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| 00:47.14 | ShadowSpectre | Has meteorite been in lately? |
| 00:47.37 | CBG | ~seen a_meteorite |
| 00:47.39 | ibot | a_meteorite <n=a_meteor@unaffiliated/ameteorite/x-000000001> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 5d 23h 4m 28s ago, saying: 'ogre is amazing'. |
| 00:47.46 | Winny | ShadowSpectre: he's MIA |
| 00:47.56 | CBG | since 6 days ago, approx. |
| 00:47.59 | ShadowSpectre | ooo his comp was acting up |
| 00:48.08 | Winny | it was? |
| 00:48.25 | ShadowSpectre | I know he recently reinstalled and for a while didn't even have bzflag installed either |
| 00:49.15 | ShadowSpectre | I'll email him and see what's up. Thanks! ;) |
| 00:50.03 | Macrosoft | :p |
| 00:50.09 | CBG | OMFG?!?!! NO BZ?!?! |
| 00:51.28 | Macrosoft | err... wz2100 i mean |
| 00:51.37 | tannerld | ??? |
| 00:52.00 | Winny | tannerld: www.wz2100.net |
| 00:52.16 | Macrosoft | game using 3d accel. + proprietary nvidia drivers = bad |
| 00:52.33 | Macrosoft | X server crash-age |
| 00:52.54 | Macrosoft | and freezin' every few seconds |
| 00:52.59 | Winny | ROFL... someone actually registered www.wzflag.net hahah |
| 00:53.04 | CBG | maybe you could try ##wz2100 ? |
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| 01:12.40 | AAA_awright_ | Meteorite is all but gone |
| 01:13.02 | AAA_awright_ | And /msg SeenServ, ibot's seen is literally dumb. |
| 01:13.46 | AAA_awright_ | Unless you are looking for someone who has not been here in 3 or more days... from(SeenServ) I haven't seen a_meteorite recently |
| 01:37.01 | Constitution | so passeth a worthy member of our community... may his name be continuously on our hearts and tongues from this day forth and forevermore, amen |
| 01:38.26 | Winny | ~lart Constitution |
| 01:38.26 | ibot | forces Constitution to use Outlook Express |
| 01:38.29 | Winny | ouch. |
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| 01:46.24 | Macrosoft | may <insert higher power here> have mercy on his soul |
| 01:47.49 | Djpenguin | who? |
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| 01:53.56 | Macrosoft | anyone know what console "portal" is on? |
| 01:56.49 | L4m3r | PC |
| 01:57.15 | L4m3r | I don't think Valve does console games... |
| 01:57.25 | Macrosoft | it looks fun |
| 01:57.35 | L4m3r | get the orange box ;) |
| 01:57.46 | Macrosoft | cant, no windows |
| 01:58.46 | Macrosoft | orange box site says its for pc, 360, and ps3 |
| 02:00.01 | L4m3r | wow |
| 02:02.04 | Macrosoft | oooh, theres a flash version, fun! |
| 02:04.48 | Macrosoft | ooh, fun with physics |
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| 09:16.17 | noyb | I thought it was just my iMac and some freak accident, but it doesn't seem so: my client will freeze when TH takes SW at some critical moment just before a SW fires. That's a real morale-buster. |
| 09:16.59 | noyb | I have seen it on the older PowerBooks and the iMac from 2001, and now my new MacBook Pro 15" |
| 09:18.01 | noyb | have you seen this problem? |
| 09:18.25 | noyb | This has been going on for years now. I guess I should speak up a little bit more... :-) |
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| 10:17.19 | ts | noyb: I had unresolved freezes at servers with flags on my ibook, it began with versions later than 2.0.2. On my imac there are no freezes |
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| 13:16.52 | delusional | I think the problem there has something to do with the map.. I've seen this problem, always with maps that have a large raised floor., not a lot of free floor space. |
| 13:18.23 | delusional | ... and on my intel-mac |
| 13:19.32 | delusional | if you cover the entire floor with a mesh, it can happen on any flag drop |
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| 16:26.11 | Djpenguin | n/ |
| 16:35.41 | delusional | what's the height of the bottom of the tank, at the highest point of a default jump? |
| 16:36.46 | JeffM | highest point is nearly imposible to make |
| 16:36.53 | JeffM | 15 units, anyone can do. |
| 16:37.00 | JeffM | 18 is harder |
| 16:37.07 | JeffM | 19 is nearly imposible |
| 16:37.32 | CBG | 19 _is_ impossible with default settings. |
