| 00:04.05 | CIA-21 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r16137 10/trunk/bzflag/tools/modeltool/modeltool.cxx: middle mouse for basic pan |
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| 00:27.53 | randomparticle | hmm.. i try to 'su' into the admin account from a bash command line. no go. so i type 'bash' and try it again and it works |
| 00:28.14 | randomparticle | that is, it works from bash within bash :) |
| 00:28.25 | CIA-21 | opencombat: 03jeffm2501 * 10GPx01/GPLib/ (inc/vectorMath.h src/vectorMath.cpp): add close method, and some common math defines. |
| 00:28.36 | CIA-21 | opencombat: 03jeffm2501 * 10GPx01/GPLib/ (Makefile VC71/gpLib.vcproj inc/camera.h src/camera.cpp): add camera class |
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| 00:58.29 | Macrosoft | didnt ati release the specs on some of their gpu's a while back? |
| 01:00.11 | a_meteorite | yes, but if you are getting to open-source drivers, don't hold your breath |
| 01:00.14 | a_meteorite | there's still a ways to go |
| 01:00.28 | JeffM | it takes more then 2 weeks to write drivers |
| 01:01.18 | Macrosoft | well im not having any luck with my nvidia card, so i was hoping i would be able to try my ati |
| 01:01.58 | JeffM | ATI did release newer propritary drivers for some of the cards |
| 01:02.06 | JeffM | based of the newer catalist stuff |
| 01:02.13 | Macrosoft | how long ago? |
| 01:02.22 | JeffM | week or so IIRC |
| 01:02.25 | JeffM | what card do you have? |
| 01:02.35 | Macrosoft | x1550 |
| 01:03.02 | Macrosoft | x1550(ati) and 6200OC(nvidia) |
| 01:03.55 | JeffM | that a new chipset? |
| 01:04.04 | Macrosoft | no |
| 01:04.25 | JeffM | it's not listed under suported linux chipsets |
| 01:05.58 | JeffM | ahh it's just an X1300 core it looks like |
| 01:06.52 | JeffM | the current ATI display driver for linux was updated.. yesterday |
| 01:07.20 | Macrosoft | i guess i'll try it then |
| 01:08.05 | JeffM | the 1550 was mostly a marketing name change for the x1300 card |
| 01:08.25 | Macrosoft | bbl...shutting down |
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| 01:38.10 | blast007 | JeffM: after I rebooted the new ubuntu, I was able to change the mouse settings... just sorta a bad sign that I had to reboot for something like that |
| 01:38.24 | blast007 | all the icons from the gnome menu disappeared too |
| 01:38.30 | JeffM | nice |
| 01:38.35 | JeffM | in a VM or real machine? |
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| 01:40.25 | Djpenguin | What's the bzworkbench trunk url? |
| 01:53.15 | JeffM | dude just cus you don't have the software installed, dosn't mean the URL is wrong |
| 01:53.25 | JeffM | https://bzflag.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/bzflag/trunk/ |
| 01:54.44 | JeffM | that is the URL to all the modules we have, current versions |
| 01:54.51 | JeffM | anything else will be in a branch or a tag |
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| 02:56.20 | blast007 | JeffM: I was using a real machine with an nVidia card |
| 02:56.20 | JeffM | ahh |
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| 02:56.22 | delusional | Watch It Sucka! (Aunt Esther) |
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| 03:26.41 | Constitution | brlcad DTRemenak blast007 L4m3r: I'd like to make a custom poll handling framework. I jotted down the approach I'm planning to take, and am interested in hearing any feedback or ideas when you have a moment... http://pastebin.bzflag.bz/m7f144551 |
| 03:29.00 | L4m3r | my only thought is that perhaps more detailed info of the statistics would be nice |
| 03:29.27 | Constitution | you mean sent to the handler? or printed to the console? |
| 03:29.43 | L4m3r | for instance, a server owner may prefer an option that's the most popular, rather than a simple majority... |
| 03:29.46 | L4m3r | to the handler |
| 03:29.51 | Constitution | ah |
| 03:30.10 | Constitution | so maybe send a std::map of the responses, and how many votes for each |
| 03:30.40 | L4m3r | can't do that ;) |
| 03:31.14 | L4m3r | actually, iirc you can't use the std::vector either |
| 03:31.37 | Constitution | really? hmm |
| 03:31.55 | L4m3r | unless someone has worked some miracle to fix that idiotic Windows memory deallocation problem |
| 03:33.59 | Constitution | so maybe a char array? |
| 03:34.00 | L4m3r | (I guess if that was the case, they'd be using STL types in head) |
| 03:34.23 | L4m3r | nah, you'd just need to add an equivalent to std::map in the API |
| 03:34.32 | L4m3r | but a bzf int-list would probably do just fine |
| 03:34.37 | Constitution | oh |
| 03:36.31 | blast007 | there's a string list you can send back |
| 03:38.05 | Constitution | what about the register command? I'm more concerned about that |
| 03:39.05 | Constitution | somehow I'd want it to take an open-ended list of acceptable responses |
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| 03:39.24 | Constitution | or maybe just ditch the whole custom responses thing, and keep it a yes/no system |
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| 05:45.30 | jude- | hello all |
| 05:45.33 | jude- | long time no see |
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| 05:57.58 | L4m3r | hi jude- |
| 05:58.48 | jude- | hello L4m3r |
| 06:00.54 | blast007 | hi jude- |
| 06:00.54 | brlcad | howdy jude-, welcome back! |
| 06:00.54 | jude- | it's great to be back |
| 06:00.57 | brlcad | hope classes are going well |
| 06:01.07 | jude- | heh--they're getting heavier as the semester draws to a close |
| 06:01.28 | jude- | but manageable |
| 06:01.42 | L4m3r | I'm sure you're doing better than I am, jude- >_< |
| 06:01.54 | jude- | why do you say that? |
| 06:03.44 | jude- | is all well, L4m3r? |
| 06:04.31 | L4m3r | I suck at math >_< |
| 06:04.58 | jude- | don't feel bad...I had to audit my math class two weeks ago >.< |
| 06:05.03 | jude- | for the same reason |
| 06:06.03 | jude- | "formal mathematical reasoning by analysis, as taught by the Master of All Things Pedantic in Mathematical Literature" |
| 06:06.23 | jude- | read: hit-or-miss grading on essay-sized proofs >.< |
| 06:07.56 | jude- | (usually miss) |
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| 06:58.13 | a_temp_dist | wow http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=11658 |
| 06:59.30 | blast007 | fun |
| 07:00.48 | a_meteorite | related to pythonian? |
| 07:01.58 | blast007 | no |
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| 11:30.19 | jftsang | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:30.33 | jftsang | i installed cURL libs and h files :S |
