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| 00:02.10 | nn-main | how do you compile ProxcimityMine |
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| 00:03.52 | nn-main | is there a way to auto generate a configre file |
| 00:04.47 | JeffM | plug-ins needs the main bz build system |
| 00:04.51 | JeffM | you copy the dir |
| 00:05.03 | JeffM | add the filders to the automake and autoconfs |
| 00:05.06 | JeffM | then rerun autogen |
| 00:05.11 | JeffM | then configure |
| 00:05.14 | JeffM | then make |
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| 00:05.30 | JeffM | hah, you got one? |
| 00:05.45 | nn-main | how do i add the folder to the auto make and autoconfs |
| 00:05.51 | JeffM | with a text editor |
| 00:06.07 | JeffM | search for the names of another plugiin in the makefile.am and config.ac |
| 00:06.13 | nn-main | which file do i edit with the text editer |
| 00:06.16 | blast007_nokia | JeffM: hehe... N800 :) |
| 00:06.16 | JeffM | and just add the new dir name in the same way |
| 00:06.19 | JeffM | ahh |
| 00:06.33 | Constitution | *configure.ac |
| 00:06.34 | nn-main | ok thanks |
| 00:06.40 | nn-main | oh ok |
| 00:11.41 | nn-main | Simple-Stats onily has a c file and no make file ? |
| 00:12.18 | nn-main | and fair ctf has onily Makefile.am Makefile.in |
| 00:12.37 | nn-main | how do i insert thoes ?> |
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| 00:14.40 | Constitution | cd to plugins and do "sh newplug.sh SimpleStats", then copy SimpleStats.cpp into that directory |
| 00:17.50 | nn-main | what about fair ctf ? |
| 00:18.02 | Constitution | same thing, with the different name |
| 00:18.42 | blast007_nokia | or follow the directions at the of newplug.sh |
| 00:19.10 | blast007_nokia | it's not all automatic anyway |
| 00:19.45 | nn-main | ok |
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| 00:34.44 | F687s | how much burning would be required for newplug.sh to be fully automated? |
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| 00:36.48 | brlcad | F687s: too much otherwise it would have been done already |
| 00:36.58 | F687s | ah |
| 00:37.19 | brlcad | if you're writing code, even if it's a plugin, it's expected that reading a few source and build system files isn't too much effort so that you understand how it works |
| 00:38.39 | F687s | I see newplug.sh just copies the files from SAMPLE_PLUGIN |
| 00:39.20 | F687s | I agree, though, it would be quite challenging and fragile to be able to do everything automatically. |
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| 00:54.43 | Ragzouken | Hello |
| 00:55.03 | blast007_nokia | hi |
| 00:55.27 | Ragzouken | is this the right place to ask about bzflag mapping? |
| 00:55.44 | Winny | here, or ##bzw |
| 00:55.50 | Ragzouken | I'm having trouble linking my teleporters properly |
| 00:56.14 | Winny | pastebin it |
| 00:56.44 | blast007_nokia | ~bzpastebin |
| 00:56.45 | ibot | extra, extra, read all about it, bzpastebin is http://pastebin.bzflag.bz or a place to put large chunks of text so as not to flood a channel |
| 00:57.26 | Ragzouken | well I uploaded what I have so far, it's rather large, the gist is that each teleporter is called Arcport[somenumber], I can link them fine with just to Arcport* from Arcport*, but if I use the specific [somenumbers] the links don't work at all. http://dump.ragzouken.com/map.bzw |
| 00:57.55 | Winny | IIRC there were issues with numbers in teles... or something like that |
| 00:58.02 | Winny | also, make sure there are no spaces in the names |
| 00:59.09 | Ragzouken | I'll trying converting their names to letters then |
| 01:01.35 | Ragzouken | :D I accidentally converted them to control characters and got an almost festive tune when I printed them to the terminal :> |
| 01:02.33 | Winny | hehe |
| 01:08.06 | Ragzouken | :< it doesn't seem to have helped |
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| 01:18.00 | blast007_nokia | Ragzouken: you have to define the side for the 'from' part of the link too |
| 01:18.15 | Ragzouken | oh |
| 01:18.35 | Ragzouken | can I put :* ? |
| 01:18.38 | nn-main | for some strange reason bzfs is not being built with ./configure |