| 16:37.50 | Winny | IIRC, 17.5 needs you to be lined up within 1.5 units. |
| 16:37.53 | JeffM | the closer you get to the apex, the shorter the timing windows. |
| 16:37.53 | CBG | the max height box one can jump onto is between 18 and 19 units. |
| 16:37.56 | Winny | (when you make the jump) |
| 16:38.16 | DTRemenak | see http://my.bzflag.org/w/World_units |
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| 16:40.43 | nn-main | Hi |
| 16:40.44 | nn-main | ?? |
| 16:40.50 | JeffM | hello |
| 16:40.51 | tannerld | hi |
| 16:41.09 | nn-main | im not a programmer bu im wontering if this could work |
| 16:41.38 | nn-main | if they could implement a simple turet function into bzflag |
| 16:41.45 | Chestal | delusional_: jumpvel^2 / gravity / 2 |
| 16:41.46 | CBG | this can in fact work. |
| 16:41.46 | JeffM | no durrets |
| 16:41.48 | CBG | but that, well, that is another kettle of fish entirely. |
| 16:41.55 | Winny | JeffM: hehe |
| 16:41.59 | JeffM | we don't do turrets cus we can can't |
| 16:42.05 | JeffM | but because we don't want to |
| 16:42.07 | nn-main | ie the center square could move left right up down |
| 16:42.17 | JeffM | it's a game play choice |
| 16:42.22 | JeffM | not one of mechanics |
| 16:42.23 | nn-main | pointing where your aming |
| 16:42.29 | JeffM | you can stop |
| 16:42.44 | Winny | You could also fit all your idea into one, easy to read sentence. |
| 16:42.45 | Winny | insted |
| 16:42.46 | Winny | of thi |
| 16:42.49 | nn-main | but can not go farther then the normal edges of your screen |
| 16:42.54 | JeffM | nn-main: stop |
| 16:42.55 | JeffM | read |
| 16:43.30 | nn-main | then ??? |
| 16:43.40 | JeffM | any kind of turret adds complexity, we won't add them for that reason |
| 16:43.44 | JeffM | it is a choice we made |
| 16:43.59 | nn-main | ??? |
| 16:44.05 | nn-main | not really |
| 16:44.09 | JeffM | yes really |
| 16:44.10 | Winny | nn-main: learn to read. |
| 16:44.19 | JeffM | bzflag is meant to be a simple game |
| 16:44.33 | JeffM | as part of the little game design we do, we have said, no turrets |
| 16:44.49 | JeffM | it has nothing to do with programing, or coming up with a good interface or controll |
| 16:44.57 | JeffM | it is simply a game play CHOICE |
| 16:45.07 | nn-main | since the turet box would snap to center it means sertian servers can disable it and players dont have to use it becaude it snaps back to center |
| 16:45.10 | Winny | if you want complexity, go to another game, is the bottom line. |
| 16:45.22 | nn-main | well of its a game choice o well :( |
| 16:45.35 | Winny | nn-main: 1) learn to read 2) please use puntuation. |
| 16:45.37 | JeffM | you are more then welcome to fork the code into your own branch that has these features |
| 16:45.51 | JeffM | that is the beauty of open source. |
| 16:46.00 | JeffM | but as for the mainlin bzflag,it will not have turrets |
| 16:46.08 | nn-main | i just think some people think its to easy |
| 16:46.10 | JeffM | not unless we take a major turn in game design |
| 16:47.13 | nn-main | well do you have a nother feature that you have fore the 3 and 4 access of my game pad? |
| 16:47.23 | JeffM | no |
| 16:47.33 | nn-main | oh.... |
| 16:47.34 | JeffM | nothing says we have to use all axes on YOUR game pad |
| 16:48.00 | nn-main | ok |
| 16:48.07 | JeffM | I mean we got nothing for the other 10 on mine |
| 16:48.19 | Winny | more firing buttons :p |
| 16:48.27 | JeffM | axes, not buttons |
| 16:48.31 | Winny | oh |
| 16:48.36 | JeffM | for buttons I have 37 |
| 16:49.01 | nn-main | how did relax's field get so popular ??? i was the first to host it? |
| 16:49.13 | Chestal | you could map them to scroll, radar zoom, main view zoom |
| 16:49.24 | Winny | It became popular independent of your hosting. |
| 16:49.31 | nn-main | lol |
| 16:49.33 | Winny | The server does not make the map. The map makes the server. |
| 16:49.47 | JeffM | well a bad server can ruin a map |
| 16:49.52 | nn-main | y i hate comcast |
| 16:49.52 | nn-main | comcast ======== LAG!!!!! |
| 16:49.57 | JeffM | so you have to have a good sterver to start with |
| 16:50.17 | Winny | IE, not on a home connection... NN: you can get a VPS for like 20-30$ a month. |
| 16:50.54 | nn-main | But im stuck on a masive 5 year comcast contract over $2000 |
