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| 00:26.46 | F687s | nn-main: delayed hi... |
| 00:35.53 | spldart | ....ditto |
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| 02:19.46 | Winny | yo, admins, I have a feeling this is our "friend" http://my.bzflag.org/bb/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&u=29945 |
| 02:21.36 | Winny | mainly 'cause of this comment: " |
| 02:21.36 | Winny | I'm thinking of submitting a picture of a turd. Would this be acceptable?" ( http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?p=119937#119937 ) |
| 02:25.52 | spldart | He seems a real class act. |
| 02:26.10 | F687s | o'really? |
| 02:27.37 | F687s | I wonder if Coogle is his real name, that might explain a lot ;-) |
| 02:29.58 | F687s | of course, there is a completely normal comment... (http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?p=119936#119936) |
| 02:33.47 | spldart | I thought i was funnier than that |
| 02:37.44 | Macrosoft | F687s: he's got a blind spot! remeber that next time you play him |
| 02:38.18 | F687s | Macrosoft: I think the flying without wings kinda makes up for it... |
| 02:39.14 | Macrosoft | i wanted to do a special server mod to screw with cheaters, but it would take a good bit of work to accomplish |
| 02:39.46 | blast007 | it's not worth your time |
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| 02:39.55 | nn64 | hi all |
| 02:39.58 | nn64 | !!! |
| 02:40.34 | blast007 | hi nn64 |
| 02:40.40 | nn64 | Is it possible to make (program) a lighting effect into bzflag |
| 02:40.52 | F687s | not easily |
| 02:41.12 | nn64 | Then eventually a wind effect that makes things sway:) |
| 02:41.14 | blast007 | nn64: you can't do real lighting in a map |
| 02:41.24 | nn64 | no as a client effect |
| 02:41.26 | F687s | you can fake it, though |
| 02:41.49 | blast007 | nn64: right... the client doesn't support anything like that |
| 02:41.53 | blast007 | you can't do real lighting |
| 02:42.02 | nn64 | then a lighting bult lazer that randomly strikes |
| 02:42.11 | nn64 | if your under it you dye |
| 02:42.48 | nn64 | it would be a tun of programming i know but would look AUSOM |
| 02:43.01 | blast007 | a laser would be easy |
| 02:43.09 | F687s | you can fake it with drawinfo |
| 02:43.10 | blast007 | just write a plugin to randomly fire off a world weapon |
| 02:43.11 | nn64 | vertical lazer ? |
| 02:43.21 | blast007 | F687s: do you actually know that? |
| 02:43.36 | F687s | blast007, somewhat |
| 02:43.37 | blast007 | drawinfo does *not* do motion besides circular motion |
| 02:43.53 | blast007 | so it's not going to do a swaying back and forth effect |
| 02:44.18 | F687s | I meant the lighting |
| 02:44.26 | nn64 | well ya but what about a lighting effect in the client to fire in the sky to give you the empresion |
| 02:44.48 | F687s | i.e. (http://bzfusion.net/winny/maps/ThePit/Screenies/bzfi1075.png) |
| 02:45.57 | F687s | if I recall correctly, the exp2 fog mode should give you lightning. |
| 02:46.14 | nn64 | although you could make see threw perimeds and boxes that randomly have a lazer go off high up that give you the effect then a see through perimod to direct it to the ground |
| 02:46.54 | nn64 | wo that field looks cool |
| 02:48.10 | nn64 | exp2 didn't work |
| 02:48.36 | nn64 | F687s, come to bzfmaps.net 7309 |
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| 03:01.16 | nn64 | F687s, I'm going to be here i can't use my main computer right now |
| 03:01.29 | nn64 | let me know when screene |
| 03:01.45 | F687s | nn64: http://bzfmaps.net/~f687s/bzfi0103.png |
| 03:03.53 | nn64 | intresting are there going to be more levels |
| 03:04.10 | F687s | no, for the most part it's grossly untextured |
| 03:04.27 | nn64 | ah |
| 03:04.45 | blast007 | F687s: winny's lighting there isn't drawinfo |
| 03:05.04 | F687s | then what is it? |
| 03:05.05 | blast007 | it's just a mesh with an alpha blended texture fading out to completely transparent |
| 03:05.23 | Winny | and the nolighting parm in the material |
| 03:05.39 | F687s | well, drawinfo is the new bzbuzzword |