| 01:18.49 | blast007_nokia | not sure Ragzouken |
| 01:19.18 | Constitution | nn-main: that does not build it, it "configures" it, hence the name |
| 01:19.24 | blast007_nokia | nn-main: care to elaborate? |
| 01:19.43 | nn-main | shure brb |
| 01:19.50 | Ragzouken | blast007_nokia, you can it seems, thanks :D |
| 01:19.59 | blast007_nokia | cool |
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| 01:20.17 | nn-server | BZFlag-2.0.11.20071222 with the following: |
| 01:20.21 | nn-server | curses: -lncurses |
| 01:20.26 | nn-server | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:20.31 | nn-server | bzadmin |
| 01:20.39 | nn-server | bzflag client |
| 01:20.46 | nn-server | no mention to bzfs ? |
| 01:21.05 | blast007_nokia | it always builds it |
| 01:21.39 | blast007_nokia | doesn't mention it in 2.0.x at least |
| 01:22.12 | nn-server | make seems to zip through built with out making a thing ? do I need to give make a speial option |
| 01:22.25 | Winny | ./autogen.sh |
| 01:22.31 | Winny | ./configure --your-options |
| 01:22.32 | Winny | make |
| 01:22.33 | Winny | make install |
| 01:22.52 | Winny | make sure you have all the libs that you need as well |
| 01:23.11 | nn-server | done auto gen works .... configure looks like it works and make dosen't do a thing!!!! |
| 01:23.29 | Winny | have you built BZFlag on this machine before? |
| 01:24.23 | nn-server | yes using this same directory before i added the tun of plugins i wanted it to compile |
| 01:25.42 | nn-server | ok so i did make clean |
| 01:25.50 | nn-server | now its doing somthing |
| 01:47.06 | nn-server | What !!!!! i told it to make the extra plugins and it dosent !!!! |
| 01:47.18 | Winny | you obviously didn't then |
| 01:47.53 | Constitution | nn-main: did you re-autogen? |
| 01:48.34 | Constitution | nn-server, that is |
| 01:49.03 | nn-server | after a make clean I have to re run auto gen |
| 01:49.44 | spldart | you do? |
| 01:49.51 | Constitution | no you don't, but you have to re-run autogen to update the configure files with the new plugins |
| 01:49.59 | spldart | ah |
| 01:50.00 | spldart | yeah |
| 01:55.08 | blast007_nokia | nn-server: did you edit the build system files that newplug.sh told you to edit? |
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| 02:12.32 | inchworm | brlcad: there seems to be an issue with the .10 rc3 client where the tank doesn't "squash" when going forward, but does going back |
| 02:13.03 | nn-server | blast007, what build files; if your talking about configure.ac then yes |
| 02:14.05 | inchworm | brlcad: or at least it doesn't squash the same way as the previous clients |
| 02:14.38 | inchworm | brlcad: drunk driver and myself are noticing this on loumans lasermania w/ regard to the clocktowers |
| 02:14.49 | spldart | ooOOoo... I like the announce on PM on BB when joining global @ server |
| 02:15.16 | DTRemenak | :) |
| 02:17.10 | Macrosoft | Winny: can you put a tank in your "rat's nest" screenies so we can tell the size of the objects? |
| 02:17.39 | Winny | Macrosoft: they crates are 6 units square |
| 02:17.45 | Winny | the map is about 300x600 |
| 02:17.55 | Macrosoft | ok |
| 02:18.07 | Winny | the tall towers are 60 |
| 02:18.42 | Winny | anyways... bb in a few hours |
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| 02:56.04 | nn-server | i need some help with an error i don't know how to fix |
| 02:56.08 | nn-server | source/MineCommand.cpp:271: instantiated from here |
| 02:56.08 | nn-server | /usr/include/boost/ptr_container/detail/reversible_ptr_container.hpp:270: error: exception handling disabled, use -fexceptions to enable |
| 02:56.08 | nn-server | make: *** [ProximityMine_la-MineCommand.lo] Error 1 |
| 02:56.39 | a_meteorite | make sure you're using the proper Makefile.am |
| 02:56.49 | nn-server | ? |
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| 02:58.38 | nn-server | It is the correct one but still wont work |
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| 02:59.55 | nn-server | lib_LTLIBRARIES = ProximityMine.la |
| 03:00.03 | JeffM | naw seems like they used bost |
| 03:00.05 | JeffM | you need boost |
| 03:00.17 | nn-server | i have boost |
