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| 00:15.39 | JeffM | brlcad, what time do you want to go to dinners? |
| 00:16.39 | brlcad | whenevers |
| 00:17.16 | JeffM | I'm gonna take a shower then lets say we go see where the cow works :) |
| 00:20.36 | Winny | pics or it didn't happen :p |
| 00:34.04 | donny_baker | Winny: of Jeff in the shower? no thanks... |
| 00:34.20 | Winny | rofl |
| 00:34.21 | Winny | no |
| 00:34.24 | Winny | of the devs |
| 00:34.44 | Winny | donny_baker: sicko. |
| 00:36.45 | JeffM | no devs in showers |
| 00:37.00 | JeffM | I'm done anyway, you missed yours hot |
| 00:37.13 | donny_baker | hehe |
| 00:37.35 | Winny | ... |
| 00:39.20 | JeffM | brlcad, ready? |
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| 04:59.17 | JeffM | man we need to have anther summer of code, we just drank all the prize money |
| 04:59.32 | brlcad | *burp* |
| 05:00.40 | purple_cow | thank you for the beers, summer of code prize money |
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| 14:31.38 | Winny | someone ping me when const shows up again, please. |
| 14:34.45 | ruskie | hmm didn't even see him joni since last he quit... |
| 14:34.53 | JeffM | Winny, any luck geting it to crash in the logger? |
| 14:35.14 | Winny | I havent had much time to even try, but it hasn't crahsed yet. |
| 14:35.30 | JeffM | k |
| 14:35.50 | JeffM | and anyone know what was wrong with the title image? and when did it go wrong? |
| 14:36.01 | Winny | my UDP loss seems to be slowly dropping... only peaked at ~5% yesterday, where it was about 10-20% 2 weeks ago. |
| 14:36.07 | JeffM | was the one in the RC3 bin bad or good? |
| 14:36.56 | Winny | JeffM: did my image bacisaclly get thrown out? :p |
| 14:37.39 | JeffM | well as stated, we'd have prefered to have one that was the same, and use yours for 2.2 |
| 14:37.44 | JeffM | did you see the mods that I made |
| 14:37.45 | JeffM | ? |
| 14:37.57 | JeffM | I like your image |
| 14:38.14 | JeffM | but there is something to be said for consistency in a minor bug update |
| 14:38.31 | Winny | oh, I never heard the 2.2 part |
| 14:38.41 | JeffM | if saturos fails to get us a full 2.0.10 image for the final release, I'll fallback to yours |
| 14:39.41 | JeffM | so nothing was "thrown out" |
| 14:39.53 | JeffM | there are just prefrences for each vesion |
| 14:39.58 | brlcad | fyi, the shuttles are pretty big and already sitting out front |
| 14:40.31 | JeffM | that would involve me being ready :) |
| 14:42.04 | brlcad | heh, I ain't ready either, just noticed the big black buses |
| 14:48.44 | JeffM | Winny, did you see the small mods I made to your image? |
| 14:49.09 | brlcad | so you were saying then about the logo.. |
| 14:49.18 | Winny | JeffM: I think so |
| 14:49.26 | brlcad | to basically take out the flag and put a read 3d one in? |
| 14:49.32 | JeffM | yeah |
| 14:49.46 | JeffM | then we can generate the version via code |
| 14:49.58 | brlcad | someone has the original? |
| 14:50.12 | JeffM | I was going to use an in game flag ;) |
| 14:50.12 | brlcad | for 2.0.10, or head? |
| 14:50.23 | JeffM | saturos has all our art |
| 14:51.42 | JeffM | Winny, http://www.opencombat.net/files/images/bzlogo/BZHeader-JM.png |
| 14:52.37 | Winny | ah |
| 14:52.54 | JeffM | re:the image problem, I am wondering when it went bad? when I took out the RC3? or before? |
| 14:53.11 | JeffM | cus I want to make sure that PS elements at work makes good images |
| 14:53.19 | JeffM | if not I'll be sure to use real PS on my lappy |
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| 14:54.00 | JeffM | brlcad, what was the summit IRC channel? |
| 14:58.03 | brlcad | gsoc-mentor-summit |
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| 14:59.26 | brlcad | argh |
| 14:59.51 | brlcad | forgot they confiscated mine |