| 16:51.06 | Winny | ...jesus. |
| 16:51.15 | JeffM | well that's your fault for agreeing to that with out doing research |
| 16:51.32 | Winny | ~5000/ (12 * 5) |
| 16:51.32 | ibot | 83.333333333333 |
| 16:51.38 | nn-main | it would coust over $2000 to get off it we checked :( |
| 16:52.20 | JeffM | usualy you can complain out of it |
| 16:52.22 | nn-main | JeffM: i did do reasearch |
| 16:52.35 | JeffM | then why didn't you go with a colo with way more bandwith? |
| 16:52.52 | JeffM | 9$ a month can get you dedicated machine somwhere and a gig or more of bandwith |
| 16:52.55 | nn-main | More band with ====== more cost |
| 16:52.57 | JeffM | 90$ sorry |
| 16:52.59 | JeffM | not realy |
| 16:53.09 | JeffM | how much bandiwth do you get now? |
| 16:53.23 | Winny | JeffM: I have no idea whre your colo is... the one in downtown ottawa wanted 1000$ a month. |
| 16:53.28 | nn-main | well if you have a host that hosts 200 + people |
| 16:53.35 | JeffM | Winny: they are all over |
| 16:53.37 | nn-main | im trying to make my own |
| 16:53.46 | JeffM | nn-main: your trying to make your own what? |
| 16:53.53 | nn-main | host |
| 16:53.59 | Winny | uh |
| 16:54.03 | JeffM | yeah you rent a machine at a datacenter |
| 16:54.13 | JeffM | and it gets a dedicated link to the net |
| 16:54.18 | JeffM | your the only one ON that machine |
| 16:54.21 | Winny | www.sagonet.com ... 50$ a month. |
| 16:54.34 | JeffM | serverpronto, and there are others |
| 16:54.52 | JeffM | if you don't own the machine, there is no reason for it to be near you, you never have to GO to it |
| 16:54.53 | Winny | 1and1 offers 2000gb/month for 100$ |
| 16:54.55 | nn-main | look i dont want to use some one elses success im tring to make my own |
| 16:55.06 | JeffM | sucses? |
| 16:55.09 | Winny | ... you don't get it |
| 16:55.17 | JeffM | I don't mean another bzflag server |
| 16:55.23 | JeffM | I mean you just rent from a datacenter |
| 16:55.31 | JeffM | or do you mean your trying to make your own data center at home? |
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| 16:55.36 | JeffM | using cable modems? |
| 16:56.10 | Winny | JeffM: haha |
| 16:56.10 | brlcad | it could possibly have turret control with multi-player tanks .. maintain simplicity by dividing up the task among two players (one only drives, one only aims), but would be pretty damn experimental to see if it'd even work out well |
| 16:56.22 | nn-main | ??????????? im trying to learn how to matain and keepup a server email programs etc.... not that band with is good but atleast im learning stuff for later in life...... Yes cable modem |
| 16:56.37 | JeffM | nn-main: you do that on a dedicated machien too |
| 16:56.41 | JeffM | you run the full admin on the computer |
| 16:56.46 | JeffM | they just plug it into the net for you |
| 16:56.52 | JeffM | you realy need to do more research |
| 16:56.59 | Winny | nn-main: if you buy a server from something like www.sagonet.com, it is hosted in a datacenter, you have COMPLETE ROOT ACCESS to the server |
| 16:57.25 | brlcad | that's the case for just about any dedicated host |
| 16:57.36 | JeffM | indeed |
| 16:57.40 | Winny | heck... even getting a VPS gives you root access... |
| 16:57.41 | JeffM | they just repair the hardware |
| 16:57.51 | nn-main | winny , if all goes well one day i hope to run a compleate data center |
| 16:57.52 | JeffM | vps is shared bandiwth and resources. |
| 16:58.05 | Winny | JeffM: but it is cheaper ;) |
| 16:58.10 | JeffM | nn-main: then you should be looking at fiber, and ATMs |
| 16:58.17 | JeffM | not cable modems out of a house |
| 16:58.24 | nn-main | lol Y |
| 16:58.33 | JeffM | real datacenters are multihomed and have internal routing |
| 16:58.42 | Winny | cable modem: 10mb/s down, 1mb/s up |
| 16:58.51 | JeffM | there are also reilability issues |
| 16:58.54 | Winny | datacenter... 10+gb/s |
| 16:58.57 | brlcad | atm is dying/dead |
| 16:59.00 | nn-main | thanks for the advice they;;; fiber usually goes for around $2000 a moth form what i here |
| 16:59.02 | JeffM | single point of entry is not good |
| 16:59.21 | JeffM | nn-main: that's why you get a buiding near a trunk ;) |
