:11.12 | Constitution | a mild exaggeration ;-) |
| 04:11.29 | Epyon | They stick around 5-6MB now. |
| 04:11.40 | Epyon | It would be less, but I added texcoords :/ |
| 04:16.09 | AWOSLappy | spldart: ping |
| 04:16.16 | Epyon | AWOSLappy: ping |
| 04:16.24 | Epyon | Constitution: ping |
| 04:16.35 | Epyon | DTRemenak: ping |
| 04:17.06 | Constitution | Epyon: pong |
| 04:18.40 | Epyon | Constitution, so, did it compile? |
| 04:18.44 | JeffM | anyone know how to use xfs_admin? >) |
| 04:18.54 | Constitution | yes it did |
| 04:19.04 | Constitution | server is running latest version |
| 04:20.08 | AWOSLappy | Epyon: pong |
| 04:20.41 | AWOSLappy | Epyon: ? |
| 04:24.08 | TimRiker | ~bzfquery xmission.bzflag.org |
| 04:24.13 | AWOSLappy | O_o? |
| 04:24.19 | Constitution | ;-) |
| 04:25.13 | Epyon | ~bzfquery fairserve.bzflag.org:5258 |
| 04:25.38 | Epyon | Constitution, have you seen it? |
| 04:25.56 | Constitution | yep |
| 04:26.09 | Epyon | The texturing has been improved as well as grid based subdivision and partition :) |
| 04:26.52 | Constitution | cool |
| 04:36.49 | Epyon | Cmon and join the fun :D |
| 04:36.55 | Epyon | At fairserve :D |
| 04:43.08 | AWOSLappy | Epyon: little busy right now, maybe in a few |
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| 05:39.23 | L4m3r | what is the phoenix plug-in? it's in the 2.0.x source tree. |
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| 05:53.22 | JeffM | it makes you spawn where you die |
| 05:54.24 | L4m3r | ah |
| 05:55.13 | ruskie | hmm sounds fun |
| 05:55.32 | JeffM | it's intended for race servers |
| 05:55.42 | JeffM | so that a kill is only a short pause |
| 05:55.46 | JeffM | wipeout style |
| 05:56.23 | L4m3r | hm... |
| 05:57.04 | L4m3r | I guess making a class that's derived from the bz event handler AND the irc event handler is just asking for it, eh? XD |
| 05:57.42 | JeffM | nope |
| 05:57.50 | L4m3r | the process functions wouldn't overlap since they have different params |
| 05:57.50 | JeffM | they don't share any method names do they? |
| 05:57.54 | L4m3r | but it still seems messy |
| 05:58.01 | JeffM | I do it all the time :) |
| 05:58.08 | JeffM | that's the entire point of them being classes :) |
| 05:58.11 | L4m3r | they share process |
| 05:58.19 | L4m3r | but the params are different |
| 05:58.29 | JeffM | then it's a difrent method :) |
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| 06:22.37 | AWOSLappy | Constitution: I'm alone...?! |
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| 06:23.26 | Epyon | Where? |
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| 06:26.14 | jude- | hello all |
| 06:28.05 | L4m3r | evening, jude- |
| 06:28.26 | CIA-23 | BZFlag: 03judecn * r15370 10/trunk/bzworkbench/ (4 files in 3 dirs): |
| 06:28.26 | CIA-23 | BZFlag: Groups are fully functonal within the Model, selected groups can move as |
| 06:28.26 | CIA-23 | BZFlag: one object, and saving works properly. Still need to add the proposed |
| 06:28.26 | CIA-23 | BZFlag: ring-shaped geometry to groups to graphically separate them from |
| 06:28.26 | CIA-23 | BZFlag: non-groups. |
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| 06:32.43 | CIA-23 | BZFlag: 03judecn * r15371 10/trunk/bzworkbench/ (include/objects/group.h objects/group.cpp): ...and now it builds properly |
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| 06:42.38 | CIA-23 | BZFlag: 03judecn * r15372 10/trunk/bzworkbench/model/Model.cpp: Added the ability to ungroup |
| 06:55.39 | AWOSLappy | Hey jude- |
| 06:55.44 | AWOSLappy | how is bzwb going? |
| 06:55.48 | AWOSLappy | how's life? |
| 06:55.53 | AWOSLappy | did you win GSoC? |
| 06:56.24 | jude- | Hello AWOSLappy |
| 06:56.39 | jude- | BZWB is somewhere between alpha and beta at this point |
| 06:56.48 | AWOSLappy | neat |
| 06:56.53 | AWOSLappy | so it's like AWOS :) |
| 06:57.06 | jude- | the features that are implemented mostly work, but a lot of objects aren't supported yet |
| 06:57.17 | AWOSLappy | okay, it's _exactly_ like AWOS :P |
| 06:57.30 | AWOSLappy | the kernel is basically done, but nothing much works in user mode :P |
| 06:57.35 | jude- | heh |
| 06:57.44 | jude- | fortunately, BZWB sees objects as plug-ins |
| 06:57.56 | jude- | and it has a collection of APIs to facilitate their development |
| 06:58.03 | AWOSLappy | like AWOS' drivers. |
| 06:58.12 | jude- | ...so, if I'm hit by a bus, others will be able to pick up on it's completion with ease :) |
| 06:58.19 | AWOSLappy | jude-: we have the same projects, even though they are so similar :P |
| 06:58.27 | jude- | heh |
| 06:58.29 | jude- | indeed |
| 06:58.38 | AWOSLappy | s/similar/different/ |
| 06:58.40 | AWOSLappy | :) |
| 06:58.44 | jude- | I knew what you meant |
| 06:58.46 | AWOSLappy | yeah. |
| 06:59.02 | jude- | unfortunately, BZWB development is slowing down for me...fall semester has already started here :/ |
| 06:59.32 | jude- | I'm still going to work on it, obviously, simply for fun...but not as much |
| 06:59.41 | jude- | simply for lack of time |
| 07:00.09 | jude- | ...so, the last bit of GSoC has been spent improving the mini-SDK it will ship with and focusing on esoteric object and editor-specific features |
| 07:00.27 | jude- | (i.e. ones that will be difficult for the uninformed to implement) |
| 07:00.51 | AWOSLappy | Ahh. |
| 07:01.04 | AWOSLappy | can I d/l it and make a real world with it? |
| 07:01.07 | AWOSLappy | and play with it?? |
| 07:01.09 | jude- | yes |
| 07:01.16 | jude- | 1.7.x objects, at least :/ |
| 07:01.30 | AWOSLappy | jude-: I'll be happy with walls and bases :) |
| 07:01.38 | jude- | cones are supported, as well as simple material parsing (creating them...not so much yet :/ ) |
| 07:01.47 | AWOSLappy | material? |
| 07:01.53 | jude- | materials |
| 07:01.59 | jude- | the are supported as of BZFlag 2.0 |
| 07:02.05 | AWOSLappy | I don't want to make a Epyon-esque city map |
