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| 01:42.50 | Winny | ~blast007++ |
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| 01:57.16 | Tedius | capping for the team is bragging about something stupid he did on the forums |
| 01:57.47 | sigonasr2 | What is a server binary? |
| 01:57.49 | a_meteorite | Tedius: he's diing for the team |
| 01:57.50 | whodaman- | Tedius, he's been masterbanned, no? |
| 01:58.00 | a_meteorite | and, yeah, diing has been masterbanned before |
| 02:06.16 | donny_baker | yep, he has been being stupid for a couple of days, almost like he wants to be irritating :P |
| 02:07.22 | a_meteorite | he said on bloodbath "waits for the mods to go check the forums" |
| 02:07.52 | a_meteorite | "lol i just pissed the mods off majorly on the forums i think" |
| 02:08.15 | a_meteorite | "starts a countdown to my ban from forums hehe" |
| 02:08.18 | a_meteorite | so he knows what he's doing |
| 02:08.47 | donny_baker | ok... then his wish shall be granted... he is close IMHO |
| 02:09.20 | donny_baker | quite bold for someone who has been masterbanned already, doesn't he have something better to do? |
| 02:10.13 | donny_baker | not that he is doing anything majorly wrong... just useless posting |
| 02:10.17 | a_meteorite | probably not, one of those 10 year olds looking for attention |
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| 02:18.10 | Tedius | he doesn't strike me as a 10 year old though |
| 02:18.24 | a_meteorite | alright, so he's an immature kid |
| 02:18.24 | Tedius | more like a 17 year old acting like a 9 year old |
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| 13:38.17 | mrshlee | Does anyone know if the BZFlag licence would enable an official port to a console platform? eg Wii? |
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| 13:46.01 | evanejk | hi |
| 13:46.19 | whodaman- | hi evanejk |
| 13:46.24 | evanejk | any1 there? |
| 13:46.27 | evanejk | oh |
| 13:46.28 | evanejk | hi |
| 13:46.50 | evanejk | on the fourms the chat doesn't work |
| 13:47.36 | evanejk | u know what happend to that abilities server? |
| 13:49.18 | whodaman- | you mean the link to IRC? |
| 13:49.33 | whodaman- | http://my.bzflag.org/irc/?Nickname=whodaman?&interface=nonjs , that? |
| 13:50.41 | evanejk | ya that doesn't work for me |
| 13:51.16 | evanejk | An error occurred: Connection to unix-domain socket(/tmp/cgiirc-86qwimvi/sock): No such file or directory |
| 13:51.21 | evanejk | it says |
| 13:52.09 | whodaman- | I think that it was 'deactivated' for security reasons |
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| 13:52.36 | evanejk | oh |
| 13:52.50 | evanejk | so do u remember the abilities server? |
| 13:52.51 | whodaman- | evanejk: it's just better to download a client and join that way, like you are now |
| 13:53.04 | mrshlee2 | Sorry - My connection died seconds after I joined :| |
| 13:53.37 | evanejk | right now im on http://bzstats.strayer.de/bzchat/?lang=en not a client |
| 13:55.23 | donny_baker | yep, so you found a solution :) but still better with an actual client IMHO |
| 13:56.18 | evanejk | do u remember that server that was two castles will lots of gm? |
| 13:57.45 | evanejk | in a cupple of minutes the socom ftb2 should be back up. (thats a psp game i play) |
| 13:59.07 | evanejk | byebye |
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| 14:43.50 | whodaman- | Hi ShadowSpectre |
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| 15:30.33 | Macrosoft | heh, anyone else having to check their power usage so they dont trip a breaker |
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| 16:17.38 | Tedius | diing: "heh, they banned me" |
| 16:19.49 | donny_baker | we aim to please |
| 16:20.29 | whodaman- | lol |
| 16:25.45 | JeffM | he got it again? |
