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| 00:07.01 | delusional_ | ~shear |
| 00:07.01 | ibot | rumour has it, shear is a deformation of an object in which parallel planes remain parallel but are shifted in a direction parallel to themselves |
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| 00:53.30 | Winny | any thoughts? http://bzfusion.net/BZTextures/screenshots/bzfi1056.png |
| 00:55.12 | rtfm | just one... "that looks like a URL" |
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| 00:56.38 | JeffM | better |
| 00:56.59 | JeffM | subtract out an inner line of the red paint |
| 00:57.03 | JeffM | so it's all a double line |
| 00:57.42 | Winny | "double line" I don't see what you mean |
| 00:57.56 | JeffM | the red paint lines are too fat |
| 00:58.05 | JeffM | I assume they are on a layer? |
| 00:58.12 | Winny | yeah |
| 00:58.23 | JeffM | erase the middle of them so that the gray shows thru |
| 00:58.30 | JeffM | that will make them look like a double line |
| 00:58.34 | Winny | ahh |
| 01:02.10 | Winny | that looks.. weird |
| 01:02.33 | JeffM | k |
| 01:02.36 | JeffM | just a thought |
| 01:03.18 | Winny | brb... |
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| 01:05.34 | john131971 | Help, my sky is blinking blue, red and blue! |
| 01:05.56 | JeffM | ? |
| 01:06.06 | CBG | The effects of E should wear off in a few hours, let it pass. |
| 01:06.20 | rtfm | You are the one millionth player! You win the prize! |
| 01:06.23 | john131971 | Hey man wow |
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| 01:06.42 | JeffM | how about you calm down a bit and tell us the problem? |
| 01:06.48 | john131971 | No really, drug free |
| 01:06.58 | rtfm | john131971: do you have a screenshot of the issue? |
| 01:07.03 | JeffM | no need |
| 01:07.06 | JeffM | is it windows? |
| 01:07.11 | john131971 | I did a reformat of C |
| 01:07.19 | JeffM | yeah old drivers |
| 01:07.21 | rtfm | guess that answers that question |
| 01:07.21 | JeffM | get the current ones |
| 01:07.26 | JeffM | your on vista I take it? |
| 01:07.32 | john131971 | Yes current drivers |
| 01:07.38 | john131971 | Xp |
| 01:07.46 | JeffM | what card? |
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| 01:08.19 | john131971 | Ati x1050 dvi 1280 x1024 |
| 01:08.34 | john131971 | Fanless even |
| 01:08.35 | JeffM | you get the drivers from windows update? or ATI? |
| 01:08.51 | john131971 | Ati |
| 01:09.10 | JeffM | you have the current directX from windows update? |
| 01:09.32 | john131971 | Update doesn't show anything |
| 01:09.54 | JeffM | did you ever try to run bz wiht the "view" command line ooption? |
| 01:10.25 | john131971 | Haven't read the command line for Morons book...hehe |
| 01:10.31 | john131971 | No |
| 01:10.43 | JeffM | well sounds like drivers to me |
| 01:10.59 | JeffM | I assume it used to work fine? |
| 01:11.03 | JeffM | before your re-install |
| 01:11.08 | john131971 | Yes |
| 01:11.22 | JeffM | these the same versions of the drivers you used before? |
| 01:11.26 | rtfm | what graphics driver version do you have? |
| 01:11.44 | rtfm | a new one was released on the 20th |
| 01:12.02 | JeffM | try various graphic options |
| 01:12.05 | JeffM | blending on/off, etc.. |
| 01:12.14 | JeffM | proabably just something your card dosnt' like |
| 01:13.06 | john131971 | Could have picked up ati update from update, but I uninstalled drivers before installing new |
| 01:13.21 | john131971 | Windows update that is |
| 01:13.41 | rtfm | 7.12 is the latest from ATI |
| 01:13.45 | john131971 | Driver Packaging Version8.442-071204a1-055811C-ATI |
| 01:15.00 | john131971 | tried most of the different option and nothing seems to help, its almost like the card is overheating |
| 01:15.07 | john131971 | Catalyst® Version07.12 |
| 01:15.09 | JeffM | maybe it is |
| 01:15.21 | john131971 | Been to lazy to do a cleaning... |
| 01:15.22 | rtfm | I've never been too keen on fanless cards |
| 01:15.38 | john131971 | Sick of buying replacement fans |
| 01:16.13 | rtfm | probably gonna have to by a fan of some kind anyway ;) |
| 01:16.47 | rtfm | I slapped two 120mm fans next to my card to keep it cool |
| 01:16.53 | john131971 | hehe |
| 01:17.09 | rtfm | had a couple total crashes during games |
| 01:17.14 | rtfm | hasn't happened since then |
| 01:17.42 | john131971 | My wife plays second life and doesn't have any problems with system, thou |
| 01:18.06 | rtfm | does this happen after playing for a while, or right away? |
| 01:18.16 | john131971 | on and off |
| 01:18.34 | rtfm | you could try turning on the energy saver option in the graphics settings |
| 01:18.34 | john131971 | seems like when i'm in mid air |
| 01:18.45 | rtfm | that will clamp the FPS |
| 01:18.54 | rtfm | which might help with the overheating |
| 01:19.00 | rtfm | (if that's the issue) |
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| 01:19.35 | rtfm | you can adjust what it clamps to with /localset fpsLimit 50 (for 50FPS) |
| 01:19.50 | rtfm | that would be sent as chat while on a server |
| 01:20.01 | rtfm | and it would adjust the local variable value |
| 01:20.57 | john131971 | would should be my settings for the screen size |
| 01:21.09 | JeffM | whatever you want |
| 01:21.33 | john131971 | My desktop is 1280x1024 |
| 01:21.41 | john131971 | set bz the same |
