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| 01:30.38 | Winny | err |
| 01:30.44 | Winny | this just appeared twice in my console |
| 01:30.52 | Winny | ServerRead::loop() |
| 01:31.07 | Winny | err |
| 01:31.29 | Winny | ServerLink::read() loop |
| 01:32.08 | Winny | of any significance? |
| 01:33.55 | blast007 | after a flag reset? |
| 01:36.04 | Winny | don't think so |
| 01:36.51 | blast007 | basically it means that your client got into a loop reading data |
| 01:37.01 | blast007 | was there a lot of activity on the server? |
| 01:37.35 | Winny | 35 people |
| 01:38.22 | blast007 | suppose it could just been from 35 players shooting ;) |
| 01:40.20 | Winny | hehe |
| 01:47.49 | Macrosoft | Winny: nice server |
| 01:50.14 | blast007 | spldart: This war has forced us all to become razors |
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| 01:58.05 | spldart | some other bsg fans 'eh :~) |
| 01:59.19 | blast007 | somewhat |
| 01:59.29 | blast007 | though mainly I just keep seeing the commercials ;) |
| 02:00.20 | Macrosoft | spldart: its starting |
| 02:00.23 | spldart | yes |
| 02:02.29 | Macrosoft | Winny: something's wrong, i can connect to other servers, but not your's |
| 02:02.43 | Winny | Macrosoft: dunno |
| 02:03.12 | Winny | I can join fine |
| 02:03.58 | Macrosoft | it's bzflagr.net:5154 , right? |
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| 02:18.13 | TankSnip1 | my servers not appearing on list |
| 02:19.46 | TD-Linux | Tanksnipe, can other people connect to it? |
| 02:20.16 | blast007 | Tanksnipe: what's the host/port? |
| 02:20.27 | Tanksnipe | tanksnipe.no-ip.org default p |
| 02:20.39 | TD-Linux | ~bzfquery tanksnipe.no-ip.org |
| 02:20.52 | blast007 | doesn't work |
| 02:21.03 | blast007 | ~nslookup tanksnipe.no-ip.org |
| 02:21.15 | blast007 | Tanksnipe: is that the right IP? verify please |
| 02:21.22 | Tanksnipe | lemme check |
| 02:22.05 | Tanksnipe | yes |
| 02:22.24 | blast007 | okay, now verify that your router has the TCP and UDP port 5154 forwarded to the correct LAN IP address |
| 02:22.31 | blast007 | and that your firewall isn't blocking it |
| 02:22.41 | blast007 | becuase I can't connect to that server |
| 02:22.58 | Tanksnipe | no firewall |
| 02:23.02 | blast007 | k |
| 02:23.11 | Tanksnipe | no router |
| 02:23.24 | Tanksnipe | disconnected it yesterday because it was causing lag |
| 02:24.34 | Tanksnipe | .. |
| 02:24.57 | Tanksnipe | i can connect to it using localhost |
| 02:25.18 | blast007 | so your cable/DSL modem connects directly to the machine running the server? |
| 02:25.30 | blast007 | and you don't have a firewall? :/ |
| 02:25.46 | Tanksnipe | no |
| 02:25.52 | Tanksnipe | yes |
| 02:25.58 | Tanksnipe | to your first question |
| 02:26.23 | Tanksnipe | it worked yesterdau |
| 02:26.27 | Tanksnipe | yesterday* |
| 02:26.35 | blast007 | not sure then |
| 02:27.00 | blast007 | let me check one other thing quick |
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| 02:32.06 | blast007 | Tanksnipe: try it now |
| 02:32.18 | blast007 | perhaps the list server had the wrong IP cached, since your IP did change |
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| 03:02.17 | spldart | Yay! Old model Cylons! How 80's! |
| 03:03.08 | spldart | err... late 70's early 80's |
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| 03:17.48 | JeffM | blast007, you arround? |
| 03:19.09 | blast007 | JeffM: yeah |
| 03:19.27 | JeffM | how hard would it be to make a seperate ban list in the list server just for the add action? |
| 03:19.36 | blast007 | not that hard |
| 03:19.41 | JeffM | one that can do say anIP range |
| 03:19.50 | blast007 | ah |
| 03:20.15 | blast007 | would you like CIDR support or just wildcard octets? |
| 03:20.24 | JeffM | what is CIDR? |
| 03:20.41 | blast007 | basically like a subnet mask |
| 03:20.51 | JeffM | whatever you want to do :) |
| 03:21.30 | blast007 | would let you ban, say, 192.168.0.0 to 192.168.0.127 instead of the whole 192.168.0.* (basic example) |
| 03:21.40 | JeffM | ahh |
| 03:21.49 | JeffM | again whatever you want to do |
| 03:21.52 | blast007 | k |
| 03:21.53 | JeffM | if you want to do it |
| 03:22.15 | JeffM | cus I think we can get away with banning ranges on the list for servers |
| 03:22.26 | blast007 | ok |
| 03:23.52 | JeffM | also be nice if it pulled the bans from another file too |
| 03:23.55 | JeffM | like an include |
| 03:27.52 | JeffM | and did you tell the jerk to take it up with server owners? |
| 03:28.20 | blast007 | which jerk? |
| 03:28.23 | blast007 | ratman? |
| 03:28.27 | JeffM | ya |
| 03:28.33 | blast007 | yeah |
| 03:28.52 | JeffM | then we can yank the thread |
| 03:28.53 | blast007 | he (well, his "brother", or so he says) has been poll banning people on various servers using multiple accounts |
| 03:29.01 | blast007 | I've spoken with him |
| 03:29.12 | JeffM | was the term "stuffit "used? |
| 03:29.19 | blast007 | he said "his brother" will speak with me tonight after his picks him up |
| 03:29.41 | JeffM | and that makes sense how? |
| 03:30.00 | blast007 | his brother was at a concert, again, supposedly |
| 03:30.13 | JeffM | and it was the "brother" that posted? |
| 03:30.17 | blast007 | no |
| 03:30.30 | JeffM | then why does this brother need to talk to you? |
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| 03:30.32 | blast007 | his brother is "Darrell Waltrip" |
| 03:30.41 | blast007 | because he said itw as his brother that was doing the poll bans |
| 03:31.04 | JeffM | so are you taking care of it as a server admin on that server? |
| 03:31.27 | blast007 | he was premtively banned from that server before he could do anything |
| 03:31.35 | blast007 | anything abusive, that is |
| 03:31.37 | JeffM | what server? |
| 03:31.41 | blast007 | bloodbath |
| 03:31.46 | JeffM | you an admin there? |
| 03:31.50 | blast007 | yes |
| 03:31.56 | JeffM | cool |
| 03:32.02 | blast007 | donny banned him |