| 16:26.21 | donny_baker | yeah, it's what he wanted so I obliged... nothing serious, but he was working his way up.. by his own admission |
| 16:27.26 | JeffM | game server or forum? |
| 17:12.25 | Tedius | must be just from the forums, he was playing just now |
| 17:15.44 | JeffM | well if it was a ban from a single server, then he could easaly play on another |
| 17:16.17 | JeffM | bahh |
| 17:16.24 | JeffM | we got the busted one again |
| 17:17.12 | JeffM | delusional, if you haven't tried it yet, I just fixed a bug in the model tool with regards to the strips and fans, but it still needs lots of testing. |
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| 18:53.15 | delusional | jeffm, I'll have a go at it, again. Do you want a binary sent? |
| 18:54.01 | JeffM | nope |
| 18:54.10 | JeffM | not untill testing is done ;) |
| 18:54.24 | JeffM | there is no rush, I'm just leting you know I made changes |
| 19:04.42 | delusional | so i uuse stripe first? |
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| 19:05.30 | JeffM | yeah |
| 19:05.50 | JeffM | basicly it will read the stripe stuff out of the objs |
| 19:06.16 | JeffM | so you'd just make obj files in the draw info file in the lod section be the objf stuff from stripe |
| 19:06.42 | JeffM | it should read it and save those sections as tristrip parts in the LOD section of the draw info |
| 19:07.46 | delusional | i thiink i understand that |
| 19:07.55 | JeffM | should be the same stuff you use your tool to do |
| 19:08.13 | JeffM | don't you just pass in an objf file and it spits out drawinfo? |
| 19:09.26 | delusional | to tell you the truth... bouncing between them has me confused whats what |
| 19:09.38 | JeffM | it'll also now create a dummy UV coord if the mesh has none |
| 19:09.55 | delusional | they both have similar yet different features |
| 19:10.11 | delusional | ill get back to you |
| 19:10.58 | JeffM | there is no reason they should not have the same features |
| 19:11.19 | JeffM | we need a real tool for it no mater what |
| 19:11.52 | JeffM | and I'm sorry but php is not the place for us to do it. |
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| 19:21.06 | Kyleschool | hhahfound open wifi rom bus |
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| 19:27.10 | delusional | jeff, it wont make, |
| 19:27.12 | delusional | Updating goal targets.... |
| 19:27.13 | delusional | Considering target file `all'. |
| 19:27.13 | delusional | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:27.53 | delusional | syas something about Avoiding implicit rule recursion. |
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| 19:47.47 | zee851 | hmm who banned me this time |
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| 19:50.08 | brlcad | tannerld: what's up? |
| 19:50.28 | diing | i dont know why this keeps happening i wasnt realy even given a chance i don't know what i did |
| 19:50.56 | whodaman- | oh my |
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| 19:52.38 | tannerld | brlcad: isn't zeebrothers banned? or am I thinking of something else? |
| 19:53.03 | diing | lol, no |
| 19:53.28 | diing | it was banned a while ago i think |
| 19:53.40 | diing | see |
| 19:54.01 | L4m3r | iirc it was banned until they changed their portal to pass the IP through |
| 19:54.08 | diing | for alot of people it's the only way onto irc |
| 19:54.34 | L4m3r | that usually means you're IRCing somewhere you shouldn't |
| 19:54.56 | brlcad | tannerld: bans come and go |
| 19:55.04 | diing | no i'm at my house |
| 19:55.14 | brlcad | nothing is permanent, particularly if there's no abuse -- it doesn't really matter |
| 19:55.21 | diing | i think tedius does it through zee |
| 19:55.52 | L4m3r | well, with the IP we can ban selectively, just like ours |