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| 15:00.03 | ruskie | lol |
| 15:00.07 | ruskie | they confiscated toothpaste? |
| 15:00.21 | brlcad | yeah, it was a tube of liquid dynamite |
| 15:00.50 | ruskie | I love the general stupiditiy... |
| 15:01.12 | brlcad | actually, I think the lady cut me a big break .. only took the toothpaste, but left my hair gel, cologne, and other prohibited items |
| 15:03.47 | Winny | STAND BACK, I HAVE HAIR GEL! |
| 15:04.02 | tannerld | and he's not afraid to use it |
| 15:04.09 | ruskie | lol |
| 15:04.10 | tannerld | mohawks are dangerous |
| 15:04.28 | ruskie | it's nice to see the terrorists suceede so easily... |
| 15:04.45 | Winny | terrists* :p |
| 15:05.28 | JeffM | I have some if you want to use some |
| 15:08.28 | brlcad | ahh, much better |
| 15:08.48 | brlcad | danka |
| 15:09.11 | Winny | now you can be cool enough to leave the house? :p |
| 15:12.41 | tannerld | is the open function in BZWB broken? |
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| 16:05.22 | zee652 | i need help |
| 16:05.53 | zee652 | can any on put severs online |
| 16:06.20 | Winny | http://my.bzflag.org/bb/ and then theres the wiki http://my.bzflag.org/w/ |
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| 16:41.52 | JeffM | what's a good map to show off this sucker? |
| 16:46.40 | Winny | JeffM: uh, something by louman? :P |
| 16:47.11 | ts | Heh, non playable |
| 16:47.13 | Winny | Alpine assault is pretty good. |
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| 16:57.26 | Pumpernickel | The compound is a decent map. |
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| 17:04.14 | Winny | TWO JeffM's :O |
| 17:08.06 | JeffMFishBone | gonna happen all day |
| 17:08.10 | JeffMFishBone | wireless is fun |
| 17:08.47 | Winny | hehe |
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| 17:17.50 | catay | forrestv: you there? |
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| 18:11.21 | bremac | hey, any planet mofo admins here? |
| 18:11.57 | bremac | none? Oh god... |
| 18:14.17 | JeffM | everyone cheer for DTRemenak's public speaking... |
| 18:15.25 | ruskie | hmmm interesting cheat... |
| 18:15.36 | tannerld | ? |
| 18:16.30 | brlcad | heh |
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| 18:17.25 | ruskie | killed self and genoed the team |
| 18:18.24 | ruskie | a ton of times before managed to ban him |
| 18:18.45 | ruskie | ip: 66.176.159.237 callsign: rain god |
| 18:19.00 | JeffM | jorgenpt, I dunno if oyu shoudl, we are talking about you guy's |
| 18:19.35 | Winny | JeffM: what are you guys doing? |
| 18:19.47 | JeffM | Mentor summit |
| 18:20.04 | jorgenpt | JeffM: Eep! What're you saying? |
| 18:20.15 | JeffM | brlcad, DTRemenak ,and myself are all sitting at googl ow |
| 18:20.17 | JeffM | now |
| 18:20.26 | Winny | ah |
| 18:20.40 | JeffM | and we just finnised a session on making students hapy |
| 18:20.53 | jorgenpt | How many beers have Google bought you? |
| 18:21.04 | JeffM | 0 |
| 18:21.08 | ruskie | hmm actually only was killing himself... |
| 18:24.35 | brlcad | we're pretty busy talking about daxxar Epyon_ jude- L4m3r and other GSoC matters ;) |
| 18:25.07 | Winny | "how did the IRC to BZFlag project go?" |
| 18:25.13 | Winny | "any other quaestions?" :p |
| 18:25.56 | JeffM | there is one that we may talk about that |
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| 18:48.37 | JeffM | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:48.52 | bryjen | ~bzfquery bzexcess.com:25155 |
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| 18:54.13 | JeffM | yay for bzflag developer solidarity |
| 18:54.52 | JeffM | at one point all 3 of us were standing up and arguing with the distributed source people |
| 18:55.07 | Winny | hehe |
