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00:07.19xxryan9559xxDoes anyone have a .zip for the forum theme? I keep getting redirected to another site.
00:08.06JeffM2501it was modified
00:08.11JeffM2501from some one on the phpbb site
00:08.15xxryan9559xxah
00:08.41blast007xxryan9559xx: I can get the theme name, 1 sec
00:09.10blast007Aeolus
00:09.18JeffM2501that was it
00:09.32xxryan9559xxhis website is the one that redirects me
00:09.46xxryan9559xxi think I could find it on another forum or torrent
00:10.10blast007http://www.phpbbstyles.com/viewtopic.php?t=342
00:10.33blast007all I did was google for 'phpbb Aeolus'  ;)
00:11.02xxryan9559xxthanks
00:11.11blast007np
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01:39.19Macrosoftyay im not banned
01:39.35a_meteoritewhat'd you do?
01:39.46Macrosofti got caught in a range ban
01:43.00Macrosoftwell... i dont _think_ i did anything
01:43.06blast007nah, wasn't you
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02:55.47bzbillyanyone know who is serving up boxy wars? i havent played in a long time but it looks like it's gone
02:55.56a_meteoriteI do
02:56.20a_meteoritepeople stopped playing it, that's why I've been hosting only bloodbath as of late
02:56.38blast007"Boxy War - Sponsored by BZFX - hosted on bzflag.pl"
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02:56.50blast007is that yours, a_meteorite?
02:57.07a_meteoriteI allowed him to serve it, but I'm not the hoster of that
02:57.16blast007k
02:57.39bzbillydoes anyone play on it anymore?
02:58.01a_meteoriteif you get a few people there, you might get a crowd
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03:20.05the_advocatorhi
03:20.11eT|tickedhello
03:20.12JeffM2501hi
03:20.12whodaman-hi
03:20.14the_advocatori need some help
03:20.24whodaman-yes?
03:20.25JeffM2501with finding a web IRC that works with tor?
03:20.32the_advocatori registered the name 'the advocator' on my.bzflag.org
03:20.40the_advocatorbut i typed me e-mail in wrong
03:21.06whodaman-Can't help you there
03:21.11JeffM2501I can
03:21.17whodaman-Jeff might
03:21.33the_advocatorok what do i do?
03:21.40JeffM2501re-register
03:21.45JeffM2501with the correct info
03:21.50the_advocatorthank you
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03:28.59the_advocatorthank you jeff it worked
03:29.28the_advocatordoes bzflag support tor? my government is bad
03:30.22blast007no
03:30.29L4m3rtor is often blocked due to abuse, and the game would be completely unplayable anyway
03:30.44blast007Tor is TCP only, and bzflag uses both TCP and UDP
03:30.51blast007latency would be unplayable, as L4m3r said
03:30.53the_advocatoroh, ok, i hope governemtn doesnt block me
03:30.55iWinnynot to mention most servers require UDP anyways
03:31.07the_advocatorwell alright ill try...
03:31.07blast007my servers actively block Tor users
03:31.09JeffM2501the_advocator: nope
03:31.20JeffM2501why does your government want you to not play games
03:31.41the_advocatorthey block web browsing why not?
03:31.53JeffM2501they block ALL web browsing?
03:32.01the_advocatorno just a lot of it
03:32.08JeffM2501exactly
03:32.11JeffM2501it's based on content
03:32.41JeffM2501bzflag's use as a pollitical dissedence tool is highly limited
03:33.17the_advocatorwell ill try without tor then... i hope it works the game looks very fun :)
03:33.24brlcadrun a server
03:33.50brlcadhave a bunch of red-team-only left-turn-only flags, have a bunch of blue-team-only right-turn-only flags
03:33.53brlcadsee who wins
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03:39.57tannerld_macbrlcad: that would be interesting
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03:48.48tannerld_macMacrosoft: don't do it if you have ati :P
03:48.58Macrosoftnvidia
03:49.14tannerld_macgo for it then
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04:28.41Thumper_JeffM2501: ping
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04:36.52Thumper_R16038 looks wrong to me (v2_0branch)  won't compile on GCC 3.3.5.  There are lots of other places in the code base that does std::string == "some string" so is there really something wrong with the original line this commit changes?
04:37.29JeffM2501what line?
04:38.07Thumper_-if (koth.teamPlay && (getTeamColor(koth.team) != "ROGUE"))
04:38.18Thumper_getTeamColor returns a std::string
04:38.37Thumper_the commit message is "Can't compare a string literal with a const char* using '=='.