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| 12:35.58 | spldart | and alltel |
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| 13:23.57 | Macrosoft | forum admins: http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=11659 |
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| 14:26.14 | blast007 | Macrosoft: what about it? |
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| 14:30.11 | iWinny | blast007: seems like a matter better taken up in a PM |
| 14:30.30 | iWinny | it basically sounds like a posting about a ban |
| 14:31.21 | blast007 | no, he's posting about how his map concept was created by someone, and he didn't get any credit |
| 14:32.01 | iWinny | yeah, what can the forum admins do about it? |
| 14:32.11 | iWinny | and plus, go look at the serverlist |
| 14:32.25 | iWinny | the server he is talking about isn' even sigs server |
| 14:33.01 | iWinny | its "OoO"s server |
| 14:35.22 | blast007 | iWinny: in game, it says it's sig's "server", and tanks OoO for the hosting |
| 14:35.54 | blast007 | "Some ideas by Lt-Kirby2007" |
| 14:36.22 | iWinny | which is true... |
| 14:36.43 | blast007 | and yet he's complaining about how he didn't get credit, when he just can't read |
| 14:37.23 | iWinny | anyways, this matter is better taken up privatly, anyways... there was probably never a formal liscense given out, anyways |
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| 16:38.02 | blast007 | JeffM: it all started back when he was a child... |
| 16:38.16 | JeffM | I mean last thing he wanted was to have his account deleted |
| 16:38.23 | JeffM | I disabled it and changed his e-mail address |
| 16:38.35 | JeffM | now he goes and makes a NEW one, and asks me to not have an account again |
| 16:39.23 | blast007 | heh |
| 16:42.54 | JeffM | donny_baker: you arround? |
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| 17:20.38 | JeffM | hmmm the only way I can think to "fix" his problem is to have non reged users get a temporary token, and temp name |
| 17:20.59 | JeffM | then that would block out the change on bzbb |
| 17:21.10 | JeffM | the problem is coming up with a good timeout |
| 17:21.26 | a_temp_dist | 30 seconds |
| 17:21.33 | blast007 | :) |
| 17:21.47 | JeffM | It'd be best if we had part events from the servers |
| 17:21.52 | blast007 | JeffM: why not just make it permenant for the whole session they play? |
| 17:22.08 | JeffM | blast007: we don't get notified when they leave |
| 17:22.19 | L4m3r | why not just let the server ghost bad auth, and not unregged players? |
| 17:22.30 | blast007 | does that matter? just make that one bzfs server know it's temporary, and prevent a newly registered user by that name from ghosting them |
| 17:22.45 | JeffM | L4m3r: cus that prevents ghost from kicking unreged that want to emulate a reged |
| 17:22.51 | JeffM | there is a valid use for that |
| 17:23.03 | JeffM | not all server run the mode that requires identify |
| 17:23.14 | L4m3r | but then it would be "-", not an unregged callsign |
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| 17:23.54 | JeffM | not everyone looks at the + and - |
| 17:24.06 | JeffM | ghosting was meant for somone using your name |
| 17:24.10 | L4m3r | if the callsign isn't registered at the time of the join, then don't let them ghost |
| 17:24.17 | JeffM | who's join? |
| 17:24.27 | JeffM | the kickie? |
| 17:24.32 | L4m3r | the user who would be ghosted |
| 17:24.34 | blast007 | the unregistered user's name |
| 17:24.44 | JeffM | that may be viable |
| 17:24.49 | L4m3r | er, don't let them get ghosted |
| 17:24.54 | blast007 | if they join, and the name at that point isn't registered, grant them a temporary token for one session of play |
| 17:25.06 | JeffM | we keep states for that? |
| 17:25.19 | JeffM | and can you think of any case where that would screw up? |
| 17:25.23 | blast007 | during that session, if someone registers the name, prevent that newly registered user from ghosting the unreg'ed user |
| 17:25.29 | L4m3r | ok, time for work... have fun ^_^ |
| 17:25.37 | blast007 | but allow them to play on any other servers as full reg |
| 17:25.47 | JeffM | yeah it'd be a local thing |
| 17:25.57 | JeffM | I'll look at the ghost code and see what it is |
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| 17:33.59 | JeffM | what is the perm that kicks reged nicks for non reg? |
| 17:39.02 | AAA_awright | if(joining_user=="+"){ kick_existing_user = (existing_user=="-");} |
| 17:39.19 | JeffM | huh? |
| 17:39.24 | AAA_awright | It can get so easy to over-think things sometimes |
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| 17:39.38 | JeffM | that's what it does now, and THAT is what the abbuse is |
| 17:40.03 | AAA_awright | If the existing user is nothing (or " "), kick_existing_user becomes false; |
| 17:40.38 | JeffM | yes, but what I am asking is where the code for "-" is |
| 17:40.42 | JeffM | because it's not all stringy |
| 17:41.07 | AAA_awright | Yah, you get the point though. I remember seeing it somewhere, hold on |
| 17:41.12 | AAA_awright | 2.0, that is. 2.1? |
| 17:41.20 | JeffM | .0 |
| 17:41.38 | JeffM | found it |
| 17:41.42 | AAA_awright | k |
| 17:44.22 | JeffM | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:44.22 | JeffM | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:44.22 | JeffM | sendMessage(ServerPlayer, t, "That callsign was not registered when it joined."); |
| 17:52.26 | AAA_awright | Is there any way to check if bzfs was able to connect to the list server when the user joined? |
| 17:52.33 | CIA-21 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r16138 10/branches/v2_0branch/bzflag/src/bzfs/commands.cxx: When doing a ghost, check to see if the person being ghosted WAS using a registered name when they joined, if they were not, then prevent the ghost since that user had no way of knowing the name was reged. |
| 17:53.29 | AAA_awright | I can imagine the list server going down, one player connecting, but not being authenticated, then after the list server comes up the player can't ghost. |
| 17:55.35 | JeffM | that should be a rare case |
| 17:55.38 | JeffM | it's not perfect |
| 17:55.41 | JeffM | but it's better then now |
| 17:56.58 | JeffM | I don't think ghosting is that common of an event |
| 17:58.22 | JeffM | can somone build a public server with that so we can test it? |
| 17:59.08 | Thumper_ | ok |
| 17:59.30 | ruskie | JeffM, well it does seem the issue was mesalib 7.0.1... downgraded to 7.0 and haven't seen any issues with z-buffer since |