| 07:02.06 | jude- | and can be applied to BZFlag 2.0 objects |
| 07:02.15 | jude- | kk, then BZWB works perfectly for you :) |
| 07:02.25 | jude- | boxes, pyramids, teleporters |
| 07:02.26 | AWOSLappy | just a simple map. nothing more than pillbox would use :) |
| 07:02.35 | jude- | water level, options, world size |
| 07:02.40 | AWOSLappy | neat |
| 07:02.41 | AWOSLappy | :) |
| 07:03.10 | jude- | teleporter links...we're getting there (needs a good geometry generation method) |
| 07:04.03 | jude- | ...but clicking "Link Teleporters" from the menu *will* create "link" map objects in the files that actually work :) |
| 07:04.12 | jude- | (they just don't show up graphically...yet) |
| 07:04.52 | AWOSLappy | ahh. |
| 07:04.55 | AWOSLappy | what are zones? |
| 07:06.07 | AWOSLappy | nothing much else in Google for bzworkbench |
| 07:06.16 | AWOSLappy | where does one download from? |
| 07:06.18 | jude- | zones...are regions of a map specified by the developer for spawning players and flags |
| 07:06.20 | AWOSLappy | is it on the bzflag svn? |
| 07:06.21 | jude- | ~bzwb |
| 07:06.26 | jude- | ~bzworkbench |
| 07:06.26 | ibot | i heard bzworkbench is a bzflag world file editor being developed by jude-, or http://bzworkbench.wordpress.com/ |
| 07:06.40 | jude- | yeah, it's in svn |
| 07:06.46 | jude- | I guess no one told ibot :) |
| 07:07.02 | jude- | https://bzflag.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/bzflag/trunk/bzworkbench |
| 07:08.07 | AWOSLappy | hehe, okay |
| 07:08.17 | AWOSLappy | jude-: your about page is a Wordpress placeholder, fyi |
| 07:08.20 | jude- | AWOSLappy: the latest screenies are on the blog (the ones on my arizona.edu site are just mock-ups) |
| 07:08.26 | jude- | I know :) |
| 07:08.41 | jude- | no need to put anything there just yet |
| 07:08.49 | AWOSLappy | ahh okay |
| 07:09.19 | AWOSLappy | glad to see it running on X... |
| 07:09.21 | AWOSLappy | um... |
| 07:09.26 | AWOSLappy | does it run on win32 at all? |
| 07:09.39 | jude- | yes...with difficulty :/ |
| 07:09.58 | jude- | you'll need to build OpenSceneGraph 2.0 from source |
| 07:10.09 | jude- | the ones OSG has for download crash on Windows :/ |
| 07:10.24 | AWOSLappy | oooooooof. |
| 07:10.27 | jude- | ...and building it requires some hacking of the build process (which is really, really weird) |
| 07:10.33 | AWOSLappy | ugh. |
| 07:10.44 | jude- | you might want to talk to DTRemenak about it...he's the only one I know who actually got it to run :) |
| 07:10.51 | AWOSLappy | hehe, okay :) |
| 07:11.03 | AWOSLappy | maybe you can add me to that list of people soon :) |
| 07:11.08 | jude- | hehe |
| 07:11.09 | AWOSLappy | DTRemenak: Non-box-related ping! |
| 07:12.24 | jude- | you'll need VC7.1 |
| 07:12.36 | jude- | ...and VC6, oddly enough :/ |
| 07:13.01 | jude- | ...also, I'm not even sure how recent BZWB's vcproj files are :/ |
| 07:14.37 | AWOSLappy | I have both. |
| 07:14.48 | AWOSLappy | O_o |
| 07:15.36 | jude- | it *might* run in Cygwin if you have it installed (haven't tested it, though) |
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| 07:20.10 | CIA-23 | BZFlag: 03judecn * r15373 10/trunk/bzworkbench/ (include/objects/group.h objects/group.cpp): |
| 07:20.10 | CIA-23 | BZFlag: Added graphical representation of object grouping. Currently, group |
| 07:20.10 | CIA-23 | BZFlag: rotation and scaling are not implemented, but translation is. |
| 07:20.25 | jude- | ...and now, I shall go to bed |
| 07:20.33 | AWOSLappy | jude-: don't be commitin while I'm checkin out! |
| 07:20.35 | AWOSLappy | hehe |
| 07:20.38 | AWOSLappy | okay, nn jude- :) |
| 07:20.39 | jude- | lol |
| 07:22.04 | Constitution | Epyon: safety zones would be a nice addition |
| 07:24.16 | Epyon | Safety zones |
| 07:24.18 | Epyon | ? |
| 07:24.42 | Constitution | flag safety zones |
| 07:24.59 | Constitution | so when you drop your flag over an opponent's base, it flies back to yours |
| 07:25.24 | ruskie | or whatever other defined zone :) |
| 07:25.33 | Constitution | right |
| 07:26.57 | AWOSLappy | nice. |
| 07:27.01 | AWOSLappy | bzf has that |
| 07:30.25 | AWOSLappy | wow...it actually didn't crash |
| 07:33.53 | AWOSLappy | um, that's not normal. |
| 07:34.08 | AWOSLappy | but really neat. seems my laptop overclocks itself when under extreme load |
| 07:34.48 | AWOSLappy | this 1600MHz Celeron ran at 1693MHz for a sec there |
| 07:39.36 | L4m3r | some boards do that |
| 07:40.07 | L4m3r | there were some MSI desktop boards that'd OC up to 10% |
| 07:46.57 | AWOSLappy | L4m3r: this is a 4-year-old laptop |
| 07:47.00 | AWOSLappy | :P |
| 07:47.26 | AWOSLappy | anyways, night all |
| 07:47.28 | L4m3r | so? |
| 07:47.52 | L4m3r | cellys are known for their OC capability, especially the old ones |
| 07:47.56 | AWOSLappy | L4m3r: hehe |
| 07:48.05 | AWOSLappy | I know, I just wasn't expecting it...specially on a lappy board |
| 07:48.43 | AWOSLappy | L4m3r: I must go... we can talk more tomorrow :) |
| 07:48.47 | AWOSLappy | night :) |
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| 09:03.06 | lepoulpe304 | is there any mean to know if someone has been affected to translation of bzflag in a given language ? |
| 09:03.41 | ruskie | erm |
| 09:04.30 | lepoulpe304 | i'm about to execute french translation, but i dislike to work for nothing |
| 09:04.57 | ruskie | already done |
| 09:05.13 | lepoulpe303 | k |
| 09:05.25 | lepoulpe303 | not in SVN then |
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| 09:05.53 | lepoulpe303 | oh wait |
| 09:06.09 | ruskie | run bzflag and check under gui settings -> locale |
| 09:06.20 | lepoulpe303 | sry didn't noticed the # in front of the line (shame shame shame) |
| 09:07.14 | Epyon | The horror, the beer is almost gone! |
| 09:11.16 | ts | Pffft, who needs beer? :p |
| 09:11.32 | Epyon | *ME* -_- |
| 09:12.39 | brlcad | heh |
| 09:13.48 | lepoulpe303 | one for me too !!! |