| 03:05.42 | nn64 | how in observer do you set your camra position for a screene like that |
| 03:05.46 | blast007 | F687s: it's not a buzzword |
| 03:05.50 | blast007 | it's a very specific item |
| 03:06.06 | blast007 | it doesn't mean "cool looking thingy" |
| 03:06.39 | Winny | yeah |
| 03:06.50 | Winny | it's the way the object is sent to the video card |
| 03:06.57 | Winny | uses less data, IIRC. |
| 03:06.59 | blast007 | nn64: shift/ctrl/alt + arrow keys |
| 03:07.35 | Winny | but those walls actually are draw info'ed meshs :) |
| 03:07.49 | blast007 | just for LOD though? |
| 03:08.01 | Winny | yeah |
| 03:08.06 | Winny | increaed performance |
| 03:08.16 | Winny | I had the exact same thing with a normal mesh |
| 03:09.14 | Winny | F687s: the bottom line is, that lighting is completly faked |
| 03:09.25 | blast007 | nn64: he also turned off the radar and chat panel, and ran /localset noGUI 1 |
| 03:09.28 | F687s | Winny: I know that already, |
| 03:09.34 | Winny | the concrete wall is texture baked to create fake shadows |
| 03:12.06 | nn64 | is there a mass texture library some where |
| 03:12.15 | nn64 | that people use for maps? |
| 03:12.52 | Winny | nn64: most people create their own (I do) |
| 03:12.59 | nn64 | ah |
| 03:13.10 | blast007 | even I made my own, and I haven't made a finished map yet ;) |
| 03:13.30 | nn64 | how do you get the camra angle and liting correct for the photo |
| 03:13.33 | F687s | nn64: http://bzfmaps.net/~f687s/bzfi0103.png |
| 03:13.46 | blast007 | nn64: I already answered that |
| 03:13.59 | blast007 | 21:03:38 <+blast007> nn64: shift/ctrl/alt + arrow keys |
| 03:14.03 | F687s | wrong buffer, |
| 03:14.04 | F687s | http://images.bzflag.org/ |
| 03:14.34 | Winny | keep in mind quite a few people host images on their own bzflag.org subdomains too |
| 03:14.36 | nn64 | no i mean a real camra for shooting a texture |
| 03:14.44 | blast007 | oh |
| 03:14.52 | blast007 | I think winny used photoshop |
| 03:15.09 | blast007 | I've used a flatbed scanner |
| 03:15.11 | Winny | nn64: I made the initial texture in photoshop |
| 03:15.19 | Winny | and then baked the shadows using blender |
| 03:16.32 | nn64 | is it possible to make a tank in bzflag drive up somthing |
| 03:16.56 | F687s | no, tanks cannot move vertically |
| 03:17.26 | blast007 | closest you can get is to use boxes and an increased _bumpHeight |
| 03:17.37 | blast007 | or a physics driver |
| 03:17.52 | nn64 | weard then how did i drive up that sphere in flying popcorns maps |
| 03:18.11 | blast007 | anti-gravity flag |
| 03:18.24 | nn64 | it was with out a flag |
| 03:18.44 | nn64 | i think shoot to make passable would be a nice thing to add |
| 03:19.09 | Winny | /set _maxBumpHeight maybe |
| 03:19.17 | nn64 | so you shoot a object and it becomes passible for a amount of time |
| 03:19.43 | nn64 | ie a simple slution to a door |
| 03:20.17 | Winny | blubbering on about UV mapping, this is what is put onto the mesh |
| 03:20.18 | Winny | http://fusion.bzflag.org/textures/ratsnest/Wall1UV.png |
| 03:20.30 | F687s | nn64: one sided mesh? |
| 03:21.01 | nn64 | no a mesh that is not passable untill shot |
| 03:21.27 | nn64 | then becomes non passable after the tank pased through it |
| 03:21.27 | Winny | too complex, IMO |
| 03:21.46 | Winny | that leads into destructable buildings, which was shot down |
| 03:22.18 | nn64 | shoot but it would be usefull like braking a window |
| 03:22.34 | nn64 | than you can get out of the window |
| 03:22.49 | nn64 | untill it auto de gentrates |
| 03:23.08 | Winny | how will you know it breaks? |
| 03:23.24 | Winny | you'd need to add mesh physics for when it breaks, etc.. |
| 03:23.27 | nn64 | by accedentally shooting it |
| 03:23.42 | nn64 | not really |
| 03:23.58 | Winny | yeah, otherwise it would looks stupid having it just dissapear |
| 03:24.00 | nn64 | shootpass time |
| 03:24.15 | Winny | that has nothing to do with what I said |
| 03:24.25 | blast007 | actually, that's already functional in 3.0, iirc |
| 03:24.30 | blast007 | or at least partially done |