| 03:00.28 | a_meteorite | he has boost, it just has -fno-exceptions |
| 03:00.38 | a_meteorite | find and replace -fno-exceptions in the makefiles for -fexceptions |
| 03:00.40 | JeffM | you need to turn that on |
| 03:00.44 | JeffM | yeah |
| 03:00.55 | JeffM | that would be a non standard plug-in |
| 03:00.57 | nn-server | which make file |
| 03:01.00 | JeffM | tho boost == awesomesauce |
| 03:01.05 | JeffM | nn-server, all of them |
| 03:01.11 | a_meteorite | makes a lot of things easier, JeffM :) |
| 03:01.22 | JeffM | and better |
| 03:01.42 | a_meteorite | yup, less debugging for simple stuff... get down to what your app is really about |
| 03:02.05 | a_meteorite | plus you get a lot of cool functionality without wasting your time on that simple stuff |
| 03:02.22 | JeffM | you need to make sure you know how it works tho |
| 03:03.08 | a_meteorite | oh boy |
| 03:04.46 | nn-server | Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks a tun guys!!! |
| 03:05.17 | JeffM | decaf, seriously |
| 03:05.45 | Macrosoft | mmm... i can has exclamation marks? |
| 03:06.08 | JeffM | yes |
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| 03:06.29 | JeffM2501 | :D |
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| 03:52.08 | F687s | nn strikes again! |
| 03:52.19 | blast007_nokia | ? |
| 03:52.36 | F687s | tip to server owners: don't edit their users' config files. |
| 03:52.59 | blast007_nokia | uh, ok? |
| 03:54.08 | F687s | he went into my server config files (bzfs -conf), and edited them in ways I didn't want |
| 03:54.17 | blast007_nokia | it's their server, and unlikely being paid for by the users |
| 03:54.51 | F687s | yes, but you should at least post a notification that you're doing something |
| 03:55.01 | F687s | the server doesn't even have a mail command |
| 03:55.16 | a_meteorite | a mail command? |
| 03:55.33 | F687s | yes, like 'mail root' |
| 03:55.43 | a_meteorite | thought you meant bzfs, heh |
| 03:57.17 | blast007_nokia | F687s: that's between nn and you |
| 03:57.37 | F687s | wish me luck hunting him down. |
| 03:57.46 | a_meteorite | try bzbb pm |
| 03:58.38 | a_meteorite | what sort of hosting plans? |
| 03:58.49 | a_meteorite | we are getting our server soon and will be selling shell accounts |
| 03:59.05 | F687s | something that provides mainly port access |
| 03:59.15 | a_meteorite | port access? |
| 03:59.29 | a_meteorite | like, physical access to the server? |
| 03:59.42 | F687s | like, a port range |
| 03:59.50 | a_meteorite | right |
| 04:00.01 | a_meteorite | we'll be implementing a limit of how many servers and bandwidth |
| 04:00.07 | a_meteorite | but it'll be reasonable |
| 04:00.35 | a_meteorite | we haven't got the server yet, but they say it should be coming in another 5 days or so (minus Christmas, etc) |
| 04:01.23 | F687s | what organization is it for? |
| 04:02.31 | a_meteorite | BZFX |
| 04:02.41 | blast007_nokia | the RIAA, I mean, BZFX |
| 04:03.15 | a_meteorite | at least we're not nazis... yes, that RIAA lurker can sue me! |
| 04:03.15 | F687s | how much is your planned cost for shell accounts? |
| 04:03.55 | AAA_awright | Start of January is our expected launch, visit #bzfx for the details |
| 04:05.34 | a_meteorite | F687s: we're still not exactly 100% sure, but in the range of $5 for 5 ports... somewhere like 1Mbit bandwidth... |
| 04:05.52 | a_meteorite | plus web space and all the other goodies |
| 04:06.05 | a_meteorite | we can work with you for more bandwidth for less ports for a bit more money or whatever. |
| 04:06.55 | a_meteorite | discussing this in #bzfx would be ideal, F687s |
| 04:09.32 | F687s | cool, thanks |
| 04:10.39 | a_meteorite | blast007_nokia: you scared him off BOTH channels! :o |
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| 06:25.23 | brlcad | inchworm: thanks for the report.. |
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| 16:13.45 | Thumper_ | ~donny_baker++ |
| 16:14.36 | Thumper_ | karma donny_baker |
| 16:14.43 | Thumper_ | ~donny_baker++ |
| 16:15.26 | donny_baker | ~karma |
| 16:15.26 | ibot | donny_baker has karma of 65 |
| 16:15.29 | Winny | ~donny_baker++ |