| 09:14.07 | lepoulpe303 | (half liter if possible) |
| 09:14.27 | lepoulpe303 | *hips* |
| 09:14.41 | lepoulpe303 | i can see the # now |
| 09:15.47 | lepoulpe303 | i would like to put myself in c++ and bzflag code, but dunno where to start |
| 09:16.06 | Epyon | GSoC xP |
| 09:19.32 | lepoulpe303 | i'm stuck on the "Play" step in the pre flight check list ;) |
| 09:19.56 | Epyon | Don't worry, I am always on the bottom of the list :P |
| 09:21.50 | daxxar | Hayhay |
| 09:24.34 | daxxar | 05:11:13 < brlcad> it works so well because it nearly mirrors the robocode one in color and effects |
| 09:24.37 | daxxar | Hum? |
| 09:25.04 | Epyon | daxxar, the screenshot :P |
| 09:25.11 | daxxar | What robocode screenshot :p |
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| 09:49.12 | brlcad | daxxar: pay no mind, it'll make more sense later ;) |
| 09:51.25 | brlcad | lepoulpe303: one of three places is usually a great way to start (and to work towards commit access) -- 1) go through the BUGS file or bug tracker, pick one, fix it; 2) go through the TODO file or feature request tracker, pick one, implement it; 3) go through the patches tracker, pick an old one, update it to the latest code and test it (make sure it works) |
| 09:51.39 | brlcad | any one of those three will slowly expose you to code, and get you started |
| 09:51.49 | brlcad | and they're probably in order of harder to easier |
| 09:52.41 | brlcad | as well as most beneficial to least beneficial (simply because they're harder) |
| 09:52.58 | brlcad | though all beneficial, of course, so if you're gonna start, doesn't matter which end |
| 10:03.02 | lepoulpe303 | brlcad: ok thanks ! i'll try to have a look to the patches first then |
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| 10:30.07 | daxxar | Hey, will I still have commit-access after gsoc, brlcad? ;) |
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| 10:51.26 | brlcad | daxxar: heh |
| 10:51.43 | daxxar | Btw, working on getPlayers() atm |
| 10:51.49 | daxxar | Haha ;-) |
| 10:52.03 | brlcad | cool |
| 10:52.23 | brlcad | so I can hunt for if (player[i] == "daxxar") soon.. |
| 10:52.37 | daxxar | Haha ;-) |
| 10:52.43 | daxxar | right ;) |
| 10:53.43 | brlcad | what a productive night of coding that was |
| 10:53.51 | brlcad | now I just need some breakfast |
| 10:54.02 | brlcad | and a shower |
| 10:54.05 | daxxar | Hehe ;-) |
| 10:56.20 | daxxar | I'm spending productive time in Digital techniques and computers |
| 10:56.41 | daxxar | Instead of learning how to convert between binary, octal, hexadecimal and decimal, I code bzrobots ;) |
| 10:58.36 | daxxar | Meh, it's so annoying that bzflag doesn't use exceptions :p |
| 10:58.42 | daxxar | doesn't even allow for use of exceptions |
| 11:15.01 | brlcad | awesome |
| 11:15.30 | brlcad | meh, exceptions are overrated and generally 'exceptionally' inefficient |
| 11:23.42 | brlcad | useful if you adopt them fully, but not piecemeal -- it'd take a pretty massive set of changes to adopt exceptions as the failure mode in bz, and for a net gain of pretty much zero :) |
| 12:37.32 | daxxar | Yeah, true. |
| 12:37.59 | daxxar | But it's annoying to not be able to do try { foo = new Foo(); } catch (somectorexception e) { .. } |
| 12:38.11 | daxxar | Now I do foo.parse(bar, baz); |
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| 16:12.31 | JeffM | delusional_, did you ever get your question answered about the border material |
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| 18:08.02 | KTL | JeffM, while trying to get my opengl images outputted to eps i encounter glutSetCursor, my program does not use glut yet and adding i don't want to rewrite half my prog for it |
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| 18:10.35 | JeffM | KTL, openGL images? |
| 18:10.44 | JeffM | you mean screenshots? |
| 18:10.50 | KTL | yes but vector based :) |
| 18:10.53 | JeffM | are you using STL? or native stuf? |
| 18:11.14 | JeffM | sorry SDL |
| 18:11.16 | JeffM | not STL |
| 18:11.21 | KTL | sdl |
| 18:11.38 | KTL | but i currently ... doubt that the glut is necesarr |
| 18:11.39 | KTL | y |
| 18:11.46 | JeffM | no you don't need glut |
| 18:11.47 | KTL | not that i understand fully what that call does |
| 18:11.50 | JeffM | there is an SDL way to do it |
| 18:11.52 | JeffM | let me find it |
| 18:12.08 | KTL | oe oe cool :) |
| 18:12.32 | JeffM | SDL_ShowCursor(SDL_DISABLE); |
| 18:12.41 | JeffM | then SDL_ShowCursor(SDL_ENABLE); to turn it back on |
| 18:13.20 | KTL | it did not crash :) |
| 18:13.25 | JeffM | why would it? |
| 18:14.11 | KTL | my insight in gl is not so great |
| 18:14.34 | JeffM | why are you trying to turn raster images into vector images? |
| 18:14.57 | KTL | well i made a program as a project work and i also have to deliver a paper |
| 18:15.14 | KTL | so i could put bitmap screenshots in the latex paper |
| 18:15.20 | KTL | but those are so ugly |
| 18:15.35 | JeffM | if you want EPS output from GL I'd think it'd be simpler to just hijack the low level GL calls and then convert that to a vector format, you loose a lot less info |
| 18:16.03 | KTL | well i don't have a lot of info: no lights, no textures ... |
| 18:16.04 | JeffM | or use an existing raster to vector converter like streamline. |
| 18:16.19 | JeffM | well less info is less GL that you have to emulate then :) |
| 18:16.30 | JeffM | means you just need to do the prim loops, and the transforms |
| 18:16.54 | JeffM | I did a GL overide once to save out the Gl calls to an obj file |
| 18:17.00 | JeffM | that's how I got the model of the BZ tank. |
| 18:17.22 | KTL | ... where did it come from?? |
| 18:17.31 | JeffM | where did what come from? |
| 18:17.46 | KTL | the bz tank? the one that is in use in the main bzflag client? |
| 18:18.04 | JeffM | the tank was hardcoded by it's author origonaly |
| 18:18.18 | JeffM | I wanted to get it out as a Real OBJ model to be used in external apps |