| 16:59.33 | Winny | nn-main: this is what you'd need for a datacenter, probably: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OC-192 |
| 16:59.51 | JeffM | but if your serious about it, you'll learn |
| 17:00.07 | nn-main | Yup thanks for the help |
| 17:00.25 | JeffM | it just dosn't make sense to complain about your ISP, when it's the one you choise after doing your research |
| 17:00.38 | nn-main | weill atleast for small irc you dont need to wory about lag :) |
| 17:01.26 | JeffM | no, just upstream bandwith |
| 17:01.30 | JeffM | how much did they give you? |
| 17:01.32 | Winny | nn-main: lemme put it this way... a datacenter would probably have ~100+ customers, maybe 1000's... if you try to host it on a cable connection, you would probably need at least 10 connections per server, to get a acceptable upload. |
| 17:02.02 | Winny | since the bare minimum upload on a server is usually 10mbit... most datacenters provide 100mbit. |
| 17:02.24 | nn-main | 768kbits/s but if i have a lot of small conections ie bzflag i have gotten up to almost 2 Mb before |
| 17:02.42 | Winny | that it still really low. |
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| 17:02.56 | nn-main | Y i know o-well |
| 17:03.00 | Winny | right now, bloodbath is pulling 3mbit off of my server |
| 17:03.07 | JeffM | IRC is wordy and can flood that out fast |
| 17:03.10 | JeffM | since it's all TCP |
| 17:03.22 | nn-main | atleast my parents are paying for the internet |
| 17:03.46 | JeffM | ahh that explains a lot |
| 17:03.56 | Winny | They won't be paying for OC-96 ;) |
| 17:04.11 | CBG | that line completely changed my outlook on this whole conversation |
| 17:04.19 | whodaman- | yea |
| 17:04.41 | Winny | CBG: "<nn-main> atleast my parents are paying for the internet" ? |
| 17:04.49 | CBG | yes. |
| 17:04.53 | CBG | "parents". |
| 17:04.58 | CBG | that word, pretty much. |
| 17:05.30 | CBG | no more visions of a 25 yr old in a bedsit full of hardware. |
| 17:05.37 | Winny | rofl |
| 17:05.46 | CBG | now I see myself... trying to run a database on my home wifi router. fail. |
| 17:06.16 | CBG | "but dad, we need to upgrade! my customers are complaining and want their $2000's back!" |
| 17:06.30 | Winny | "Not now, son." |
| 17:06.36 | CBG | I wish... |
| 17:06.59 | JeffM | no he'll learn before that |
| 17:07.02 | CBG | more like "No bloody chance! Not until you stop playing those stupid computer games 24/7 and learn to look after your clients!" |
| 17:07.10 | JeffM | dude, be nice |
| 17:07.20 | JeffM | if it's a learning experience it makes sense |
| 17:07.35 | JeffM | the only part that dosnt' is complaining over something that was his choice |
| 17:07.39 | nn-main | lol |
| 17:07.42 | CBG | that last line was what my father would say to me, no offence intended to anyone. |
| 17:07.44 | nn-main | verry funy |
| 17:07.54 | nn-main | none of that is true |
| 17:07.57 | nn-main | im 15 |
| 17:08.02 | JeffM | nn-main: you just have a lot to learn |
| 17:08.05 | JeffM | a lot |
| 17:08.08 | CBG | yeah, we see that now, nn-main. :) |
| 17:08.14 | CBG | you know more than I did at 15 |
| 17:08.15 | JeffM | and now it makes sense why you can't get a datacenter |
| 17:08.16 | nn-main | and im verry lucky to have 4 servers up |
| 17:08.20 | JeffM | so just don't complain ;) |
| 17:08.27 | Winny | I'm 15 too (well, 16 in like 2 weeks) |
| 17:08.37 | Winny | nn-main: 4 servers behind one connection :/ |
| 17:08.38 | CBG | look up general things like "server", "hosting", "dedicated servers" etc. wikipedia is a good place to start |
| 17:08.48 | nn-main | well i had no idea why i keept lusing people |
| 17:09.00 | nn-main | i getit now |
| 17:09.28 | CBG | the bzflag servers that hold the top of the list with 20+ players are hosting in real datacenters on machines that cost the owners $100/month |
| 17:09.31 | nn-main | o well maby my entire vertual school chatting scheem will work |
| 17:09.54 | Winny | CBG: bloodbath is currently on a 15$ a month VPS :p |
| 17:10.02 | nn-main | i wrote a program that gets past there block and conects to my chat server |
| 17:10.03 | Winny | not for long... though. |
| 17:10.10 | nn-main | automatically |
| 17:10.17 | nn-main | so we can all chat |
| 17:10.36 | CBG | ok, but that is only one bz server. a $100 dedicated server can host many of those. I'm talking about Norang, for example. |