| 03:32.14 | JeffM | then the server admin staff is taking care of it :) |
| 03:32.18 | JeffM | that's all that matters |
| 03:32.23 | blast007 | heh, k |
| 03:33.02 | L4m3r | Just a note, I'm dumping any moved threads from the playground into the basement |
| 03:33.08 | blast007 | k |
| 03:33.10 | L4m3r | just for the sake of organization |
| 03:33.13 | JeffM | k |
| 03:33.23 | JeffM | don't be afraid to delete pointless stuff |
| 03:33.25 | L4m3r | discuss on the playground, dump in the basement :) |
| 03:33.29 | blast007 | I just threw it somewhere quick to get it out of public view |
| 03:33.40 | JeffM | yeah makes sense |
| 03:33.46 | L4m3r | that way we can purge the basement completely and indescriminately once in a while |
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| 03:38.42 | L4m3r | yick, looks like the attic may be due for some cleanup as well |
| 03:38.54 | JeffM | purge em all |
| 03:41.55 | Tanksnipe | blast its not showing up again. |
| 03:42.23 | blast007 | Tanksnipe: your IP keeps changing |
| 03:42.31 | Tanksnipe | i have it aliased tho |
| 03:42.32 | blast007 | you'll have to wait until the cache runs out |
| 03:42.35 | blast007 | doens't matter |
| 03:42.37 | blast007 | it caches it |
| 03:42.41 | blast007 | somewhere along the line |
| 03:43.04 | Tanksnipe | alright |
| 03:43.49 | Tanksnipe | weird it jsut got on list just now |
| 03:44.10 | JeffM | if your IP changes that fast, it's not going to make you a good host |
| 03:45.19 | Tanksnipe | nah i chnaged it by accident |
| 03:45.32 | JeffM | your not using a firewall? |
| 03:45.49 | Tanksnipe | gnome was being a bit glitchy, i don't intend to host jsut doing a little testing |
| 03:48.19 | Tanksnipe | no firewal |
| 03:48.33 | JeffM | on what OS? |
| 03:48.53 | JeffM | ahh gnome |
| 03:49.11 | JeffM | wow, you must realy want that machine to get riped |
| 03:49.32 | L4m3r | is it even possible to disable a linux firewall? heh |
| 03:49.39 | JeffM | indeed |
| 03:52.16 | Tanksnipe | what do you mean riped jeff? |
| 03:52.24 | Tanksnipe | fedora 7 |
| 03:52.27 | JeffM | exploited |
| 03:52.27 | Tanksnipe | 8* |
| 03:52.33 | Tanksnipe | o |
| 03:52.35 | JeffM | to the point of you no longer controlling it |
| 03:52.53 | JeffM | no firewall, that thing will be wide open |
| 03:53.00 | spldart | gnome is a particularly vulnerable WM? |
| 03:53.18 | JeffM | oh and look, your out there telling everyone your IP via a nice hostname |
| 03:53.22 | Tanksnipe | im not leaving it off forever |
| 03:53.24 | JeffM | spldart, no, just meansnix |
| 03:53.31 | spldart | ah |
| 03:53.41 | Tanksnipe | jsut turned it off to see if to see if that was the problem |
| 03:53.47 | JeffM | Tanksnipe, like not on the net? or not running bzfs? |
| 03:54.03 | JeffM | cus it has nothing to do with bzflag |
| 03:54.13 | Tanksnipe | I know that know. |
| 03:54.38 | JeffM | your probably allready part of a botnet |
| 03:54.54 | Tanksnipe | nah i just reinstalled fedora |
| 03:55.20 | Tanksnipe | my windows os is probably keylogged tho |
| 03:55.22 | JeffM | so that's your secuity idiom? constant re-installs? |
| 03:55.34 | Tanksnipe | no.. |
| 03:55.41 | Tanksnipe | antivirus software |
| 03:55.50 | JeffM | so constant re-installs |
| 03:55.58 | JeffM | good job being part of the problem..... |
| 03:56.09 | Tanksnipe | . |
| 03:56.21 | JeffM | IRC as root, throw open systems on the net, nice... |
| 03:59.53 | spldart | harsh |
| 04:01.32 | Tanksnipe | im not irc as root.. |
| 04:01.39 | JeffM | you have in the past |
| 04:01.40 | Tanksnipe | ircing* |
| 04:01.53 | Tanksnipe | well..now i know not too |
| 04:02.07 | JeffM | throwing raw systems on the net, is worse |
| 04:02.25 | JeffM | you may want to think about geting nat router |
| 04:02.33 | Tanksnipe | i do have one :p |
| 04:02.38 | Tanksnipe | disconecte to |
| 04:02.39 | Tanksnipe | it* |
| 04:02.46 | JeffM | you don't use it? |
| 04:03.06 | Tanksnipe | i disconnected to because it was causing me lag when i joined localservers |
| 04:03.16 | spldart | oops... changed person |
| 04:03.16 | Tanksnipe | it* |
| 04:03.18 | JeffM | then get a router that dosn't suck |
| 04:03.22 | Tanksnipe | its a linksys.. |
| 04:03.29 | JeffM | same statement |
| 04:03.39 | Tanksnipe | suggest a brand |
| 04:03.41 | JeffM | or install other firmware |
| 04:03.54 | blast007 | though mine is one that runs linux |
| 04:03.55 | Tanksnipe | i think i will i saw a nice opensource replacement |
| 04:04.09 | blast007 | Tanksnipe: which one do you have? model & revision |
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| 04:04.18 | JeffM | your , and . keys do not work? |
| 04:04.28 | Tanksnipe | wrt54gs |
| 04:05.45 | Constitution | indow 4 |
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| 04:07.49 | blast007 | hi jude- |
| 04:07.50 | jude- | hello all |
| 04:08.06 | Tanksnipe | idk the revision |
| 04:09.06 | blast007 | Tanksnipe: should say on the bottom sticker |
| 04:09.11 | JeffM | the revisoun is IDK? |
| 04:09.11 | blast007 | where it has the MAC address |
| 04:09.24 | JeffM | type.. all.. words... |
| 04:09.36 | JeffM | what is wrong with kids these days? |
| 04:10.12 | Winny | dunno |
| 04:10.33 | jude- | too much cellphone texting? |
| 04:10.44 | Tanksnipe | I don't know does not say. |
| 04:10.46 | blast007 | sorry, I meant, near the Media Access Control address ;) |
| 04:10.53 | Tanksnipe | :) |
| 04:10.54 | JeffM | Tanksnipe, what? |
| 04:11.10 | JeffM | is english not your primary language? |
| 04:11.21 | Tanksnipe | Yes. |
| 04:11.31 | JeffM | what is your primary language? |
| 04:12.39 | Winny | AOL ;) |
| 04:13.26 | spldart | Next level harsh |
| 04:13.32 | JeffM | if we knew, the it would help |
| 04:13.57 | spldart | missle war 2.2 is pretty cool :) |
| 04:14.08 | Winny | quite a few native german spanish speakers IIRC |
| 04:14.13 | Constitution | ~ducatiwannabe++ |
| 04:14.23 | spldart | He did do that map didn't he |