| 18:18.30 | KTL | nice work :D |
| 18:18.30 | JeffM | since apps can't read c code that just calls GL :) |
| 18:18.57 | JeffM | it was simple, I just wrote my own glBegin() glEnd(), and the vertex and normal calls |
| 18:19.13 | JeffM | what type of projection are you doing? |
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| 18:19.22 | JeffM | orthographic? or perspective? |
| 18:19.38 | KTL | glMatrixMode(GL_PROJECTION); ? glMatrixMode(GL_MODELVIEW); |
| 18:19.38 | KTL | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:19.45 | JeffM | so perspective |
| 18:20.02 | JeffM | well, do you call gluPerspective? or gluOrtho? |
| 18:20.14 | KTL | gluPerspective |
| 18:20.23 | JeffM | then your doing perspective |
| 18:20.42 | JeffM | you'd have to do the same perspective transform of the vector data |
| 18:20.48 | JeffM | but that's not that hard |
| 18:21.03 | KTL | i will puzzle with it till i have it :) |
| 18:21.04 | JeffM | just grab the GL matrixes and use em :) |
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| 18:28.11 | menotume | brlcad spoketh my name ? |
| 18:31.04 | Epyon | Good morning :) |
| 18:31.33 | CBG | ~menotume++ |
| 18:42.04 | TD-Linux | hi Epyon! |
| 18:42.16 | TD-Linux | the UVs look great! <3 |
| 18:42.54 | TD-Linux | the polygons overlapping with the grass still look weird, though - but I can't think of any good fixes short of a hack. |
| 18:47.05 | Winny | menotume: ping |
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| 18:55.30 | brlcad | menotume: maybe |
| 18:57.13 | brlcad | if you had any suggestions, comments, or "lessons learned" that you'd like me to include in a GSoC report I'm putting together |
| 18:57.35 | brlcad | same for you too, JeffM .. you weren't around when I mentioned I'm looking for feedback to publish |
| 18:59.25 | brlcad | *nudge*DTRemenak*nudge* |
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| 19:27.42 | blast007 | Epyon: do you have access to the apache config? |
| 19:27.51 | Epyon | Nope |
| 19:27.53 | blast007 | then you probably don't |
| 19:28.10 | Epyon | blast007, I know some people managed to do that :/ |
| 19:28.22 | blast007 | I have it set up on my dedicated host |
| 19:28.24 | Epyon | via svn+ssh |
| 19:28.29 | blast007 | hmm |
| 19:29.12 | blast007 | do you need it to be a public source tree? or is it just for your own useage? |
| 19:29.21 | Epyon | Just for my own |
| 19:29.44 | blast007 | any linux machine at your house? ;) |
| 19:30.22 | Epyon | Well this one I'm typing on WILL be a linux machine as soon as I get my PC back :P |
| 19:30.47 | blast007 | hehe |
| 19:30.50 | Epyon | If the shared host thing fails, I'm gonna set up SVN on this computer in a home network :) |
| 19:31.00 | blast007 | the SVN documentation is pretty good |
| 19:31.13 | blast007 | I followed a tutorial first, then filled in the gaps with the SVN docs |
| 19:31.20 | Epyon | I guess it's better to set up SVN repo on a different machine even if at the same place. |
| 19:32.41 | blast007 | Epyon: http://unfuddle.com/home (limited space for free accounts though) |
| 19:34.25 | Epyon | blast007, isn't it slooow? |
| 19:35.31 | blast007 | why do you say that? |
| 19:35.54 | Epyon | I tried one free and it was slow as hell :/ |
| 19:36.41 | blast007 | this one has paid accounts too |
| 19:36.48 | blast007 | 15MB space limit for free accounts |
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| 19:37.49 | donny_baker | Epyon: svn+shh mini-tut http://svn.haxx.se/dev/archive-2004-03/0253.shtml |
| 19:41.34 | blast007 | seems like that needs root access |
| 19:41.46 | Epyon | which I don't have :? |
| 19:42.07 | blast007 | hmm, maybe not though |
| 19:42.31 | blast007 | with the paths they use you would, but you can probably just point to your home directory |
| 19:43.13 | blast007 | ah.. |
| 19:43.15 | blast007 | su - svnadm (log into svnadm user) |
| 19:43.21 | Epyon | :/ |
| 19:43.22 | blast007 | that won't work for you ;) |
| 19:45.41 | KTL | w00t i can output my opengl to eps now |
| 19:56.25 | Epyon | Kay, seems my existing svn works better now than it did before. |
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| 19:56.47 | Epyon | Too bad all the recent versions of my projects were on the PC that is in repair :/ |
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| 20:16.25 | Birdie | hmm reported hits 2, computed hits 23, 114 lag |
| 20:16.30 | Birdie | isnt that quite fishy? |
| 20:22.53 | TD-Linux | quite. |
| 20:23.31 | Birdie | it was like a bullets through festival on my screan |
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| 20:27.22 | Winny | how long has HiX been around? |
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| 20:31.35 | CIA-23 | BZFlag: 03chaos-dev * r15375 10/trunk/bzwgen/rules/build.set: Reduced the number of gigantic skyscrapers |
| 20:32.59 | JeffM | Winny, check the history of the file. |
| 20:33.22 | CBG | http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=browse&group_id=3248&atid=423059&set=open&offset=100 |
| 20:33.41 | CBG | That shows Hix2.0. Hix original is on he next 50 page. The first map listed there. |
| 20:33.47 | CBG | 2001-10-26 15:48 |
| 20:34.27 | Winny | thanks :D |
| 20:34.45 | JeffM | IIRC hix was one of the first maps used to test map loading. |
| 20:34.51 | CBG | That date is before the (current) bzbb opened (Dec 02). |
| 20:35.03 | CBG | So, it would seem to be the first map ever "released". |
| 20:35.27 | JeffM | it was added to CVS in march of 2001 |
| 20:35.29 | Constitution | CBG: there's also a map release area on sourceforge |
| 20:35.37 | JeffM | Constitution, that's what he linked to. |
| 20:35.53 | JeffM | it seems it wasn't put into SF untill october of 2001 |
| 20:36.02 | Constitution | oh |
| 20:36.11 | TD-Linux | Constitution, your server crashed right after a mine was fired |
| 20:36.19 | TD-Linux | it restarted though |