| 17:59.49 | JeffM | oh, your rendering issues? |
| 17:59.52 | JeffM | cool |
| 18:04.32 | JeffM | if it's not good enought I'll pull it from branch |
| 18:04.40 | JeffM | but I think it should be stable enought for it |
| 18:06.49 | Thumper_ | JeffM: bzflag3.norang.ca:10001 |
| 18:07.05 | JeffM | ok, who can help me test? |
| 18:07.11 | Thumper_ | me |
| 18:07.14 | JeffM | Someone join as BobStarkiller |
| 18:07.44 | Thumper_ | got a - |
| 18:07.55 | JeffM | wow |
| 18:08.02 | JeffM | ok, pick some name that isn't reged :) |
| 18:08.07 | Thumper_ | heh |
| 18:08.29 | Thumper_ | Thumper2 |
| 18:09.54 | JeffM | one sec |
| 18:09.58 | JeffM | my second account is horked |
| 18:10.13 | JeffM | don't log out |
| 18:10.19 | Thumper_ | np |
| 18:12.45 | JeffM | hmm ghosting is only availbale if we have a local passdb |
| 18:12.49 | JeffM | that is stupid |
| 18:13.00 | Thumper_ | autoghost still works without it (for reg'ed accts) |
| 18:13.20 | JeffM | hmmm maybe it's autoghost |
| 18:13.33 | JeffM | wonder where the code for that is |
| 18:13.41 | Thumper_ | ie if you join with no password then join again with correct password first gets kicked |
| 18:15.04 | JeffM | do you know what the kick message is for that? |
| 18:16.10 | Thumper_ | bzflag/src/bzfs/bzfs.cxx:1649: "Another client has demonstrated ownership of your " |
| 18:16.13 | Thumper_ | ? |
| 18:16.44 | JeffM | ahh there it is |
| 18:16.45 | JeffM | ok |
| 18:16.47 | JeffM | lets see |
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| 18:18.17 | *** part/#bzflag randomparticle (n=randompa@about/essy/snick/randomparticle) |
| 18:18.53 | Thumper_ | JeffM: do I need to leave that client connected or can I rejoin for testing later? |
| 18:19.05 | JeffM | you can rejoin |
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| 18:19.13 | JeffM | I have to do another code change |
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| 18:20.57 | randomparticle | configure is not detecting SDL.framework under OS X 10.5 |
| 18:21.18 | randomparticle | i've narrowed the problem down |
| 18:21.22 | JeffM | clean install of 10.5 or an upgrade? |
| 18:21.28 | randomparticle | clean install |
| 18:21.35 | JeffM | did it move? |
| 18:21.38 | randomparticle | no |
| 18:21.45 | randomparticle | i looked at config.log |
| 18:21.58 | randomparticle | and took the failing compilation and simplified it to this: |
| 18:22.00 | randomparticle | $ gcc test.c -L/usr/X11/lib -framework OpenGL |
| 18:22.00 | randomparticle | ld: cycle in dylib re-exports with /usr/X11/lib/libGL.dylib |
| 18:22.01 | randomparticle | collect2: ld returned 1 exit status |
| 18:22.22 | randomparticle | it doesn't like both arguments after 'test.c' |
| 18:22.31 | randomparticle | give it one of either of these and it goes through |
| 18:22.47 | JeffM | bet they changed something yet again |
| 18:22.51 | JeffM | gotta love apple |
| 18:23.09 | randomparticle | that's the nature of new operating systems jeffm. don't change anything and it isn't new :) |
| 18:23.25 | CIA-21 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r16139 10/branches/v2_0branch/bzflag/src/bzfs/commands.cxx: enable /ghosting for public servers too. |
| 18:23.44 | JeffM | you can cange stuff, you can also ensure that old stuff works too ;) |
| 18:23.55 | Thumper_ | JeffM: servers up again |
| 18:24.19 | randomparticle | i hardly think there priority will be bzflag |
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| 18:24.36 | randomparticle | it's not realistic to expect everything will work from the off |
| 18:25.10 | randomparticle | microsoft can't manage it |
| 18:25.10 | Thumper_ | JeffM: connected and in [auto] waiting to be ghosted |
| 18:25.10 | CIA-21 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r16140 10/branches/v2_0branch/bzflag/src/bzfs/bzfs.cxx: if a verified user wants to enter and kick an unverified user, make sure the unverified user was a registered name when they joined, if not disallow the enter until that user parts. |
| 18:25.10 | JeffM | Thumper_: you need to rebuild |
| 18:25.10 | randomparticle | anyway.. back to this problem |
| 18:25.11 | randomparticle | i'm thinking there's some cross-referential tangle |
| 18:25.13 | Thumper_ | JeffM: I did after your last commit |
| 18:25.15 | Thumper_ | doing this one too |
| 18:25.21 | randomparticle | same symbol in two libraries or something |
| 18:25.23 | Thumper_ | up |
| 18:25.23 | JeffM | randomparticle: actualy with com, we keep the old interfaces to old APIs, so stuff does "just work" ;) |
| 18:25.30 | JeffM | and we don't hardcode paths to libs |
| 18:25.47 | JeffM | tho I understand the issues apple must face, using other people's code |
| 18:25.59 | randomparticle | this stuff happens on linux too |
| 18:26.05 | JeffM | that's what I mean |
| 18:26.19 | JeffM | it's all part of how the 'nix world does dynamic libs |
| 18:26.21 | randomparticle | xp is museum piece |
| 18:26.30 | JeffM | even tho I hate the com API, I see where it has power |
| 18:27.38 | randomparticle | bzflag doesn't compile at all on a standard xp system, so that's hardly an improvement, is it? |
| 18:27.47 | randomparticle | xp doesn't come with a compiler :) |
| 18:27.56 | JeffM | default OSX install dos't ether |
| 18:28.04 | JeffM | you just get the compiler from the net instead of a DVD ;) |
| 18:28.04 | randomparticle | it's on the disk |
| 18:28.12 | JeffM | that's just media |
| 18:28.14 | Thumper_ | JeffM: anytime you're ready |
| 18:28.16 | JeffM | k |
| 18:28.19 | JeffM | you on as thumper 2 |
| 18:28.25 | Thumper_ | yup |
| 18:28.36 | Thumper_ | for the last 3 mins :) |
| 18:29.02 | Thumper_ | I got booted |
| 18:29.16 | Thumper_ | rejoin get minus |
| 18:29.17 | JeffM | you sure you rebuilt with those last changes? |
| 18:29.51 | Thumper_ | yup |
| 18:30.13 | randomparticle | does the bzflag build need both "-framework OpenGL" and "-L/usr/X11/lib"? |
| 18:30.16 | JeffM | ahh is registered recheckes the database |
| 18:30.23 | JeffM | randomparticle: it dosn't need X |
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| 18:30.32 | JeffM | not on the mac |
| 18:30.41 | randomparticle | i've tried to cut out that -L bit |
| 18:30.57 | randomparticle | but it keeps appearing |
| 18:31.18 | randomparticle | i've messed about with configure and aclocal.m4 |
| 18:31.24 | randomparticle | i'm missing something |
| 18:32.20 | randomparticle | those files are automatically generated? |
| 18:32.41 | JeffM | yes |
| 18:32.50 | JeffM | by autoconf |