| 19:56.00 | diing | the website's link won't work |
| 19:56.05 | brlcad | it *really* doesn't matter .. if diing or anyone else coming in order cgi:irc becomes annoying, they'll be removed (whether en masse or individually) |
| 19:56.29 | brlcad | until then, who cares what it was |
| 19:56.43 | diing | lol true |
| 19:58.08 | diing | why does'nt the my.bzflag.org/bb link work |
| 19:58.11 | brlcad | diing: you really should eventually get a real irc client |
| 19:58.36 | brlcad | there's not nearly enough information in that question to help you |
| 19:58.49 | brlcad | what do you mean? |
| 19:58.57 | diing | brlcad i don't get on enough to get the real client |
| 19:59.46 | diing | the forum link won't let me on it just brings up a blank iirc screen |
| 19:59.50 | brlcad | you say that as if that was actually any significant effort, it's not -- and folks would stop whining when you joined ;) |
| 19:59.53 | diing | i wanted to know why |
| 20:00.17 | brlcad | could be lots of reasons, maybe your browser |
| 20:01.21 | diing | it is'nt just me i was talking on bzflag and there are alot of people who it does'nt work for |
| 20:04.06 | Winny | click the refresh buttom |
| 20:04.09 | Winny | empty your cache |
| 20:04.26 | brlcad | diing: what's your browser? |
| 20:04.40 | Winny | diing: if someone really wants to access IRC, they can get a client. It takes all of 5 min to set up. |
| 20:05.46 | diing | brlcad:1.how do you talk yellow 2.i'm using internet explorer |
| 20:05.57 | Winny | eww, IE |
| 20:06.06 | diing | lol |
| 20:06.17 | brlcad | diing: sorry, not going to help you with that |
| 20:06.17 | Winny | use something secure |
| 20:06.38 | diing | like what that expensive AOL |
| 20:06.45 | whodaman- | uh no |
| 20:06.48 | Winny | ROFL |
| 20:06.51 | whodaman- | like FireFox |
| 20:06.54 | Winny | or Opera |
| 20:06.58 | whodaman- | or Safari |
| 20:07.01 | whodaman- | Winny: rofl |
| 20:07.05 | tannerld | etc... |
| 20:07.19 | Winny | Internet Explorer != the internet |
| 20:07.31 | diing | fire fox is just as expensive i use DSL but run it through internet explorer |
| 20:07.45 | tannerld | errr...huh? |
| 20:07.48 | brad | ?? |
| 20:07.50 | Winny | firefox is free... |
| 20:07.57 | tannerld | Browser != internet |
| 20:08.06 | diing | lol |
| 20:08.15 | Winny | http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/ |
| 20:08.38 | whodaman- | lol |
| 20:08.45 | diing | whodaman: fire fox is worse then IE |
| 20:08.45 | whodaman- | And Safari is FREE too |
| 20:08.52 | Winny | so is opera! |
| 20:08.56 | whodaman- | rofl |
| 20:09.01 | diing | OPERA ROCKS |
| 20:09.03 | Winny | or camino, if your on a mac |
| 20:09.05 | diing | lol |
| 20:09.10 | whodaman- | diing: I wouldn't expect ANY LESS of you |
| 20:09.59 | diing | opera is always talking about queres though |
| 20:10.23 | Winny | anyways, ANYTHING is better then IE |
| 20:10.32 | Winny | I suppose IE 7 isn't horrible |
| 20:10.37 | tannerld | Winny: noez |
| 20:10.48 | Winny | but it isn't nearly as good as firefox, or safari, etc |
| 20:10.59 | brlcad | enough browser chatter, quite off-topic and inconsequential -- diing: take the chatter to a different channel if you really care to continue that thread |
| 20:11.23 | Winny | brlcad: theres so much else going on |
| 20:11.24 | diing | i didn't mean too |
| 20:11.41 | diing | all i did was said i use internet explorer |
| 20:13.03 | brlcad | Winny: there doesn't have to be anything "going on" to warrant going into something as pointless as browser stroking |
| 20:13.21 | Winny | You don't agree IE is very unsecure? |
| 20:13.31 | brlcad | Winny: enough |
| 20:13.31 | diing | lol shut up winny |
| 20:13.37 | brlcad | diing: you too |
| 20:13.52 | Winny | brlcad: just anwser ;P |
| 20:13.59 | Winny | not going to say "haw" or anything |