| 20:36.22 | Constitution | TD-Linux: epyon's? |
| 20:36.26 | TD-Linux | yes. |
| 20:37.54 | CBG | Constitution: Yes, see my link.. ;) |
| 20:38.04 | Constitution | CBG: yeah, my bad :) |
| 20:38.13 | CBG | np :P |
| 20:41.20 | Dessy | argh! |
| 20:41.22 | Dessy | :P |
| 20:41.35 | Dessy | this irc client wont open the url :D |
| 20:43.53 | AAA_awright | Ah, the Xmission server :) |
| 20:44.42 | JeffM | brlcad, I'm sure your away, but just FYI, I sent you my SoC comments and notes to your .bz mail. |
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| 20:48.34 | AWOSLappy | SportChick! and on #bzflag! |
| 20:48.47 | SportChick | AWOSLappy: I've been here longer than you :) |
| 20:48.49 | diing | hehe i just got banned from the forums again guess jeff cought me |
| 20:48.59 | JeffM | that's what ban means |
| 20:49.01 | JeffM | the first time |
| 20:49.17 | diing | ui didnt even do nething wrong |
| 20:49.26 | diing | doh I* |
| 20:49.29 | AWOSLappy | diing: didn't I see you on tanner's map yesterday? |
| 20:49.35 | AWOSLappy | SportChick: I know :) |
| 20:49.42 | JeffM | you were baned from the froums for your actions |
| 20:49.49 | AWOSLappy | SportChick: how's the arm? good enough to maybe play some bz with me this weekend? :) |
| 20:49.49 | JeffM | you circumvented that |
| 20:50.05 | SportChick | AWOSLappy: don't chat on this channel - use the other |
| 20:50.11 | AWOSLappy | mmkay. |
| 20:50.12 | diing | im rrunning out of places to make new email accoutns cmon jeff |
| 20:50.34 | JeffM | I guess you don't understand the concept of ban then |
| 20:50.50 | AWOSLappy | diing: lol. when you are banned, it means you aren't welcome. |
| 20:51.11 | diing | hehe u dont know the concept of dynamic ip i guess |
| 20:51.13 | AWOSLappy | diing: making a new email account to get around the ban only makes the admins more upset. maybe you should just play it cool and sit out the ban. |
| 20:51.28 | JeffM | yes do, why do you think I keep updating your ban |
| 20:51.48 | diing | hehe |
| 20:51.53 | gsnedders | diing: people are banned for a reason. there's no point in making it worse by evading it. |
| 20:52.00 | gsnedders | diing: you're just making it worse for yourself. |
| 20:52.19 | diing | so jeff its a forever ban right |
| 20:52.26 | JeffM | nothing is forever |
| 20:52.42 | JeffM | one day when you've grown up a bit, we can talk about it |
| 20:52.44 | diing | well untill end of bzflag as we know it right |
| 20:52.50 | JeffM | no |
| 20:52.57 | JeffM | you just need to mature |
| 20:53.04 | JeffM | learn to get along with people |
| 20:53.06 | JeffM | etc... |
| 20:53.10 | AWOSLappy | diing: you just need to settle. calm down, wait a few months, see if your attitude changes. socialise a little. |
| 20:53.33 | diing | hehe im mature enough to know that wen some1 is acctualy adding to the content of my game i dont ban them |
| 20:53.41 | Winny | diing: maturity. it'll come. |
| 20:53.51 | JeffM | you can still do whatever you want from the game |
| 20:53.59 | Winny | You obviously aren't mature now, you can barely type. |
| 20:54.00 | CBG | SO WAT IF HE HAS NO LIVE LEAVE HIM ALONE!!!!!!!!!! |
| 20:54.01 | JeffM | you are just not welcome on the fourms. |
| 20:54.03 | AWOSLappy | diing: "wen some1"...that isn't exactly mature... |
| 20:54.06 | diing | can yall pls stgop privat messaging me |
| 20:54.22 | Winny | "Can you all please stop"* |
| 20:54.26 | diing | lol cbg u read my post |
| 20:54.31 | JeffM | diing, they can do what ever they want, it's an open system |
| 20:54.35 | AWOSLappy | diing: yes, that's another thing. you can still play the game...why even care? |
| 20:54.40 | CBG | I read all posts. |
| 20:54.50 | Erroneous | Winny: "y'all" is a fine word, thanks very much |
| 20:55.01 | diing | aww i cant respond to private messages |
| 20:55.02 | CBG | I can't possibly miss any chances to bash noobs and munchkins. |
| 20:55.05 | Winny | diing: the moral of the story is, learn to listen to what people TRY to tell you, and you'll become much more respected. |
| 20:55.06 | JeffM | you have not been banned from the game, just the froums. |
| 20:55.12 | diing | im getting 8 at a time |
| 20:55.19 | JeffM | welcome to the real world skip |
| 20:55.29 | JeffM | deal with your own stuff privately please |
| 20:55.36 | Winny | diing: its not a PM. When someone says your name, the IRC client highlights it. |
| 20:55.38 | diing | wat good is that when i cant post my maps on the forums |
| 20:55.47 | JeffM | post them elsewhere |
| 20:55.49 | JeffM | I don't care |
| 20:56.26 | diing | hehe ok ill post them on ur 10million blog sites |
| 20:56.26 | JeffM | you shoudl have thougt about that before you went off verbaly assulting people, tell us that we lie, etc... |
| 20:56.31 | diing | like i can fly w/o wings hehe |
| 20:56.33 | JeffM | diing, then you will be banned from the game. |
| 20:56.40 | JeffM | if you abbuse people |
| 20:56.51 | JeffM | just think about it, and grow up a little |
| 20:57.02 | JeffM | you were warned about it a great number of times. |
| 20:57.05 | JeffM | by myself and others. |
| 20:57.11 | diing | all i said was the admins curse on the forums hahaha |
| 20:57.13 | CBG | You cheat, diing? |
| 20:57.16 | JeffM | no you did not |
| 20:57.18 | JeffM | I have logs |
| 20:57.24 | JeffM | you always seem to forget that |
| 20:57.34 | diing | tell me what i said then |
| 20:57.39 | JeffM | just chill, post the maps on your own website for a while. |
| 20:57.49 | gsnedders | and if you behave like you do here on the game, you'll quickly get banned from the majority of the servers that any number of people play on. |
| 20:57.54 | JeffM | this is not the place for it, if you'd like to discuss it in private, you are free to do so. |
| 20:58.16 | diing | hehe ill post them on one of ur blog sites jeff as a reply to one of ur blogs |