| 04:14.31 | Winny | yes |
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| 04:14.37 | JeffM | Tanksnipe, where are you from? |
| 04:14.38 | spldart | ~ducatiwannabe++ |
| 04:14.55 | Winny | grr ibot |
| 04:14.56 | Winny | ~ducatiwannabe++ |
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| 04:27.47 | spldart | anyone notice pythonian.com:5154 often jitters? |
| 04:27.52 | spldart | lately |
| 04:27.54 | Winny | good :p |
| 04:28.11 | spldart | heh... don't like the competition? |
| 04:28.22 | spldart | They are hosting a good ole ctf map :) |
| 04:44.30 | Tanksnipe | back |
| 04:44.38 | Tanksnipe | and i think i found a glitch |
| 04:44.49 | Tanksnipe | nmy server says reloading in 23000+ seconds |
| 04:44.57 | Tanksnipe | and my shots are full |
| 04:45.12 | Tanksnipe | and i cannot shoot. |
| 04:46.20 | blast007 | that would be some issue your your server settings |
| 04:46.26 | tannerld | heh |
| 04:46.30 | blast007 | bzdb settings, specifically |
| 04:46.41 | blast007 | so not a glitch, just poor configuration |
| 04:48.01 | Tanksnipe | hmm |
| 04:48.10 | Tanksnipe | i've used this conf before tho |
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| 04:53.04 | defective | how do i fix? |
| 04:55.56 | Winny | fixed! |
| 04:55.59 | Winny | *poof* |
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| 04:56.12 | JeffM | defective, what are you talking about |
| 04:56.25 | defective | can u kick me Tanksnipe |
| 04:56.29 | JeffM | what? |
| 04:56.30 | defective | my nick is stuck in here |
| 04:56.43 | JeffM | ok, are you saying that you are tanksnipe? |
| 04:56.46 | defective | yes |
| 04:56.52 | JeffM | kicking won't remove the connection from the server |
| 04:56.57 | defective | o |
| 04:57.13 | JeffM | you have to ghost it with nickserv ( if you registered ) |
| 04:57.22 | JeffM | or wait |
| 04:57.27 | JeffM | and again, comunicate clearly |
| 04:57.37 | Macrosoft | Winny: we need you to ban jazzy, he's tk'ing then rejoining |
| 04:57.42 | Winny | /msg nickserv ghost <name> pass |
| 04:57.47 | Winny | Macrosoft, k |
| 04:57.54 | JeffM | defective, if you can't, there will be a ban just for you. |
| 04:58.03 | defective | What? |
| 04:58.17 | Winny | what r u playing as Macrosoft? |
| 04:58.19 | Winny | err, who |
| 04:58.21 | JeffM | where are you from defective ? |
| 04:58.30 | Macrosoft | Winny: the results of the poll were 7 in favor, 0 oppose, and 11 abstain. the only reason hedidnt get banned is because of the abstained |
| 04:58.37 | defective | Im Tanksnipe, and im from California. |
| 04:58.47 | JeffM | ok, then stop BSing me |
| 04:58.50 | JeffM | you speak english |
| 04:58.52 | JeffM | so type it |
| 04:59.00 | JeffM | use real sentances |
| 04:59.16 | blast007 | Macrosoft: I'm on there now, watching him |
| 05:00.05 | Macrosoft | blast007: he seems to go after "supertank", in particular |
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| 05:01.30 | Winny | he seems to just suck |
| 05:01.32 | Winny | and not TK |
| 05:02.49 | Macrosoft | Winny: he just did it, tk'ed the same person again |
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| 05:17.42 | Tanksnipe | there fixed |
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| 07:07.02 | Constitution | We have a joystick-related patch on SF, and I'm not sure if it's something we want or not. If someone more familiar with our joystick stuff could take a look at it, that would do it more justice: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1817143&group_id=3248&atid=303248 |
| 07:13.42 | DTRemenak | Constitution: the effect is intentional; it lets you control joystick sensitivity by changing your mousebox size |
| 07:14.30 | Constitution | so the joystick range is already scaled to the mousebox size, not the screen size like he's saying? |
| 07:14.43 | DTRemenak | no, it's scaled to screen size, but motion is scaled to mousebox size |
| 07:14.59 | DTRemenak | so you can hit max motion in less than the full range of your joystick |
| 07:15.08 | Constitution | ah |
| 07:15.19 | DTRemenak | which is exactly what he's complaining about afaict |
| 07:15.24 | DTRemenak | so maybe it needs review |
| 07:16.01 | DTRemenak | ideally we'd split it all up, so joystick and mouse sensitivity are controlled independently |
| 07:16.16 | DTRemenak | and ideally, we'd show markers for actual speed as well as desired speed |
| 07:16.24 | DTRemenak | but all that requires a significant amount of hud and input work |
| 07:18.28 | Constitution | thanks |
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| 08:37.41 | Tanksnipe | met is that you? |
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| 08:38.08 | a_meteorite | yes this is me... |
| 08:38.17 | Tanksnipe | need to talk to you in game.. |
| 08:38.21 | Tanksnipe | respond |
| 08:38.27 | a_meteorite | done |
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| 11:02.26 | smee | Evening... |
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| 11:03.47 | AnotherSmee | Evening... |
| 11:04.08 | AnotherSmee | Anyone Awake? |
| 11:08.08 | whodaman- | Indeed. |
| 11:09.44 | AnotherSmee | :) |
| 11:09.47 | Tupone | Evening? |
| 11:09.52 | Tupone | where? |
| 11:10.01 | AnotherSmee | Canberra, Australia |
| 11:10.05 | AnotherSmee | 22:10 here |
| 11:10.28 | Tupone | I guess you don't think everyone are from your timezone |
| 11:10.37 | AnotherSmee | Nope, |
| 11:10.48 | Tupone | so evening is not appropriate :) |
| 11:11.06 | Tupone | ~gmtu |
| 11:11.21 | AnotherSmee | Ahhh, is it aimed at the person talking or the person listening? |
| 11:11.29 | AnotherSmee | anyway... |
| 11:11.36 | AnotherSmee | anyone done MacOS X compiles here? |
| 11:11.42 | Tupone | you should say morning when entering :) |
| 11:11.48 | Tupone | whatever time is :) |
| 11:12.00 | Tupone | brlcad, ts |
| 11:12.21 | AnotherSmee | ok... i haven't played irc for about 7 years so things have obviously changed... |