| 20:14.01 | Winny | just wondering |
| 20:14.52 | diing | but,anyways could my browser have anything to do with the fact that the link won't work |
| 20:15.15 | Winny | I'd clear your cookies, cache, etc |
| 20:15.18 | Winny | see if that does anything |
| 20:15.23 | brlcad | if you want a review of it's security, secunia and US-CERT has all of the relevant reports |
| 20:15.26 | diing | ok |
| 20:15.53 | brlcad | diing: it's a web-based interface, your browser has *everything* to do with it working or not |
| 20:16.24 | diing | how do i do that winny hehe |
| 20:16.30 | Winny | what IE version |
| 20:16.43 | diing | is it relivant |
| 20:16.50 | Winny | indeed |
| 20:16.50 | whodaman- | he wouldn't ask |
| 20:17.01 | Winny | probably in help -> about or something like that |
| 20:17.08 | diing | ok |
| 20:17.59 | diing | it doesnt say |
| 20:18.36 | Winny | uh |
| 20:18.41 | Winny | ok, Ill assume 7 then |
| 20:18.45 | diing | ok |
| 20:18.52 | brlcad | diing: the problem would have been already solved by now had you just instead invested the effort to install an irc client |
| 20:18.57 | Winny | go tools -> Delete browsing history to delete cookies |
| 20:19.15 | Winny | try again after that.. |
| 20:19.44 | brlcad | this is specifically why there's no cgi:irc support provided, helping folks remain on that crutch is a disservice |
| 20:20.06 | diing | brlcad:i dont know where i would go to download it |
| 20:20.29 | Winny | a simple google search would fix that |
| 20:20.38 | brlcad | have you ever used a search engine? |
| 20:20.38 | Winny | http://www.silverex.org/news/ |
| 20:20.54 | brlcad | http://www.ircreviews.org/clients/ |
| 20:21.23 | brlcad | ~google "irc clients" |
| 20:22.04 | diing | lol i found 1 |
| 20:22.34 | Winny | x-chat is probably one of the best ones for windows, IMO anyways |
| 20:22.52 | diing | im using mIRC |
| 20:22.58 | Winny | k |
| 20:23.41 | diing | doh its an evaluation coppy? |
| 20:23.55 | Winny | x-chat2 is free |
| 20:23.59 | Winny | dunno about mIRC |
| 20:24.16 | Winny | ah, yes, it's shareware |
| 20:24.19 | brlcad | there are 57 irc clients for windows .. i'm sure there's several free ones in there |
| 20:24.47 | diing | im unistalling this 1 |
| 20:25.04 | L4m3r | xchat isn't "free" technically but it's opensource, so you can just find an unofficial build |
| 20:25.20 | Erroneous | free as in speech |
| 20:25.25 | Winny | x-chat2 is free |
| 20:25.31 | Erroneous | and there are builds that are free as in beer |
| 20:25.45 | diing | lmao its got a hackers guide on that site winny |
| 20:26.03 | diing | what were you searching when you found that site |
| 20:26.06 | Winny | hackers != hacking |
| 20:26.21 | Winny | which I SUppose can be defined many ways |
| 20:26.26 | diing | that's wat i thought |
| 20:26.44 | L4m3r | there are basically two ways |
| 20:27.00 | L4m3r | the way in which the news media and general public use it, and the way in which geeks use it |
| 20:27.12 | Erroneous | see also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hacker |
| 20:27.16 | diing | both the same way |
| 20:27.37 | diing | lol anyways winny where do i go to download it on that site |
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| 20:28.38 | Erroneous | try the giant "download" link at the top of the page. do you even read anything? |
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| 20:30.45 | diingfor | alright who's the wise guy that stole my name |
| 20:30.50 | brlcad | patience is growing exceptionally thin.. |
| 20:31.13 | a_meteorite | >_> |
| 20:31.16 | diingfor | i just wanted to know |
| 20:31.33 | Winny | diingfor: you stole your own name |
| 20:33.39 | L4m3r | ok, #bzchat, before brlcad gets (really) annoyed... |
| 20:34.23 | diingfor | finnaly |