| 17:10.47 | Winny | or Planet Mofo |
| 17:10.48 | JeffM | by "Get around" you mean "use port 80"? |
| 17:10.57 | nn-main | no |
| 17:10.59 | nn-main | ... |
| 17:11.20 | nn-main | past netnany the clients blocker for all fun stuff |
| 17:11.31 | Winny | nn-main: you mean, connect to another server via SSH? |
| 17:11.40 | nn-main | no no IRC |
| 17:11.45 | nn-main | irc server |
| 17:11.49 | nn-main | for the school |
| 17:12.00 | nn-main | using a client i built |
| 17:12.09 | whodaman- | Winny, he would need a password? |
| 17:12.17 | JeffM | you wrote the entire IRC client? |
| 17:12.25 | nn-main | any ways im off topic |
| 17:12.29 | Winny | heh |
| 17:12.32 | nn-main | no just modified it |
| 17:12.54 | Winny | as in, you swtiched the port to 80?... |
| 17:12.57 | nn-main | 0irc is the client i modified |
| 17:13.10 | nn-main | nv mind |
| 17:14.05 | brlcad | where's waldo! http://www.photopla.net/071006google/spiv1536/071006google06.jpg |
| 17:14.05 | nn-main | brlcad: Random |
| 17:14.08 | JeffM | ahh it's up |
| 17:14.12 | brlcad | nn-main: only to you :) |
| 17:14.22 | JeffM | nn-main: no that's actualy perfectly on topic for here |
| 17:14.22 | nn-main | lol |
| 17:14.45 | Winny | where are the devs? :P |
| 17:14.49 | JeffM | there we are |
| 17:15.08 | JeffM | it's a lot more grainy then I thoguht it would be |
| 17:15.08 | Winny | grrr |
| 17:15.23 | brlcad | the panorama is up too, but haven't found the link yet |
| 17:15.31 | brlcad | that's just someone that expanded the panorama |
| 17:15.36 | whodaman- | Jeff are you on that picture? |
| 17:15.41 | JeffM | yep |
| 17:15.46 | JeffM | and the other SoC One as well |
| 17:16.03 | Winny | which one are you? :P |
| 17:16.04 | whodaman- | what do you have on? |
| 17:16.08 | whodaman- | :P |
| 17:16.29 | brlcad | he's the one not wearing pants |
| 17:16.55 | CBG | so, shorts? |
| 17:17.14 | CBG | since I see one guy in shorts. |
| 17:17.15 | Winny | I think I found them :p |
| 17:17.30 | JeffM | what color is my shirt? |
| 17:17.31 | brlcad | nope |
| 17:17.33 | whodaman- | CBG, with the big beard |
| 17:17.45 | CBG | right |
| 17:17.48 | Winny | JeffM: brown? |
| 17:17.51 | nn-main | lol |
| 17:17.54 | JeffM | very good |
| 17:17.59 | brlcad | the big beard dude works for google |
| 17:18.06 | whodaman- | that beard is HUGE! |
| 17:18.10 | CBG | well, everyone else seems to be wearing pants of some kind |
| 17:18.14 | Winny | and next to you is someone with a green shirt? |
| 17:18.17 | brlcad | he does their development of the web interface |
| 17:18.18 | JeffM | what color is DTRemenak's shirt? |
| 17:18.25 | whodaman- | cool |
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| 17:18.30 | Winny | green? |
| 17:18.31 | whodaman- | when was this? |
| 17:18.39 | JeffM | last weekend |
| 17:18.43 | brlcad | next to him is webchick, she's a drupal dev |
| 17:18.47 | whodaman- | *where |
| 17:18.56 | JeffM | moutain view |
| 17:19.17 | whodaman- | was that the big google thing you flew to with learner? |
| 17:19.18 | CBG | there is another guy in shorts, infront of the big beardy guy, to the right a little too. sitting with a bag by his legs |
| 17:19.23 | whodaman- | and DTRemenak |
| 17:19.32 | JeffM | I'm not wearing shorts |
| 17:19.39 | JeffM | it was to chilly for shorts |
| 17:19.49 | CBG | so, just a shirt and socks? |
| 17:19.56 | brlcad | yup |
| 17:20.01 | JeffM | kilt |
| 17:20.03 | CBG | don't see him |
| 17:20.47 | JeffM | I'm right inbetween brlcad and DTRemenak |
| 17:20.51 | brlcad | okay better hint, he's the one with the 6 inch mohawk |
| 17:21.02 | CBG | don't see him |
| 17:21.19 | brlcad | i think waldo's behind him |
| 17:21.21 | whodaman- | JeffM, do the people next to you have glasses? |
| 17:22.10 | JeffM | yes they are both wearing glasses of some sort |
| 17:22.18 | whodaman- | ahah |
| 17:22.25 | Winny | brlcad: who's the mohawk? |
| 17:22.52 | whodaman- | JeffM, you got a under your chin? |
| 17:22.56 | brlcad | considering there's 34 people wearing glasses in the picture, that's probably a safe bet |
| 17:23.01 | CBG | sitting or standing? |
| 17:23.13 | whodaman- | i thought JeffM's sitting |