| 11:13.00 | whodaman- | you used to *play* irc? |
| 11:13.23 | AnotherSmee | you get the drift... |
| 11:14.08 | AnotherSmee | "been on", "interacted with", "obtained gestalt with.." |
| 11:14.10 | AnotherSmee | <grin> |
| 11:23.06 | AnotherSmee | Hmmmm... Anyone here compiled 2.0.10 on MacOS X yet? |
| 11:23.47 | AnotherSmee | I have a working compile, but it doesn't have libcrypto or libcurl in the resources directory so I suspect it won't be very portable... |
| 11:24.48 | whodaman- | you could just download the mac build |
| 11:24.59 | AnotherSmee | there isn't a 2.0.10 mac build yet... |
| 11:25.05 | AnotherSmee | not that I've found anyway... |
| 11:25.25 | whodaman- | there is a RC3 mac build that is basically .10 |
| 11:25.44 | AnotherSmee | Hmmm... I'll just hunt that down... |
| 11:26.10 | whodaman- | I'll get that link for you |
| 11:26.36 | whodaman- | http://beta.bzflag.bz/builds/2.0.x/MacOSX/ |
| 11:26.53 | whodaman- | "there is no functional difference between it and the final. " JeffM |
| 11:28.32 | AnotherSmee | Hmmm, the bz2 tarball is 34Mb. My zipped app is 12Mb. |
| 11:28.52 | AnotherSmee | looks like it might have the source there as well... |
| 11:28.53 | whodaman- | what os version are you running? |
| 11:29.11 | whodaman- | I had troubles with 10.4 on a PPC |
| 11:29.12 | AnotherSmee | 10.4.11 |
| 11:29.19 | AnotherSmee | MacBook Pro (Intel) |
| 11:29.35 | whodaman- | Well, the tarball didn't work for me... |
| 11:29.39 | AnotherSmee | My 2.0.10 build runs fine for me on this |
| 11:29.56 | AnotherSmee | MBP. I might just try it on the G5 iMac... hangon... |
| 11:33.57 | AnotherSmee | ahah! |
| 11:34.22 | AnotherSmee | downloading the world map fails... |
| 11:34.51 | AnotherSmee | I have a DarwinPorts install of Curl... |
| 11:45.02 | AnotherSmee | nope, not that... |
| 11:45.23 | AnotherSmee | might be a universal build problem... |
| 11:45.42 | AnotherSmee | I might have to redo the build ont he G5 |
| 11:45.48 | AnotherSmee | hmmm |
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| 11:54.23 | AnotherSmee | Evening... |
| 11:54.25 | AnotherSmee | :) |
| 11:54.59 | AnotherSmee | Hmmm... It's not libcurl, it might be libcrypto. It seems to be downloading the map, but failing the MD5 sum. |
| 12:31.06 | donny_baker | defective = coocooforcocoapuffs on bzfx last night... may also = tanksnipe per bzflag irc last night |
| 12:31.30 | donny_baker | may be a cooincidence as they do not appear to be on the same ip |
| 12:31.42 | donny_baker | nsry wrong channel |
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| 18:52.20 | spldart | *crickets* |
| 18:54.56 | whodaman- | *gag* |
| 18:55.20 | Winny | what on earth |
| 18:55.29 | Winny | I have LOADPLUGIN in my groups, and I still can't load them |
| 18:55.30 | Winny | wheee |
| 18:56.11 | spldart | heh |
| 18:56.12 | whodaman- | Winny, I had that problem, hang on |
| 18:56.36 | Winny | "You do not have permission to (un) load plugins" |
| 18:56.52 | whodaman- | yes, hang on |
| 18:57.10 | whodaman- | Winny, PLUGINS |
| 18:57.12 | whodaman- | that's it. |
| 18:57.44 | Winny | oh |
| 18:57.45 | Winny | whee |
| 18:58.11 | whodaman- | work? |
| 19:09.17 | Winny | is log rotate not encluded in the default build any more? :/ |
| 19:11.38 | Winny | Missile war 2 is accumlating about 1mb of logs a day |
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| 19:40.00 | blast007 | Winny: what do you mean? |
| 19:40.11 | blast007 | log rotate is a system thing, not a bzfs thing |
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| 19:41.25 | nn-mai1 | how do i load a plugin for bzfs |
| 19:41.42 | Winny | /loadplugin /path/to/plugin.so |
| 19:42.01 | whodaman- | nn-mai1, you have to have the PLUGINS perm set for that, right Winny ;) |
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| 19:42.15 | nn-mai1 | humm it keeps saying unknown command |
| 19:42.26 | Winny | then you probably need to recompile |
| 19:42.32 | Winny | or give yourself the perm |
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| 19:42.53 | nn-mai1 | [SERVER->] Unknown command [loadplugin /home/nn/plugins/weaponArena/weaponAr |
| 19:42.53 | nn-mai1 | ena.lo] |
| 19:43.31 | whodaman- | if it's a plugin shouldn't it be .so ? |
| 19:43.31 | blast007 | nn-mai1: build your bzfs with plugin support |
| 19:43.46 | blast007 | yeah, that too |
| 19:43.55 | blast007 | he didn't build with plugin support, so he didn't get any .so's |
| 19:44.06 | nn-mai1 | is there a spesial option i need to give ./configure to enable it? and build it with out building the bzflag client |
| 19:44.12 | blast007 | nn-mai1: add --enable-shared to configure |
| 19:44.26 | blast007 | yeah, and for no client, --disable-client |
| 19:44.35 | blast007 | that will build bzfs with plugins, and bzadmin |
| 19:44.38 | nn-mai1 | ok cool thanks guys |
| 19:44.51 | blast007 | np |
| 19:45.02 | blast007 | ./configure --help |
| 19:45.04 | blast007 | ;) |
| 19:45.36 | Winny | any idea why BZFS wouldn't be writing to a banfile? |
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| 19:46.29 | Winny | well, it does write to it... just not all the time |
| 19:46.54 | blast007 | Winny: multiple servers using the same file? |
| 19:46.58 | Winny | yes |
| 19:47.06 | blast007 | are you using servercontrol? |
| 19:47.10 | Winny | nope |
| 19:47.23 | blast007 | well, servers don't reload the ban files automatically |
| 19:47.36 | blast007 | so if you ban someone on server A, it won't show up on server B |
| 19:47.47 | Winny | but why would it not be writing to the banfile? |
| 19:47.53 | Winny | conflict of resources? |
| 19:47.55 | blast007 | and then if you ban someone on server B, it writes over the ban file, so the ban from Server A goes away |
| 19:48.08 | Winny | oh.. hot damn |
| 19:48.12 | blast007 | each servers writes out their bans |
| 19:48.24 | blast007 | servercontrol would reload the ban files when they change |