| 18:55.46 | bryjen | "distributed source people" ? |
| 18:56.21 | JeffM | the distributed version controll system |
| 18:56.28 | Winny | SVN? |
| 18:56.42 | JeffM | no |
| 18:56.50 | JeffM | like bit torrent + svn |
| 18:57.48 | JeffM | they are rather evnagelical |
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| 19:23.20 | CehPlusPlus | hi |
| 19:24.55 | ruskie | JeffM, lol... bored I guess :) I rather like dscms... since most can be used also an regular ones :) |
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| 20:35.01 | ruskie | hmm would be nice if each client provided a unique unchangable id(other than by recompiling it) |
| 20:35.42 | Winny | Its opensource, it could be faked, no? |
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| 20:36.11 | ruskie | yeah but how many regular players would do it... |
| 20:36.42 | ruskie | i.e. those that are annoying but haven't a clue about good gameplay or some such and try to rejoin using dynamic ips or changing email string and callsign etc... |
| 20:36.58 | ruskie | I mean all it would need is a recompile... |
| 20:37.44 | ruskie | though I guess it would be hard to package it then and not have ppl get blocked that way |
| 20:38.42 | Winny | what about pre-compiled packages? :O |
| 20:38.49 | Winny | oh, you already said that |
| 20:41.31 | ruskie | :) |
| 20:42.53 | ruskie | would be nice though... to bad it's not an ideal world were it wouldn't even be necessary |
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| 21:16.33 | ruskie | hmm Winny how about this... a /playban command that would ban the player for speaking, spawing, joining as anything other but observer if his ip is in the list and he's not registered... |
| 21:17.28 | a_temp_dist | if the player is not able to join, why ban from spawning and speaking? |
| 21:17.38 | ruskie | it wouldn't ban his ip |
| 21:17.58 | ruskie | if I ban $I_have_dyn_ip_idiot his ip will just switch... |
| 21:18.07 | ruskie | and he'll be back and annoy |
| 21:18.19 | a_temp_dist | that's what hostid bans are for |
| 21:18.35 | ruskie | where there is no host to ban? |
| 21:18.55 | ruskie | or what does hostid take... |
| 21:18.57 | Constitution | then range ban |
| 21:19.02 | ruskie | yeah... |
| 21:19.09 | a_temp_dist | ok, how are you identifying the person you are banning then? |
| 21:19.18 | ruskie | by ip alon |
| 21:19.19 | ruskie | e |
| 21:19.27 | a_temp_dist | 4:17 PM ruskie: it wouldn't ban his ip |
| 21:19.57 | ruskie | not in the sense of the word ban |
| 21:20.26 | ruskie | basicaly you could playban *.*.*.* and it would be equal as requiring everyone to be registered players |
| 21:20.32 | a_temp_dist | so you would (block) a person by ip alone, but not ban his ip? |
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| 21:21.39 | a_temp_dist | the person that I've been dealing with most recently has at least 5 registered nicknames |
| 21:21.45 | ruskie | great... |
| 21:21.50 | ruskie | so idban all of those |
| 21:21.58 | ruskie | did that for a few ppl |
| 21:22.05 | a_temp_dist | yep |
| 21:22.31 | ruskie | ut what if the person just changes callsign and his ip marginaly changes but you can still see it's him from his attitude etc... |
| 21:23.10 | a_temp_dist | then I do a range ban |
| 21:23.31 | ruskie | even if that entitles banning half of a country? |
| 21:24.10 | a_temp_dist | mofo has a whitelist group for that rare occasion, not ideal tho |
| 21:24.11 | ruskie | or am I confusing something 255.255.255.* <-- meaning that? |
| 21:24.41 | a_temp_dist | yep, that's a range ban |
| 21:24.52 | ruskie | yeah I used that in the end for this one... |
| 21:25.10 | ruskie | after grepping my logs and more or less verifying it's always him from that range |
| 21:25.39 | ruskie | but for example there's a ton of polish players and they switch ip's faster.... |
