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| 02:53.38 | donny_baker | brlcad, JeffM, DTRemenak: ping |
| 02:53.49 | JeffM | ? |
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| 04:56.31 | brlcad | donny_baker: pong? |
| 04:58.38 | JeffM | brlcad: I took care of it |
| 04:58.39 | JeffM | you can read about it in the admin froum if you want to |
| 04:59.15 | brlcad | k |
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| 04:59.40 | brlcad | I just lost four hours, dunno where they went |
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| 05:03.50 | JeffM | you can bend the time/space continueum? |
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| 05:06.28 | brlcad | apparently when I get hooked on a new game |
| 05:07.53 | JeffM | what one? |
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| 05:32.52 | brlcad | Lux |
| 05:33.55 | brlcad | just a basic risk clone though it also has optional new/creative maps in addition to standard risk maps .. some of them consistently quite a challenge |
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| 05:54.51 | brlcad | plus networked gameplay, freakishly hard opponents, timed games, etc |
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| 13:42.05 | _anomaly_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:42.05 | _anomaly_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:42.05 | _anomaly_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:42.05 | _anomaly_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:42.05 | _anomaly_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:42.40 | ruskie | check if you have the PLUGIN perm |
| 13:42.44 | whodaman- | yea |
| 13:42.53 | _anomaly_ | how do you set that perm, i have tried |
| 13:42.59 | whodaman- | isn't it PLUGINS? |
| 13:43.06 | ruskie | no clue |
| 13:43.07 | _anomaly_ | local.admin does not show it |
| 13:43.13 | ruskie | so add it to local.admin |
| 13:43.16 | _anomaly_ | yes it is PLUGINS |
| 13:43.20 | whodaman- | ok |
| 13:43.22 | _anomaly_ | I did, no good |
| 13:43.42 | whodaman- | reloaded everything in you config ? |
| 13:43.48 | _anomaly_ | yep |
| 13:44.00 | _anomaly_ | i'll try restarting server... |
| 13:44.08 | whodaman- | yes! |
| 13:44.18 | whodaman- | you have to restart the server to reload the conf don't you? |
| 13:45.23 | _anomaly_ | yeah I know, just trying anyway, but same thing |
| 13:45.54 | _anomaly_ | oh wait, no you don't have to restart, just reload |
| 13:46.24 | whodaman- | I don't think /reload will work with the config |
| 13:46.26 | whodaman- | not sure |
| 13:46.55 | _anomaly_ | "/reload" will reload the databases, like groupdb.txt for instance |
| 13:47.21 | _anomaly_ | but I restarted anyway and still no go |
| 13:47.22 | whodaman- | but not the conf |
| 13:47.30 | whodaman- | hmm |
| 13:47.47 | _anomaly_ | my group perms are in my groupdb file |
| 13:48.12 | _anomaly_ | the config file is not where the perms are stored |
| 13:48.22 | whodaman- | i know, i was just saying |
| 13:48.28 | _anomaly_ | oh |
| 13:48.32 | whodaman- | do you have the correct path set to your group.txt |
| 13:48.36 | _anomaly_ | yes |
| 13:48.52 | _anomaly_ | it worked with the same files and paths with 2.0.9 |
| 13:49.18 | whodaman- | what client are you using now? |
| 13:49.56 | _anomaly_ | the server is 2.0.10RC2 |
| 13:50.16 | _anomaly_ | it doesn't matter which client i use, same thing happens |
| 13:50.25 | _anomaly_ | 2.0.9, 2.0.10x, |
| 13:50.36 | _anomaly_ | or even bzadmin |
| 13:51.14 | _anomaly_ | and it works if I "/password" |
| 13:51.27 | ruskie | yeah well that grants full privs |
| 13:51.46 | _anomaly_ | whats the diff between global auth and "/password" if they both get you local.admin perms? |
| 13:51.51 | CBG | do you have other perms assigned to your group? |
| 13:52.09 | _anomaly_ | yes, +antiban, etc |