| 18:33.05 | randomparticle | ok. so what's the number 1 input file in the chain? |
| 18:33.20 | randomparticle | i.e., what should i be editing to get rid of the -L argument |
| 18:33.26 | Thumper_ | JeffM: servers is down waiting for the next commit |
| 18:33.32 | JeffM | yeah I have to ponder |
| 18:33.37 | JeffM | it's going to be a biger change |
| 18:33.47 | Thumper_ | ok |
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| 18:34.57 | JeffM | what is the setting that prevents users from using registered names? |
| 18:35.03 | JeffM | I need to find where we do THAT check |
| 18:35.12 | JeffM | and save off the results |
| 18:35.13 | Thumper_ | REQUIREIDENTIFY ? |
| 18:35.17 | JeffM | that's it |
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| 18:35.33 | Thumper_ | bzflag/src/bzfs/Permissions.cxx:486: if (name == "REQUIREIDENTIFY") return Play |
| 18:36.08 | Thumper_ | hmm that's not hte right line |
| 18:36.37 | JeffM | no that got me where I needed to go, thanks |
| 18:37.07 | Thumper_ | line 143/418 |
| 18:37.15 | randomparticle | after a 'make distclean' , '/usr/X11/lib' only occurs in aclocal.m4 and configure |
| 18:37.29 | randomparticle | perhaps it's constructed from parts |
| 18:37.39 | JeffM | it adds x11 if it finds it |
| 18:37.44 | JeffM | it's considered optional |
| 18:37.54 | JeffM | but it's not needed or realy used |
| 18:37.58 | randomparticle | i just want to get rid of that. any ideas, please? |
| 18:38.11 | JeffM | remove or rename your x11 libs |
| 18:38.15 | JeffM | so they arn't found |
| 18:38.17 | randomparticle | that's a bit bizarre |
| 18:38.26 | JeffM | it's cus the makefile is shared by nix too |
| 18:38.30 | randomparticle | what if something else needs them? |
| 18:38.31 | JeffM | it realy needs apple specific code in there |
| 18:38.40 | JeffM | nothing needs them |
| 18:38.47 | JeffM | x11 isn't installed by default with OSX |
| 18:38.53 | randomparticle | it's installed here |
| 18:38.56 | JeffM | it's installed by the dev tools |
| 18:39.06 | JeffM | so you DON'T want to link to it |
| 18:39.15 | JeffM | or people who use your bins will need X11 too |
| 18:39.23 | JeffM | this is a known problem in the makefile |
| 18:39.24 | randomparticle | can't we just edit a bzflag file to get rid of that -L argument? |
| 18:39.53 | JeffM | yes, you can add apple specific code to change the auto make and autoconf scripts so they don't do that |
| 18:39.55 | randomparticle | i don't fancy trashing my x11 system just to get bzflag to compile |
| 18:40.12 | JeffM | then you fix the build system |
| 18:40.20 | randomparticle | right, that's what i've been asking all along |
| 18:40.22 | JeffM | on 10.4 it will build wiht X |
| 18:40.41 | JeffM | if we knew how to fix the makefile we would have |
| 18:40.42 | randomparticle | i'd like to know which file to edit |
| 18:40.48 | randomparticle | oh.. |
| 18:40.50 | JeffM | you'll have to research it |
| 18:41.26 | randomparticle | Makefile.in is it? |
| 18:41.30 | JeffM | .am |
| 18:41.33 | randomparticle | ok |
| 18:41.42 | JeffM | you should look at a clean SVN check out |
| 18:41.54 | Thumper_ | there are a bunch of x related option on configure |
| 18:42.07 | JeffM | those will be the files that are shiped that tell autotools now to make the build files |
| 18:42.24 | randomparticle | it's a clean SVN branch 2.0 checkout |
| 18:43.15 | JeffM | but you've run autogen |
| 18:43.19 | JeffM | right? |
| 18:43.22 | randomparticle | yeah |
| 18:43.30 | JeffM | that generated files |
| 18:43.44 | JeffM | of the make and config type |
| 18:43.49 | randomparticle | yep |
| 18:44.15 | JeffM | so to see what they are built from, it's simplest to get a clean dir, BEFORE you run it |
| 18:44.20 | JeffM | but I belive they all end in am or ac |
| 18:45.09 | randomparticle | hmm.. this is going a bit slowly. let me ask this one: |
| 18:45.09 | CIA-21 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r16141 10/branches/v2_0branch/bzflag/src/bzfs/ (Permissions.cxx Permissions.h bzfs.cxx commands.cxx): store off the registration state when the player is added, use that for ghost checks, not the current isRegistered() because that checks the database. |
| 18:45.34 | randomparticle | if i wanted to add a new framework say to gcc arg list, which file would i edit? |
| 18:45.39 | JeffM | Thumper_: lets try that |
| 18:45.44 | JeffM | randomparticle: I don't know |
| 18:45.57 | JeffM | that's prety much brlcad land |
| 18:46.04 | randomparticle | ok |
| 18:46.14 | Thumper_ | JeffM: it's up |
| 18:46.27 | JeffM | ok, you in as thumper2? |
| 18:46.32 | Thumper_ | yes |
| 18:46.55 | JeffM | whoot |
| 18:46.58 | Thumper_ | see your connect |
| 18:47.01 | Thumper_ | i'm still there |
| 18:47.03 | JeffM | cool |
| 18:47.05 | JeffM | I got booted |
| 18:47.11 | Thumper_ | now to try with a - ? |
| 18:47.17 | JeffM | k |
| 18:47.19 | JeffM | log out and in |
| 18:47.43 | JeffM | yeah booted you |
| 18:47.43 | JeffM | good |
| 18:47.43 | Thumper_ | that was fast |
| 18:47.50 | Thumper_ | one more time |
| 18:47.54 | randomparticle | ok. i found a simpler way. i just run './configure --x-libraries=/dev/null' |
| 18:47.59 | Thumper_ | I'm actually playing now |
| 18:48.01 | Thumper_ | nwith - |
| 18:48.22 | Thumper_ | thx |
| 18:48.27 | Thumper_ | looks like it works |
| 18:48.37 | JeffM | cool |
| 18:49.15 | Thumper_ | JeffM: we done? |
| 18:49.39 | JeffM | yeah thanks |
| 18:49.43 | Thumper_ | ok |
| 18:50.49 | JeffM | gotta do it in trunk now |
| 18:50.57 | Thumper_ | heh |
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| 18:56.17 | randomparticle | MacWindow.cxx isn't need for an SDL compile? |
| 18:57.06 | randomparticle | configure said 'SDL' and yet i'm getting that same error i got when trying to compile without SDL |
| 19:00.25 | JeffM | no, the native mac stuff dosn't need SDL |
| 19:00.32 | JeffM | as I said yesterday, SDL is optional |
| 19:00.40 | JeffM | SDL has it's own "platform" |
| 19:00.41 | randomparticle | that's not what i asked |
| 19:01.01 | JeffM | when you build with SDL, it uses the SDLWIndow, etc.. insted of the native one |
| 19:01.18 | randomparticle | ok. so it says "SDL" and yet it tries to compile "MacWindow.cxx" |
| 19:01.39 | JeffM | I belive that right there is the core of your problem |
| 19:01.46 | JeffM | but to fix it you'll need to work with brlcad |
| 19:01.57 | randomparticle | if i look on my Tiger system i can see MacWindow.o for a version of bzflag i've never compiled without SDL |
| 19:01.58 | JeffM | as he is one of the few who understands the mac build system |
| 19:02.14 | rob1n | ~seen bryjen |