| 01:21.43 | JeffM | then there ya go |
| 01:22.03 | john131971 | or lower it to something else |
| 01:22.19 | JeffM | only thing that affects is speed |
| 01:23.22 | john131971 | U lost me, what should it set bzflag to... |
| 01:23.28 | JeffM | whatever you want |
| 01:23.30 | JeffM | it dosn't matter |
| 01:23.42 | JeffM | all it affects is the rendering speed |
| 01:23.50 | john131971 | k |
| 01:24.14 | john131971 | Most likely my case needs a good cleaning |
| 01:24.35 | john131971 | and maybe need to reinstall drivers again |
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| 01:33.11 | john131971 | thinks |
| 01:33.20 | john131971 | bye |
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| 02:17.53 | Winny | does anyone know where the wall.png texture came from? |
| 02:18.05 | CBG | A wall. |
| 02:18.37 | Winny | hehe |
| 02:19.09 | CBG | Yes! Yes! Harder, Thumper_! More! |
| 02:19.14 | Thumper_ | eek |
| 02:19.28 | Winny | ...that was so wrong |
| 02:20.54 | a_meteorite | I am reading the wrong channel |
| 02:21.01 | Constitution | BZBB admins: have an alpha release of a plugin in "Plug-in Releases"... perhaps move to Plug-in Development? http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=11997 |
| 02:41.39 | Winny | anyone in here know much about how the bases are hardcoded into the game? |
| 02:42.06 | Winny | I'm interested in adding a bit of "3d" to them |
| 02:42.29 | Winny | what jeff? :p |
| 02:43.57 | Macrosoft | Winny: the one and only :P |
| 02:53.22 | Macrosoft | Winny: btw, what do you mean "3d"? arent they 3d already? |
| 02:53.33 | Winny | no, the tops of the bases are flat planes. |
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| 03:36.12 | spldart | Welp... I got to 8:30 pm before my ssh became unavailable cuz of ip rotation LOL |
| 03:36.45 | spldart | But I did accomplish in that 2:30 after closing time :) |
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| 04:22.06 | nn-main | Winny, Proximity mine on missle war would be AUSOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 04:23.41 | nn-main | bzfs needs a way to reload the settings ..... config file ..... and or map ... with out resetting it .... causing everyone to be kicked!!!!!!!! |
| 04:24.14 | JeffM | dude |
| 04:24.18 | JeffM | calm down |
| 04:24.23 | JeffM | it needs lots of things |
| 04:24.40 | JeffM | the current protcoll does not allow for the map to be changed while users are connected. |
| 04:24.44 | nn-main | well i think the one i mensioned is the most importent |
| 04:24.53 | JeffM | realy |
| 04:24.56 | nn-main | :( SAD |
| 04:24.58 | JeffM | more then preventing cheats |
| 04:24.59 | JeffM | nice |
| 04:25.20 | JeffM | you must be an AUCOM server admin to prioritise that one. |
| 04:26.05 | JeffM | any bzdb var can be changed at run time |
| 04:26.13 | JeffM | game type can not |
| 04:26.25 | JeffM | the public message can be changed by the API |
| 04:26.33 | JeffM | the map can not |
| 04:26.35 | nn-main | well i use a lot of servers people are constantly needing changes to configs etc i wish there was a way in the running of bzfs to atleast reload the config file |
| 04:26.39 | eTangenT | nn-main, maybe instead of whining, you can contribute to a solution! |
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| 04:27.24 | JeffM | It'd be possible to do it all |
| 04:27.35 | JeffM | a fair amount of code on the client and server would have to change. |
| 04:27.41 | nn-main | eTangenT, sory im terrable at C++ i pobably scroo up the code more than fix it lolol |
| 04:27.44 | JeffM | it just takes time |
| 04:27.52 | JeffM | nn-main: so learn |
| 04:28.15 | JeffM | or at least learn how to talk about features like an adult instead of a 5 year old |
| 04:28.23 | nn-main | well maby by the time im in collage ,,,,,,,,,,..... |
| 04:28.33 | Winny | nn-main: heh |
| 04:28.36 | JeffM | community college with spelling like that. |
| 04:28.42 | nn-main | lol |
| 04:28.46 | JeffM | yeah |
| 04:28.47 | JeffM | lol |
| 04:29.03 | nn-main | xchat needs a spell check :( |
| 04:29.09 | JeffM | it can have one |
| 04:29.14 | nn-main | g2g bed time |
| 04:29.30 | JeffM | if you return please refrain from talking like an aol kiddie |
| 04:29.31 | JeffM | seriously |
| 04:29.41 | JeffM | all you do is make yourself look worse and worse each day |
| 04:30.26 | JeffM | I think the bigest thing the game needs is a tree view for servers |
| 04:30.31 | Winny | JeffM: where in the source are the bases, and other meshes stored? I was going to try changing them if possible. |
| 04:30.38 | JeffM | so that we can cosolodate the list |
| 04:30.46 | JeffM | Winny: meshes? |
| 04:30.50 | JeffM | no meshes are stored |
| 04:30.59 | a_meteorite | Winny: it's all hard coded GL, iirc |
| 04:30.59 | JeffM | hardcode |
| 04:31.01 | Winny | like, the boxes, cylinders, teles, etcs. |
| 04:31.08 | JeffM | no meshes |
| 04:31.09 | JeffM | hardcode |
| 04:31.53 | Winny | where in the source are they defined? |
| 04:32.12 | JeffM | they don't work like you expect |
| 04:32.16 | Winny | I kow |
| 04:32.18 | Winny | know* |
| 04:32.18 | JeffM | base is derived of box |
| 04:32.31 | JeffM | you can't change them |
| 04:32.34 | JeffM | they are primitives |
| 04:32.48 | Winny | damn.. |
| 04:33.43 | spldart | pwnt |
| 04:33.56 | Winny | heh |