| 03:24.36 | nn64 | the object just changes form nonpassable to passable for time |
| 03:24.39 | Winny | which one? |
| 03:24.43 | blast007 | if I'm thinking right... |
| 03:24.59 | Winny | meshes that can break, and collide with each other on breakage? |
| 03:25.04 | nn64 | which ever one the phisics driver is aplyed to |
| 03:25.25 | Winny | nn64: not that kind of physics... |
| 03:26.23 | blast007 | Winny: I think "doors" |
| 03:26.34 | blast007 | not animated, but the ability to toggle a mesh face as passable |
| 03:26.52 | blast007 | trying to think what it was called... |
| 03:27.09 | Winny | could the material change on the passable change as well? |
| 03:31.18 | blast007 | checking to see what jeff called it |
| 03:31.53 | blast007 | ServerIntangibilityManager ;) |
| 03:33.29 | blast007 | and a client portion as well |
| 03:34.22 | blast007 | ./src/bzflag/ClientIntangibilityManager.cxx/h and ./src/bzfs/ServerIntangibilityManager.cxx/h |
| 03:35.18 | blast007 | seems to only handle the drive-through aspect |
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| 04:24.00 | nn_ | hi all agian |
| 04:24.10 | blast007 | yo |
| 04:25.40 | nn_ | i am talking to you form my laptop which is running a debian installed form 4 1.44M floppy disks on a laptop with 22M ram and 1.1G total hardrive space |
| 04:26.55 | blast007 | ok? |
| 04:27.05 | nn_ | i use this laptop mainly for bzadmin and irc |
| 04:27.24 | blast007 | I have bzadmin on a handheld nokia device |
| 04:27.27 | blast007 | with wifi |
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| 04:33.33 | Macrosoft | if a graphics card crashed, would it freeze the entire system? |
| 04:33.57 | blast007 | it could |
| 04:34.04 | a_meteorite | the driver or hardware (like heat)? |
| 04:34.06 | spldart | Umm... gpu driver/module crash would possibly crash system |
| 04:34.11 | blast007 | I had mine overheat a couple times and the whole thing locked |
| 04:34.54 | spldart | congradulations nn_ for our next trick we will run deb from x86 with 16meg ram |
| 04:35.03 | spldart | hehehe |
| 04:35.39 | Macrosoft | several times ive been playing a game, and the screen will get distorted to hell and/or the screen blanks out, then everything stops responding |
| 04:35.54 | spldart | Artifacting in screen? |
| 04:36.19 | Macrosoft | it usually happens when there are a lot of things onscreen and my framerate has gotten very low |
| 04:36.23 | blast007 | Macrosoft: my old thinkpad used to do that... |
| 04:36.30 | blast007 | with a Savage IX chipset ;) |
| 04:36.45 | blast007 | what video card/chipset do you have? |
| 04:36.47 | Macrosoft | this is with a geforce 6200oc |
| 04:36.48 | spldart | any distortion? I had 2 ati and one nvid do that |
| 04:36.59 | blast007 | Macrosoft: fanless? |
| 04:37.07 | spldart | my guess yes |
| 04:37.13 | spldart | or bad fan hehe |
| 04:37.15 | Macrosoft | blast007: has a fan, but its pretty small |
| 04:37.23 | spldart | it's spinning freely |
| 04:37.25 | spldart | ? |
| 04:37.38 | blast007 | I stuck two 120mm fans next to my graphics card ;) hasn't crashed since |
| 04:38.29 | Macrosoft | blast007: i took the fan off the stock cpu cooler i had laying around, and i have it blowing air on it |
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| 04:39.49 | Macrosoft | im not sure about the names of some of these sensors, but there's one called "Aux" that i think is most likely the temp reading for the gfx |
| 04:40.22 | blast007 | the nvidia control panel has a temperature display |
| 04:40.33 | blast007 | though in new drivers it's part of an additional tool, iirc |
| 04:40.53 | blast007 | and it can show a chart recording temperature |
| 04:43.59 | Macrosoft | ...stuffed some socks in the way of the fan intake |
| 04:44.11 | Macrosoft | meltdown in 3...2...1... |
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| 04:44.19 | blast007 | Macrosoft: where are you looking? |
| 04:44.30 | spldart | hehe |
| 04:44.46 | Macrosoft | blast007: the 'sensors' app |
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| 04:45.02 | blast007 | what OS are you in? linux? |