| 19:02.16 | ibot | bryjen <n=bryjen@2002:4cb1:bee3:0:0:0:0:1> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 1d 14h 32m 25s ago, saying: 'char d_name[256];'. |
| 19:02.18 | JeffM | it may compile it, but I don't belive it is used |
| 19:02.36 | rob1n | ~seen shorty114 |
| 19:02.37 | ibot | shorty114 <n=shorty11@unaffiliated/shorty114> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 217d 22h 10m 22s ago, saying: 'whoa almost 3 years'. |
| 19:02.41 | randomparticle | i'll just edit it for now to get rid of the syntax error |
| 19:02.44 | JeffM | I'm going on stuff at the edge of my knowledge |
| 19:03.25 | CIA-21 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r16142 10/branches/v2_0branch/bzflag/src/bzfs/ (Permissions.cxx bzfsAPI.cxx): make the all group work properly for custom perms. |
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| 19:03.58 | CIA-21 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r16143 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzfs/ (Permissions.cxx Permissions.h bzfs.cxx commands.cxx): |
| 19:03.58 | CIA-21 | BZFlag: make "ALL" metaperm work for custom perms. |
| 19:03.58 | CIA-21 | BZFlag: only ghost users who were reged when they joined. |
| 19:07.21 | randomparticle | Roster.h:41: error: ‘MAX_ROBOTS’ was not declared in this scope |
| 19:08.06 | randomparticle | i had '--disable-robots' as a configure argument |
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| 19:27.45 | Djpenguin | trying to run a server? |
| 19:28.01 | blast007 | Djpenguin: no, he's building bzflag |
| 19:28.28 | Djpenguin | Ohh, I thot it was -disableBots |
| 19:29.00 | blast007 | he's not running a server |
| 19:29.26 | blast007 | he's trying to disable bots from his build of bzflag |
| 19:30.53 | JeffM | well he's just trying to GET it to build |
| 19:31.06 | JeffM | I don't think disable bots works correctly in the build |
| 19:31.10 | JeffM | so he probably should turn it on |
| 19:31.20 | JeffM | the presense of them will not affect the problem he's having I feel |
| 19:32.20 | JeffM | it just looks like stuff will have to be changed for 10.5 |
| 19:32.33 | JeffM | and brlcad will have to install it and we'll see what changes need to be made |
| 19:33.03 | randomparticle | back. it builds fine with './configure --x-libraries=/dev/null' |
| 19:33.10 | JeffM | cool |
| 19:33.21 | JeffM | with or without SDL? |
| 19:33.27 | randomparticle | seems to run ok with an old SDL framework built on Tiger. too early to be sure though |
| 19:33.50 | randomparticle | with an SDL framework compiled under Leopard, i get that bell sound when pressing ESC, F1, etc |
| 19:34.13 | randomparticle | i think it's a bell sound. it's the noise you get when a dialog won't accept anymore input, whatever sound that is |
| 19:35.03 | JeffM | old SDL 1.2 or 1.3 svn? |
| 19:35.11 | randomparticle | 1.2 |
| 19:35.27 | randomparticle | the 1.3 svn is a mess |
| 19:35.52 | randomparticle | missing files, compilation errors etc. to be fair, it does warn it may not build on the webpage |
| 19:36.24 | randomparticle | that noise i get has a name :) |
| 19:36.26 | JeffM | I'm guessing then that SDL will need patches for 10.3 |
| 19:36.37 | JeffM | 10.5 I mean |
| 19:36.41 | randomparticle | if you go to the sound prefs and sound effects you can find it. it's called "funk" |
| 19:37.08 | randomparticle | yes, quite likely i imagine |
| 19:38.11 | randomparticle | there might be a later 1.2 that's more reliable. i have 1.2.12 |
| 19:39.16 | JeffM | brlcad: 10.5 build issues |
| 19:39.34 | brlcad | and even after reading the log, still don't "get" the issue |
| 19:40.06 | JeffM | he has a clean 10.5 install, with dev tools |
| 19:40.09 | brlcad | using branch or head? they're a bit different |
| 19:40.14 | JeffM | clean branch svn check out |
| 19:40.21 | randomparticle | ok. svn 2.0.10rc3 will build if i add '--x-libraries=/dev/null' |
| 19:40.32 | JeffM | it won't configure as it tries to link in x11 |
| 19:40.38 | brlcad | what was the error if you didn't change the --x-libraries ? |
| 19:40.48 | randomparticle | i also made two changes to MacWindow.cxx, which shouldn't be needed for an SDL build, but is built anyway |
| 19:41.13 | randomparticle | those changes are from 'long' to 'GLint' |
| 19:41.29 | randomparticle | without that configure argument, SDL is not detected |
| 19:41.41 | randomparticle | the compilation of conftest.c fails at the linking stage |
| 19:42.26 | randomparticle | it doesn't like both '-L/usr/X11/lib' and '-framework OpenGL' together |
| 19:43.09 | brlcad | what was the error |
| 19:43.38 | randomparticle | ld: cycle in dylib re-exports with /usr/X11/lib/libGL.dylib |
| 19:44.45 | randomparticle | compile with either one of those arguments alone and it goes through ok |
| 19:45.28 | brlcad | the -L/usr/X11/lib is coming from something else/new |
| 19:46.37 | randomparticle | i couldn't figure out what produces that so i just added the '--x-libraries=/dev/null' bit. |
| 19:46.48 | brlcad | i got that much |
| 19:47.02 | brlcad | would be useful to know where it actually comes from |
| 19:47.04 | randomparticle | k :) not sure if i'm writing clearly here |
| 19:47.24 | brlcad | you've only said it three times, twas pretty clear :P |
| 19:47.41 | randomparticle | i can easily say the wrong thing 3 times running :) |
| 19:48.08 | brlcad | still, if you can figure out the cause, then it could be taken care of better |
| 19:48.12 | brlcad | i.e. by default |
| 19:48.28 | randomparticle | something else under OS 10.5: automake is version 1.10 |
| 19:48.45 | brlcad | what about it? |
| 19:48.49 | randomparticle | whereas under OS X 10.4 it was 1.60 |
| 19:48.56 | brlcad | no it wasn't |
| 19:49.04 | randomparticle | it was on my system :) |
| 19:49.06 | brlcad | 1.6.3 |
| 19:49.44 | brlcad | you might have had 1.6.0, but doubtful.. |
| 19:49.49 | brlcad | unless you had fink/ports |
| 19:49.57 | JeffM | fink is evil |
| 19:50.27 | brlcad | they actually upgraded the autotools due to a bug report I put in |
| 19:50.36 | brlcad | there was a long thread on the apple dev mailing list about it |
| 19:50.56 | rob1n | tiger has automake 1.6.3 |
| 19:51.03 | randomparticle | ok. i just saw this: |
| 19:51.07 | brlcad | the autotools were actually a part of the base OS instead of the dev tools, so they couldn't update the autotools |
| 19:51.14 | randomparticle | $ ls /Volumes/Tiger/usr/bin/automake* |
| 19:51.16 | brlcad | now they should be separated |