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| 04:35.47 | fatass | I'm afraid nn-main has a case of PEBKAC, xchat seems to work fine for me. |
| 04:38.59 | Thumper_ | ~bzflist |
| 04:44.12 | Thumper_ | nn-main: ping |
| 04:45.29 | Thumper_ | you're running a duplicate map of LouMan's Mystic Valley - at least get the name and credit right - it's not "Loman's Magical Map" |
| 04:46.00 | Winny | haha.. sorry.. but I gotta laugh at that |
| 04:47.30 | Think_Differentl | Thumper_: he did the same with Planet Mafoo! |
| 04:47.39 | Thumper_ | I know |
| 04:48.00 | Think_Differentl | poor nn, must have a severe case of typefugitis. |
| 04:48.21 | Thumper_ | 144 players, 345 maps... |
| 04:48.36 | Winny | Thumper_: we're all anti social! |
| 04:48.43 | Winny | we like to be alone :p |
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| 04:57.36 | JeffM | ok, who runs the silvercat private fourm on bzbb? |
| 04:57.40 | JeffM | didn't that server die? |
| 04:57.59 | a_meteorite | silverfox? |
| 04:58.24 | JeffM | sorry |
| 04:58.26 | JeffM | shadowcat |
| 04:58.44 | JeffM | winny wasn't that you? |
| 04:58.49 | a_meteorite | I think it was CBG |
| 04:58.52 | JeffM | ahh |
| 04:59.08 | a_meteorite | but I think Tropican8 took over the server operations, not exactly sure |
| 04:59.23 | JeffM | well purge time |
| 04:59.59 | JeffM | with the advent of weblogin I'd like to get away from doing private boards |
| 05:00.40 | F687s | doesn't phpbb have an autopurge feature? |
| 05:01.01 | JeffM | yes |
| 05:01.01 | a_meteorite | do you have any future intentions of blocking people from weblogin the same way one could get blocked from other global services (I'm speaking in general possible terms, no one person)? |
| 05:01.03 | JeffM | and it's on |
| 05:01.09 | JeffM | I mean for stuff that hasn't been used in ages |
| 05:01.10 | JeffM | or ever |
| 05:01.13 | JeffM | shadowcat was empty |
| 05:01.29 | a_meteorite | I could see for abuse, but not because of "distancing", right? |
| 05:01.37 | JeffM | a_meteorite: we have talked about a ban list for all services, and a strikes system for login |
| 05:01.48 | a_meteorite | what are the strikes composed of? |
| 05:01.53 | JeffM | currently services don't share ban lists |
| 05:02.04 | JeffM | I mean login 3 times bad, wait xxx time |
| 05:02.16 | a_meteorite | no, I mean, from certain servers, or people, linking to weblogin |
| 05:02.29 | JeffM | the strikes are not for the ban list |
| 05:02.33 | JeffM | seperate |
| 05:02.34 | AAA_awright | And notification of a bad login attempts. |
| 05:02.44 | JeffM | lots of things can be improved |
| 05:03.03 | AAA_awright | At least security is being bolted on instead of none at all :) |
| 05:03.37 | a_meteorite | I mean, let's say the official BZ part wanted to "distance" themselves from one person or group, would they extend that "distance" to include not being able to auth global accounts on that one person's or group's web site? |
| 05:03.40 | JeffM | I'm also hoping phpbb3 will let us detach a lot of things regarding logins |
| 05:04.08 | JeffM | a_meteorite: if we wante to remove public services from somone, yes weblogin would be considered a public service |
| 05:04.12 | JeffM | since it is tied to the list server. |
| 05:05.31 | JeffM | right now a machine IP ban would block weblogin |
| 05:05.39 | JeffM | and some of our bans are at a firewall level |
| 05:05.54 | JeffM | such as for moles etc.. |
| 05:09.09 | JeffM | but this is why I'd like a unified system |
| 05:09.13 | JeffM | with reasons, etc.. |
| 05:09.35 | JeffM | I'm happy that phpbb3 has reasons, but since that is only one of our public services, I think we need something better |
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| 05:20.29 | Constitution | something better than using phpbb as our auth system? |
| 05:20.39 | Constitution | or something better than phpbb in general? |
| 05:22.04 | L4m3r | I think he means that we'd need bans that work and notify globally, instead of just on bzbb |
| 05:22.18 | Constitution | ah |
| 05:22.49 | JeffM | well and a beter auth system |
| 05:22.54 | JeffM | I do LIKE phpbb3 |
| 05:22.59 | JeffM | I don't like using it for auth |
| 05:23.04 | Think_Differentl | >_> |
| 05:23.09 | JeffM | but I like it as a fourm |
| 05:23.38 | Constitution | we were looking into LDAP, right? |
| 05:23.40 | JeffM | the test setup blast did was prety freaking sweet |
| 05:23.44 | L4m3r | like I've said, phpBB is the best we're gonna get for free |
| 05:23.48 | JeffM | yeah ldap looks to be the simplest way to hook into it |
| 05:24.05 | JeffM | L4m3r: well I'm not sure that statement was true untill phpbb3 came out |
| 05:24.14 | L4m3r | yeah |
| 05:24.22 | JeffM | it's masivly better then 2 |
| 05:24.23 | L4m3r | SMF is still pretty crappy :P |
| 05:24.26 | blast007 | it's like a whole didfferent forum system |
| 05:24.27 | JeffM | in prety much every way I've seen |
| 05:24.29 | blast007 | different* |
| 05:24.36 | JeffM | yeah I can see why they did crap to 2 in the meantime |
| 05:24.50 | L4m3r | I onced adminned a BB with phpBB1 |
| 05:24.57 | L4m3r | now THAT was arful |
| 05:25.01 | L4m3r | awful* |
| 05:25.16 | Winny | JeffM: I forget if you anwsered this before... but where is the tank coded in the source? |
| 05:25.26 | L4m3r | we upgraded to vBulletin 2.x, which was much better |