| 13:52.21 | _anomaly_ | thios is the local.admin group |
| 13:52.24 | CBG | they work? |
| 13:52.24 | _anomaly_ | this* |
| 13:52.27 | _anomaly_ | yes |
| 13:52.31 | _anomaly_ | always have |
| 13:52.41 | CBG | then probably the perm is wrong |
| 13:52.50 | CBG | I thought it was "LOADPLUGIN(S)" |
| 13:52.54 | whodaman- | no |
| 13:53.00 | whodaman- | it's just PLUGINS |
| 13:53.08 | whodaman- | as you also want to use unloadplugins |
| 13:53.12 | whodaman- | it works with me |
| 13:53.17 | whodaman- | the perm PLUGINS |
| 13:53.17 | _anomaly_ | but in the code there does not seem to be a PLUGINS perm to set |
| 13:53.23 | CBG | .... right |
| 13:53.50 | CBG | so maybe TRY LOADPLUGINS ? |
| 13:54.04 | _anomaly_ | bzfs checks for PLUGINS perm to (un)loadplugin, but I can't find where this perm is apllied |
| 13:55.42 | _anomaly_ | do you use global auth to become local.admin or "/password"? |
| 13:57.02 | _anomaly_ | I never hada PLUGINS per before and was able to (un)loadplugins |
| 13:57.19 | _anomaly_ | perms i mean |
| 13:57.34 | _anomaly_ | had to explicitly add PLUGINS perm i mean |
| 14:11.04 | _anomaly_ | I got it to work, created new owner group, added +PLUGINS, reloaded db, loggedout, logged in, works |
| 14:11.18 | _anomaly_ | never had to have +PLUGINS before |
| 14:11.35 | _anomaly_ | probably headspace about getting it to work :P |
| 14:11.42 | _anomaly_ | thanks for your help |
| 14:15.07 | donny_baker | ~whodaman-++ |
| 14:15.17 | whodaman- | donny_baker, yep |
| 14:17.59 | _anomaly_ | maybe the trick was to log out and log back in? |
| 14:18.24 | donny_baker | ~karma whodaman- |
| 14:18.24 | ibot | whodaman- has karma of 1 |
| 14:18.35 | whodaman- | ~karma donny_baker |
| 14:18.35 | ibot | donny_baker has karma of 50 |
| 14:18.40 | donny_baker | ~karma CBG |
| 14:18.40 | ibot | cbg has karma of -437 |
| 14:18.45 | whodaman- | rofl |
| 14:19.04 | TheRedBaron | we love cbg |
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| 14:23.31 | CBG | yes, it seems you do. |
| 14:23.38 | _anomaly_ | thing is "/showperms" still does not list PLUGINS as a perm, but it is there in the group, and it works |
| 14:23.47 | CBG | I requested negative karma and I sure have a lot of what I asked for. :) |
| 14:24.39 | whodaman- | CBG, yea, donny told me |
| 14:24.49 | donny_baker | _anomaly_: so does the problem come back if you remove it and restart |
| 14:25.43 | _anomaly_ | if i remove the +plugins and reload, and log out/in i cannot load plugins |
| 14:26.02 | _anomaly_ | you have to have the PLUGINS perm |
| 14:27.18 | whodaman- | weird that it doesn't show up though |
| 14:27.24 | _anomaly_ | it seems that you have to log out/in to have the reloaded groups applied? |
| 14:27.30 | _anomaly_ | yeah that is weird |
| 14:32.18 | _anomaly_ | I see now that the code has changed in bzfsPlugins.cxx, in 2.0.8 the check was "if (!record.admin) ... fail" |
| 14:32.48 | _anomaly_ | now it is "if (record.hasPerms("PLUGINS")" |
| 14:33.27 | donny_baker | well it makes sense to have it be a permission |
| 14:39.53 | _anomaly_ | i agree |
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| 15:15.35 | whodaman- | What variables do i have to change so obesity doesn't fit through the teleporters? |
| 15:15.45 | Thumper_ | donny_baker / _anomaly_: JeffM added the PLUGINS perms for 2.0.10 but since plugins are optional during the build it's not in the regular permission list |
| 15:16.06 | whodaman- | Thumper_, thanks |
| 15:17.54 | _anomaly_ | thanks, makes sense |
| 15:18.56 | whodaman- | Thumper_, What variables do i have to change so obesity doesn't fit through the teleporters? |
| 15:19.13 | Thumper_ | I thought it doesn't fit thru by defautl |
| 15:19.25 | donny_baker | make the teleporters smaller :P |
| 15:19.32 | Thumper_ | unless you changed your teleporter widths |