| 21:25.48 | a_temp_dist | _that_ I think is part of the solution - more accessible log files |
| 21:26.11 | ruskie | one of them was wiser than most and started spewing insults while golbaly registered |
| 21:26.14 | ruskie | so idban... |
| 21:26.23 | ruskie | he just rejoined with diff callsign and diff ip... |
| 21:26.27 | a_temp_dist | where the owner can see faster and more clearly that an IP is the same or close to a previously identified problem player |
| 21:26.30 | ruskie | I can't just range ban half of pland |
| 21:26.41 | ruskie | erm poland |
| 21:27.02 | ruskie | there are registered players and they deserve to be able to still join... |
| 21:27.02 | a_temp_dist | heh, just take them over, ruskie :) |
| 21:27.07 | ruskie | lol |
| 21:27.09 | ruskie | amusing |
| 21:27.43 | a_temp_dist | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:28.01 | ruskie | hence why I was thinking of a solution for this problem... |
| 21:28.17 | ruskie | basicaly it's a selective registration... |
| 21:28.36 | ruskie | it could work imho... |
| 21:28.56 | ruskie | would give the admins more power over troublesome regions |
| 21:28.59 | a_temp_dist | some server owners have moved SPAWN perm from EVERYONE to VERIFIED |
| 21:29.06 | ruskie | yeah... |
| 21:29.13 | ruskie | but that requires regiseterd players |
| 21:29.20 | ruskie | and is not something a lot of folk want... |
| 21:29.28 | ruskie | this would be somewhere inbetween |
| 21:29.31 | a_temp_dist | that's a tough sell tho - makes more work training the new players |
| 21:29.51 | a_temp_dist | they will never actually read the help registration file |
| 21:29.55 | ruskie | it would allow non-registered players to play... |
| 21:30.08 | ruskie | from anywhere |
| 21:30.15 | ruskie | except where there are issues with players |
| 21:30.25 | a_temp_dist | well, then you need some way of identifying them - if it's IP then you'll have to ban by IP |
| 21:30.38 | a_temp_dist | and/or hostid |
| 21:31.44 | ruskie | hmmm |
| 21:31.54 | ruskie | ok so I just banned a rang 84.77.*.* |
| 21:32.11 | ruskie | due to one troublesome player |
| 21:32.26 | ruskie | but what if in that range there are other registered players that would like to play fairly |
| 21:32.37 | ts | ruskie: I don't know whether it was discussed before but we could make the clients have a GUID |
| 21:32.45 | Constitution | make a group with +ANTIBAN |
| 21:32.50 | Constitution | and set them to that |
| 21:33.06 | ruskie | playban would allow everyone to still join but unless they verify they can't do anything |
| 21:33.19 | ruskie | ts, and how easily changed it would be? |
| 21:33.52 | a_temp_dist | I don't see how "playban" is different than what exists now |
| 21:33.55 | ts | ruskie: They would need to change GUID in config file, then they would have a new GUID. |
| 21:34.04 | ruskie | to easy that's the probelm |
| 21:34.13 | ts | Well, some may do not know |
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| 21:34.59 | ruskie | a_temp_dist, what exists now the way I understand it is that it needs whitelisting and intervention from admins to have it working... |
| 21:35.05 | ts | ruskie: GUID is better than nothing for unregistered players ;) |
| 21:35.17 | ruskie | with playban it would be automatic |
| 21:35.42 | a_temp_dist | automatic banning is problematic |
| 21:36.30 | ruskie | ts, I guess it would be better than nothing true... |
| 21:36.56 | ts | ruskie: I think the average abuser doesn't even know where the config file is |
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| 21:37.17 | ruskie | true... |
| 21:37.32 | ruskie | that would certainly work then... |
| 21:38.09 | Winny | 3 times the JeffM, thress times the fun... :p |
| 21:38.12 | ts | Not always, some know more and we need to make sure a GUID is unique (no other players with same GUID) |