| 20:34.41 | diingfor | err however it's spelled |
| 20:34.45 | a_meteorite | I don't think he understands how IRC works. |
| 20:36.00 | diingfor | lol no i was saying that cause i found a free version |
| 20:39.56 | diingfor | winny is no help pfft |
| 20:40.11 | Winny | I am indeed, I have you links to two x-chat faqs |
| 20:40.17 | Winny | go read the darn things, and get back to us |
| 20:40.26 | Winny | we're not here to spoonfeed you, we're not your parents. |
| 20:40.27 | Tedius | wait, don't get back to us |
| 20:41.30 | diingfor | i read them they dont say a darn thing |
| 20:42.05 | Winny | follow, follow the yellow brick road... http://xchat.org/faq/ |
| 20:42.42 | a_meteorite | Winny: I think his skills stop at "reading" |
| 20:42.56 | a_meteorite | Otherwise we wouldn't have so many problems |
| 20:43.04 | diingfor | i dont know what it means by the network |
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| 20:43.45 | diingfor | im more confused now brlcad |
| 20:43.57 | a_meteorite | He's not your mom. |
| 20:44.11 | Winny | you're currently on freenode. |
| 20:44.14 | Winny | irc.freenode.net. |
| 20:44.18 | diingfor | ok |
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| 20:45.00 | diing_for_the_te | lol yAY |
| 20:45.05 | a_meteorite | Usernames have a character limit. |
| 20:45.09 | Winny | indeed |
| 20:46.10 | diing_for_the_te | 5 minutes huh |
| 20:46.16 | diing_for_the_te | more like half an hour |
| 20:46.26 | a_meteorite | 5 minutes till our breaking point is reached? |
| 20:46.35 | Winny | if you could have read, you would have gotten it up much faster. |
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| 20:47.18 | diing_for_the_te | lol oh noes he's come to takre me away i just got it up |
| 20:48.17 | diing_for_the_te | don't listen to them tim i was'nt causing trouble i swear |
| 20:49.55 | diing_for_the_te | wat |
| 20:51.55 | JeffM | diing_for_the_te, what do you want now? |
| 20:52.04 | JeffM | digiung your hole deeper? |
| 20:52.20 | diing_for_the_te | what |
| 20:52.37 | diing_for_the_te | i didnt do anything i swear |
| 20:52.44 | Winny | hah |
| 20:52.56 | JeffM | what do you want here? |
| 20:53.02 | diing_for_the_te | nooooooooooooo i just got irc dont ban me now |
| 20:53.10 | JeffM | it's my understanding that you wanted to be banned |
| 20:53.15 | diing_for_the_te | it took like half an hour |
| 20:53.20 | JeffM | what more trouble are you going to cause today? |
| 20:53.40 | diing_for_the_te | what i didnt want to be banned |
| 20:54.09 | a_meteorite | diing_for_the_te: How come on my server you publicly announced "how long until I get banned" almost as if you were expecting it? |
| 20:55.02 | a_meteorite | If you expect it, you surely must know what you are doing wrong. |
| 20:55.03 | JeffM | I've allready gone out on a limb leting you back, your making me regret the choice |
| 20:55.23 | diing_for_the_te | i didnt do anything did i |
| 20:55.47 | diing_for_the_te | i didnt post all day yesterday |
| 20:56.01 | a_meteorite | It's not how often you post, it's the content of your posts. |
| 20:57.09 | diing_for_the_te | no i got on earlier yesterday to put my map edit up and left |
| 20:57.23 | diing_for_the_te | when i tryed to get on today i was banned |
| 20:58.03 | SpazzyMcGee | whoa, Tengu just posted in about 10 topics. Somebody should get him to calm down. |
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| 20:58.20 | diing_for_the_te | lol |
| 20:58.26 | diing_for_the_te | thats alot |
| 20:58.53 | donny_baker | yeah.. he posted he was 12 also |
| 20:59.00 | brlcad | or lack thereof |
| 20:59.49 | diing_for_the_te | lol did he do coppa |
| 21:00.07 | Winny | diing_for_the_te: not of your concern |
| 21:00.08 | a_meteorite | Something from the back of my head tells me you were 12 when you signed up. |