| 15:19.41 | whodaman- | no I didn't |
| 15:19.46 | whodaman- | i'm using dutchrai's map |
| 15:19.53 | donny_baker | he may have |
| 15:20.08 | Thumper_ | /set lists all the vars |
| 15:20.29 | Thumper_ | probably this one |
| 15:20.30 | Thumper_ | /set _obeseFactor 2.500000 |
| 15:20.46 | whodaman- | teleport width 1.2 |
| 15:20.49 | whodaman- | 1.12 |
| 15:21.45 | donny_baker | whodaman-: so that makes a tank 2.5 times wider than normal |
| 15:21.59 | whodaman- | yea, thanks |
| 15:22.01 | whodaman- | you 2 |
| 15:22.22 | Thumper_ | I don't know if it affects tank height |
| 15:23.22 | whodaman- | Noodlema1, i don't think it does |
| 15:24.28 | whodaman- | wow |
| 15:24.41 | whodaman- | Noodlema1, i don't think it does* |
| 15:25.00 | donny_baker | hehe... autocopleting no :P |
| 15:25.07 | Thumper_ | it might |
| 15:25.07 | whodaman- | no i don't think it does??!?! |
| 15:25.10 | whodaman- | there |
| 15:25.23 | Thumper_ | the bounding box for the tank is specified as a radius |
| 15:25.29 | Thumper_ | depends if that is 2D or 3D |
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| 15:25.48 | Thumper_ | it definitely affects width and length |
| 15:26.07 | Thumper_ | does _not_ affect height |
| 15:26.16 | whodaman- | ok |
| 15:26.22 | Thumper_ | only X,Y axis |
| 15:26.33 | Thumper_ | err X,Z ? |
| 15:26.36 | Thumper_ | Y is up |
| 15:26.41 | whodaman- | depends |
| 15:26.44 | Thumper_ | or something |
| 15:26.52 | whodaman- | in text z is up |
| 15:27.09 | whodaman- | and in wings for example it's z |
| 15:27.14 | whodaman- | i think |
| 15:27.27 | Thumper_ | the tank size is specified as 3 values, |
| 15:27.40 | Thumper_ | first 2 are scaled by obesefactor (or tinyfactor or thieftinyfactor) |
| 15:27.48 | Thumper_ | and the last is tankheight (not scaled) |
| 15:28.00 | Thumper_ | so it definitely does not affect tank height |
| 15:28.08 | whodaman- | oh, i was thinking of a "box" |
| 15:28.10 | Thumper_ | (on v2_0branch at least) |
| 15:28.10 | whodaman- | while map making |
| 15:28.59 | whodaman- | i guess my obesetanks will just have fit through teles |
| 15:29.33 | randomparticle | if they get fat, it's their problem. we don't go around making doors wider for them |
| 15:29.36 | Thumper_ | just make obesefactor bigger |
| 15:29.58 | CBG | 'ello snicker |
| 15:30.02 | Thumper_ | obese tanks normally don't fit in teleporters IIRC |
| 15:30.13 | CBG | teleporters can be any size Thumper_ |
| 15:30.17 | whodaman- | Thumper_, i don't want it to be too huge |
| 15:30.18 | Thumper_ | default teleporters |
| 15:30.22 | whodaman- | but you're right i guess |
| 15:30.23 | Thumper_ | as in autocreated ones |
| 15:30.25 | Thumper_ | on a random map |
| 15:30.29 | CBG | ah right |
| 15:30.29 | whodaman- | yes |
| 15:30.36 | whodaman- | it also says so if you press |
| 15:30.38 | whodaman- | "f" |
| 15:30.46 | whodaman- | does not fit through teleporters |
| 15:30.52 | Thumper_ | you can make teleporters smaller so regular tanks fit and obese don't or you can make obese really fat |
| 15:30.57 | Thumper_ | or you can just let them thru |
| 15:31.39 | whodaman- | i'd prob have to make obese fat, cause the tele is made to fit into an exact spot |
| 15:31.51 | whodaman- | whodaman.no-ip.biz:6050 |
| 15:31.57 | whodaman- | if you wanna see |
| 15:32.02 | Thumper_ | can't not - at work |
| 15:32.06 | Thumper_ | can't now* |
| 15:32.17 | whodaman- | oh, sorry |
| 15:32.43 | Thumper_ | don't be :) no work -> no money -> no bzflag. so work is a necessary evil |
| 15:32.54 | whodaman- | heh |
| 15:35.16 | whodaman- | lol, i killed my teammate with geno, and was immediately kicked |
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| 17:43.33 | *** mode/#bzflag [+b *!*@205.246.157.*] by JeffM2501 |
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| 17:43.49 | JeffM2501 | anyone know if harmless is on dynamic or static IP? |