| 04:45.07 | Macrosoft | yeah |
| 04:45.13 | blast007 | ah.. |
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| 04:54.19 | spldart | sensors are always so much harder in linux |
| 04:55.56 | L4m3r | just about everything is harder in linux... |
| 04:56.16 | L4m3r | except my TV tuner, which somehow works OOTB despite being a PITA to make work with Windows |
| 04:56.48 | blast007 | Macrosoft: apparently there is an 'nvclock' command which gives out sensor information |
| 04:57.25 | blast007 | the sensors applet might not have nvidia support compiled in |
| 04:57.34 | blast007 | Macrosoft: http://aldeby.wordpress.com/2007/10/26/compiling-gnome-sensors-applet-with-nvidia-support/ |
| 04:57.43 | blast007 | (not sure what linux you have) |
| 04:59.27 | Macrosoft | aww hell, my mouse pointer just disappeared |
| 04:59.55 | Macrosoft | i can still click stuff, but i can tell see the pointer |
| 05:00.17 | Macrosoft | btw, it says the gpu temp is 39C |
| 05:00.39 | blast007 | that's not very hot |
| 05:00.50 | blast007 | I think mine idles around there ;) |
| 05:00.51 | Macrosoft | blast007: its idling |
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| 05:08.07 | Macrosoft | brb |
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| 05:21.25 | Macrosoft | blast007: what would you say is too hot for the gpu to get to? |
| 05:21.43 | blast007 | when the computer crashes |
| 05:21.49 | Macrosoft | heh |
| 05:22.25 | Macrosoft | im setting warnings for the temps, but i dont know what temp i should set for the gpu |
| 05:23.50 | blast007 | it's probably going to depend... |
| 05:24.01 | blast007 | can you make it log to a file? |
| 05:24.06 | Macrosoft | yeah |
| 05:24.10 | blast007 | if so, do that, then run a game until it crashes |
| 05:24.15 | blast007 | see how hot it gets |
| 05:27.02 | Macrosoft | blast007: ntune has a stability test, ill use that instead |
| 05:27.09 | blast007 | ah |
| 05:27.28 | Macrosoft | see what blows up first ;) |
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| 07:02.56 | Macrosoft | blast007: ok, done. the highest the gpu temp ever reached was 46 |
| 07:03.11 | Macrosoft | but this is with the fan |
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| 11:12.57 | I_Died_Once | my system is giving me problem |
| 11:13.33 | I_Died_Once | trying to compile bzflag 2.0.10 and it cant find my sdl |
| 11:13.47 | I_Died_Once | not only do i have sdl installed as well as its dev packages |
| 11:13.55 | I_Died_Once | got all of that installed... |
| 11:14.15 | I_Died_Once | as well as every other sdl related program at this point and it still cant find it |
| 11:15.30 | ruskie | see config.log |
| 11:15.36 | ruskie | it will tell you the exact error |
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| 18:00.57 | donny_baker | hehe spamplugin should be fixed to recognize the difference between admin commands and actual chat |
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| 18:43.08 | brlcad | donny_baker: you saying admins should be able to spam other admins? :) |
| 18:43.39 | blast007 | admin commands |
| 18:43.47 | blast007 | like /ban I would assume |
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| 19:10.32 | donny_baker | brlcad: yes... and lagstats |
| 19:10.44 | donny_baker | like blast said |
| 19:22.13 | brlcad | donny_baker: YAY |
| 19:22.15 | brlcad | donny_baker: YAY |
| 19:22.18 | brlcad | *ahem* :) |
| 19:22.25 | Constitution | lol |
| 19:22.52 | brlcad | (hey, he said I could) |
| 19:25.26 | donny_baker | :) |
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| 19:33.47 | TheRedBaron | brlcad: you're nothing but trouble :) |
| 19:36.49 | brlcad | TheRedBaron: I try |
| 19:37.03 | TheRedBaron | brlcad: its ok, you're an inspiration to me ;) |
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| 19:39.37 | Macrosoft | blast007: crashed again, but log says temps only got up to 44C. maybe i just have a bad card? |
| 19:40.06 | jftsang | with bz_debugMessage's level arg, does it mean the minimum number of -d for the message to show up |
| 19:40.23 | Constitution | yes |