| 21:38.38 | Winny | rofl |
| 21:38.40 | eTangenT | har har |
| 21:38.45 | ts | ruskie: However I have no clue what the other devs think, they discuss while I sleep ;) |
| 21:38.50 | ruskie | :) |
| 21:38.57 | ruskie | and on that note I'm off as well... |
| 21:39.08 | ruskie | it's amusing how a 1h ban escalated to 24h... |
| 21:39.13 | ts | ruskie: Good night |
| 21:39.32 | Winny | hmm.. |
| 21:39.37 | Winny | /nick Constitution |
| 21:39.38 | Winny | ;) |
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| 21:41.49 | JeffMGSoCSummit | be nice to us, we just had to represent you all to the game dev portion |
| 21:42.11 | Winny | like, you had to tell them who we are were? o.O |
| 21:42.33 | JeffMGSoCSummit | the needs and desires of real players |
| 21:42.42 | JeffMGSoCSummit | and what content creators want/need |
| 21:42.50 | JeffMGSoCSummit | we talked to the blender guy, and the ogre and CS guys |
| 21:43.04 | JeffMGSoCSummit | we are the only "real" game here |
| 21:43.09 | JeffMGSoCSummit | with like assloads of players |
| 21:46.21 | JeffMGSoCSummit | tho I don't know how good of notes brlcad took |
| 21:55.59 | JeffMGSoCSummit | one thing I have learned, we need a way cooler logo, and kick ass t-shirts |
| 21:56.13 | JeffMGSoCSummit | like of a not white color |
| 21:58.01 | AAA_awright | JeffMGSoCSummit: Any videos? |
| 21:58.11 | JeffMGSoCSummit | no cameras inside the googleplex |
| 21:58.17 | JeffMGSoCSummit | for fear of deathitude |
| 21:58.18 | AAA_awright | :( |
| 21:58.28 | JeffMGSoCSummit | we were told so |
| 21:58.34 | AAA_awright | Understandable |
| 21:58.35 | JeffMGSoCSummit | there is a spaceship one here tho |
| 21:59.05 | AAA_awright | Nice |
| 22:00.00 | purple_cow | I think it's *the* spaceship one |
| 22:00.29 | JeffMGSoCSummit | it looks fake |
| 22:01.09 | JeffMGSoCSummit | but then maybe it is real |
| 22:01.17 | JeffMGSoCSummit | cus it's all composites |
| 22:04.24 | AAA_awright | Google is good about posting it's videos to Youtube, |
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| 22:06.00 | AAA_awright | The Google Tech Talks and other talks people give. Are there any real talks being given? |
| 22:07.27 | JeffMFishBone | ?? |
| 22:07.41 | JeffMFishBone | define "real" talks |
| 22:10.12 | AAA_awright | Uh, the keynote presentation, if it exists? I am in the dark about what is going on over there. |
| 22:10.27 | JeffMFishBone | it's all informal |
| 22:10.34 | JeffMFishBone | unconfrence stile |
| 22:10.54 | JeffMFishBone | right now we are siting in on a session on mentor guidelines |
| 22:11.05 | JeffMFishBone | aka what do you do when they arn't working out |
| 22:11.42 | JeffMFishBone | before that was one with mostly game tools/libs and what people need |
| 22:12.10 | Constitution | yeah, so you know what to do with slackers like jude-, when he slowed down to only 10,000 LOC a week? |
| 22:12.17 | JeffMFishBone | before that was "the social implication of source controll" aka "why does the guy from GET like to talk about" |
| 22:13.08 | ts | Hmm, Saturos made cool T-Shirts for our team. They look truly great. |
| 22:13.27 | JeffMFishBone | yeah he has made good stuff |
| 22:13.29 | whodaman- | ts, with the name at the bacl? |
| 22:13.36 | ts | whodaman-: yep |
| 22:13.53 | whodaman- | ts, don't you speak german too? |
| 22:14.14 | ts | whodaman-: German is one of the languages I speak |
| 22:14.21 | whodaman- | muttersprache? |
| 22:14.33 | ts | jupp |
| 22:14.50 | whodaman- | wir deutschen produzieren nur gutes |
| 22:14.52 | whodaman- | :P |
| 22:15.06 | ts | I was at the shop with benji and Saturos, looking at how they're produced..quite interesting |
| 22:15.09 | brlcad | not really great notes |
| 22:15.18 | brlcad | but I'll have to clean them up :) |