| 17:23.21 | whodaman- | maybe i'm wrong |
| 17:24.11 | Winny | are you in this part? http://bzfusion.net/BZBB/hmmm.jpg they kind of look like this: http://pics.bzleague.com/displayimage.php?album=6&pos=0 |
| 17:24.52 | JeffM | I'[ve shaved since then |
| 17:25.04 | whodaman- | i got you! |
| 17:25.06 | whodaman- | i think |
| 17:26.00 | CBG | brlcad is kneeling, jeans, dark shirt, backpack, dark glasses, looking to the right in Winny's section |
| 17:27.16 | whodaman- | and JeffM is also kneeling sorta to the left |
| 17:27.20 | SpazzyMcGee | I reckon I know which one is JeffM |
| 17:27.25 | whodaman- | a little further back |
| 17:27.56 | SpazzyMcGee | Brown shirt over a brown tshirt |
| 17:28.02 | CBG | whodaman-: the fair haired chap with green hoddy? don't think so |
| 17:28.11 | whodaman- | beard under the chin |
| 17:28.17 | whodaman- | no |
| 17:28.25 | CBG | i'm not sure about that either, SpazzyMcGee. thought about it.... doesn't seem to fit |
| 17:28.28 | ruskie | infornt of the guy standing with green shirt and dark suit |
| 17:28.36 | whodaman- | the guy to the right of the fair hearied |
| 17:28.40 | SpazzyMcGee | As opposed to a beard over the.... forhead? |
| 17:28.49 | Winny | SpazzyMcGee: my thoughts exactly :P |
| 17:28.57 | whodaman- | yep |
| 17:29.34 | whodaman- | SpazzyMcGee, you could have abeard other places too! :) |
| 17:29.58 | CBG | ya know what, the guy I mentioned to the left of the one in brown, also kneeling, green hoody... DTRemenak? |
| 17:30.05 | CBG | those three? |
| 17:30.13 | SpazzyMcGee | Can somebody link me to the BZFlag coppermine? |
| 17:30.16 | whodaman- | and who's too the right? |
| 17:30.23 | whodaman- | of jeff |
| 17:30.39 | CBG | brlcad is in the dark shirt and dark glasses, i'm pretty sure |
| 17:31.15 | whodaman- | very macho ;) |
| 17:31.22 | Winny | oh the suspense is killing me! not. |
| 17:31.46 | CBG | so we think jeff is in the brown (though I still dunno about that) and dtr is in the green hoody with fair hair |
| 17:31.49 | CBG | they could at least let us know if we're right |
| 17:32.45 | JeffM | I am in brown |
| 17:33.04 | ruskie | if I'm looking at this rigt... |
| 17:33.05 | whodaman- | JeffM, gotcha |
| 17:34.05 | CBG | gonna be easy to find where you live and stalk you now. |
| 17:34.07 | SpazzyMcGee | brlcad, jeff, DTR :http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/7105/devsdk1.jpg |
| 17:34.10 | SpazzyMcGee | Sorted. |
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| 17:34.33 | CBG | backwards order, but, yes. those 3. |
| 17:34.40 | JeffM | I've never hidden what town I live and work in |
| 17:34.47 | CBG | JeffM: i'm kidding |
| 17:34.58 | whodaman- | lol |
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| 17:35.20 | JeffM | heck if your paying attention, you'd know where to find the address where DTRemenak and myself work |
| 17:38.14 | brlcad | SpazzyMcGee: there's a flaw in your sorting algorithm ;) |
| 17:38.30 | SpazzyMcGee | gah |
| 17:38.40 | SpazzyMcGee | It's the other way around then. |
| 17:38.45 | CBG | yes. |
| 17:38.46 | whodaman- | yep |
| 17:38.58 | CBG | I keep saying: brlcad is in the dark shirt and dark glasses!!! |
| 17:39.28 | brlcad | and in the pink tu tu |
| 17:39.35 | CBG | if only... |
| 17:39.41 | whodaman- | haha |
| 17:41.22 | ruskie | CBG, just say infront of the guy in a green shirt wearing a dark suit that looks kinda like gates... :) |
| 17:41.28 | ruskie | and kneeling :) |
| 17:41.48 | brlcad | man could gates talk when he was drunk |
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| 20:11.07 | spldart | What are the prerequisites to run bzflag on windows XP and how do I check for each and every one? I have one machine that will not run it and it's driving me crazy. |
| 20:11.42 | a_meteorite | spldart: what is the machine specs? |
| 20:12.53 | spldart | soyo, athlon 1.2ghz, 256 ram, geforce 6200 a-le, win xp sp2... reinstalled and still have problem |
| 20:13.12 | a_meteorite | is there an error? |
| 20:13.29 | spldart | "bzflag has encountered and error and needs to close" |
| 20:13.37 | a_meteorite | and that seems sufficient to run, I have a P3 933, Intel i815, XP SP2+Linux, works great |
| 20:13.39 | spldart | No specifics |