| 17:47.58 | ts | harmless == CRW? |
| 17:48.14 | JeffM2501 | no |
| 17:48.16 | JeffM2501 | well maybe |
| 17:48.27 | JeffM2501 | but they are not related in my mind at this time |
| 17:48.32 | whodaman- | JeffM2501, the guy who's PM EVERYONE on the forums |
| 17:48.35 | JeffM2501 | yes |
| 17:48.37 | ts | Just wondering |
| 17:48.39 | whodaman- | jesus! |
| 17:48.44 | JeffM2501 | well he's not doing it any more |
| 17:48.45 | JeffM2501 | he can't |
| 17:48.56 | JeffM2501 | does anyone know if he's static or dynamic? |
| 17:48.58 | whodaman- | donny_baker already wrote him email |
| 17:49.04 | JeffM2501 | I know |
| 17:49.13 | JeffM2501 | do you have any information on my question? |
| 17:49.31 | whodaman- | does he also play under that nickname? |
| 17:49.40 | JeffM2501 | I do not know |
| 17:50.04 | JeffM2501 | he's recently changed his name to be an isnult to people that won't let him use bzbb as his own personal soapbox |
| 17:50.36 | whodaman- | hmm, i've had a player HarmLess on a server a couple times before but i can't remember if his IP was different |
| 17:50.49 | whodaman- | i'll let you know if see him |
| 17:52.04 | brlcad | yeah, I don't think they're the same guy |
| 17:52.24 | brlcad | but dunno re the IP |
| 17:52.36 | whodaman- | ok |
| 17:52.41 | JeffM2501 | harmless and head on are the same person |
| 17:52.45 | JeffM2501 | that has been verified. |
| 17:52.51 | JeffM2501 | weeks ago |
| 17:52.58 | whodaman- | Ok... |
| 17:52.59 | JeffM2501 | he's just never posted on the boards so I can't get an IP log for him |
| 17:53.00 | Erroneous | JeffM2501: you saw http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?p=115833#115833 correct? installer seems to not install pdcurses.dll |
| 17:53.10 | JeffM2501 | yes I am aware of that Erroneous |
| 17:53.15 | Erroneous | k, cool |
| 17:53.23 | JeffM2501 | I want to use a staic curses |
| 17:53.30 | JeffM2501 | but it seems I'm using a dyamic one |
| 17:53.36 | JeffM2501 | I used to use a static |
| 17:56.09 | brlcad | stoic curses are more fun and friendly in polite company |
| 17:56.11 | brlcad | "doh" |
| 17:57.28 | JeffM2501 | what are our global auth request -> IP log searching options? |
| 17:58.11 | brlcad | quite extensive, just takes a bit of time |
| 17:58.20 | brlcad | what IP/names? |
| 17:58.23 | JeffM2501 | be cool to put a web interface |
| 17:58.27 | JeffM2501 | head on |
| 17:58.29 | JeffM2501 | harmless |
| 17:58.40 | JeffM2501 | !!!!Jeff Helps Da Cheats |
| 17:58.49 | JeffM2501 | .....Devs helps da cheats |
| 17:58.59 | JeffM2501 | fun names, all of them ;) |
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| 18:00.35 | brlcad | eek! .. i forgot i turned off log rotation a couple weeks ago... |
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| 18:01.15 | brlcad | a month of bzfls logs .. ouch |
| 18:02.30 | brlcad | that's gonna take hours to archive compress |
| 18:04.24 | _anomaly_ | JeffM: I show harmless on the same IP for about two weeks in some logs from earlier this year. (66.31.234.138) |
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| 18:18.37 | brlcad | someone named as harmless and mostly harmless have logged 43 times in the past month, most notably identified and unidentified coming from various IP addresses |
| 18:19.20 | brlcad | looks like someone is spoofing the player potentially too, as there is an unidentified person logging in with almost the identical name but wrong case |
| 18:19.32 | brlcad | HaRmLeSs vs HaRmLesS |
| 18:21.11 | brlcad | looks like HaRmLeSs (71.109) is pretending to be the real HaRmLesS (66.31) |
| 18:21.21 | brlcad | but only a couple times |
| 18:21.50 | brlcad | mostly harmless seems completely unrelated |
| 18:22.15 | JeffM2501 | odd |
| 18:22.19 | JeffM2501 | but ok |
| 18:22.21 | JeffM2501 | thanks for the info |