| 19:40.49 | jftsang | thx |
| 19:40.55 | Constitution | np |
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| 19:41.42 | blast007 | Macrosoft: technically could be a driver |
| 19:41.48 | blast007 | it's really hard to say |
| 19:42.09 | blast007 | if it does it again, see if you can ping the machine |
| 19:42.23 | blast007 | or see if you can SSH in |
| 19:43.09 | jftsang | and is duration in bz_IPBanUser in seconds or minutes |
| 19:43.21 | Macrosoft | blast007: ssh to windows? |
| 19:44.14 | Macrosoft | i need a new card anyway, this one bogs down on things like smoke and fire effects |
| 19:44.36 | blast007 | Macrosoft: what? did you say yesterday you're running linux? :/ |
| 19:46.02 | Constitution | jftsang: probably minutes |
| 19:46.12 | blast007 | Macrosoft: if it's under warranty, get it replaced, then sell it on eBay ;) |
| 19:47.39 | Macrosoft | blast007: dual boot |
| 19:48.20 | Macrosoft | and its crashed several times in linux and windows |
| 19:51.08 | TheRedBaron | what card? |
| 19:53.03 | Macrosoft | geforce 6200 |
| 19:53.06 | blast007 | 6200OC |
| 19:53.28 | Macrosoft | exact specs and stuffs http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814143040 |
| 19:55.49 | blast007 | you have the AGP version? |
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| 19:56.33 | Macrosoft | oops, no, the pci version |
| 19:57.28 | Constitution | ~donny_baker++ |
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| 19:58.18 | Constitution | that's one on-the-ball guy :) |
| 20:00.30 | Winny | he just has no life ;) |
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| 20:35.43 | jftsang | where does the installer project output to? |
| 20:55.52 | Winny | nn-main: it's "Aliens" not "Alians" |
| 20:56.09 | Winny | and you forgot an r in arrive |
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| 21:05.06 | Winny | heh |
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| 21:06.21 | jftsang_ | nn-main, the updated map at port 7011 isn't up yet |
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| 21:10.10 | SpazzyMcGee | He's exposing the truths of chicken production |
| 21:15.36 | Winny | you mean how they're raised in tiny cages and then their throats are cut? |
| 21:16.02 | Winny | Macrosoft: if you're gonna get an 8x, get an 8800GT, it's a pretty nice card. Much better then the 8600gt |
| 21:16.27 | L4m3r | expensive, but much more bang for the buck |
| 21:17.04 | SpazzyMcGee | Winny: yep. Four hens / square foot for battery hens |
| 21:17.51 | SpazzyMcGee | Most males are unwanted and asphyxiated as soon as they hatch |
| 21:17.57 | SpazzyMcGee | *and are |
| 21:18.12 | Winny | that's there those marshmellow chickens come from |
| 21:18.54 | L4m3r | I hope to god you're not reading into PETA's BS |
| 21:21.14 | SpazzyMcGee | L4m3r: don't worry, I'm only watching this out of interest. It's being done by Jamie Oliver, who's a chef that does all this sort of stuff. |
| 21:21.37 | SpazzyMcGee | Shock TV, like mincing a live chicken. |
| 21:21.44 | Winny | link me |
| 21:21.44 | Winny | :p |
| 21:22.12 | SpazzyMcGee | It's only just being broadcast right now. |
| 21:22.17 | Winny | pfft |
| 21:24.01 | L4m3r | you couldn't broadcast something like that in the US |
| 21:24.15 | Winny | yeah |
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| 21:34.53 | jftsang | where does installer project output to |
| 21:35.03 | jftsang | (2.0.x branch) |
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| 21:35.40 | Constitution | what OS? |
| 21:41.26 | L4m3r | Constitution: for an installer project, I'm guessing Windows |
| 21:41.31 | L4m3r | :P |
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| 21:53.19 | jftsang | :P |
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| 22:26.47 | TheRedBaron | Macrosoft: for the same price get the AMD 3850. almost 2x the performance when compared to the 8600 |
| 22:27.25 | TheRedBaron | and much cheaper than the 8800 |
| 22:27.46 | TheRedBaron | Constitution: they merged |
| 22:28.05 | Winny | their linux drivers are... fun. |