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| 16:28.20 | inchworm | brlcad: i was observer for drunk when i reported the squish issue. Today I played on Lasermania a bit and tried to recreate the issues. I didn't notice not being able to drive forward out of the top of the tower the same as drunk did. I'll investigate some more, but I'm not quite sure what's happening now |
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| 17:31.15 | Thumper_ | ~donny_baker++ |
| 17:31.31 | Thumper_ | ~karma donny_baker |
| 17:31.31 | ibot | donny_baker has karma of 67 |
| 17:40.27 | brlcad | ~bzflist |
| 17:40.37 | brlcad | no wonder.. |
| 17:41.20 | brlcad | this is the heaviest real load we've had in a long time.. |
| 17:41.54 | Thumper_ | too bad real life interferes with bzflag :) |
| 17:42.02 | brlcad | folks must be enjoying their weekend before christmas with a little bzflaggin' |
| 17:51.40 | brlcad | server is responding to a sustained rate of 5 requests per second, with bursts up to 4x that (5 min sample) |
| 17:52.01 | brlcad | fun fun |
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| 18:11.58 | KTL | cool:) |
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| 19:11.59 | Winny | ~33+26 |
| 19:11.59 | ibot | 59 |
| 19:12.02 | Winny | yes! |
| 19:12.11 | Winny | ~bzflist |
| 19:12.21 | Winny | darn |
| 19:13.33 | Winny | brlcad: how much ram does the listserver have? |
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| 20:28.44 | jftsang | good evening |
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| 20:32.51 | jftsang | Hi all |
| 20:35.48 | jftsang | who thinks it may be feasible to have a BZWar (for want of a better word) -- a competition between the europeans, asians and americans who play BZFlag |
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| 20:36.31 | AAA_Awright | Hm. |
| 20:36.33 | SpazzyMcGee | I think hello arguments over timings of matches. |
| 20:36.43 | AAA_Awright | Yeah |
| 20:36.45 | jftsang | and possibly lag |
| 20:36.48 | AAA_Awright | Lag, time zones |
| 20:37.08 | jftsang | probably, if we have three matches, one in europe, one in asia, one in america.. |
| 20:37.55 | SpazzyMcGee | Home and away matches. |
| 20:38.07 | jftsang | Well, it works for football |
| 20:38.11 | SpazzyMcGee | You could design a special 3-way map. |
| 20:38.20 | AAA_Awright | Is there a better way to divide players, usually players fit into natural camps, the programmers, silent play-till-you-die people, the geno whores, network loyals (Mofo/BZFX/NoRang/BZFlagr/...) |
| 20:39.04 | ruskie | the server loyals :) |
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| 20:46.22 | JeffM | ahh yes, avatar fun |
| 20:48.10 | SpazzyMcGee | What was up with his avatar? |
| 20:48.32 | AHA | JeffM: what is wrong with him now? |
| 20:49.29 | JeffM | he's an as |
| 20:49.31 | JeffM | ass |
| 20:49.36 | SpazzyMcGee | He was mouthing off in a map thread I think. |
| 20:51.55 | JeffM | indeed |
| 21:13.46 | brlcad | fg |
| 21:14.04 | Thumper_ | no such processfg: current: no such job |
| 21:14.09 | brlcad | :) |
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| 21:26.27 | brad | jftsang: did you see GU did that sorta thing before? EU vs US, 10v10 |
| 21:26.42 | jftsang | brad: mm, i was not aware of this |
| 21:27.12 | brad | http://rikercup.bzflagr.net/ |
| 21:28.10 | brad | servers were totally full (20 players, 30 obs) at 1 point |
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| 21:32.49 | KTL | ah bweu it is without flags |
| 21:35.51 | KTL | Winny, "Now, bans propagate across all BZFlagr servers. So, don’t be a moron, or you won’t be able to play anywhere " -> is every type of ban automatically like this? what if someone sets up his public server and bans just everyone he wants to ban from his machine, with as a result that those players get banned everywhere? |
| 21:39.22 | AAA_Awright | KTL: Servers only ban people they want. You can set up a server to ban people banned on another server, like BZFlagr |
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| 21:39.31 | AAA_Awright | *does |
| 21:44.01 | KTL | oki |
| 21:45.27 | jftsang | oh, I recently joined the GU league and apparently I must get an admin to add me to a certian group |
| 21:45.57 | brad | bzmail quantum dot, birdie or menotume asking to be added |