| 19:48.40 | blast007 | (checks every 5 seconds, iirc) |
| 19:49.07 | blast007 | also lets you do some cool stuff like restarting when empty |
| 19:49.29 | blast007 | spldart: bah, those n00bs don't know how to eat crickets! |
| 19:49.38 | spldart | hehe |
| 19:49.46 | Winny | blast007: okay, thanks |
| 19:49.48 | blast007 | they're better when they're still crawling around |
| 19:50.02 | blast007 | Winny: np |
| 19:51.02 | blast007 | http://bzflag.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/bzflag/branches/v2_0branch/bzflag/plugins/serverControl/README.txt?view=markup |
| 19:51.03 | spldart | blast007> Lemme guess... You prefer your bugs crunchy... Like they are all carrying SH flag |
| 19:51.06 | blast007 | http://bzflag.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/bzflag/branches/v2_0branch/bzflag/plugins/serverControl/plugins.cfg?view=markup |
| 19:51.18 | blast007 | spldart: definately |
| 19:51.38 | spldart | heh |
| 19:59.25 | Winny | blast007: if you don't specify the location of the masterban file, will it use the official one? |
| 20:01.31 | blast007 | it doesn't set which ones it uses |
| 20:01.37 | blast007 | that just controls what file it monitors |
| 20:01.46 | Winny | ah |
| 20:01.53 | blast007 | you still have to set the banfile and masterban file in the server config |
| 20:01.57 | Winny | darn, was hoping I could get out of running shell scripts :p |
| 20:02.02 | blast007 | I have a local ban file that updates every so often |
| 20:02.22 | blast007 | shell scripts? |
| 20:02.28 | blast007 | for the masterban? |
| 20:02.34 | Winny | yeah |
| 20:02.57 | blast007 | I have one shell script that downloads periodically to a shared location |
| 20:03.10 | blast007 | then all my servers point to that, so they don't do an HTTP request |
| 20:03.11 | Winny | ok |
| 20:03.15 | blast007 | and servercontrol monitors that |
| 20:03.25 | blast007 | so as soon as a change is detected, it reloads the masterbans |
| 20:04.41 | Winny | alrightee, I shall have some fun configuring this |
| 20:04.59 | blast007 | the restart files will be per server |
| 20:05.20 | blast007 | so you would just create them, and the plugin would see they existed and take action when possible |
| 20:05.21 | Winny | Im not gonna worry about restart stuff, just ban syncing |
| 20:05.28 | blast007 | k |
| 20:05.45 | Winny | seems like it would be wise to sync all bans across our box |
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| 20:12.47 | Winny | blast007: where is check_masterbans.sh? I don't see it in the serverControl dir in the source.. |
| 20:13.17 | blast007 | hmm, let me see what mine has |
| 20:14.19 | blast007 | http://static.bzexcess.com/update-masterbans.sh |
| 20:15.10 | Winny | thankies |
| 20:16.36 | Winny | is there a reason for using .new, and not .txt? |
| 20:18.30 | Winny | also, from looking at the script, it how doe it know when to reload the masterbanlist? |
| 20:23.15 | Winny | I guess I'd need to run a cron-job? |
| 20:24.09 | Thumper_ | hi Winny |
| 20:24.23 | Winny | Thumper_: hello |
| 20:24.54 | Thumper_ | .new because you fetch the banfile periodically - but that doesn't mean it changed |
| 20:25.08 | Thumper_ | and you normally diff the .new with what you have now (.txt) |
| 20:25.19 | Thumper_ | and rename .new->.txt if it's different |
| 20:25.27 | Thumper_ | so your servers only reload when real changes happen |
| 20:25.32 | Winny | which would would I specify as my masterban file in the plugins.cfg? |
| 20:25.37 | Winny | .new or .txt? |
| 20:25.37 | Thumper_ | instead of hourly or whatever you reload the masterban file from the net |
| 20:26.00 | Thumper_ | .txt |
| 20:26.03 | Winny | ok |
| 20:26.05 | Thumper_ | servers use .txt |
| 20:26.13 | Thumper_ | script fetches to .new and renames to .txt if it's not the same |
| 20:26.16 | Thumper_ | as the existing .txt |
| 20:26.20 | Thumper_ | (or something like that) |
| 20:26.29 | Thumper_ | so your servers only see really changes |
| 20:26.33 | Thumper_ | really -> real |
| 20:26.48 | Winny | alright |
| 20:27.47 | Thumper_ | this is what I use |
| 20:27.49 | Thumper_ | */30 * * * * curl -s http://bzflag.org/master-bans.txt >~/db/master-bans.tmp && mv ~/db/master-bans.tmp ~/db/master-bans.new |
| 20:28.31 | Thumper_ | although it could also just do the diff andmove too |
| 20:29.46 | Thumper_ | no good reason. it's just in another shell script loop that propages ban files across server hosts |
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| 20:30.33 | Winny | */30 * * * * /bzflag/bancontrol/update-masterbans.sh |
| 20:30.33 | Winny | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:31.35 | Thumper_ | if that script does the right thing - usre |
| 20:31.36 | Thumper_ | sure* |
| 20:31.59 | Thumper_ | I haven't seen it |
| 20:32.07 | Winny | http://static.bzexcess.com/update-masterbans.sh |
| 20:32.15 | Winny | replaced his paths with mine |
| 20:33.21 | Thumper_ | yup looks fine to me |
| 20:34.02 | Winny | now, does this mean I need to define a seperate banfile for all servers, and the plugin syncs them |
| 20:35.14 | Thumper_ | no |
| 20:35.21 | Thumper_ | one banfile on a single server host |
| 20:35.25 | Winny | ah, ok |
| 20:35.26 | Thumper_ | and all the bzservers use it |
| 20:35.40 | Thumper_ | and serverControl just checks for changes and does a reload if it's new |
| 20:35.48 | Winny | I still define -banfile in the conf, or does the plugin automaticaly do it? |
| 20:35.55 | Thumper_ | bzservers normally change and update |
| 20:36.03 | Thumper_ | and all the other servers using the same file notice it's new and reload |
| 20:36.10 | Thumper_ | you need both |
| 20:36.26 | Thumper_ | all you're adding with the plugin is the 'right' banfile to monitor and it'll do a reload to pick up new things |
| 20:36.34 | Winny | ahh |
| 20:36.37 | Thumper_ | the existing bzfs banfile code doesnt' know anything about sharing the banfile |