| 19:51.32 | randomparticle | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:51.36 | brlcad | randomparticle: a little more reliable to get the version with: automake --version |
| 19:51.39 | randomparticle | ok |
| 19:51.40 | brlcad | that's still not 1.60 :) |
| 19:51.55 | randomparticle | fair enough. i jumped to a silly conclusion :) |
| 19:52.08 | brlcad | 6 == 60 is a silly conclusion indeed |
| 19:52.40 | randomparticle | but there's no automake-1.6 in /usr/bin for my Leopard install |
| 19:52.50 | brlcad | you're probably confusing it with autoconf, 2.59 |
| 19:53.31 | randomparticle | under OS X 10.5: |
| 19:53.33 | randomparticle | $ automake --version |
| 19:53.33 | randomparticle | automake (GNU automake) 1.10 |
| 19:53.42 | brlcad | to be expected |
| 19:53.49 | brlcad | all the autotools should be updated now |
| 19:54.03 | brlcad | they couldn't update it before 10.5 for the aforementioned reason |
| 19:54.11 | brlcad | so it got 3 years out of date |
| 19:54.22 | brlcad | should also have fixed the annoying libtoolize problem |
| 19:54.30 | randomparticle | is 1.10 better? |
| 19:54.54 | randomparticle | i'm a bit confused now |
| 19:55.00 | brlcad | as better as three years of active development can make it |
| 19:55.02 | rob1n | 1.10 is later than 1.6 |
| 19:55.05 | brlcad | so yeah.. considerably |
| 19:55.32 | brlcad | yeah, you seem to be rather confused by the number versioning |
| 19:55.34 | randomparticle | ok. hmm.. i wonder if the detection script for bzflag 2.0.8 is botched |
| 19:55.42 | randomparticle | because it complains the version number isn't high enough |
| 19:55.59 | brlcad | that second number is an incremented number .. 6 < 10 .. 1.6 < 1.10 |
| 19:56.16 | brlcad | you mean autogen.sh? |
| 19:56.19 | randomparticle | yeah |
| 19:56.24 | randomparticle | i can check. one moment |
| 19:56.35 | brlcad | it shouldn't |
| 19:56.38 | JeffM | 1.10 != 1.1.0 |
| 19:56.41 | brlcad | that bug was fixed many many many months ago |
| 19:56.56 | JeffM | brlcad: he may be using stock .8 |
| 19:57.05 | randomparticle | that's correct, jeffm |
| 19:57.06 | brlcad | ah |
| 19:57.12 | JeffM | so he probably has that bug |
| 19:57.15 | brlcad | yeah, was busted in the last release |
| 19:57.15 | JeffM | randomparticle: .8 is old |
| 19:57.18 | brlcad | that was over a year ago |
| 19:57.21 | JeffM | use branch svn |
| 19:57.21 | randomparticle | ok |
| 19:57.24 | JeffM | or .10rc |
| 19:57.33 | randomparticle | i tend to use it at times because it's a known reference point |
| 19:57.47 | brlcad | you'll still see the platform issue -- what was the compile error there? |
| 19:57.52 | AAA_awright | http://www.bzflag.org/ isn't showing any content |
| 19:58.05 | AAA_awright | 'we... |
| 19:58.13 | AAA_awright | Um. That was odd. |
| 19:58.15 | brlcad | libPlatform presently just compiles both mac and sdl platforms even when sdl is enabled |
| 19:58.23 | JeffM | AAA_awright: that's on SF |
| 19:58.26 | JeffM | they do stuff some times |
| 19:58.36 | randomparticle | i see |
| 19:58.47 | brlcad | usually catching sf.net restarting apache |
| 19:59.10 | AAA_awright | Every other refresh shows the website or nothing... |
| 19:59.17 | brlcad | randomparticle: it still shouldn't have errored -- maybe a warning, in fact several warnings, but not an error |
| 19:59.36 | randomparticle | it's a type or type conversion error |
| 19:59.44 | randomparticle | definitely error, not warning |
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| 20:00.00 | brlcad | "what was the compile error there?" |
| 20:00.12 | brlcad | not your verbage of it.. the actual error |
| 20:00.14 | randomparticle | i don't have it logged |
| 20:00.19 | brlcad | bah :) |
| 20:00.30 | randomparticle | just a sec. i'll revert it and recompile |
| 20:01.09 | randomparticle | MacWindow.cxx: In member function 'bool GLContext::Init(u_int32_t, const CGRect&)': |
| 20:01.09 | randomparticle | MacWindow.cxx:109: error: invalid conversion from 'long int*' to 'GLint*' |
| 20:01.09 | randomparticle | MacWindow.cxx: In member function 'void GLContext::SetVBLSynch(bool)': |
| 20:01.09 | randomparticle | MacWindow.cxx:189: error: invalid conversion from 'long int*' to 'const GLint*' |
| 20:02.59 | CIA-21 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * r16144 10/branches/v2_0branch/bzflag/src/platform/MacOSX/MacWindow.cxx: quell 10.5 errors, CG interfaces taking GLint pointers |
| 20:04.33 | CIA-21 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * r16145 10/trunk/bzflag/src/platform/MacOSX/MacWindow.cxx: same fix for 10.5, need GLint for a couple CG calls |
| 20:04.51 | brlcad | yeah, that was the same "patch" |
| 20:05.42 | brlcad | they apparently changed the size of GLint's or of the CG interface |
| 20:06.03 | JeffM | think they 64ed em? |
| 20:06.05 | randomparticle | i see |
| 20:08.14 | brlcad | probably |
| 20:10.10 | randomparticle | i'll look into the SDL problem next. it's not satisfactory to have to use a Tiger build of it |
| 20:10.11 | ruskie | hmm been noticing somethig interesting with .10... at times my tank(and only my tank) will freeze for a few seconds(2-3) |
| 20:10.35 | ruskie | no lag, hdd activity or anything like that on the local box and every other tank is still moving fine |
| 20:10.39 | brlcad | randomparticle: what do you mean? |
| 20:10.43 | brlcad | which/what SDL problem? |
| 20:10.55 | randomparticle | the same SDL framework code built under Tiger and Leopard produces different results |
| 20:11.06 | JeffM | brlcad: SDL built under 10.5 has a keyboard issue |
| 20:11.14 | JeffM | where it dosn't get the keypresses for the F keys |
| 20:11.26 | brlcad | ah, recompiling won't necessarily fix that .. maybe |
| 20:11.35 | brlcad | could just as likely be an SDL issue |
| 20:11.38 | randomparticle | well, it gets them but produces that 'funk' sound |
| 20:11.40 | JeffM | it is |
| 20:11.56 | JeffM | randomparticle: that's the OS making the sound most likely, not SDL |
| 20:12.02 | randomparticle | and sometimes bzflag freezes - i think it's not accepting any more keybaord input |
| 20:12.03 | JeffM | something isn't handling a message right |
| 20:12.18 | JeffM | ruskie: under gutsy? |
| 20:12.27 | ruskie | no |
| 20:12.28 | brlcad | bzflag freezing isn't necessarily related |
| 20:12.38 | ruskie | it's not the client that freezes |
| 20:12.42 | ruskie | only the tank |
| 20:13.47 | randomparticle | i'll play with the bzflag/SDL combo that seems to work for an hour or two |
| 20:13.58 | randomparticle | i haven't tested it enough yet |
| 20:14.18 | ruskie | JeffM, the box is an xp1900+, 2.6.19.2 kernel, mesalib 7.0 |