| 05:25.43 | L4m3r | although it did not allow members to be in more than one group, which was an issue sometimes |
| 05:25.52 | JeffM | Winny: in the geometry dir |
| 05:25.53 | Think_Differentl | I liked punbb. |
| 05:26.00 | Winny | ah, k |
| 05:26.05 | JeffM | there are 3 sets of IIRC 5 files |
| 05:26.13 | JeffM | hitank, medtank, and lowtank |
| 05:26.27 | JeffM | each part is broken up into a single C++ file |
| 05:27.19 | JeffM | Winny: it'll be in the /src/geometry/models/ dir |
| 05:27.25 | Winny | yeah, I found it |
| 05:27.27 | Winny | thanks |
| 05:27.40 | JeffM | it's all gl calls |
| 05:28.01 | Constitution | so aside from global auth and the bzbb, I guess the only other bzflag service that will need to interface with the data directly will be... the wiki? |
| 05:28.12 | Winny | when it says "doVertex3f(4.940f, 0.0f, 1.410f);" for example, those are just x,y,z I assume? |
| 05:28.13 | JeffM | not exactly |
| 05:28.13 | Constitution | does the image submitter use weblogin? |
| 05:28.14 | JeffM | wiki |
| 05:28.18 | JeffM | image submiter |
| 05:28.21 | JeffM | stats |
| 05:28.25 | JeffM | main website |
| 05:28.26 | Constitution | oh, right |
| 05:28.33 | JeffM | group manager |
| 05:28.35 | blast007 | stats doesn't do anything with auth right now though ;) |
| 05:28.42 | JeffM | no but it should :) |
| 05:28.52 | blast007 | it used to, actually |
| 05:28.55 | JeffM | it should have a link to the global account for gloobal users |
| 05:29.00 | blast007 | maybe back when jzuan had it |
| 05:29.14 | blast007 | I know in 1.7 days you could register on it |
| 05:29.26 | blast007 | and I had one that was all hacked up even further |
| 05:30.15 | JeffM | optimialy we'd have a well defined API to our auth system |
| 05:30.45 | JeffM | so that the installer and game can also use it to register people |
| 05:30.58 | JeffM | if we make it easer to register then it makes auth based admin work a lot better |
| 05:31.39 | L4m3r | we also have to find a way to secure registration |
| 05:32.00 | L4m3r | we don't want people writing a proggy to register dozens of accounts in minutes :P |
| 05:32.08 | blast007 | CAPTCHA |
| 05:32.27 | blast007 | find some way to request the image via the API |
| 05:32.48 | AAA_awright | Recaptcha ftw! |
| 05:32.49 | blast007 | and do stuff such as limiting the number of registrations per IP per set period of time |
| 05:33.01 | AAA_awright | Email confirmation should work |
| 05:33.10 | AAA_awright | ...doesn't it? |
| 05:33.20 | blast007 | AAA_awright: well, that would be harder to do in the client (Recaptcha is flash based, right?) |
| 05:33.29 | AAA_awright | No, HTML |
| 05:33.47 | blast007 | hmm, guess not |
| 05:33.59 | blast007 | still doesn't make it any easier ;) |
| 05:34.03 | AAA_awright | It comes with a very simple API and Javascript/HTML cut and paste, but you can implement your own front end. |
| 05:34.15 | blast007 | are we going to embed the Gecko engine into bzflag too? ;) |
| 05:34.18 | AAA_awright | Plus I like their scholarly goals. |
| 05:35.59 | AAA_awright | I prefer registration code out of the client, I think the current system works well enough. |
| 05:36.19 | Constitution | hmm, and then we should keep a multi-node auth system in mind for the long run |
| 05:37.32 | blast007 | Constitution: that's the good part about an API |
| 05:37.48 | blast007 | we can change how stuff works in the backend, and the API will still work |
| 05:38.12 | AAA_awright | Regristration shouldn't have an API, that makes it too easy to register accounts, the exact opposite of what you want! |
| 05:40.53 | JeffM | API for authing I mean |
| 05:41.23 | JeffM | and if your not reged it can send you to the page where you can reg |
| 05:41.29 | AAA_awright | There is a very simple API for authing, many people have implemented it already |
| 05:41.34 | JeffM | yes |
| 05:41.40 | JeffM | and we should keep that ;) |
| 05:41.45 | JeffM | and maybe make it more simple |
| 06:02.38 | spldart | Is there a way to automate e2fsck -f on all 8 drives in my server? |
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| 06:02.45 | spldart | I mean yikes! |
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| 13:34.24 | donny_baker | if there would be some integration of reCaptcha into the login process |
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| 13:34.53 | donny_baker | bzflag.org already has private keys, I obtained them for the wiki |
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| 14:27.18 | AAA_awright | Captchas for logging in? Oh, please no! |
| 14:27.28 | AAA_awright | You only need to prove you are a human once. |
| 14:31.08 | spldart | Nobody here but us Timelords. |
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| 16:04.13 | donny_baker | AAA_awright: the reCaptchas would be for registering... not for every login... and maybe if you used the wrong password |
| 16:26.43 | F687s | what would be the likelihood of adding bzfs settings as server variables in the near future, like "/set _ricochet 1" ? |
| 16:28.38 | AAA_awright | F687s: Very likely |
| 16:36.14 | whodaman- | wee |
| 16:36.28 | AAA_awright | ~joke |
| 16:36.28 | ibot | What's a chicken coupe with 4 doors - a Chicken Sedan! |
| 16:36.39 | Winny | oh dear |
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| 18:00.32 | blast007 | nice |
| 18:00.39 | donny_baker | Winny: code it up ;) |