| 22:28.10 | Constitution | TheRedBaron: yeah... do they call their graphics cards AMD now? |
| 22:28.32 | TheRedBaron | Constitution: depends on who you ask |
| 22:29.00 | Constitution | heh |
| 22:29.05 | Teppic | How does the lastseen thing work anyone? |
| 22:29.25 | Constitution | ~seen JBdiGriz |
| 22:29.30 | ibot | jbdigriz <n=jbdigriz@209-203-68-2.static.twtelecom.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 114d 2h 3m 53s ago, saying: 'bryjen: I escaped from Davy Jone's locker, just to harass you for the day.'. |
| 22:29.35 | Teppic | ~seen brlcad |
| 22:29.36 | ibot | brlcad is currently on #bzflag (11d 9h 34m 46s) #brlcad (11d 9h 34m 46s). Has said a total of 664 messages. Is idling for 1h 26m 12s, last said: 'ah, yeah :)'. |
| 22:29.42 | Constitution | or /msg seenserve seen <nick> |
| 22:30.00 | Teppic | Thx |
| 22:32.51 | TheRedBaron | hrm, although it looks like 8600 gt prices have dropped |
| 22:50.02 | Winny | is it possible to set a material (or mesh) to not cast a shadow? |
| 22:51.40 | AAA_awright | Winny: "noshadow"? |
| 22:52.51 | Winny | does that go in the mesh, or the material? |
| 22:52.55 | AAA_awright | It can be applied to materials |
| 22:53.10 | Winny | yay |
| 22:53.18 | Winny | ~AAA_Awright++ |
| 22:53.28 | AAA_awright | :) |
| 22:58.53 | brlcad | Que? |
| 23:03.38 | Winny | Que? |
| 23:16.53 | Olgem | I get segfaults with the default debian etch packaged version of bzflag(2.0.8) as well as when compiling from source with the latest version. When compiling I noticed that it uses mtune=i686 but my CPU isn't fully compatible with i686. Any ideas? Should I recompile while targetting i585 or lower? How do I get a crash dump out of bzflag? |
| 23:17.49 | Olgem | i586*, I'm using gcc 4.1.2. |
| 23:19.21 | a_meteorite | If your CPU isn't i686, and it compiles that way, I'm sure there would be problems |
| 23:19.30 | a_meteorite | Try forcing it down to i586 |
| 23:19.50 | Olgem | Ok |
| 23:28.58 | Olgem | I'm very new at this, do these cflags look good |
| 23:28.59 | Olgem | CFLAGS="-O2 -Wall -W -mtune=i686 -ffast-math -fno-exceptions" ./configure --host=$i486-pc-linux-gnu |
| 23:29.09 | Olgem | :/ |
| 23:29.16 | a_meteorite | Change your CFLAGs |
| 23:29.17 | Olgem | oops |
| 23:29.35 | Olgem | yeah |
| 23:29.37 | a_meteorite | Something about the host switch doesn't seem right, at least, the $ part. |
| 23:29.49 | Olgem | What about () surrounding the host |
| 23:30.16 | a_meteorite | You don't need anything surrounding it |
| 23:30.50 | Tupone | Olgem: try to use 2.0.10. It is in debian (unstable at least) |
| 23:31.12 | a_meteorite | I do not even know if BZ's configure script accepts a host switch, I usually use the $CHOST env variable... |
| 23:31.34 | Tupone | even in testing |
| 23:31.38 | Olgem | I could try to backport it |
| 23:32.16 | Tupone | what cpu you have? |
| 23:32.39 | Olgem | Heh, I don't know if it would run well at all. I have a Via C3 Samuel 2 (800mhz, 128kb L2 cache) |
| 23:33.35 | a_meteorite | You have a real video card or integrated? |
| 23:33.37 | Olgem | It says i686, but it really isn't, and I guess specifically its missing the cmov opcode or somesuch... |
| 23:33.51 | Olgem | integrated unichrome 2d/3d |
| 23:33.59 | Olgem | with the default xorg via driver. DRI is working |
| 23:34.09 | Olgem | xscreensaver runs nice |
| 23:34.50 | Olgem | I have a few video cards I could slap in here, I just want to test this out tho. |
| 23:34.50 | Olgem | though* |
| 23:34.50 | a_meteorite | Well, in my experience, integrated has never run well for me... at least you have DRI, hardware acceleration. |
| 23:34.52 | a_meteorite | (even moreso true with non-mainstream integrated solutions) |
| 23:35.17 | Tupone | Olgem: if you set CFLAGS and CXXFLAGS no additional non mandatory gcc flag are used |
| 23:36.16 | Tupone | so you should be safe about march/mtune |
| 23:36.46 | Tupone | only with 2.0.10 |
| 23:36.56 | Tupone | not 2.0.8 neither 2.99 |
| 23:37.13 | Olgem | Hmmm, ok. I'll try and backport from unstable/testing in a while |
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