| 18:22.24 | _anomaly_ | he's certainly not as hard to hit as HaRmLesS |
| 18:23.42 | JeffM2501 | has he been doing anything bad on servers? |
| 18:23.49 | donny_baker | brlcad... that would most likely be Puma using HaRmLesS... they is some long stanging fued between them |
| 18:24.06 | donny_baker | they both use variations of the others names |
| 18:24.30 | donny_baker | standing even |
| 18:24.40 | JeffM2501 | I am somewhat reulcatant to masterban for just saying crap on bzbb |
| 18:25.04 | donny_baker | yeah, i don't think that is necessary at this point |
| 18:25.52 | Thumper_ | JeffM2501: methinks he's dynamic |
| 18:26.02 | _anomaly_ | HaRmLesS is either a VERY good player or using some subtle cheats, can't really say for sure, but he's always been civil |
| 18:26.02 | Thumper_ | Harmless and mostly harmless are two different players |
| 18:26.31 | Birdie | and one of those two is really an ass, always whines when he looses |
| 18:26.44 | ts | _anomaly_: I remember HaRmLesS to be easy to shoot |
| 18:27.18 | _anomaly_ | maybe its me,lol, but I can nail him with two shots side by side and not hit hime |
| 18:27.22 | _anomaly_ | *him |
| 18:27.59 | _anomaly_ | scrape the paint off his tank, his lag is ~50 on my server |
| 18:28.38 | _anomaly_ | i'm hitting other players, but not him. acts like a 'thin cheat' |
| 18:28.57 | _anomaly_ | but it may be my poor aim, or lag |
| 18:29.57 | _anomaly_ | he's certainly a prolific writer |
| 18:29.57 | donny_baker | my only issue with him on our servers is the way he treats others, i've never really noticed him to be terribly hard to hit |
| 18:30.05 | donny_baker | our = norang |
| 18:30.27 | donny_baker | and that isn't masterban-able |
| 18:30.37 | _anomaly_ | he's hit-able, just seems odd |
| 18:30.55 | donny_baker | there are ways for the servers to deal with it, if there is a problem |
| 18:31.26 | JeffM2501 | he's been banned from bzbb |
| 18:31.52 | JeffM2501 | if he keeps abbussing servers then we can look at a masterban |
| 18:32.15 | donny_baker | i agree with that, he was abusing the system and it is the only way to deal with that |
| 18:32.58 | JeffM2501 | he'd have been fine if he just did on a blog |
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| 18:33.22 | Tedius | I'm confused, are there two harmless's, one bad, and a good one that gets the bad rap because of the other? |
| 18:34.20 | Tedius | and the good one or the bad one wrote the "open letter"? |
| 18:34.26 | donny_baker | Tedius: no... there is only one HaRmLeSs, there is a "Mostly Harmless" who is a rather nice guy |
| 18:34.36 | donny_baker | the bad one wrote the letter |
| 18:35.36 | Tedius | wow, I was duped, I guess |
| 18:36.36 | donny_baker | well I beleive a lot of what he said in all his PMs, but he always seems to twist the truth so you don't know how much of it is real or which parts |
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| 18:45.01 | brlcad | for i in `ls -la *.bz2 | awk '{print $9}'` ; do printf "mv %s %s-%d%s%.2d-000000.bz2\n" $i `ls -la $i | awk '{print $9, $8, $6, $7}' | sed 's/\.[0-9]*\.bz2//g' | sed 's/00:00/2007/g'| sed 's/Jan/01/g' | sed 's/Feb/02/g' | sed 's/Mar/03/g' | sed 's/Apr/04/g' | sed 's/May/05/g' | sed 's/Jun/06/g' | sed 's/Jul/07/g' | sed 's/Aug/08/g' | sed 's/Sep/09/g' | sed 's/Oct/10/g' | sed 's/Nov/11/g' | sed 's/Dec/12/g'` ; done |
| 18:45.11 | brlcad | ~ww |
| 18:45.12 | ibot | Wrong Window. |
| 18:45.17 | tupone | holq brlcad |
| 18:45.23 | brlcad | ciaq tupone |
| 18:45.25 | tupone | well .. I meant hola |
| 18:45.36 | tupone | the french keyboard do this |
| 18:45.37 | brlcad | i meant ciaq |
| 18:45.57 | tupone | :) |
| 18:46.36 | brlcad | JeffM2501: yeah, I wouldn't think a masterban would be in order for anything that happens on the boards |
| 18:46.59 | brlcad | unless they're outright trying to take down the service |