| 20:13.44 | a_meteorite | heh, that's helpful :) |
| 20:14.30 | spldart | I've run bzflag in linux and windows down to amd k6-2 500, ati rage fury pro... although that's really weaksauce system specs |
| 20:22.29 | spldart | well.. thought I'd ask.. guess it's just not gonna run on all combinations of hardware |
| 20:23.07 | spldart | IB " latest driver?"... I've tried 3 from original packed driver to the latest from today and several between |
| 20:37.31 | catay | JeffM: a small typo correction in 2.0 branch (bz_GetAutoTeamEventData class) => http://catay.be/typofix.patch.txt |
| 20:37.42 | catay | it's also in 2.1 |
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| 21:45.32 | brlcad | here, the final |
| 21:45.33 | brlcad | http://www.photopla.net/071006google/ |
| 21:45.48 | brlcad | JeffMMain | DTRemenak .. and whomever else is interested |
| 21:51.09 | JeffMMain | thqat gives me a headake |
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| 21:53.53 | CIA-25 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r16045 10/trunk/bzflag/src/ (4 files in 2 dirs): |
| 21:53.53 | CIA-25 | BZFlag: spell PlayerID correctly |
| 21:53.55 | CIA-25 | BZFlag: chars for bools for the passable attributes. |
| 22:00.21 | tannerld | For those who are interested; FMC Winners: http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?p=115974 |
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| 22:09.23 | brlcad | nifty |
| 22:10.10 | Winny | I'm just too good for them :p |
| 22:11.41 | a_meteorite | I actually won something! I'm so honored! :D |
| 22:11.50 | whodaman- | heh :) |
| 22:17.11 | a_meteorite | SpazzyMcGee: ping |
| 22:17.25 | CBG | congrats, a_meteorite |
| 22:17.29 | a_meteorite | thank you |
| 22:17.58 | CBG | I was aiming for that creativity+ingenuity award... missed. apparently was quite close on the eye candy award |
| 22:18.09 | whodaman- | CBG, what map? |
| 22:18.17 | brlcad | a_meteorite: congrats |
| 22:18.25 | SpazzyMcGee | meteorite: pong |
| 22:18.29 | CBG | one that was never released. only MDG members have seen it |
| 22:19.02 | a_meteorite | SpazzyMcGee: someone said you did the graphic for the winners, but my name is "A Meteorite" in the BZBB/game. I only use "a_meteorite" on IRC |
| 22:19.09 | CBG | not sure it _will_ be released now. |
| 22:19.16 | a_meteorite | a little oversight, but I figured I'd let you know :) |
| 22:19.20 | brlcad | that's a fairly good template of categories to use for our GSoC-funded map-making competition |
| 22:19.40 | CBG | brlcad: oh? do tell us more :) |
| 22:19.41 | a_meteorite | thank you brlcad |
| 22:19.55 | a_meteorite | I really never expected that particular map to win especially, imho, my other one was much better :) |
| 22:19.59 | SpazzyMcGee | met: To be honest, are you really hung up on it? There's a lot of stuff that needs editing, and people know it's you. |
| 22:20.14 | brlcad | CBG: not quite yet -- bzworkbench needs to be polished up a little more as does bzwgen |
| 22:20.24 | a_meteorite | SpazzyMcGee: not really hung up on it, per se... but I figured I might as well point it out |
| 22:20.29 | a_meteorite | if it's too much trouble to edit, that's OK |
| 22:20.33 | CBG | i fail to see the relevance. |
| 22:20.44 | SpazzyMcGee | cool |
| 22:20.45 | brlcad | but there will be a funded competition within the year |
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| 22:21.05 | SpazzyMcGee | Thanks again to all those who took part (if there are any here) |
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| 22:21.48 | CBG | just funded by google (not soc)? or part of gsoc? |
| 22:22.01 | brlcad | not part of gsoc, gsoc is over |
| 22:22.11 | brlcad | but funded from monies that came from it |
| 22:22.12 | whodaman- | SpazzyMcGee, is it still possible for me to host skatepark? |
| 22:22.23 | CBG | brlcad: "google summer of code", i'm sure there's a new summer each year. :) hehe |
| 22:22.24 | whodaman- | i was talking to him about the map last week |
| 22:22.31 | CBG | but, I see. |
| 22:22.33 | whodaman- | He said he had lost his hoster |
| 22:22.34 | SpazzyMcGee | whodaman-: of course |
| 22:22.41 | brlcad | it's over for this year's summer :P |
| 22:22.51 | CBG | true, true. :) |
| 22:22.51 | brlcad | and not guaranteed for next |