| 20:58.28 | gsnedders | there's no point in lamenting endlessly about getting banned once. it won't get you anywhere. |
| 20:58.36 | JeffM | diing, that has nothing to do with the fourms, so that's a seperate issue. |
| 20:58.47 | SportChick | may I suggest dropping the issue here, as it's no longer a relevant topic? |
| 20:58.52 | gsnedders | life gets far worse than this. get used to it. |
| 20:58.53 | JeffM | exactly |
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| 20:59.24 | JeffM | diing, please stop discussin bans here |
| 20:59.27 | JeffM | you've been answered |
| 20:59.32 | JeffM | if you continue we will have to remove you |
| 20:59.40 | Winny | diing: if you think behaving like that will get you anywhere in life, go right on ahead. |
| 20:59.48 | JeffM | Winny, let it go please |
| 20:59.53 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o SportChick] by ChanServ |
| 20:59.58 | Winny | JeffM: just pointing it out |
| 20:59.58 | diing | and everyone else using th zeebrother link too i suppose jeff |
| 21:00.03 | *** mode/#bzflag [+b %*!*@gateway/web/cgi-irc/zeebrothers.net/x-6e2a8112a66e2203] by SportChick |
| 21:00.06 | CBG | Such as, diing? |
| 21:00.24 | JeffM | Winny, I know but the topic is closed here, let it sit |
| 21:00.28 | JeffM | or take it in private |
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| 21:02.25 | *** mode/#bzflag [+b %*!*@gateway/web/cgi-irc/zeebrothers.net/x-bb010103b0e243d6] by SportChick |
| 21:02.56 | donny_baker | ~SportChick++ |
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| 21:03.06 | *** mode/#bzflag [+b %*!*@gateway/web/cgi-irc/zeebrothers.net/x-5b206318240fa64e] by SportChick |
| 21:03.28 | *** mode/#bzflag [+b %*!*@gateway/web/cgi/irc/zeebrothers.net/*] by SportChick |
| 21:03.32 | JeffM | there ya go |
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| 21:03.43 | bryjen | wildcards wtf! |
| 21:03.49 | *** mode/#bzflag [-b 15!*@*] by SportChick |
| 21:03.56 | JeffM | I think you mean FTW |
| 21:03.57 | JeffM | ;) |
| 21:04.04 | *** mode/#bzflag [-b %*!*@gateway/web/cgi-irc/zeebrothers.net/x-6e2a8112a66e2203] by Erroneous |
| 21:04.04 | *** mode/#bzflag [-b %*!*@gateway/web/cgi-irc/zeebrothers.net/x-5b206318240fa64e] by SportChick |
| 21:04.05 | AWOSLappy | \o/! |
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| 21:04.09 | zee970 | btw jeff i was about to post on forums im leaving bzflag wen u banned |
| 21:04.10 | *** mode/#bzflag [-b %*!*@gateway/web/cgi-irc/zeebrothers.net/x-bb010103b0e243d6] by Erroneous |
| 21:04.15 | zee970 | hehe |
| 21:04.21 | JeffM | I know |
| 21:04.22 | JeffM | bye |
| 21:04.23 | JeffM | have fun |
| 21:04.23 | zee970 | i win |
| 21:04.29 | JeffM | umm ok |
| 21:04.31 | JeffM | good luck |
| 21:04.33 | tannerld | ~Erroneous++ |
| 21:04.36 | JeffM | have fun with your prize |
| 21:04.38 | SportChick | thanks, err, was working on that |
| 21:04.46 | AWOSLappy | ~SportChick++ |
| 21:04.46 | Winny | can I win too? |
| 21:04.47 | zee970 | did the post get thru jeff |
| 21:04.53 | AWOSLappy | Winny: you're Winny. you always win :P |
| 21:04.56 | JeffM | you left, go |
| 21:04.57 | Winny | :p |
| 21:05.02 | zee970 | i cant tell cause i cant read the freaking post |
| 21:05.12 | CIA-23 | BZFlag: 03chaos-dev * r15376 10/trunk/bzwgen/doc/grammar.txt: Updated the manual with texture operations and the snap setting |
| 21:05.13 | *** mode/#bzflag [+b %*!*@gateway/web/cgi-irc/zeebrothers.net/*] by SportChick |
| 21:05.13 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o JeffM2501] by ChanServ |
| 21:05.20 | *** mode/#bzflag [+b *!*@*.net/x-909ae24124418bac] by JeffM2501 |
| 21:05.20 | *** kick/#bzflag [zee970!n=JeffM@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/JeffM2501] by JeffM2501 (JeffM2501) |
| 21:05.35 | JeffM2501 | just do em all |
| 21:05.36 | AWOSLappy | hmm. the kick is in red... |
| 21:05.37 | Winny | yay! the name I like more some reason! |
| 21:05.39 | JeffM2501 | for a while |
| 21:05.40 | *** mode/#bzflag [+b *!*47fdd9be@*] by Erroneous |
| 21:05.51 | *** mode/#bzflag [-b %*!*@gateway/web/cgi-irc/zeebrothers.net/*] by Erroneous |
| 21:05.52 | AWOSLappy | ~JeffM2501++ |
| 21:05.52 | JeffM2501 | he's dynamic, so.... |
| 21:05.52 | *** mode/#bzflag [-b %*!*@gateway/web/cgi/irc/zeebrothers.net/*] by Erroneous |
| 21:06.12 | AWOSLappy | zeebrothers == the suck? |
| 21:06.26 | JeffM2501 | they are just another web IRC |
| 21:06.28 | donny_baker | bzchat now |
| 21:06.33 | JeffM2501 | not sure why we nee twho |
| 21:06.42 | *** mode/#bzflag [+m] by SportChick |
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| 21:07.05 | *** mode/#bzflag [-v zee688] by SportChick |
| 21:07.06 | tannerld | O.o |
| 21:07.08 | L4m3r | weeee |
| 21:07.16 | Epyon | wow :P |
| 21:07.18 | JeffM2501 | why not just go +R? |
| 21:07.23 | SportChick | could do that too |
| 21:07.26 | SportChick | if you prefer |
| 21:07.26 | JeffM2501 | simpler |
| 21:07.31 | SportChick | that was faster for me :) |
| 21:07.44 | JeffM2501 | you do have super cow powers |
| 21:07.47 | SportChick | heh |
| 21:07.53 | SportChick | no, just good scripts :) |
| 21:07.59 | AWOSLappy | Super SportChick Powers! |
| 21:08.04 | L4m3r | is diiing BY the team the same 'tard as diing FOR the team? the accounts are different |
| 21:08.08 | SportChick | AWOSLappy: are you calling me a cow? :D |
| 21:08.15 | AWOSLappy | no :) |
| 21:08.15 | Winny | L4m3r: indeed |
| 21:08.27 | AWOSLappy | * SportChick is now known as SuperChick |
| 21:08.53 | Winny | * SportChick is now known as SpamChick |
| 21:08.54 | Winny | :D |
| 21:10.44 | CBG | * SportChick is now known as SaviourChick |
| 21:15.39 | *** mode/#bzflag [-o SportChick] by ChanServ |
| 21:18.49 | AWOSLappy | scuse me, but WOOOOOOOOOT |
| 21:18.58 | JeffM | ? |
| 21:19.13 | AWOSLappy | I know the reason. let me have my moment. |
| 21:19.17 | JeffM | umm I think she just did everyone in the channel |