| 18:01.01 | donny_baker | hehe |
| 18:13.21 | L4m3r | Winny: round radar and mousebox has been done |
| 18:13.30 | L4m3r | most of the work is probably in hudrenderer.cxx |
| 18:13.46 | L4m3r | I'm sure it's possible :P |
| 18:14.02 | Winny | L4m3r: as in, done (commited) or done by youknowwho and not commitied? |
| 18:14.13 | L4m3r | the latter |
| 18:14.24 | Winny | ah ;P |
| 18:14.34 | L4m3r | your layout wastes a lot of screen real estate, though :P |
| 18:15.33 | Winny | if I knew how to work in C++ (working on that one...), it would be cool if I could do something where the user could arrange all the panels and stuff |
| 18:15.53 | AAA_awright | The mouse box should be a box |
| 18:16.02 | Winny | AAA_awright: why? |
| 18:16.10 | F687s | otherwise it would be called a mouse polygon? |
| 18:16.13 | AAA_awright | The tanks drive with a differential, not two independent wheels. |
| 18:16.26 | Winny | uh, so? |
| 18:16.34 | JeffM | AAA_awright: the mouse box will probalby be removed |
| 18:16.43 | AAA_awright | Replaced with what? |
| 18:16.45 | JeffM | and replaced with axis markers and a sight |
| 18:16.57 | JeffM | so that there is one common input feedback system for all input methods |
| 18:17.23 | AAA_awright | I thought it was pretty common |
| 18:17.28 | JeffM | that shows current speed in that axis and the desired speed, so you can see how accelleration affects you |
| 18:17.32 | F687s | that might be useful for people using things other than a mouse |
| 18:17.38 | JeffM | there is no visual feedback for keys and joysticks |
| 18:17.57 | Winny | JeffM: any thoughts on that thng? |
| 18:17.59 | JeffM | nor is there any feedback for when you want to go one speed, but are not going that fast due to acceleration limits |
| 18:18.03 | AAA_awright | Yah there is, you see movment |
| 18:18.22 | JeffM | Winny: round radar is not meant to be that big |
| 18:18.23 | F687s | but you may be wondering, "why is my tank moving so slow?" |
| 18:18.24 | JeffM | it's a waste |
| 18:18.28 | JeffM | at that point project it on the hud |
| 18:18.41 | L4m3r | mm, fullscreen radar |
| 18:18.45 | L4m3r | :P |
| 18:18.48 | Winny | :D |
| 18:18.51 | JeffM | your giving equal space to 3 things that are not always equal |
| 18:19.10 | JeffM | basicly the way you have it set up, you cover the important part of the 3d view, and leave the least important part open |
| 18:19.18 | JeffM | you cover the ground, and leave the sky open |
| 18:19.29 | Winny | you can still see |
| 18:19.40 | AAA_awright | Winny: With a differential drive, one motor controls forward/backward motion, another motor controls the difference in speed between the wheels. Left wheel = y + x, right wheel = y - x. If both x and y are 1, then the left wheel will be moving at 2, and the right wheel 1, which is what the tanks do now. |
| 18:19.51 | AAA_awright | With a circular box, you can't do that. |
| 18:19.52 | JeffM | AAA_awright: we don't controll the wheels |
| 18:19.57 | JeffM | and our tanks don't drive like that |
| 18:19.59 | Winny | AAA_awright: thanks, captain obvious |
| 18:20.02 | AAA_awright | I realise that, that is how the tanks still move. |
| 18:20.23 | AAA_awright | More or less. Probably less. |
| 18:20.33 | F687s | going with the dashboard theme, a rear-view mirror could be of some use :-) |
| 18:20.49 | JeffM | we have a heads up display, we shoudl use it |
| 18:20.55 | AAA_awright | Tanks don't have rear-view mirrors ;) |
| 18:21.04 | JeffM | tanks can't fly |
| 18:21.12 | Winny | F687s: that sort of defeats the purpose of ST |
| 18:21.51 | AAA_awright | Winny: I like the circular radar, but cut down the space used by the altimeter and add a compass, reduce the padding in the clock/status area |
| 18:22.12 | AAA_awright | The radar should bump right up against the side |
| 18:22.45 | Winny | hm, |
| 18:22.49 | F687s | (going with the dashboard theme, we could also use GPS telling us where to dodge) Another problem is that round objects don't really scale well. |
| 18:23.21 | AAA_awright | Round objects scale well. Vector graphics? |
| 18:23.58 | blast007 | AAA_awright: we're working with OpenGL, not PNG files |
| 18:24.01 | F687s | well, round objects use up more screen space than is really necessary. |
| 18:24.41 | blast007 | ah, nvm, read that wrong |
| 18:24.44 | AAA_awright | They don't tessellate very well. At all. |
| 18:24.45 | blast007 | you were responding to F687s |
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| 18:29.21 | Winny | woo netsplit |
| 18:29.36 | L4m3r | at least we're on the big end |
| 18:29.46 | L4m3r | imagine what they're seeing right now >_> |
| 18:29.59 | blast007 | well, maybe nothing |
| 18:30.19 | blast007 | since their server wasn't responding apparently ( O-Neil1978 rejoined before we saw the split ) |
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| 18:31.52 | Winny | lots o' splits in the past few days |
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| 19:38.00 | nn-main | bzfmaps2site, hi |
| 19:38.24 | Winny | heh |
| 19:38.43 | nn-main | playing around with my sight bot lol |
| 19:38.53 | nn-main | bzfmaps2site, |
| 19:39.01 | nn-main | hi |
| 19:39.03 | nn-main | ? |
| 19:39.08 | Winny | do it in your own channel then |
| 19:39.11 | nn-main | why wont it respond |
| 19:39.39 | Constitution | what kind of bot is it? |