| 20:14.29 | JeffM | what distro? |
| 20:14.32 | ruskie | source mage |
| 20:14.39 | JeffM | dunno |
| 20:14.44 | ruskie | and I'm not the only one that hit this issue... another viper cop got it as well |
| 20:14.47 | ruskie | no clue what he runs |
| 20:14.47 | JeffM | I've heard of similar issues from ubuntu users |
| 20:14.51 | brlcad | randomparticle: there's at least one bug in bz that causes hard lockups that's been in there for years |
| 20:14.54 | brlcad | related to lighting |
| 20:14.56 | brlcad | turn lighting off |
| 20:15.11 | randomparticle | ok |
| 20:15.11 | brlcad | borked opengl state making bad things happen |
| 20:15.30 | randomparticle | it's not actually locking up with the Tiger SDL framework yet, though |
| 20:15.35 | ruskie | hmm I noticed that bzflag doesn't do hard lockups if I disable HW T&L |
| 20:16.02 | JeffM | that would be state stuff ;) |
| 20:16.12 | ruskie | well it helps anyway :) |
| 20:16.27 | JeffM | software states are usualy a lot more flexable to state problems then hardware ones. |
| 20:16.27 | ruskie | and no reduced performance that I could notice |
| 20:16.39 | brlcad | randomparticle: did the universal configure flag work? |
| 20:16.41 | DTRemenak | JeffM: hmm....changing behavior that's been consistent for 3+ years, in branch, right before a release? |
| 20:16.55 | JeffM | DTRemenak: yes, there is an exploit |
| 20:17.10 | JeffM | hence why I said I'd pull it if it wasn't tested enough |
| 20:17.13 | randomparticle | brlcad: i haven't tried that yet. for speed i only compiled for intel |
| 20:17.21 | DTRemenak | that's a far stronger term than I would have used |
| 20:17.32 | DTRemenak | if you don't want to be ghosted by a registered player, register |
| 20:17.38 | JeffM | indeed |
| 20:17.43 | DTRemenak | we've known that was possible for a LONG time |
| 20:17.49 | JeffM | that has been said, but this started out like a small change |
| 20:17.55 | JeffM | so we'll see |
| 20:18.08 | JeffM | if there is posibility of instability it will be the first to get yanked |
| 20:18.24 | brlcad | now someone registering accounts just for the purpose of kicking players is abuse in itself, probably grounds for account suspensions |
| 20:18.28 | DTRemenak | it's still a significant behavior change to a pretty well-established section of code |
| 20:18.38 | JeffM | brlcad: they don't have to regiter accounts |
| 20:18.42 | JeffM | just do a name change on bzbb ;) |
| 20:18.54 | brlcad | well, or that -- same effect |
| 20:18.54 | JeffM | DTRemenak: indeed, you want to pull it? |
| 20:19.06 | brlcad | folks doing that just for the purpose of going after unreg'd |
| 20:19.13 | JeffM | I'm not going to fight hard at all for that code in branch |
| 20:19.34 | DTRemenak | if consensus is to leave it, that's ok, I won't fight it...but I'd be a lot more comfortable with that kind of change in trunk. |
| 20:19.48 | JeffM | yoink it is |
| 20:19.49 | brlcad | I'd be more comfortable with it off the branch |
| 20:20.14 | JeffM | now lets see if I can rever it with out borkage :) |
| 20:20.40 | brlcad | i was thinking about some of the impact for a while, "should" be fine, but not likely something that'd get tested well enough before release |
| 20:21.34 | JeffM | bu8ilding the yoink now |
| 20:23.07 | JeffM | tho your going to get some warning quells in the commit :) |
| 20:23.49 | DTRemenak | don't mind those so much :) |
| 20:23.56 | CIA-21 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r16146 10/branches/v2_0branch/bzflag/src/bzfs/ (Permissions.cxx Permissions.h bzfs.cxx commands.cxx): |
| 20:23.56 | CIA-21 | BZFlag: put the ghosting change back. |
| 20:23.56 | CIA-21 | BZFlag: quell some float cast warnings. |
| 20:23.59 | JeffM | there ya go |
| 20:24.07 | DTRemenak | 'specially if they're the same as the ones that've been in trunk for two years :) |
| 20:24.13 | JeffM | just float casts |
| 20:24.18 | JeffM | I think those are "safe" |
| 20:24.37 | DTRemenak | yeah, just telling the compiler it's ok to do what it was gonna do anyway |
| 20:25.05 | JeffM | well, it can possibly change percision, depenting where you do the cast |
| 20:25.21 | JeffM | if you cast before a math operatior it'd do it as a float op, instead of a double then cast the result to a float |
| 20:25.34 | JeffM | but I don't think we are tied that close to the float tolerances |
| 20:25.42 | DTRemenak | hopefully not |
| 20:26.05 | DTRemenak | brlcad: autotools bug maybe? :) |
| 20:26.05 | JeffM | (float)(a/b) may not == (float)a/(float)b; |
| 20:26.19 | brlcad | DTRemenak: nah, it's something you can turn on/off |
| 20:26.25 | DTRemenak | ah |
| 20:26.52 | brlcad | it's either enable_dependency_tracking or enable_maintainer_mode if I had to guess |
| 20:26.56 | brlcad | forget which does what |
| 20:27.42 | brlcad | i know i even added that to configure.ac, but i forget now .. hrm |
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| 20:30.37 | brlcad | buddy of mine just got the death star |
| 20:30.51 | brlcad | we were working on that for about 5 hours on friday |
| 20:31.00 | JeffM | hah |
| 20:31.11 | JeffM | the falcon looks cool too |
| 20:31.16 | brlcad | yeah |
| 20:31.54 | JeffM | these are ones I made up |
| 20:32.06 | JeffM | kinda how I wanted the space fighter from my book to look |
| 20:32.13 | JeffM | need to come up with a name to use in the book |
| 20:32.18 | JeffM | http://www.opencombat.net/files/images/lego/ |
| 20:32.35 | JeffM | needless to say the camera in my phone sucks ;) |
| 20:32.36 | Legoguy | neato |
| 20:35.25 | brlcad | nice |
| 20:35.46 | JeffM | in the book I have them named "Dash" fighters, but that just feels lame to me |
| 20:36.26 | brlcad | book? |
| 20:36.36 | JeffM | I'm writing a book |
| 20:37.00 | brlcad | that relates to lego ship models? |
| 20:37.16 | JeffM | it's a scifi book |
| 20:37.26 | ruskie | fun |
| 20:37.28 | JeffM | and the characters are in the navy |
| 20:37.32 | JeffM | part of a fighter wing |
| 20:37.48 | JeffM | so I built the ships out of lego to try to visualse them as I saw them in my head |
| 20:37.55 | CIA-21 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * r16147 10/branches/v2_0branch/bzflag/src/platform/Makefile.am: use the SDLPlatformFactory for SDL mac builds now |
| 20:38.07 | JeffM | for the book I need some name for them |
| 20:38.12 | JeffM | and I figured if I built them |
| 20:38.22 | JeffM | then I could think of a name maybe after seeing them |
| 20:38.31 | JeffM | and those are 2 attempts at them |