| 22:23.04 | whodaman- | Ok, I thought there might be that prize |
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| 22:23.11 | SpazzyMcGee | We are only providing a month's hosting. |
| 22:23.15 | whodaman- | hosting by Mofo or something |
| 22:23.21 | whodaman- | ah ok |
| 22:23.24 | CBG | well, this year went pretty well. I would have thought next year was _likely_, at least... |
| 22:23.34 | whodaman- | we as in the mofo.kicks-ass.net |
| 22:23.55 | xxryan9559xx | does any one have trouble when building bzflag 2.08 in VC 8 express? |
| 22:23.58 | CBG | what's up, whodaman-? |
| 22:24.03 | xxryan9559xx | I get a bunch of errors |
| 22:24.32 | SpazzyMcGee | If there is an MDG map challenge next year, I won't be organizing it, that's for sure. |
| 22:24.35 | whodaman- | CBG, err what d'you mean |
| 22:24.52 | brlcad | SpazzyMcGee: heh, why's that? :) |
| 22:24.56 | whodaman- | SpazzyMcGee, to time consuming ? |
| 22:24.57 | CBG | whodaman-: just wondering what you're talking about... |
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| 22:25.17 | whodaman- | CBG, oh, no just about hosting tedius's skatepark. |
| 22:25.39 | SpazzyMcGee | brlcad, whodaman-: It was way more work than I was expecting. |
| 22:25.46 | whodaman- | ahh |
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| 22:26.27 | whodaman- | SpazzyMcGee, didn't the MDG team help |
| 22:26.44 | SpazzyMcGee | I forgot i'd have to do all the graphics, etc. while juggling a large amount of real world work. |
| 22:27.19 | whodaman- | I see. |
| 22:27.40 | brlcad | that's why I'd said that I want someone else to manage it as well :) |
| 22:27.45 | CBG | whodaman-: I was just wondering what you were talking about? |
| 22:27.54 | CBG | whodaman-: sadly, no, spaz did a lot. he had some help judging, but still not as much as he'd have liked, I think |
| 22:28.00 | brlcad | management takes time to do it well |
| 22:28.08 | CBG | I would have loved to help but I was just way too distracted. |
| 22:28.25 | whodaman- | CBG, i already explained what i was talking about ;) you missed ? |
| 22:28.29 | CBG | brlcad: I think we just held it at a bad time - for me at least. |
| 22:28.34 | whodaman- | CBG, oh, no just about hosting tedius's skatepark. |
| 22:28.37 | CBG | whodaman-: probably. I just had a client crash |
| 22:28.47 | CBG | you mentioned something about mofo.kicks-ass.net too |
| 22:28.51 | whodaman- | i heard |
| 22:29.01 | whodaman- | I'll paste hang on |
| 22:29.08 | CBG | thanks |
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| 22:36.23 | SpazzyMcGee | alright, night all |
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| 22:41.53 | ra12q | hi - i'm using bzflag with xinerama, and find it really annoying that my viewport is slap bang in the center of both screens. can i tell bzflag to only maximize to one of my monitors rather than using both? it makes playing it impossible |
| 22:48.37 | brlcad | ra12q: export SDL_SINGLEDISPLAY=1 |
| 22:49.08 | brlcad | might work -- depends whether xinerama makes it act like one logically or still multiple |
| 22:49.27 | brlcad | with usual multi-display, that var will make it only go fullscreen on the primary |
| 22:52.38 | ra12q | damn, that appears to have made little difference. this is using twinview a la NVidia, if it makes a difference? |
| 23:26.25 | KTL | cheater @ badgerking: Nightmare, but i think this cheater constantly takes other peoples nicks too |
| 23:26.36 | a_meteorite | KTL: going there |
| 23:27.36 | whodaman- | cheating how? |
| 23:28.49 | KTL | sharper gm angle |
| 23:28.58 | KTL | saw him get a flag where there was none |
| 23:29.01 | whodaman- | you sure? |
| 23:29.05 | KTL | it was subtle |
| 23:29.24 | KTL | but i was suspicious after he got a player way below him with gm |
| 23:29.49 | whodaman- | well i'm not @ there |
| 23:30.20 | KTL | and later i saw him get st right after he somehow survived a nice shooting round |
| 23:32.21 | a_meteorite | NightMare is a known cheater |
| 23:32.43 | KTL | yesterday there where 2 players |
| 23:32.53 | KTL | with wings cheat |
| 23:33.01 | KTL | i think 2 times the same guy |
| 23:33.52 | KTL | no forget it :D |
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