| 20:36.41 | Thumper_ | so it only writes on changes |
| 20:44.25 | Winny | does it mix the maserban list into it too, or does the masterban file need to be in the conf too? |
| 20:45.50 | Thumper_ | ? |
| 20:46.29 | Thumper_ | there are two banfiles (normally) |
| 20:46.32 | Winny | as in, I assume I need to define the master ban file in the conf as well |
| 20:46.43 | Winny | I only ever define -banfile /path/file.txt |
| 20:46.49 | Thumper_ | the read-only masterban file and the read/write local ban file (which we're sharing between servers) |
| 20:46.58 | Thumper_ | yes |
| 20:47.27 | Winny | I forget what that is, "-masterbanlist"? |
| 20:48.45 | blast007 | Winny: bzfs -help | grep master |
| 20:48.57 | Saber__ | i got a little problem and I'm sure at least one person here could help me |
| 20:49.26 | Thumper_ | Winny: you can use -masterBanURL file:/blah |
| 20:49.29 | whodaman- | Saber__, what? |
| 20:49.32 | Saber__ | I've seen on the wiki that i need to add -timemanual to my conf to have countdown but i get a message error ingame |
| 20:49.51 | Winny | you need to add -time too, IIRC. |
| 20:49.54 | Winny | or something |
| 20:50.01 | Thumper_ | Winny: where the file is your local copy from curl |
| 20:50.03 | Saber__ | going to try that |
| 20:50.23 | Winny | Thumper_: /bzflag/bancontrol/banfiles/masterbans.txt |
| 20:50.35 | Thumper_ | with file: on the front |
| 20:51.20 | Thumper_ | -masterBanURL file:/usr/local/lib/master-bans.txt |
| 20:52.07 | Winny | ok |
| 20:53.25 | Saber__ | they should specify it on the wiki |
| 20:53.42 | Saber__ | ty winny |
| 20:54.04 | Winny | -time 1800 is 30 min, i think |
| 20:54.24 | Saber__ | yea |
| 21:00.57 | Winny | Thumper_: this is all I need to add to my conf? http://pastebin.ca/797212 |
| 21:05.18 | Thumper_ | Winny: looks right |
| 21:05.23 | Winny | alright |
| 21:11.23 | Winny | oh boy.. when I run it, I get "curl: command not found" |
| 21:11.30 | Winny | curl has to be there... we've compiled BZ |
| 21:17.49 | Winny | hmm, its not syncing... |
| 21:18.33 | Winny | nor is it even writing to the banfile :/ |
| 21:21.01 | Winny | oh, wait, file permissions |
| 21:21.02 | Winny | duh |
| 21:24.23 | Winny | Thumper_: how long in between ban syncing? I seem to have to run a /reload to get the ban to show up in another server. |
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| 21:30.42 | Winny | zee133 / zee214, something we can help you with? |
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| 21:34.28 | Winny | "every tick event (approximately every 3 seconds", it seems like more then that to me |
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| 21:38.00 | spldart | Gah! |
| 21:43.40 | Winny | ~Thumper_++ |
| 21:43.46 | Winny | ~blast007++ |
| 21:43.55 | spldart | ~Thumper_++ |
| 21:44.03 | spldart | ~blast007++. |
| 21:44.09 | spldart | ~blast007++ |
| 21:44.15 | spldart | sry for the . |
| 21:44.26 | spldart | pre 'sry |
| 21:44.35 | spldart | seemed like the ting to do |
| 21:44.42 | spldart | ...now to find a server |
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| 21:48.17 | Winny | hmm |
| 21:48.23 | Winny | the ban still isn't syncing :/ |
| 21:48.46 | DTRemenak | Winny: 3 secs is the approximate minimum tick count. ticks will occur MUCH more frequently on active servers |
| 21:49.02 | DTRemenak | they're not for timing, they're for "hey the server just went through the main loop" |
| 21:49.34 | Winny | hmm |
| 21:50.03 | DTRemenak | plugins can also change the minimum tick time |
| 21:50.49 | DTRemenak | anyway, my comments are all out of context, I haven't read any backlog, just what's on the screen right now :) |
| 21:50.54 | DTRemenak | so don't assume I'm trying to help ;) |
| 21:51.16 | Winny | ah |
| 21:51.22 | Winny | :p |
| 21:53.19 | whodaman- | I have a question, I'm settin up a bot for logging, is it OK if he joins here? |
| 21:53.33 | Winny | uh, why not just use your own chat log? |
| 21:54.02 | whodaman- | That wasn't my question :P |
| 21:54.09 | DTRemenak | whodaman-: in short, no :) you're welcome to leave your own client on, or use ibot's logs |
| 21:54.17 | whodaman- | k |
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| 21:55.21 | Winny | Thumper_: ping |
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| 22:02.43 | spldart | I noticed that my predisposition to playing towards breakout and score ignoring my own kill ratio score still rules my gameplay on the new ducatiwannabe 2.2 map...... |
| 22:02.48 | spldart | I wonder if that's good or bad |
| 22:04.40 | Winny | I wonder if -loadplugin needs to go in the conf BEFORE the ban file |
| 22:06.16 | spldart | Is there any respect for that one low scoring player on the s/list that is not just playing badly but constantly going after the best and most entrenched player on the oppossing team trying to cause a breakout the rest of the team jump in after |
| 22:06.34 | inchworm | nope |
| 22:06.41 | inchworm | they are just the lowest scoring player ;) |
| 22:07.08 | spldart | D$%n |
| 22:07.23 | inchworm | now if you have real teams, rather than the std collection of players... |
| 22:07.34 | Thumper_ | Winny: pong |
| 22:07.36 | spldart | if you have real teams.... |
| 22:07.40 | spldart | It's a thing of beauty |
| 22:07.44 | spldart | I've been there done that |
| 22:07.49 | spldart | and nearly shed a tear |
| 22:07.53 | inchworm | :) |
| 22:07.55 | inchworm | those are fun |
| 22:07.56 | spldart | twas/..... beautiful |
| 22:08.04 | inchworm | but it's hard to get that |
| 22:08.08 | spldart | Very... |
| 22:08.29 | inchworm | need to lan with your biddies if you really want that to work |
| 22:08.35 | inchworm | *buddies |
| 22:09.58 | spldart | Don't get me wrong... I've dominated this very map this very day... top scoring of my team twice on two seperate occasions... this time I joined red and got green and saw quick that green was getting dominated... So I played desperate shots with the appropriate superflag for a breakout |