| 22:15.34 | JeffMFishBone | add "and bzflag is awesome" every other line |
| 22:16.53 | Pimpi_ | whodaman-: saturos is austrian though ;) |
| 22:17.05 | whodaman- | he lives in berlin |
| 22:17.08 | whodaman- | doesn't he |
| 22:17.21 | Pimpi_ | austrian anyway iirc |
| 22:17.40 | whodaman- | i was hosting one of his maps |
| 22:17.56 | ts | Hmm, I don't believe he is austrian |
| 22:18.04 | whodaman- | he's german iirc |
| 22:18.06 | whodaman- | i think |
| 22:18.09 | Pimpi_ | really? |
| 22:18.13 | Pimpi_ | hm |
| 22:18.17 | whodaman- | ts, schon oder? |
| 22:18.47 | ts | Well, he sounds like being from Berlin |
| 22:18.55 | whodaman- | that's what he sai |
| 22:18.56 | whodaman- | d |
| 22:19.06 | ts | Nah, I meant how he speaks |
| 22:19.17 | Manu | I believe he is from Saturn :p |
| 22:19.24 | whodaman- | i couldn't really tell |
| 22:19.25 | JeffMFishBone | I belive he's german |
| 22:19.25 | whodaman- | :P |
| 22:19.28 | Pimpi_ | maybe i'm mistaken |
| 22:19.37 | ts | I was at his home |
| 22:19.57 | whodaman- | really? |
| 22:20.14 | Manu | they are teammates ;) |
| 22:20.27 | ts | Being together with benji 13, Upsetter, SAMY-{100%}, TRAC, Bachiiii |
| 22:20.35 | Pimpi_ | but, hey, must be a year or two since i killed him last, so who knows ;) |
| 22:20.51 | Manu | hallo Pimpi_ :) |
| 22:21.11 | whodaman- | Manu, you german too?? |
| 22:21.18 | JeffMGSocSummit | but yeah, we need wiked cool shirts |
| 22:21.19 | Manu | mein :p |
| 22:21.25 | Manu | whodaman-: nein |
| 22:21.27 | Pimpi_ | whodaman-: no insults here... |
| 22:21.38 | JeffMGSocSummit | I have a couple ideas, maybe I can sketch them up and people can work them out |
| 22:21.41 | whodaman- | Pimpi_, du auch? |
| 22:21.49 | ts | Pimpi_: Huh? |
| 22:21.53 | Pimpi_ | ich schon, ja |
| 22:21.59 | whodaman- | wow |
| 22:22.06 | whodaman- | sin ja voll viele |
| 22:22.12 | whodaman- | dachte ich garnich |
| 22:22.26 | Pimpi_ | Manu: is a hot booded spanish |
| 22:22.44 | Manu | das ist gut Pimpi_ :p |
| 22:23.03 | Pimpi_ | not a fischkoepfiger kraut |
| 22:23.13 | whodaman- | ach komm |
| 22:23.16 | whodaman- | ich genie? es |
| 22:23.16 | Pimpi_ | like me |
| 22:24.57 | Pimpi_ | schoene gruesse an saturos wenn ihn jemand sieht, is schon lange her |
| 22:25.05 | whodaman- | ja stimmt |
| 22:25.21 | whodaman- | ich hab ihm ne PM geschickt, dass ich octocage hoste |
| 22:25.33 | whodaman- | was aber nich hingehauen hat |
| 22:25.45 | Pimpi_ | warum nich? |
| 22:26.07 | whodaman- | Ich konnte nur von nem home server hosten |
| 22:26.36 | Pimpi_ | Manu: wasn't there a fix for end shot cheat long abo? |
| 22:26.40 | whodaman- | jetzt koennte ich es auf nem gro?en server hosten, aber da sind irgendwie einige mesh fehler |
| 22:27.40 | Pimpi_ | whodaman-: und was hast du jetzt drauf statt octcage? |
| 22:27.58 | whodaman- | naja, ich hab en par kandidaten |
| 22:28.06 | whodaman- | und entscheid mich erst noch... |
| 22:28.42 | whodaman- | Pimpi_, wo wohnst du? |
| 22:28.58 | Manu | Pimpi_: there is |
| 22:29.23 | Manu | Pimpi_: why do you ask? |
| 22:29.39 | ts | Manu: Did you see report? |
| 22:29.55 | ts | Manu: Check viper admin list |
| 22:29.56 | Pimpi_ | did yo read the most recent report and ts comment? |
| 22:30.08 | Manu | what report? no new messages |
| 22:30.14 | Pimpi_ | whodaman-: nördlich von Wilhelmshaven |
| 22:30.16 | Manu | I read it every day |
| 22:30.24 | Pimpi_ | Reported by ex ungue leonem: strange things happening. all players shots only go about 1/5 of normal lenght. |
| 22:30.28 | whodaman- | cool |
| 22:30.41 | ts | Ending too soon is end shot |
| 22:30.51 | ts | so one cheater |
| 22:30.55 | Manu | not exactly |
| 22:31.06 | Pimpi_ | or somebod frickling with server settings |
| 22:31.23 | whodaman- | you all @ at vipder |
| 22:31.43 | ts | Manu: What then? |