| 21:00.10 | donny_baker | diing_for_the_te: you also didn't notice that I was palying when you announce that you were trying to get banned |
| 21:00.27 | a_meteorite | Since you told me that. |
| 21:02.18 | donny_baker | s/palying/playing/ |
| 21:05.19 | diing_for_the_te | lol jeff as i can see you were the one that just came in here looking like you were trying to start a fight |
| 21:05.49 | JeffM | huh? |
| 21:05.52 | JeffM | I'm always here |
| 21:06.06 | Winny | Most people are always here |
| 21:06.08 | JeffM | your the one that came in spmaing babble |
| 21:06.34 | diing_for_the_te | i wasnt spamming babble scroll up |
| 21:06.50 | diing_for_the_te | i was asking a question |
| 21:07.00 | a_meteorite | But this isn't the proper place for your question |
| 21:07.44 | Winny | yes you were. We had to explain to you about 1000 times how to install IRC, since you wouldn't read or listen. |
| 21:08.52 | JeffM | I'm not looking for a fight, I'm looking for you to act like an adult |
| 21:10.35 | Winny | which isn't that hard to do at all. Just think before you type, and actually read things. Oh, and type in an intelligible manner. |
| 21:10.58 | JeffM | Winny, enough, we'll take care of this with him in private |
| 21:24.38 | delusional | jeffm, that wont build at all, might be the makefile. |
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| 21:26.48 | JeffM | what error? |
| 21:27.06 | delusional | ill paste |
| 21:27.12 | JeffM | pastebin please |
| 21:27.15 | JeffM | so there is record |
| 21:30.41 | delusional | -computer:~/bzflag/tools/modeltool delusional$ make |
| 21:30.42 | delusional | make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found. Stop. |
| 21:31.05 | JeffM | hmm odd |
| 21:32.03 | delusional | Reading makefiles... Updating makefiles... Considering target file `GNUmakefile' File `GNUmakefile' does not exist. |
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| 21:41.16 | *** mode/#bzflag [+b *!*@pool-162-83-118-132.norf.east.verizon.net] by JeffM2501 |
| 21:43.49 | JeffM2501 | if anyone has any problems with him please let us know. |
| 21:44.04 | tannerld | /s/him/it/? |
| 21:44.16 | JeffM2501 | diing for the team |
| 21:44.20 | JeffM2501 | the player |
| 21:44.21 | tannerld | ah |
| 21:44.26 | Winny | AKA capping for the team |
| 21:44.27 | a_meteorite | or "capping for the team" |
| 21:45.39 | Winny | hmm, /me just thought of an interesting project for programming class this year.. a plugin that uploads logs to a central server, and allows people with clearance to search them (sorta like norang) |
| 21:46.15 | whodaman- | JeffM2501: he has been banned at my server and changed his IP, banned etc. |
| 21:46.31 | JeffM2501 | I';m sure that will happen on a couple servers |
| 21:46.40 | a_meteorite | Winny: that's what's happening in CAN :) |
| 21:46.55 | a_meteorite | JeffM2501: oh, yeah, we've decided on making it open-source and pushing up the date |
| 21:47.05 | Winny | FOSS! |
| 21:47.10 | JeffM2501 | what license? |
| 21:47.16 | JeffM2501 | and you mean pushing back the date? |
| 21:47.25 | a_meteorite | to a beta type launch |
| 21:47.38 | a_meteorite | we're thinking BSD or even GPL |
| 21:48.46 | JeffM2501 | I would recomend the MPL |
| 21:48.50 | JeffM2501 | or LGPL |
| 21:48.52 | JeffM2501 | it's simpler |
| 21:49.58 | Winny | If its opensource, I bet more people would be willing to adopt it, too |
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| 21:50.06 | JeffM2501 | it will help |
| 21:50.08 | a_meteorite | that was also the thinking behind it |
| 21:50.23 | JeffM2501 | the thing your trusting isn't the software, but the data |
| 21:50.24 | Winny | and the fact that you need it to be some sort of open to be posted on the forums :p |
| 21:50.26 | JeffM2501 | and the amdins |