| 22:10.56 | Winny | Thumper_: when I run /listplugins, it shows serverControl.so, but the bans aren't syncing |
| 22:11.03 | inchworm | hehe |
| 22:11.03 | Winny | I need to run /reload for them to sync up |
| 22:11.11 | spldart | Thusly I scored lower thant the greens that grabbed superbullet and played the castle corners... and the greens that grabbed laser and played the walls.. and greens that grabbed gm and played nice sniper positions |
| 22:11.36 | inchworm | have fun and don't worry about score :) |
| 22:11.48 | spldart | All because I wanted to the reds to have a great fall... |
| 22:11.54 | spldart | I HAD FUN ;) |
| 22:12.05 | spldart | Just curious on the original query :) |
| 22:12.13 | Winny | Thumper_: oh, and I do know the ban is being written to the file. |
| 22:13.13 | Winny | do I need quotes around the BanReloadMessage? |
| 22:13.14 | Thumper_ | Winny: can you pastebin your conf and your plugins.cfg file? |
| 22:13.18 | Thumper_ | no |
| 22:13.29 | Thumper_ | don't use ~ for paths in the .cfg |
| 22:13.34 | Winny | I didn't |
| 22:14.04 | Winny | want the whole conf, or just the part(s) to do with banning? |
| 22:14.12 | Thumper_ | whatever's easier |
| 22:14.12 | inchworm | spldart: if you don't have a team.. most will just see it as the low score. the avg kid we have playing doesn't quite get the tactics :) |
| 22:14.58 | spldart | thought so.... Wasn't seeing alot of enlightenment in my team of rag tag fugitives... |
| 22:15.13 | spldart | Well.. one or two outta 12 |
| 22:15.17 | spldart | maybe |
| 22:15.32 | Winny | Thumper_: http://pastebin.ca/797321 |
| 22:15.49 | spldart | I kept jumping out and trying to hold some middle ground but nobody ever followed.... almost ever |
| 22:16.06 | spldart | Or jumping out and taking out a guy or two to try and own some land |
| 22:16.18 | Winny | I know update-masterbans.sh isn't working, but that should't effect it |
| 22:17.07 | Thumper_ | Winny: looks okay |
| 22:17.17 | Winny | Thumper_: hmm |
| 22:17.17 | Thumper_ | when you add a ban |
| 22:17.24 | Thumper_ | can you see the ban in the banfile ? |
| 22:17.37 | Winny | yes |
| 22:17.51 | Thumper_ | ie not via a bzflag client |
| 22:18.15 | Winny | http://bzflagr.net/bans/networkbans.txt |
| 22:18.42 | Winny | thats the live file, its a symlink to the actual banfile in /bzflag/bancontrol/banfiles/networkbans.txt |
| 22:18.57 | Thumper_ | is the plugin using the symlink or the real file? |
| 22:19.01 | Winny | real file |
| 22:19.16 | Thumper_ | (although that shouldn't matter) |
| 22:19.22 | Winny | in plugins.cfg "/bzflag/bancontrol/banfiles/networkbans.txt" |
| 22:20.28 | Winny | does plugins.cfg and serverControl.so need to be in the same dir? |
| 22:20.36 | Thumper_ | all the plugin tries to do is check mtime of that file |
| 22:20.53 | Thumper_ | and if it's newer (aka different) than the last time it looked |
| 22:20.56 | Thumper_ | it does a /reload bans |
| 22:21.14 | Winny | hmm |
| 22:21.39 | Thumper_ | you should be able to trigger reloads by just touching the file |
| 22:21.43 | Thumper_ | w/o changing the contents |
| 22:22.19 | Winny | hmm... |
| 22:22.34 | Winny | this a long shot, but |
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| 22:23.15 | Winny | my masterbans.txt file doesn't have any spaces between the reason for the ban, and the IP of the next ban |
| 22:23.28 | Winny | oh, hello |
| 22:23.35 | Winny | yay for spelling mistakes... |
| 22:24.30 | Winny | in plugins.cfg I had masterban.txt, not masterbanS.txt |
| 22:24.30 | Thumper_ | it should complain |
| 22:24.30 | Thumper_ | when you load the plugin if it can't find the file |
| 22:25.15 | Thumper_ | unless you have TWO files... |
| 22:25.29 | Thumper_ | and you're using different ones |
| 22:25.46 | Winny | no, there is only masterbans.txt |
| 22:26.09 | Thumper_ | heh |
| 22:26.59 | Thumper_ | Winny: you didn't read the log did you... :) |
| 22:29.47 | Thumper_ | does it work any better now? use touch FILENAME to test if it sees changes to teh file |
| 22:29.52 | Thumper_ | you should get the reload message each time |
| 22:30.12 | Thumper_ | then if that works you can test with real ban/unban changes to teh file and verify they propagate correctly |
| 22:30.27 | Winny | I bet running /loadplugin /path/to/serverControl.so,/path/to/plugins.cfg in game won't work, eh? |
| 22:30.39 | Thumper_ | why not? |
| 22:30.49 | Thumper_ | and you can drop the .so |
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| 22:34.13 | Winny | why would removing the .so do anything? |
| 22:34.24 | Thumper_ | it doesn't |
| 22:34.32 | Thumper_ | it looks for .so if you don't specify it |
| 22:34.35 | Thumper_ | so it's optional |
| 22:34.52 | Thumper_ | it's just easier to type in game without the .so |
| 22:34.54 | Thumper_ | :) |
| 22:35.13 | a_meteorite | windows looks for .dll by the way |
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| 22:35.21 | a_meteorite | hi Saturos |
| 22:35.22 | Winny | hmm, I did loadplugin, and it still won't sync |
| 22:35.26 | Winny | did it on both servers |
| 22:36.24 | Saturos | hey a_meteorite |
| 22:36.41 | Thumper_ | Winny: check your log for obvious errors first |
| 22:37.06 | Winny | alright |
| 22:37.41 | Winny | yay, errors |
| 22:37.44 | Saturos | question for the devs: I'm trying to start BZFlag from a terminal (Mac OS X.5.1) with a specific config.. it starts correctly, takes the correct team, joins the correct server, but wont load the config. |
| 22:37.44 | Winny | brb.. |
| 22:37.52 | Saturos | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:38.04 | Saturos | And yes, the file is in place. |
| 22:38.50 | Saturos | I guess I am missing something overly obvious.. but I am just not getting it. |
| 22:39.02 | LongDon | Try removing the " and replace the space between Application Support woth "\ " |
| 22:39.12 | LongDon | with* |