| 21:19.19 | CIA-23 | opencombat: 03jeffm2501 * 10GPx01/GPLib/ (inc/vectorMath.h src/vectorMath.cpp): sphere in sphere test |
| 21:19.34 | JeffM | and wow are you exciteable |
| 21:19.39 | JeffM | have you thought about decaf? |
| 21:19.50 | Birdie | so your as special as every one else in this channel, lucker:) |
| 21:19.53 | AWOSLappy | JeffM: scary thing is...I don't even drink coffee :P |
| 21:20.00 | JeffM | have you thought about taking it up? |
| 21:20.24 | AWOSLappy | yes. |
| 21:20.29 | AWOSLappy | quite often. |
| 21:24.40 | JeffM | Epyon, did you work out your point in polygon stuff? |
| 21:28.09 | Epyon | JeffM, you'd see commits about polygons if I did :P |
| 21:28.21 | JeffM | you may not have commited it yet ;) |
| 21:28.34 | JeffM | as there coudl be other work past just doing the testing |
| 21:28.41 | Epyon | Commit early commit often is my new motto :P |
| 21:29.08 | Erroneous | ~epyon++ |
| 21:30.53 | AWOSLappy | ~Epyon++ |
| 21:30.55 | Constitution | Epyon: what would be a good command-line option for creating safety zones for team flags in CTF? |
| 21:31.11 | AWOSLappy | heck, two karma points doesn't even describe the goodness of that model. bravo, Epyon :) |
| 21:32.27 | Constitution | -z, for zones? |
| 21:32.58 | JeffM | why not just -safezones |
| 21:33.11 | JeffM | or -ctfsafezones |
| 21:33.35 | JeffM | there is no law that says command line options have to be cryptic |
| 21:34.00 | Erroneous | likewise there is no law that says they must be excessively long |
| 21:34.08 | JeffM | you can split the dif :) |
| 21:34.09 | Erroneous | which is the other side of things :) |
| 21:34.14 | JeffM | -zones |
| 21:34.20 | JeffM | -ctfsafe |
| 21:34.34 | Constitution | was trying to follow convention... http://bzflag.pastebin.ca/668465 |
| 21:34.51 | AWOSLappy | yes, ctfsafe seems fair |
| 21:34.56 | JeffM | your going to runout fast ;) |
| 21:35.02 | Constitution | heh, true |
| 21:35.06 | JeffM | I don't see the point of single word things |
| 21:35.09 | Erroneous | not all options must have short equivalents |
| 21:35.14 | JeffM | if it gets that complex people will use config files |
| 21:35.21 | JeffM | and it should suport those |
| 21:35.30 | JeffM | I think |
| 21:35.50 | Erroneous | there was code in there for that, yes |
| 21:35.53 | JeffM | yeah |
| 21:35.58 | JeffM | I just don't know if it's automatic |
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| 21:38.52 | JeffM | yeah he put code in there to call it |
| 21:38.59 | JeffM | -c or config |
| 21:39.29 | JeffM | tho man, is it some reduntnat code |
| 21:39.49 | JeffM | makes 3 copies of the file :) |
| 21:40.36 | Constitution | looks like a 1-character argument is required by his printHelpCommand() function |
| 21:40.52 | JeffM | pass in an empty string ;) |
| 21:41.21 | Constitution | still leaves a dash in front of it when you call it with -help |
| 21:41.49 | Constitution | although I guess printHelpCommand() could be modified to check for that |
| 21:43.19 | CIA-23 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r15377 10/trunk/bzwgen/src/bzwgen.cxx: |
| 21:43.19 | CIA-23 | BZFlag: unnamed temporaries FTW! |
| 21:43.19 | CIA-23 | BZFlag: make the help system use the short name optionally. |
| 21:43.19 | CIA-23 | BZFlag: make the long and short command line switches be an OR situation, not an AND situation |
| 21:43.19 | CIA-23 | BZFlag: preferring the short name over the long. |
| 21:43.22 | JeffM | like that? |
| 21:47.33 | JeffM | man are those command lines jacked. |
| 21:47.44 | Constitution | cmd.Set() expects a reference |
| 21:48.02 | JeffM | it shoudl create an unamed one |
| 21:48.20 | JeffM | or does it just balk that it's not const? |
| 21:48.51 | Constitution | http://bzflag.pastebin.ca/668480 |
| 21:50.45 | JeffM | odd |
| 21:51.06 | JeffM | gcc sucks |
| 21:51.29 | Chestal | a non-const reference cannot be bound to a temporary |
| 21:51.35 | Chestal | if your compiler does it anyway, it is broken :-) |
| 21:51.51 | JeffM | yeah I seem to recall that |
| 21:53.14 | AAA_awright | gcc works better then, say, <insert name of a microsoft compiler>. That's right, lowercase m. |
| 21:53.29 | JeffM | not for all things ;) |
| 21:53.40 | JeffM | it's actualy further along in a few standards. |
| 21:53.54 | CIA-23 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r15378 10/trunk/bzwgen/ (inc/commandArgs.h src/commandArgs.cxx): constatstic. |
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| 21:55.29 | JeffM | what I'm trying to figure out is how he can be doing an asignment from a char* to an OSDir |
| 21:55.39 | JeffM | the only = operator is one from a const OSDir |
| 21:56.03 | Chestal | is there OSDir(char *) constructor or something? |
| 21:56.08 | JeffM | yeah |
| 21:56.13 | JeffM | is it autocasting that? |
| 21:56.13 | Chestal | make that explicit |
| 21:56.18 | Chestal | otherwise it will be used for convrsions |
| 21:56.28 | JeffM | how does one make it explicit? |
| 21:56.40 | Chestal | just put 'explicit' before it |
| 21:56.44 | JeffM | heh |
| 21:56.52 | JeffM | tho techincaly I guess its' not a bad thing |
| 21:56.55 | Chestal | in the class def |
| 21:56.56 | JeffM | just makes a temp copy |
| 21:57.18 | Chestal | usually, all ctors which take one parameter should be made explicit, unless you really want conversions |
| 21:57.40 | Chestal | C++ should have made it the other way around, but I guess it woudl have broken too much old code |
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| 22:00.51 | Constitution | spelling corrections: http://bzflag.pastebin.ca/668499 |
| 22:01.33 | Constitution | (changed all the "defualt"s to "defaults"s) |
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| 22:04.19 | CIA-23 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r15379 10/trunk/bzwgen/ (inc/OSFile.h src/bzwgen.cxx): |
| 22:04.19 | CIA-23 | BZFlag: spelling ( thanks constitution ) |