| 22:31.54 | Manu | server/net issue |
| 22:32.05 | Manu | or look for a player with SH :/ |
| 22:32.15 | ts | Ending too soonn does not sound like net issue |
| 22:32.18 | Manu | I explained it in the mailing list time ago ;) |
| 22:32.37 | Pimpi_ | _all_ shots endign early? |
| 22:32.49 | Manu | no, only some players |
| 22:33.02 | Manu | well, there is a hole in the endshot code |
| 22:33.13 | Manu | and can't be fixed without a protocol change |
| 22:33.14 | ts | Manu: Yes...but net issue is unlikely. It would mean something being sent to players actively all the time, IIRC |
| 22:33.32 | Manu | ts, look for a player with SH I said |
| 22:33.46 | Pimpi_ | ah, ic |
| 22:33.59 | Manu | :) |
| 22:34.13 | ts | Manu: SH player does send end shot, IIRC |
| 22:34.33 | Pimpi_ | yes, he does... |
| 22:34.34 | Manu | ts, I don't want to make it public here (how it works) |
| 22:34.42 | Manu | ts, just read the mailing list |
| 22:34.49 | Manu | I said it time ago |
| 22:34.59 | Manu | when it happened the first time |
| 22:35.55 | Pimpi_ | ok, anyone of you knows Gary Primich? |
| 22:38.39 | Pimpi_ | one of the very best harp players ever, passed away on 9/23 |
| 22:38.49 | Pimpi_ | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8Q11ebTz_A |
| 22:38.55 | whodaman- | lol |
| 22:39.00 | whodaman- | that was off-topic :P |
| 22:39.12 | Pimpi_ | damn off topic here, but a pity... |
| 22:39.39 | Pimpi_ | i whish he would have had some 30 yeaars more |
| 22:39.58 | whodaman- | the good die young |
| 22:40.19 | Pimpi_ | only 49 |
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| 22:42.52 | Pimpi_ | denverd would understand me |
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| 23:34.58 | jude- | hello all |
| 23:35.04 | blast007 | hi jude- |
| 23:35.32 | tannerld | long time no see |
| 23:35.47 | jude- | heh--I got root-ed recently :/ |
| 23:35.47 | Winny | holy crap its jude-! |
| 23:36.01 | jude- | lol |
| 23:36.12 | Winny | what does that mean? o.O |
| 23:36.13 | brlcad | howdy jude- ! |
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| 23:36.17 | brlcad | we're talking about you |
| 23:36.26 | jude- | hehe |
| 23:36.38 | jude- | Winny: someone managed to install a root-kit |
| 23:36.41 | JeffMGSocSummit | it's all horible things |
| 23:36.48 | Winny | jude-: :/ |
| 23:37.00 | jude- | ...after two years of non-stop usage |
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| 23:38.08 | jude- | JeffMGSocSummit: what horrible things? :) |
| 23:38.17 | daxxar | ;-) |
| 23:38.26 | jude- | Winny: not even Linux is invincible |
| 23:38.27 | daxxar | Winny: Rootkits are quite existant for Linux ;) |
| 23:38.36 | Winny | oh, right |
| 23:38.54 | jude- | ...of course, it would have been wiser of me to figure out why ipchains was malfunctioning in my last kernel *before* trying to connect to the internet... |
| 23:40.26 | JeffMGSocSummit | all the horibite things for oyu |
| 23:40.28 | JeffMGSocSummit | ;) |
| 23:41.02 | jude- | hehe |
| 23:42.47 | jude- | JeffMGSocSummit: the good news is that the semester is half-way over for me come Monday |
| 23:42.58 | jude- | ...winter intercession is that much closer :) |
| 23:43.08 | JeffMGSocSummit | dude honestly, your doing awesome jsut being here still |
| 23:43.18 | JeffMGSocSummit | it seems that many projects didn't have people stay |
| 23:43.27 | jude- | their loss |
| 23:43.48 | jude- | (their being the antecedent for the students, of course :) |
| 23:43.52 | JeffMGSocSummit | techincaly all of our students still hang out |
| 23:43.58 | JeffMGSocSummit | so we are good |
| 23:44.02 | jude- | indeed :) |
| 23:44.12 | jude- | ~hug bzflag_devs |
| 23:44.13 | ibot | ACTION jumps into bzflag_devs's lap and huggles and *hugs* bzflag_devs |
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