| 18:47.59 | brlcad | once they span to multiple services though.. yeah |
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| 19:14.44 | tupone | hehe |
| 19:15.09 | Chestal | writing quick and dirty shell scripts is fun and easy |
| 19:15.24 | Chestal | but making them robst and work always is nearly impossible for me |
| 19:16.03 | brlcad | yeah, you can't make them robust and keep them fun+easy nor one-liners |
| 19:16.34 | brlcad | that above was just to do one task, renaming a slew of logfiles to consistently include the date in the filename |
| 19:16.46 | brlcad | that's pretty contrained.. the general case would be horrible |
| 19:17.11 | Chestal | I have some hacked scripts with even longer sed cascades |
| 19:18.41 | Chestal | and my main use of awk is to extract columns, too :-) |
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| 20:46.18 | TheRedBaron | some of my PMs on the forums have been deleted... any idea why? |
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| 20:47.28 | Manu | TheRedBaron: probably wrong topics |
| 20:47.55 | JeffM2501 | TheRedBaron, they may have been to a user that was deleted |
| 20:48.08 | JeffM2501 | a user was recently deleted |
| 20:48.21 | TheRedBaron | JeffM2501: ah ok. |
| 20:49.13 | Manu | all my PM responding about bans are deleted too ;) |
| 20:49.44 | JeffM2501 | if it was to or from the deleted user, thent hey get pulled with the user. |
| 20:54.06 | _anomaly_ | thanks for cleaning out my inbox :D |
| 20:55.39 | JeffM2501 | dude just needs to get a blog, it's it's not hard. They are free. |
| 20:56.38 | whodaman- | JeffM2501, he should unload all his thoughts+comments there |
| 20:56.56 | L4m3r | JeffM2501: he can't force people to read a blog :P |
| 20:57.02 | JeffM2501 | exactly |
| 20:58.14 | L4m3r | it doesn't really matter, though. he's long overdue for something. |
| 20:58.30 | JeffM2501 | perhaps |
| 20:58.44 | JeffM2501 | that's a line of thought I can't go down to be fair |
| 20:58.51 | L4m3r | yeah, I know |
| 20:59.02 | L4m3r | but he's still one of the older trolls around |
| 21:00.01 | JeffM2501 | I'd just be happy to be done with it all |
| 21:00.33 | JeffM2501 | if he wants to place nice with the other childern and get his stuff back, then fine. if he dosn't he stays how he is now. no skin off my nose ether way |
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| 21:19.54 | TheRedBaron | brlcad: ping |
| 21:22.00 | TheRedBaron | brlcad: while trying to start a server on bzflag.bz, i get this error: /libexe/ld-elf.so.1: Shared Object "libcurl.so.3" not found |
| 21:23.55 | brlcad | k |
| 21:24.08 | brlcad | i'll have to fix that later, or can get dtr to fix it |
| 21:24.14 | brlcad | i'm about to run out for a few hours |
| 21:25.22 | TheRedBaron | brlcad: no hurry |
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| 21:41.50 | Constitution | hmm yeah, I think half my BZBB inbox disappeared |
| 21:45.12 | L4m3r | I guess I should be glad I pissed him off, because he never sent me PMs again afterward. |
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| 22:08.39 | JeffM2501 | the first time I had told him to only send his crap to people who said it was ok. |
| 22:08.49 | JeffM2501 | obviously he did not care to listen to that |
| 22:10.09 | L4m3r | nah, this was before. he was asskissing the mofo admins via PM and I called him on it |
| 22:10.32 | JeffM2501 | well it's done with now |
| 22:10.43 | JeffM2501 | he can go get a blog and be all emo on his own |
| 22:10.59 | L4m3r | just out of curiousity, how could you tell it was a script? |
| 22:11.14 | JeffM2501 | I was told it was a script, I belive that info was from his own admision |
| 22:11.19 | L4m3r | oh |
| 22:12.06 | JeffM2501 | wouldn't be a hard script to write |
| 22:12.17 | L4m3r | nah |