| 21:46.27 | Joss | jftsang: yeah, pm Bridle or mentume to ask to be added |
| 21:46.31 | Joss | brad.... |
| 21:46.35 | brad | joss :) |
| 21:46.51 | brad | "bridle" :P |
| 21:47.01 | Joss | ups |
| 21:47.05 | Joss | sorry |
| 21:47.21 | Joss | silly typing |
| 21:47.41 | Joss | and by the way... im Joss not "joss" :P |
| 21:48.13 | brad | my bad |
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| 21:50.28 | jftsang | sigonasr2: you there? |
| 21:58.45 | sigonasr2 | jftsang: hello |
| 21:59.01 | jftsang | you know your football, basketball maps |
| 21:59.16 | sigonasr2 | I only have 4: soccer, bzbasket, tennis, hockey |
| 21:59.23 | jftsang | you have a hockey :O |
| 21:59.30 | AHA | hockey is fun |
| 21:59.31 | jftsang | i was about to suggest that :P |
| 21:59.35 | sigonasr2 | I see |
| 21:59.44 | jftsang | ice hockey, or hockey on grass |
| 21:59.48 | sigonasr2 | Let's just say, it's been suggested enough ;) |
| 21:59.50 | sigonasr2 | ice hockey |
| 22:00.46 | sigonasr2 | They're all on twilight using a changemap plugin and keepalive scripts |
| 22:00.58 | sigonasr2 | They're not all separate servers |
| 22:02.55 | jftsang | ok |
| 22:03.03 | jftsang | do the maps use plugins themselves? |
| 22:03.12 | jftsang | i was thinking of making a sport map myself |
| 22:03.13 | Joss | no |
| 22:03.23 | Joss | it set up in the server |
| 22:03.26 | sigonasr2 | The maps are based on using map features to get by using a plugin |
| 22:03.26 | jftsang | so, just flag, goals, thieves |
| 22:03.28 | jftsang | :) |
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| 22:03.49 | Joss | good luck making your map :) |
| 22:03.58 | sigonasr2 | What kind of sport are you planning on making, will it be one I have already made? |
| 22:04.17 | Joss | (why not sig...) |
| 22:05.05 | Joss | (you can always have competition) |
| 22:06.22 | sigonasr2 | I've had competition with slon02 in making bzhockey, but it was one that hasn't been created yet, not one already made. |
| 22:09.26 | Joss | ahh well, its one thing saying you will make a map but another accually making it |
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| 22:15.59 | jftsang | sigonasr2: how did you get the green flag to spawn in the centre? |
| 22:16.14 | jftsang | and im not really making a sport, more of a territory war |
| 22:16.14 | Joss | you use something called a "zone" |
| 22:16.18 | jftsang | yes |
| 22:16.20 | sigonasr2 | just a zone position 0 0 0 size 0 0 0 zoneflag G* |
| 22:16.22 | sigonasr2 | end |
| 22:16.35 | jftsang | but it seems to like to spawn at the base |
| 22:16.47 | sigonasr2 | you have to add in the zone |
| 22:17.06 | sigonasr2 | Then it won't unless you start adding in multiple G* flags |
| 22:17.35 | Joss | Hello whodaman- |
| 22:17.48 | whodaman- | hiya |
| 22:19.52 | jftsang | yep, works like a charm now |
| 22:19.58 | jftsang | i used flag instead of zoneflag earlier |
| 22:20.58 | sigonasr2 | flag is used to provide the possibility of the flag going there, not forcing it |
| 22:22.53 | jftsang | well, my map looks complete now |
| 22:23.18 | jftsang | im just pondering whether a territory war style or king of the centremap style would really be the best |
| 22:35.34 | JeffM | if radar markers get done you can do a lot more |
| 22:37.53 | jftsang | anyone know if PZ is going to be taken out of the game at any point in the future |
| 22:38.22 | JeffM | why? |
| 22:40.15 | jftsang | since nobody actually uses it much, or seriously |
| 22:40.49 | JeffM | most I could see happening is turning it into an effect |
| 22:48.26 | delusional_ | I say let it kill something, stealth maybe. |
| 22:50.46 | Winny | KTL: all BZFlagr servers share the same banlist |
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| 23:04.11 | menotume | silly jOSS |
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| 23:10.55 | jftsang | menotume: got my BzMail? |
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| 23:13.14 | menotume | jftsang: done |
| 23:13.27 | jftsang | menotume: thx |
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| 23:26.20 | jftsang | where do I download the koth dll |
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