04:38.44blast007why do a string comparison at all?
04:38.56blast007can't it just directly check koth.team?
04:39.26Thumper_oh probably. LouMan wrote that code originally
04:40.02Thumper_so change it to koth.Team != eRougeTeam (or whatever the constant is instead). I like that better. thanks
04:41.18Thumper_but the real question is if there's something inherently wrong with the string compare in the first place (other than it's inefficient)
04:41.21Thumper_it's legal C++ right?
04:42.31blast007might be more proper to contain "ROGUE" like std::string("ROGUE")
04:44.27Thumper_I'm just confused about why macsforme changed it in the first place
04:45.12Thumper_I'll try to catch him when he's on and ask... in the meantime I'll rewrite that line w/o the string compare for v2_0branch
04:45.17Thumper_that okay with you JeffM2501 ?
04:45.35eT|tickedSee, Const breaks everything. I keep mentioning this, he's a regular ol' poopstick.
04:46.31JeffM2501odd
04:46.42JeffM2501your sdl must be wicked old
04:46.51JeffM2501== is part of std::string
04:46.57brlcadThumper_: "Can't compare a string literal with a const char* using '=='" is true in C, but in C++ depends on the == operator
04:47.08Thumper_brlcad: thx that's what I thought
04:47.09brlcadfor which std::string defines .. so the compiler may whine, but it's kosher
04:47.17Thumper_and what's there now doesn't compile in GCC 3.3.5
04:47.40JeffM2501so it dosn't follow the c++ standard
04:47.57brlcadstill often polite to encapsulate it, and there are a few cases where ambiguity requires it
04:48.33brlcadThumper_: what about in 4?
04:49.14Thumper_works fine in 4.2.1
04:49.30Thumper_just the server I'm trying to build on has 3.3.5
04:54.29brlcadwhen someone is motivated, usually the wrappers are the way to go to get things working (std::string(""))
04:56.17CIA-25BZFlag: 03bthansen * r16071 10/branches/v2_0branch/bzflag/plugins/koth/koth.cpp:
04:56.17CIA-25BZFlag: Remove string comparison and just check the team
04:56.21CIA-25BZFlag: This fixes a compile error in GCC 3.3.5 and avoids the inefficient string
04:56.23CIA-25BZFlag: comparison altogether.
04:56.32JeffM2501that == is done all over the plac
04:56.40Thumper_yes I saw that
04:56.41JeffM2501how does that not work, and others do?
04:57.03Thumper_hence my original question of this commit :)
04:57.13Thumper_except this one is != and the others are ==
04:57.23brlcadthat could be why
04:57.37JeffM2501upgrade to a non buggy compiler/lib
04:58.12Thumper_anyway it has no string compare anymore (thanks JeffM2501)
04:59.24JeffM2501can't ensure that it won't happen again
04:59.27JeffM2501upgrading is the best thing
04:59.41blast007probably already at the latest for sarge  ;)
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14:28.13ConstitutionThumper_: re: the koth plugin, there were warnings in the code about string comparisons, so it wouldnt' compile.
14:28.49Constitutionit wasn't a std::string == "string literal" comparison... it was a "string literal1" == "string literal2" comparison
14:28.59Constitutionor else !=... can't quite remember
14:29.26Constitutionwhich afaik isn't valid as far as comparing the values of the strings... it will instead compare the memory addresses.
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14:38.49Constitutionbut yeah, it only seemed to be a problem on the one system I was trying to compile on... guess y'all already figured out it was a compiler issue
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15:13.43blast007Constitution: it was coding sorta strange in the first place. there wasn't any need to do a string comparison at all :)
15:14.47Thumper_Constitution: yeah it was != ... and the new stuff didn't compile on GCC 3.3.5 - no big deal I think it's better now
15:16.20WinnyConstitution left about ~30 min ago, and he sold his macbook, so he won't have any IRC for a while (although he might log in at work...)
15:16.34Winnyjust an FYI :)
15:17.49blast007hehe
15:18.51Winny<Constitution> right now I'm on my computer at work... stopped by this morning for a few minutes to pick something up
15:18.51Winny<Constitution> but I'm using screen+irssi on daniel_jackson's server :P
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16:25.27blast007JeffM: we don't remove images from images.bzflag.org, correct?