| 22:04.19 | CIA-23 | BZFlag: replace duplicate logic for command line options with some simple functions. |
| 22:04.19 | CIA-23 | BZFlag: make sure that OSDirs are not created with an OS path that it thinks is a standard path. |
| 22:04.57 | *** mode/#bzflag [-m] by JeffM |
| 22:05.01 | *** mode/#bzflag [+R] by JeffM |
| 22:05.13 | L4m3r | registered users only? |
| 22:05.17 | JeffM | for voice |
| 22:05.17 | spldart | thank yah |
| 22:05.20 | L4m3r | yeah |
| 22:05.22 | JeffM | yeah |
| 22:05.25 | JeffM | for now |
| 22:05.35 | brlcad | JeffM: cool, thx |
| 22:05.47 | L4m3r | oooh, can you do a realname ban on "bzfsIRC" in this channel? |
| 22:06.17 | JeffM | ? |
| 22:06.19 | L4m3r | I'm going to use that for a 2.0 plug-in based on gsoc code |
| 22:06.32 | L4m3r | and we don't need instances of bzfs spamming up this channel ;) |
| 22:06.38 | JeffM | when it happens we can do it |
| 22:06.56 | CIA-23 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r15380 10/trunk/bzwgen/src/bzwgen.cxx: ws |
| 22:07.35 | JeffM | Constitution, you can now use the utility functions to check command line options getOptionI and getOptionS |
| 22:07.46 | JeffM | and pass it a short and long name and it'll give you the thing |
| 22:08.32 | JeffM | also made -h only checked if it was command line, no point in doing -h from a config :) |
| 22:09.28 | CIA-23 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r15381 10/trunk/bzwgen/src/bzwgen.cxx: more ws |
| 22:19.43 | Constitution | -ctfsafe would be a bool option, I guess... looks like the first one |
| 22:21.55 | JeffM | yeah if it has no params, it sets the data to 1 |
| 22:24.31 | Epyon | ~JeffM++ |
| 22:24.36 | Epyon | Hmm it would be nice if the default values would be in one place |
| 22:24.59 | JeffM | huh? |
| 22:27.49 | Constitution | so the help entry should look like this? http://bzflag.pastebin.ca/668541 |
| 22:27.50 | CIA-23 | BZFlag: 03chaos-dev * r15382 10/trunk/bzwgen/inc/RuleSet.h: Overloaded addAttr(const char*) |
| 22:29.15 | CIA-23 | BZFlag: 03chaos-dev * r15383 10/trunk/bzwgen/src/bzwgen.cxx: Overloaded addAttr(const char*) |
| 22:31.36 | JeffM | yeah, or pass in NULL |
| 22:31.40 | JeffM | ether will work |
| 22:32.32 | JeffM | maybe it's better to put the long name first |
| 22:32.35 | JeffM | and the short name in () |
| 22:32.43 | JeffM | mayhaps that will look better |
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| 22:53.48 | CIA-23 | BZFlag: 03chaos-dev * r15384 10/trunk/bzwgen/ (5 files in 4 dirs): Operations and Expressions now take const char* as the string -- saves conversion and makes the parser file more readable. |
| 22:59.49 | Constitution | Epyon_: what's the "grid snap"? |
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| 23:03.47 | Epyon | I can't talk because I don't have +v ?? |
| 23:04.08 | Epyon | Ping anyone? |
| 23:04.12 | Constitution | hi |
| 23:04.29 | Epyon | Ah, did you get my prev msg? |
| 23:04.33 | Constitution | yep |
| 23:04.38 | Epyon | Someone messed up the channel -_- |
| 23:08.17 | AWOSLappy | Epyon: um, it was SportChick, and she's an op. she didn't mess it up, she fixed it :P |
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| 23:26.02 | Epyon | Quiz - how many faces has a bzwgen generated map with standard options? |
| 23:26.18 | Winny | too mant |
| 23:26.20 | Winny | :p |
| 23:26.46 | Epyon | Try a guess (faces = quads) |
| 23:27.28 | Winny | 10,000 |
| 23:27.39 | Epyon | Anyone else wanna guess? :D |
| 23:27.43 | Winny | :( |
| 23:28.10 | CBG | 100,000 |
| 23:28.13 | Epyon | Winny, I didn't say you were wrong, I want to see if anyone else want's to take a guess :P |
| 23:29.11 | CIA-23 | BZFlag: 03chaos-dev * r15385 10/trunk/bzwgen/ (inc/Output.h src/bzwgen.cxx): Added a counter for outputed faces, texcoords and vertices |
| 23:29.20 | Epyon | 50,000 :) |
| 23:29.22 | Winny | aiee |
| 23:29.38 | Winny | no wonder the map is like 500kb cached, hehe, never thought about that till now |
| 23:29.39 | Epyon | 60,000 vertices |
| 23:29.48 | CBG | 31415 |
| 23:29.57 | Epyon | CBG? |
| 23:30.10 | Winny | lol |
| 23:30.32 | CBG | I'm taking guesses. |
| 23:30.45 | Epyon | And thanks to texcoords reusage only around 2000 texcoords :) |
| 23:30.47 | CBG | is pi*10^4 not close enough? |
| 23:30.53 | Epyon | (down from around 30000) |
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| 23:34.17 | Epyon | bryjen, quick quiz -- how many quads is a bzwgen map made of :P |
| 23:34.26 | AWOSLappy | spldart: ping |
| 23:34.34 | tannerld | -1 |
| 23:35.43 | AWOSLappy | Epyon: if I know what you mean by face, and I think I do... |
| 23:36.19 | AWOSLappy | realistically? 30K-40K. but my poor graphics card would say 1 mil + |
| 23:36.20 | AWOSLappy | :P |
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| 23:51.46 | Epyon | sin and cos in C++ take radians or degrees? |
| 23:52.17 | Epyon | radians |
| 23:53.19 | delusional | jeffM no i never did get my question answered about the border material |
| 23:54.01 | JeffM | delusional, it looks like something was atempted, but I can't see how it's used |
| 23:54.18 | JeffM | there is a "telerim" default material that is defined. |
| 23:54.37 | JeffM | in the same place the standard box and pyramid materials are done |
| 23:54.50 | JeffM | but I can't see that the teleporter drawing code uses it |
| 23:54.53 | JeffM | you may want to try it |
| 23:55.13 | JeffM | I can probably hook it up if it dosn't work |
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| 23:56.23 | delusional | telerim. I cant test for a couple days, my mom and dad's 50'th anniversary is tomoorow, very busy till sat |
| 23:56.30 | JeffM | fun |
| 23:56.42 | JeffM | well let me know how it works out whenever you do it |
| 23:57.10 | delusional | telerim with no capital letters? |
| 23:57.24 | JeffM | it was all lowercase in the code |
| 23:57.38 | delusional | thx |
| 23:59.22 | Epyon | hmm, PI is not defined in math.h? o.O |