| 19:40.02 | nn-main | the one included in drupal |
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| 19:40.45 | ruskie | so why is it in this chan? |
| 19:41.06 | Winny | yeah |
| 19:41.14 | Winny | it's really not hard to make your own channel to test |
| 19:41.16 | nn-main | It's moduled right into the sight |
| 19:41.28 | Winny | so? |
| 19:41.34 | Winny | tell it to join a different channel |
| 19:41.40 | nn-main | i know i just have to get it to join it lol |
| 19:41.51 | Winny | and it's "site" |
| 19:41.57 | Winny | "sight" = you seeing something |
| 19:42.55 | Thumper_ | nn-main: please fix the name on your server port 7303 - or shut it off. There's 3 Mystic Valley servers on the server list today |
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| 19:43.28 | Constitution | uh-oh |
| 19:43.50 | ruskie | duck and cover |
| 19:44.04 | nn-main | yay it joined see you later;;;; Thumper_ ok .... shure .. i will |
| 19:44.21 | Thumper_ | nn-main: thx |
| 19:44.59 | nn-main | Thumper_, so you own no rang |
| 19:45.05 | Thumper_ | yes |
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| 19:45.45 | Thumper_ | norang.ca (no space) |
| 19:49.10 | Winny | nn-main: so, going to get rid of the bot? |
| 19:49.40 | nn-main | what ? its not allowed to log here |
| 19:49.51 | Winny | usually bots here are frowned upon |
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| 19:50.18 | divibot | Okay, I'm here. (courtesy of constitution) |
| 19:50.18 | Constitution | ;) |
| 19:50.23 | Constitution | divibot: part #bzflag |
| 19:50.24 | divibot | Leaving. (courtesy of constitution). |
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| 19:50.30 | Winny | heh |
| 19:51.22 | ruskie | but then I don't like to aggitade chanops |
| 19:52.26 | ruskie | bah typo land when I do one handed typing |
| 19:55.00 | Constitution | nn-main: for your information, ibot already logs what happens in this channel... see http://ibot.rikers.org/%23bzflag/ |
| 19:56.06 | F687s | i think JeffM explained the rule on bringing bots here. |
| 19:56.33 | F687s | "If you add a bot here, it better not talk. If your bot doesn't talk, it is not needed here." |
| 19:57.37 | DTRemenak | pretty much. if it does something exceptional that you think might be useful, ask FIRST, then have it join if you get the ok. |
| 19:57.55 | DTRemenak | thanks |
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| 19:58.18 | Winny | heh |
| 19:58.20 | DTRemenak | ... |
| 19:58.33 | fatass | >_> |
| 19:58.54 | F687s | wouldn't the rule above be a Catch-22, though? |
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| 19:59.10 | fatass | F687s: there can be exceptions. |
| 19:59.17 | fatass | that's the only way, actually |
| 19:59.24 | DTRemenak | exactly |
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| 20:01.17 | Winny | ~kick bzfmaps |
| 20:01.17 | ibot | ACTION kicks bzfmaps |
| 20:01.21 | Winny | ick |
| 20:01.53 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o DTRemenak] by ChanServ |
| 20:02.15 | *** mode/#bzflag [+b *!n=bzfmaps@74.94.43.*] by DTRemenak |
| 20:02.17 | *** kick/#bzflag [bzfmaps!i=DTRemena@about/essy/CrazyCoder/DTRemenak] by DTRemenak (DTRemenak) |
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| 20:02.41 | *** mode/#bzflag [-o DTRemenak] by DTRemenak |
| 20:04.25 | DTRemenak | #botpark is a channel set up specifically for testing bots, feel free to use it or create your own channel. |
| 20:07.27 | F687s | (whilst attempting to reach a 12th interval) at least if you're going to add a bot, describe what it does first. |
| 20:08.05 | DTRemenak | like I said, if it does something exceptional, ask FIRST |
| 20:08.53 | DTRemenak | "I have a really cool bot that reads people's minds and automatically kicks anyone who intends to disrupt the channel. May it join?" |
| 20:09.10 | Thumper_ | DTRemenak: as long as it doesn't talk :) |
| 20:09.16 | Winny | hehe |
| 20:09.19 | DTRemenak | hehe |
| 20:09.37 | F687s | you would probably vote it down at the "really cool" part, though |
| 20:09.59 | DTRemenak | didn't say it would get in. was giving an example of "the right way" |
| 20:10.49 | JeffM | what does the bot do? |
| 20:10.59 | F687s | knowing nn, we may never know |
| 20:11.03 | Winny | "<nn-main> playing around with my sight bot lol" |
| 20:11.11 | Winny | Ill assume he meant "site" |
| 20:11.36 | DTRemenak | as far as I could tell, nothing. and regardless, he didn't ask first |
| 20:11.47 | F687s | I didn't even know drupal came with an IRC bot... |
| 20:12.16 | DTRemenak | mmm, soldering |
| 20:12.26 | Thumper_ | JeffM: smelly |
| 20:13.38 | JeffM | not really |
| 20:13.50 | JeffM | one more cap to go and I should be done |
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| 20:19.18 | Winny | JeffM: should all the textures be replaced, or? |
| 20:19.57 | JeffM | should is not the appropriate word |
| 20:20.02 | JeffM | if you want to make replacements for all of them |
| 20:20.04 | JeffM | then do so |
| 20:20.16 | JeffM | if you don't we'll gladly look at what you want to do |
| 20:20.23 | JeffM | personaly, I say sure |
| 20:20.31 | Winny | yeah, but Im not sure its a good idea to replace all the textures, since it really changes the "feel" |
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| 20:27.56 | F687s | you should be able to select from different texture packs in the game options (if you had enough, that would be cool) |