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16:41.10donny_bakerblast007: once approved? cause I can see not allowing/removing them if they were inappropriate/copyrighted
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17:13.57Constitutionblast007 Thumper_: okay, I see
17:14.25Constitutionand yeah, it's time for a MacBook Pro. :D
17:14.30Thumper_Constitution: also I think maybe your fix on Oct 10 got the logic backwards ... not sure about that
17:14.57Thumper_anyway it's done. time to move on :)
17:15.00Constitutionbackwards?
17:15.14Constitutionswapped arguments to != ?
17:15.32Thumper_it was != and became == I think
17:15.38Constitutionoh
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17:18.04Constitutionah, true enough :\
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17:54.34CIA-25BZFlag: 03blast007 * r16072 10/trunk/web/submitimages/ (6 files in 2 dirs):
17:54.37CIA-25BZFlag: Create a utility JavaScript file.
17:54.39CIA-25BZFlag: Process the form data for the queue.
17:54.41CIA-25BZFlag: Add JavaScript validation for the queue form.
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19:36.39Thumper_Does anyone object to applying the following patch on v2_0branch? http://pastebin.ca/744750
19:37.00Thumper_brlcad ^^
19:37.09Thumper_(Jeff/Tupone/DTR are all out :/ )
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19:57.30brlcadThumper_: I don't see why not -- looks like a lot of reasonable null pointer checks that probably should have been there from the start regardless
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20:37.29Thumper_brlcad: ok thanks
20:38.32CIA-25BZFlag: 03bthansen * r16073 10/trunk/bzflag/plugins/ (6 files in 6 dirs):
20:38.34CIA-25BZFlag: Fix memory leaks and use of null pointers
20:38.36CIA-25BZFlag: Always call bz_freePlayerRecord after a bz_getPlayerByIndex.
20:38.38CIA-25BZFlag: Never use the resulting pointer without checking if it is valid first.
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20:53.13CIA-25BZFlag: 03bthansen * r16074 10/branches/v2_0branch/bzflag/plugins/ (11 files in 11 dirs):
20:53.16CIA-25BZFlag: Fix memory leaks and use of null pointers
20:53.18CIA-25BZFlag: Always call bz_freePlayerRecord after a bz_getPlayerByIndex.
20:53.20CIA-25BZFlag: Never use the resulting pointer without checking if it is valid first.
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21:01.24CIA-25BZFlag: 03bthansen * r16075 10/trunk/bzflag/plugins/logDetail/logDetail.cpp:
21:01.24CIA-25BZFlag: Fix memory leaks and use of null pointers
21:01.24CIA-25BZFlag: Always call bz_freePlayerRecord after a bz_getPlayerByIndex.
21:02.25a_meteoriteFinally.
21:02.38a_meteoriteIt always seemed like my bzfs was leaking...
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22:27.42delusionali wish you could add the angvel of a drawinfo in the group, so you could have one drawinfo moving at several different speeds.
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22:57.36a_meteoritebrlcad: ?
22:58.07brlcad17:02 < a_meteorite> It always seemed like my bzfs was leaking...
22:59.05a_meteoriteHow do I leak...?
22:59.23Winnyomg...
22:59.28brlcadwell...
22:59.54brlcadI'd presume that you're usually standing, maybe sometimes sitting
23:00.03a_meteoriteI sit at the computer
23:00.12brlcadhopefully you don't leak at the computer
23:00.15a_meteorite?
23:00.15brlcador on it for that matter
23:00.17Winnyhere we go
23:00.18Winny<Argooon> Urban Dictionary 'leak' (2 of 7): Take a piss.
23:00.19a_meteoriteHuh?
23:00.23a_meteorite...
23:00.36Winnyyou've never heard that before!?
23:00.40a_meteoriteNo?
23:00.43brlcadheh
23:00.45Winnynoone has ever said "I gotta go take a leak?"
23:00.54a_meteoriteNot around me
23:01.08brlcadi find that exceptionally hard to believe :)
23:01.21brlcadit's not even really obscure vernacular anymore
23:01.23a_meteoriteI'm "protected"
23:03.09Winnyhe has lived his life in a chroot jail.
23:03.55a_meteoriteBeing in a C++ class would be cooler, living as protected.
23:04.15a_meteoriteThen people could inherit me.
23:04.25a_meteoriteOr, er, be a "friend"
23:04.38a_meteoriteYeah, I think that's how you can access protected members.
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