| 20:39.14 | CIA-21 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * r16148 10/branches/v2_0branch/bzflag/src/platform/MacOSX/MacDataPath.cxx: break out GetMacOSXDataPath() so it's not tied specifically to the MacMedia platform interface (need it for the SDL interface too) |
| 20:39.16 | Epyon | Venom :P |
| 20:39.18 | JeffM | toys as tools kinda thing :) |
| 20:39.32 | brlcad | ship-A |
| 20:39.34 | brlcad | ship-B |
| 20:39.39 | JeffM | heh |
| 20:39.46 | JeffM | there is only one fighter in the story |
| 20:39.51 | JeffM | one type of fighter that is |
| 20:40.01 | brlcad | warfighter! |
| 20:40.02 | JeffM | I just built a pair of variations |
| 20:40.39 | brlcad | aurora class |
| 20:40.43 | ruskie | nice ships |
| 20:41.05 | ruskie | to bad I don't have any of my designs around anymore... |
| 20:41.49 | CIA-21 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * r16149 10/branches/v2_0branch/bzflag/src/platform/MacOSX/ (MacMedia.cxx MacMedia.h Makefile.am): add MacDataPath to the build, move GetMacOSXDataPath() into it, and only build the Mac platform files if SDL is not enabled. |
| 20:54.15 | spldart | man... this is rediculous... Nvidia's drivers are getting as buggy as ATI's used to be >:-< At least in windows |
| 20:54.23 | spldart | rebooty time |
| 20:55.30 | a_temp_dist | will there ever be the option to disable player scores in CTF games? |
| 20:56.35 | JeffM | anything is possible |
| 20:57.11 | CIA-21 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * r16150 10/trunk/bzflag/src/platform/MacOSX/ (5 files): merge changes from v2_0branch, break out GetMacOSXDataPath() into its own file, build fewer files if we're SDL build |
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| 21:04.30 | CIA-21 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * r16151 10/trunk/bzflag/src/platform/ (5 files): merge from branch v2_0branch r15100 to head, picking up sdl platform change for mac and setting the data dir better for mac sdl build |
| 21:05.05 | brlcad | hm, should WinWindow.cxx be doing the same mouseGrab as branch? |
| 21:05.21 | brlcad | i.e. which is right? |
| 21:05.22 | JeffM | I belive DTRemenak backported it, so yes |
| 21:05.55 | brlcad | they were different, branch had a few linesw added |
| 21:06.03 | brlcad | + if (mouseGrab) |
| 21:06.04 | brlcad | + grabMouse(); |
| 21:06.16 | JeffM | branch has been worked on more receently |
| 21:06.16 | brlcad | and an ungrab elsewhere |
| 21:06.19 | DTRemenak | or trunk had a few lines removed |
| 21:06.19 | brlcad | k |
| 21:06.43 | brlcad | that's what I was wondering, if trunk intentionally had them removed -- wasn't obvious in the log |
| 21:06.53 | DTRemenak | iirc they both work correctly |
| 21:07.04 | brlcad | okie dokie |
| 21:08.01 | DTRemenak | trunk has additional changes that branch does not, for fixing a few leftover issues. since those changes affected other platforms I didn't backport them. |
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| 21:08.21 | brlcad | i didn't merge that way, so no probls there |
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| 21:23.35 | spldart | hrm |
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| 21:33.25 | winnyipod | can you hear me? |
| 21:36.12 | spldart | No |
| 21:37.24 | rob1n | sorry, what? |
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| 22:02.21 | wanda | i get a compile error with latest 2.1 from svn .. pse see http://bzflag.pastebin.ca/753015 .. maybe brlcad s latest commit broke my build |
| 22:08.16 | brlcad | yep |
| 22:13.56 | wanda | is it correct to use: |
| 22:14.02 | wanda | --- SDLMedia.cxx (revision 16151) |
| 22:14.04 | wanda | +++ SDLMedia.cxx (working copy) |
| 22:14.06 | wanda | @@ -69,7 +69,8 @@ |
| 22:14.08 | wanda | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:14.10 | wanda | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:14.12 | wanda | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:14.14 | wanda | - mediaDir = mdir; |
| 22:14.16 | wanda | + setMediaDirectory(mdir); |
| 22:14.18 | wanda | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:14.21 | ruskie | alert alert alert |
| 22:14.33 | ruskie | ~pastebin |
| 22:14.34 | ibot | i guess pastebin is a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.ca, or http://channels.debian.net/paste, or http://rafb.net/paste/, or http://pastebin.com is usually painfully too slow and unresponsive to use, use one of the other pastebin sites, or dpaste.com is a very nice pastebin as well |
| 22:15.25 | wanda | sry ruskie ... i thought 10 short lines would be ok here |
| 22:15.54 | ruskie | I'd say 3 lines would work anything more pastebin it ;) |
| 22:16.05 | gsnedders | I'd say 1 line :P |
| 22:16.20 | wanda | ack.. will do better next time |
| 22:16.28 | ruskie | gsnedders, non-IRC user :) |
| 22:16.56 | ruskie | gsnedders, when do you plan on coming around to play some? |
| 22:16.59 | gsnedders | but there again, I'm just an annoying brute |
| 22:17.04 | gsnedders | ruskie: when I can without BZ crashing |
| 22:18.33 | gsnedders | ruskie: regardless, I've been busy with school, HTML WG, and draft-sneddon-http-parsing |
| 22:19.29 | ruskie | does everyone have his own net draft now? |
| 22:19.55 | ruskie | well off to bed... |
| 22:19.56 | ruskie | have fun... |
| 22:19.57 | gsnedders | heh. it's something I'd spent a lot of time reverse engineering and I thought I had a clue about it |
| 22:20.08 | gsnedders | having worked on it for a bit, I don't |
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| 22:26.25 | brlcad | the passive rule has been about 5 lines |
| 22:30.30 | CIA-21 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * r16152 10/trunk/bzflag/include/BzfMedia.h: merge updates from branch, need protected mediaDir instead of private and virtual setMediaDirectory |
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| 22:32.56 | gsnedders | "Exception raised during posting of notification. Ignored. exception: *** -[NSLayoutManager glyphRangeForTextContainer:]: given container does not appear in the list of containers for this NSLayoutManager." |
| 22:34.06 | brlcad | on head? |
| 22:34.32 | gsnedders | no, 2.0 branch |
| 22:35.57 | brlcad | odd |
| 22:36.14 | brlcad | sound like something in the SDL layer |
| 22:36.28 | gsnedders | I've tried reinstalling SDL already, to no avail |
| 22:36.47 | brlcad | not that, I mean the SDLMain.m |
| 22:36.53 | gsnedders | ah |
| 22:37.02 | brlcad | try their latest |
| 22:37.07 | gsnedders | (it then segfaults) |
| 22:37.13 | brlcad | though you may have to tweak the build |
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