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| 20:43.54 | Winny | JeffM: was the grass anohter quake texture? |
| 20:46.32 | JeffM | no |
| 20:48.24 | Winny | oh |
| 20:49.35 | JeffM | yay for carbon fiber :) |
| 21:02.55 | Winny | hm, I wonder if it's worth it to go from a 22" to a 24" |
| 21:04.18 | JeffM | like you have a 22 now and want to get a 24? |
| 21:04.27 | JeffM | or you have nether and want a bigger one? |
| 21:04.32 | Winny | yeah, I have a 22 now |
| 21:04.40 | JeffM | probalby not that big of a diff |
| 21:05.19 | Winny | the 1920x1200 is quite tempting |
| 21:05.32 | Winny | but not sure if it's worth the 450$ |
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| 21:26.14 | Winny | ugh.. /me watches photoshop crash |
| 21:27.20 | JeffM | there is something totaly wrong with glueing servers in place :( |
| 21:27.43 | F687s | that really sucks... |
| 21:27.49 | JeffM | servos |
| 21:27.51 | JeffM | my bad |
| 21:27.56 | Winny | oh, was going to say |
| 21:29.12 | Winny | JeffM: what's the policy on cheat servers? There's one up |
| 21:29.20 | Winny | "CHEAT AS MUCH AS YOU WANT 2" |
| 21:30.00 | Winny | or something |
| 21:30.06 | whodaman- | NightMare's again? |
| 21:30.11 | Winny | no idea |
| 21:30.31 | Winny | ~dns euroanimal.pl |
| 21:30.32 | whodaman- | He had one up a couple of times before.. |
| 21:31.43 | F687s | wasn't there a cheat server policy in the wiki or something? |
| 21:31.58 | blast007 | yes, and I'm going to notify them quick to shut them down |
| 21:32.45 | F687s | Error connecting to server. (yay?) |
| 21:32.56 | blast007 | yeah, I got that too |
| 21:33.01 | blast007 | probably old entries |
| 21:33.12 | blast007 | there were two of them, and now one is gone |
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| 21:38.25 | Winny | ~ping |
| 21:38.26 | ibot | pong |
| 21:39.16 | Winny | ick, my server is down |
| 21:42.18 | Winny | anyone interested in the textures, I changed a couple things |
| 21:42.30 | Winny | http://bzfusion.net/BZTextures/screenshots/bzfi1059.png http://bzfusion.net/BZTextures/screenshots/bzfi1060.png http://bzfusion.net/BZTextures/screenshots/bzfi1061.png |
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| 21:43.38 | whodaman- | Winny, I like the teleporter texture much more. |
| 21:43.48 | Constitution | ~Winny++ |
| 21:44.19 | whodaman- | ~Winny++ |
| 21:44.47 | whodaman- | Bases also look really interesting.. |
| 21:45.35 | whodaman- | You've gone for the kinda "spraypaint" look, nice |
| 21:46.17 | Winny | thanks :o |
| 21:46.24 | whodaman- | ;) |
| 21:46.33 | Winny | the only problem is.. these textures alone are 20mb >_< |
| 21:46.40 | whodaman- | hmm |
| 21:46.49 | whodaman- | how big are the previous ones? |
| 21:47.23 | Winny | uh, probably under 5mb I think |
| 21:47.50 | whodaman- | :/ |
| 21:47.51 | Winny | actually, 25mb.. |
| 21:48.31 | Winny | I suppose thats not horrible for a one time download |
| 21:49.05 | whodaman- | Oh right. |
| 21:49.17 | whodaman- | Only that one time download with the standard ones... |
| 21:49.23 | whodaman- | well, that really shouldn't be a proble |
| 21:49.25 | whodaman- | m |
| 21:49.47 | whodaman- | newbies will just have to wait 5x as long :P |
| 21:51.44 | *** mode/#bzflag [-o Tupone] by Tupone |
| 21:52.34 | Constitution | Or we could sell BZFlag in boxed DVD sets |
| 21:52.58 | Winny | It could come with vista! |
| 21:53.17 | Constitution | yeah, FINALLY a reason to buy Vista :P |
| 21:53.54 | Winny | hehe |
| 21:55.12 | Winny | I would assume most of our players have high-speed... so would it really be that huge of an issue? |
| 21:55.55 | Gnurdux | something i STILL dont know: does bz get higher framerates on windows on linux? |
| 21:56.45 | Constitution | on my computer it does |
| 22:00.42 | Winny | v-sync/windows caps it at the max refresh rate of the monitor in windows |
| 22:01.33 | Winny | her's my queer tank textures |
| 22:01.34 | Winny | http://bzfusion.net/BZTextures/screenshots/bzfi1062.png |
| 22:01.44 | Winny | http://bzfusion.net/BZTextures/screenshots/bzfi1064.png |
| 22:03.13 | whodaman- | ~Winny++ |
| 22:04.05 | Winny | :/ |
| 22:04.17 | Winny | I don't really like them... anyone else agree? |
| 22:04.59 | F687s | meh |
| 22:05.22 | F687s | tank textures make them look like jello |
| 22:07.42 | blast007 | heh, it does |
| 22:08.54 | F687s | *photoshop crashes...again* |
| 22:12.44 | Winny | hmm |
| 22:13.34 | *** join/#bzflag chaoscon_ (i=noident@smartserv/ceo/chaoscon) |
| 22:13.38 | Winny | scucess! |
| 22:13.44 | whodaman- | ... |
| 22:13.58 | Winny | err |
| 22:14.02 | Winny | success |
| 22:14.31 | chaoscon_ | quick question, what would make the list server not show my server, it was showing a day or so ago |
| 22:15.21 | Winny | what server is this? |
| 22:15.34 | chaoscon_ | bzflag.ssnet.ca |
| 22:15.44 | Winny | did you IP address change? |
| 22:15.44 | whodaman- | ah |
| 22:15.47 | whodaman- | I saw that. |
| 22:15.59 | chaoscon_ | Winny: nope |
| 22:16.08 | whodaman- | you accidentally quit it? |
| 22:16.39 | chaoscon_ | server is up, I can connect to it directly |
| 22:16.55 | whodaman- | did you edit something in the .conf? |
| 22:17.03 | DTRemenak | check your logs (assuming you're running with -d -d -d or similar); when you join it should try to re-add to the list server, see what it says after that |