| 22:39.18 | Saturos | I think I already did that, but I'll try again. |
| 22:39.26 | Thumper_ | Saturos: -configdir and -config maybe? |
| 22:40.24 | Saturos | like -configdir "/Users/harrykeller/Library/Application Support/BZFlag/2.0/Saturos.cfg" -config Saturos.cfg? |
| 22:41.02 | Saturos | ah, configdir without the file |
| 22:41.06 | Saturos | I'll just try it. |
| 22:41.07 | Thumper_ | maybe -configdir "/Users/harrykeller/Library/Application Support/BZFlag/2.0" -config Sautros.cfg |
| 22:41.16 | Saturos | ya, thats what I meant. :) |
| 22:41.18 | Thumper_ | w/o the typo |
| 22:41.43 | Thumper_ | I've never used it - so that's just a guess |
| 22:44.02 | Saturos | Good guess it seems. Works perfectly. :) |
| 22:45.31 | Saturos | I'm writing a little java application that lets you choose one of five predefined config-files. Need it because several different people play on my laptop and I am sick of re-adjusting all the settings. |
| 22:45.34 | Saturos | Thanks for your help guys! |
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| 22:57.00 | SpazzyMcGee | pointless? http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=11808&highlight= |
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| 23:04.44 | Winny | Thumper_: here's the error, with the accompanying plugins.cfg |
| 23:04.45 | Winny | http://pastebin.ca/797366 |
| 23:06.01 | Thumper_ | Winny: looks to me like you blew the config file path |
| 23:06.16 | Winny | doesn't look so :/ |
| 23:07.15 | Thumper_ | it's processing a config file that doesn't match what you posted |
| 23:08.44 | Winny | I did not blow the path, and I still get an error |
| 23:08.57 | Winny | Player Winny [22] -> All: /loadplugin /bzflag/builds/2.0.x/lib/serverControl,/bzflag/bancontrol/plugins.cfg |
| 23:11.21 | Winny | copying the path from SSH yields /bzflag/bancontrol/plugins.cfg |
| 23:12.00 | Thumper_ | hmmm have you changed teh plugins.cfg file at all since you posted it? |
| 23:12.08 | Winny | nope |
| 23:12.20 | Winny | the one I posted along with the error is the current file |
| 23:12.42 | Thumper_ | was that the whole file you posted? |
| 23:12.46 | Winny | yes |
| 23:12.49 | Thumper_ | ok that's the problem |
| 23:12.56 | Thumper_ | add the section to the top |
| 23:13.00 | Thumper_ | [ServerControl[ |
| 23:13.04 | Thumper_ | [ServerControl] * |
| 23:13.10 | Winny | oh... |
| 23:13.12 | Thumper_ | so the key = value pairs apply to that section |
| 23:13.16 | Winny | someone lart me |
| 23:13.17 | Thumper_ | (not global) |
| 23:14.01 | Winny | I didn't see that |
| 23:14.14 | Winny | as in, the [ServerControl[ |
| 23:14.37 | Thumper_ | you can have a config file per plugin, or you can have a shared config file for many plugins |
| 23:14.44 | Thumper_ | the plugins find their settings by section that applies to them |
| 23:15.04 | Thumper_ | so serverControl looks in the [ServerControl] section |
| 23:15.08 | Winny | add both of those lines to the config, at the top? |
| 23:15.11 | Thumper_ | logDetail would look in the [LogDetail] section etc |
| 23:15.17 | Thumper_ | both? |
| 23:15.32 | Winny | <Thumper_> [ServerControl[ |
| 23:15.32 | Winny | <Thumper_> [ServerControl] * |
| 23:15.32 | Thumper_ | it's one line |
| 23:15.37 | Thumper_ | no |
| 23:15.38 | Thumper_ | just |
| 23:15.41 | Thumper_ | [ServerControl] |
| 23:15.45 | Thumper_ | I typoed the first one |
| 23:15.58 | Winny | oh |
| 23:16.21 | Thumper_ | seriously - look at the example plugins.cfg in the source dir |
| 23:16.29 | Winny | I am now |
| 23:16.30 | Thumper_ | it's a working config |
| 23:20.28 | Winny | ~Thumper_++ |
| 23:20.31 | Winny | ~Winny-- |
| 23:24.17 | Winny | Thanks for the help.. |
| 23:24.23 | Winny | feel free to lart at will |
| 23:27.04 | a_meteorite | ~lart Winny |
| 23:27.04 | ibot | moos at Winny |
| 23:28.15 | polydektes | what is the default world size for a map? |
| 23:28.19 | polydektes | is it 400 ? |
| 23:28.35 | Winny | 400 radius |
| 23:28.44 | Thumper_ | um it's a square |
| 23:28.44 | Winny | so if you do a /set _worldSize, it should be 800 |
| 23:28.58 | polydektes | oh ok ... so 800 |
| 23:29.01 | Winny | Thumper_: yeah, I probably should have said 1/2 |
| 23:29.09 | polydektes | wow can you do that in mid-game Winny ? |
| 23:29.16 | Winny | if you're doing world options, it should be world; size 400; end |
| 23:29.34 | Thumper_ | polydektes: yes you can change it but things don't move |
| 23:29.46 | Thumper_ | it'll change the outter walls probably but not the map objects |
| 23:30.08 | Winny | but its sorta buggy, IIRC. if you change it, it'll kick you when you drive out of the old size |
| 23:30.28 | Thumper_ | it's probably only set in the client on join |
| 23:30.39 | polydektes | ok |
| 23:31.15 | polydektes | i notice though with bzedit it doesnt allow you to set a world size |
| 23:31.39 | Thumper_ | bzedit is old IIRC |
| 23:31.57 | polydektes | yeah what's new? |
| 23:31.59 | Winny | s/IIRC/FYI |
| 23:32.02 | polydektes | besides the modlers |
| 23:32.10 | Winny | BZWB is coming out... eventually |
| 23:32.22 | polydektes | any way to get a dev version of that? |
| 23:32.38 | Winny | it only supports 1.0 objects ATM |
| 23:33.12 | polydektes | a way to get it though? |
| 23:33.25 | polydektes | googleing turns up nothing |
| 23:33.27 | Winny | its in SVN |
| 23:33.49 | polydektes | ah hah found a link |
| 23:34.09 | polydektes | oh shoot no binaries |
| 23:34.11 | polydektes | that sucketh |
| 23:34.15 | polydektes | im using windows |
| 23:34.33 | Thumper_ | Winny: it seems to have logs of mesh* objects defined - that's no 1.0 |
| 23:34.36 | Thumper_ | not* |
| 23:34.50 | Winny | you can only add 1.0 objects in the editor last I heard |
| 23:35.20 | Winny | IE: it can only render 1.0 stuff |
| 23:37.23 | polydektes | hmm it doesnt seem to allow you to edit any object you set in place |
| 23:37.26 | polydektes | not ready yet |
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