| 21:50.30 | JeffM2501 | that'll be the kicker |
| 21:50.49 | JeffM2501 | once you get a good month or so of it working on some of your own servers, people will be more willing to join/trust |
| 21:51.20 | a_meteorite | at first we're having it employed on BZFX servers, Constitution has also hopped on. it'll be interesting to see where it goes. |
| 21:52.41 | Winny | I have too |
| 21:54.21 | JeffM2501 | good |
| 21:54.25 | JeffM2501 | let that go for a month or so |
| 21:54.34 | JeffM2501 | then you'll have worked out the logistical kinks |
| 21:54.46 | JeffM2501 | I forsee most of your problems will be non-techincal |
| 21:55.27 | Winny | a_meteorite: one thing im not clear on: will bans made by normal admins be propagated aross CAN? |
| 21:55.36 | a_meteorite | no, just CAN agents |
| 21:55.51 | JeffM2501 | if your doing it like my writeup |
| 21:55.51 | a_meteorite | and CAN agents just enforce CAN rules, not server rules. |
| 21:55.57 | Winny | ah, k |
| 21:56.00 | JeffM2501 | then local admins can still do bans on the local machines |
| 21:56.13 | a_meteorite | yup, and they can ban for offenses not listed in CAN |
| 21:56.44 | JeffM2501 | they can also ban for offenses in the can list too, it just won't propigate |
| 21:56.57 | a_meteorite | we're trying to keep mostly universal, we don't want to take over your server, just help keep out the baddies that break the most basic rules |
| 21:57.02 | a_meteorite | yes |
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| 22:03.45 | whodaman- | cool :) |
| 22:06.26 | Birdie | what about being able only lock onto an enemey? |
| 22:06.42 | Birdie | would reduce tk with gm for a start |
| 22:07.22 | JeffM2501 | and make GM easier to kill with? |
| 22:07.31 | JeffM2501 | and remove it's only weakness |
| 22:07.35 | JeffM2501 | that'd be AWESOME |
| 22:07.38 | JeffM2501 | ;) |
| 22:07.53 | Birdie | gm has more weaknesses |
| 22:07.57 | Birdie | as its easly dodgable |
| 22:08.10 | Birdie | and 50% of who play ff do that as rogue.. |
| 22:08.13 | JeffM2501 | one of it's disadvantages is that it can lock on anyone |
| 22:08.17 | JeffM2501 | just like you can shoot anyone |
| 22:08.43 | JeffM2501 | 2.1 will put a little "no" maker on your hud if your in lockon range of a friendly |
| 22:09.01 | Birdie | to be honoust i thought about it to use in ctf,so you can see which enemy is where |
| 22:09.04 | Birdie | there is hunting i know |
| 22:09.08 | Birdie | but you cant hunt every one |
| 22:09.24 | Birdie | and if there are some "friends" between you and him you cant lock on to see who it is |
| 22:09.28 | Birdie | (not speaking about gm hereĆ ) |
| 22:09.45 | donny_baker | Birdie: but you can hunt everyone ;) |
| 22:10.14 | Birdie | but you cant see a difference in who you hunt |
| 22:10.34 | donny_baker | true |
| 22:10.51 | JeffM2501 | as I said, in 2.1 there is a visual marker on the hud |
| 22:11.06 | JeffM2501 | not just for GM, but for all shots |
| 22:11.19 | JeffM2501 | if the closest person to you is a friendly it'll show you |
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| 23:04.01 | Winny | anyone in here have Spirialzone? |
| 23:04.03 | Winny | I can't find it |
| 23:06.04 | Winny | (the one by wiz) |
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| 23:41.03 | adeadman | anyone know why I cant connect to badger? |
| 23:41.25 | sigonasr2 | works fine for me |
| 23:41.32 | sigonasr2 | Were you able to get on a second ago? |
| 23:41.37 | Winny | adeadman: do you get an error connecting to server? |
| 23:41.58 | adeadman | most of the time, depends on the time of day i spose |
| 23:42.10 | Winny | adeadman: also, FYI, there is a new channel called #badgerking |
| 23:42.27 | adeadman | hmm, i'll have a look see |
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