| 22:17.05 | chaoscon_ | nope, didnt even restart |
| 22:17.07 | nn-main | yay i finally fixed the mail problem with php !!!!!!!! now you can all creat an account on http://Bzfmaps.net !!!!!! |
| 22:17.17 | chaoscon_ | DTRemenak: okay, will check :) |
| 22:17.17 | DTRemenak | it may be unable to contact the list server, or the list server may be unable to connect to it |
| 22:17.41 | Winny | nn-main: we have our own email providers that do no run on comcast. |
| 22:17.42 | chaoscon_ | 2007-12-28 15:17:34: CURLOPT_URL is : http://my.BZFlag.org/db/ |
| 22:17.42 | chaoscon_ | 2007-12-28 15:17:34: Queuing ADD message to list server |
| 22:18.06 | chaoscon_ | wow, that is a new one |
| 22:18.14 | chaoscon_ | seems to be curl |
| 22:18.38 | DTRemenak | that's all normal...should be followed by a couple lines saying it received a connection from the list server |
| 22:19.02 | F687s | nn-main: what would be the importance of registering at bzfmaps.net? |
| 22:19.10 | nn-main | Winny, same i just found out exim the program is used as a sendmail but php gives it the wrong options causing it to fail :( you manuly have to give php the correct options...... Now it works |
| 22:19.12 | chaoscon_ | 2007-12-28 15:18:59: File transfer terminated with error from libcurl 28 : Operation too slow. Less than 1024 bytes/sec transfered the last 10 seconds |
| 22:19.24 | Winny | I see |
| 22:19.35 | DTRemenak | yup, that'd be why :) |
| 22:19.44 | chaoscon_ | that is quite odd to be honest |
| 22:19.50 | DTRemenak | it connects to the list server but can't send |
| 22:19.52 | chaoscon_ | I havent changed anything |
| 22:20.05 | chaoscon_ | not even on the server itself |
| 22:20.12 | nn-main | F687s, you can make pages about your maps, have forums ........ host images I etc etc etc ...... i could go on for a while lol |
| 22:20.30 | F687s | nn-main: like http://bzfmaps.net/~f687s/ ? |
| 22:20.44 | nn-main | no just bzfmaps.net |
| 22:21.07 | nn-main | it runs of a ausom scms you can make your own sight there :) |
| 22:21.08 | DTRemenak | if you have a shell on the server and have curl proper installed, try using curl to get the current list (http://my.bzflag.org/db/?action=GET) |
| 22:21.16 | DTRemenak | err LIST |
| 22:21.29 | chaoscon_ | yea |
| 22:21.35 | Winny | awesome* |
| 22:21.39 | chaoscon_ | been there did that |
| 22:21.41 | chaoscon_ | I get a list |
| 22:21.43 | DTRemenak | hm |
| 22:21.46 | whodaman- | Winny, ? |
| 22:21.47 | DTRemenak | that's weird then :) |
| 22:22.04 | chaoscon_ | DTRemenak: quite |
| 22:23.15 | DTRemenak | nn-main: if you use weblogin people won't have to register again |
| 22:25.03 | F687s | DTRemenak: possibly, if you were to integrate it with the CMS. |
| 22:25.24 | DTRemenak | yup |
| 22:25.51 | DTRemenak | if the cms doesn't have modular authentication then it kinda sucks anyway |
| 22:26.16 | chaoscon_ | DTRemenak: what is it attempting to transfer? to the list server that is |
| 22:26.46 | nn-main | register for the sight has nothing to do with ssh registering ....... The website is for thoes who want to make there own site pages and for bzfmaps.net's comunity :) |
| 22:27.16 | F687s | nn-main: kinda like the Mapatorium? |
| 22:28.07 | L4m3r | that's great, nn, but you don't need to advertise (spam) it all over the place |
| 22:28.23 | nn-main | f687s if you could make a drupal modual for map submition and auto hosting by user that would be fantastic lol any one here want to try :) |
| 22:28.45 | DTRemenak | chaoscon_: an add query. if you go to the default form at http://my.bzflag.org/db/ you can see what it sends (build, gameinfo, title, advertise groups, and possibly token checking) |
| 22:29.09 | F687s | nn-main: I stopped writing PHP, so I can't help you there |
| 22:29.11 | blast007 | that error occurs when the list server cannot connect to your server |
| 22:29.18 | nn-main | ok |
| 22:29.39 | chaoscon_ | blast007: on the standard port? |
| 22:30.01 | DTRemenak | blast007: really? I was under the impression that it finished the send before the connect-back |
| 22:30.36 | blast007 | DTRemenak: the page won't finish loading until it reaches the server (or times out trying to reach the server) |
| 22:30.39 | DTRemenak | or is that the receive timing out? |
| 22:30.42 | DTRemenak | ah |
| 22:30.44 | DTRemenak | got it |
| 22:30.57 | blast007 | chaoscon_: verify that the port you are using via -p matches what you specified in -publicaddr |
| 22:31.08 | DTRemenak | and that your dns resolves correctly |
| 22:31.13 | blast007 | and if that still fails, try using the IP address instead of the hostname |
| 22:32.00 | chaoscon_ | okay, using IP worked, now to go back and find where dns broke |
| 22:32.02 | chaoscon_ | thnx guys :) |
| 22:32.06 | blast007 | :) |
| 22:32.08 | DTRemenak | np :) |
| 22:32.43 | DTRemenak | ~dns bzflag.ssnet.ca |
| 22:32.53 | DTRemenak | that sound right? |
| 22:32.53 | chaoscon_ | heh |
| 22:32.55 | chaoscon_ | yup |
| 22:32.57 | whodaman- | that worked |
| 22:33.25 | blast007 | I get the same from the list server itself |
| 22:33.30 | DTRemenak | yup, me too |
| 22:33.34 | chaoscon_ | now it worked |
| 22:33.39 | chaoscon_ | with the hostname |
| 22:35.11 | DTRemenak | heh |
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