| 22:12.25 | L4m3r | probably widely avalable on the internet |
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| 22:25.25 | JeffM2501 | wheeee |
| 22:29.33 | eTangenT | that was fun, let's do it again! |
| 22:30.16 | JeffM2501 | ok, you ready? |
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| 22:30.26 | JeffM2501 | wheeee |
| 22:31.05 | Winny | lol |
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| 22:31.47 | eTangenT | Mommy, I think I got a booboo.. :( |
| 22:31.59 | eTangenT | Winny, will you kiss it and make it better? :P |
| 22:32.04 | Winny | never |
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| 23:22.14 | Winny_ | only 1/2 of my windows are opening |
| 23:22.30 | Winny_ | oh, not my normal |
| 23:22.32 | Winny_ | name |
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| 23:40.36 | AAA_awright | blast007 JeffM2501 brlcad: Check the bottom of http://my.bzflag.org/db/?action=LIST |
| 23:40.57 | JeffM2501 | that'st the best server |
| 23:41.13 | JeffM2501 | you haven't played on Permission denied? |
| 23:41.20 | AAA_awright | No, is it good? |
| 23:41.21 | JeffM2501 | the lag is nonexisteant |
| 23:41.37 | AAA_awright | Neat. |
| 23:41.57 | JeffM2501 | what does the client do with that line? |
| 23:42.01 | JeffM2501 | freak? or just skip it? |
| 23:42.21 | AAA_awright | It should discard it, but it shouldn't be there anyways |
| 23:42.28 | JeffM2501 | sure |
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| 23:42.43 | JeffM2501 | but should and do are not the same thing ;) |
| 23:43.24 | AAA_awright | It seems to ignore it, so it's not a critical error. But it's making my list server scanner turn bad. |
| 23:43.47 | JeffM2501 | well your scanner should be as robust as the client |
| 23:44.02 | JeffM2501 | I'll look at the lsit code, but it's a possibility that can happen, so you should suport it |
| 23:45.03 | JeffM2501 | hmm it's with the debug log |
| 23:45.29 | AAA_awright | It detects the error and discards the entire list, and takes much longer going through each server instead. |
| 23:45.52 | JeffM2501 | sounds like an implementaion flaw on your scanners part |
| 23:47.51 | JeffM2501 | guess I can comment out the logging for now |
| 23:48.09 | AAA_awright | Better then not going through any server... I am seeing right now if I can just discard lines and not assume the entire thing is sour |
| 23:48.31 | CBG | check on a line by line basis..? |
| 23:48.36 | JeffM2501 | one would think that if lowly C++ could do it, php can |
| 23:49.41 | CBG | foreach($lines as $line) { if (line sucks) $line = NULL } ? |
| 23:50.47 | AAA_awright | I need to check if there is any useful data to begin with, it could be a blocked site error, ect... (This is my BZFlag_Info script some other people use too) |
| 23:51.15 | JeffM2501 | we could also add info for any newer servers |
| 23:51.21 | JeffM2501 | you shoudl fail cleanly per line |
| 23:51.48 | CBG | do what other checks you like. I am just demonstrating it is clearly possible to check for that last line |
| 23:51.53 | AAA_awright | There is no magic key that I can check to be sure it is returned from db/my.bzflag.org |
| 23:52.11 | JeffM2501 | you can chekc to see if the proto is in the right field |
| 23:52.19 | JeffM2501 | since hostnames can't have spaces |
| 23:52.50 | JeffM2501 | for current stuff, the first 4 characters after the first space are always BZFS |
| 23:52.55 | JeffM2501 | then you read the version |
| 23:52.58 | JeffM2501 | and know how to parse the rest |
| 23:53.00 | AAA_awright | Ah, yes, thanks |
| 23:53.16 | JeffM2501 | if you fail that first test ( no space or not BZFS ) skip the line |
| 23:53.45 | JeffM2501 | I mean cus you can also have auth and token info at the top, so the list already returns stuff that dosn't match a flat list |
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