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| 01:09.37 | loophole | the list server seems to be having problems again |
| 01:10.15 | ryanakca | yes... even with the alternate one, I can't get a list or identify when connecting to server |
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| 01:13.08 | loophole | seems ok now |
| 01:13.13 | blast007 | yeah |
| 01:18.05 | delusional | does lengthPerPixel resolve to 8 decimal places? |
| 01:18.45 | delusional | or just 4? |
| 01:19.47 | JeffM | it's stored as a float |
| 01:19.50 | JeffM | they don't do fixed places |
| 01:20.00 | JeffM | the parser probalby only gets 4 |
| 01:20.04 | JeffM | more then 4 is pointless |
| 01:20.45 | delusional | yeah.. i was screwing around with 8... nothing was happening... couldnt figure out why |
| 01:21.01 | delusional | 4 is better |
| 01:21.01 | JeffM | the default for a stream is 4 |
| 01:21.03 | JeffM | IIRC |
| 01:21.16 | delusional | great, at least I'm un-stuck |
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| 06:04.20 | aa | ~AHA++ |
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| 07:31.48 | JeffM | that didn't take too long |
| 07:31.57 | Constitution | nope |
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| 09:41.05 | CIA-25 | BZFlag: 03macsforme * r16461 10/trunk/db/bzgrpmgr/TODO: TODO item to make this die elegantly when the config file isn't found. |
| 10:01.18 | CIA-25 | BZFlag: 03macsforme * r16462 10/trunk/db/bzgrpmgr/ (config.inc index.php): |
| 10:01.18 | CIA-25 | BZFlag: Config file not supposed to be there (template only); delete it. |
| 10:01.18 | CIA-25 | BZFlag: Misplaced close table tag fixed. |
| 10:04.55 | CIA-25 | BZFlag: 03macsforme * r16463 10/trunk/db/bzgrpmgr/include/data.class.inc: s/moderator/moderators/, for consistency with groups created by mass import script. |
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| 13:14.00 | Blizzard- | Working on another map :) |
| 13:15.30 | whodaman- | you might be interested in ##bzw |
| 14:01.52 | Winny | Should someone remove/hide the BZContest forum? it's 2008... 2 years later.. |
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| 15:33.26 | whodaman- | http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?p=120574#120574 ... |
| 15:34.03 | Winny | I am literally lol-ing after readint that. |
| 15:34.34 | Winny | ugh, it hurts to laugh |
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| 15:34.49 | Winny | another donny :o |
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| 18:30.27 | Blizzard- | Can someone help me with spawnzones? |
| 18:33.13 | JeffM | probably depends on what kind of help you need |
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| 18:55.58 | Blizzard- | I got it. |
| 18:56.10 | Blizzard- | I was having issues on the general spawning. |
| 18:56.17 | Blizzard- | But I fixed it, thanks. |
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| 20:13.26 | jftsang | hai |
| 20:15.09 | donny_baker | hoi |
| 20:15.34 | tannerld | howzya |
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| 21:12.05 | whodaman- | http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=12179 |
| 21:12.06 | whodaman- | woah |
| 21:12.10 | whodaman- | little...big? |
| 21:12.22 | Winny | thats what SHE said! |
| 21:12.33 | whodaman- | I knew that was going to come... |
| 21:12.45 | Winny | whoa |
| 21:12.48 | Winny | pybzedit |
| 21:13.03 | Dessy | nice map :P |
| 21:13.18 | JeffM | what's wrong with it? |
| 21:13.22 | tannerld | he got pybzedit to work on windows? O.o |
| 21:13.28 | whodaman- | tannerld, heh |
| 21:13.33 | whodaman- | JeffM, it's like a page long post |
| 21:13.53 | Winny | so? |
| 21:13.59 | JeffM | so |
| 21:14.41 | whodaman- | nothing, I guess |
| 21:15.13 | AHA | ~karma |
| 21:15.13 | ibot | aha has karma of 2 |
| 21:17.27 | JeffM | pybzedit works on windows |
| 21:17.31 | JeffM | it's just not trivial to setup |
| 21:17.43 | JeffM | and it kinda sucks as an app |
| 21:18.52 | JeffM | I added a note to the subject of that thread so the poor low bandwith people will know |
| 21:18.56 | JeffM | not that it's THAT big |
| 21:19.09 | JeffM | tannerld, you run real unix? |
| 21:19.13 | JeffM | impresive |
| 21:19.36 | Winny | He's actually typing to us in binary. |
| 21:20.23 | JeffM | like solaris? |
| 21:20.29 | Blizzard- | Ewwwy |
| 21:20.33 | Blizzard- | I have solaris. |
| 21:20.34 | JeffM | or hp-ux or AIX? |
| 21:21.12 | Blizzard- | But I'm on vista. |
| 21:21.15 | Blizzard- | Not much better |
| 21:22.48 | JeffM | yeah |
| 21:23.02 | JeffM | I'm betting it's some form of "free unix like system" ;) |
| 21:23.07 | JeffM | or that macOS |
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| 21:23.39 | Winny | get off that pr0n |
| 21:25.57 | Blizzard- | Lol |
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| 21:30.58 | Winny | ~Constitution++ |
| 21:31.12 | Winny | ~Constitution++ |
| 21:31.46 | Constitution | heh |
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| 21:50.32 | Webstran1 | I am trying to compile bzflag on windows, I am using VC8. I only get one error, 17>LINK : fatal error LNK1181: cannot open input file 'libcurl.lib'. I do have libcurl registered in VC. What am i doing wrong? |
| 21:50.53 | JeffM | what version of BZ? |
| 21:51.01 | JeffM | 2.0.x or 2.9.x? |
| 21:51.45 | Webstran1 | 2.0.0.8 |
| 21:51.51 | JeffM | 2.0.8 |
| 21:52.00 | JeffM | how did you "register" the libcurl with VC? |
| 21:52.44 | JeffM | also are you aware that 2.0.8 is old, there is a 2.0.10 |
| 21:54.29 | Webstran1 | in VC Tools > Options > Projects and Solutions > VC++ Directories i added the includes directory from libcurl to the 'Include files' and the lib directory to the 'Library files' |
| 21:54.52 | JeffM | and that file includes libcurl.lib? |
| 21:55.08 | Webstran1 | yes i am aware, i have been compiling bzflag in linux up until now, and i know 2.0.8 i can compile. |
| 21:55.10 | JeffM | dir not file, sorry |
| 21:55.18 | Webstran1 | no |
| 21:55.24 | JeffM | then you don't have libcurl |
| 21:55.29 | JeffM | that's your problem |
| 21:55.34 | JeffM | you need the .lib to compile |
| 21:55.36 | JeffM | not just the.dll |
| 21:55.52 | Webstran1 | i got the package: http://curl.haxx.se/latest.cgi?curl=win32-devel-sspi |
| 21:56.02 | Webstran1 | with no ssl |
| 21:56.16 | JeffM | that's not for visual studio |
| 21:56.27 | JeffM | you need the MSVC one |
| 21:56.41 | JeffM | since your using visual C++ as your compiler, instead of cygwin or mingw |
| 21:56.56 | Webstran1 | ah thanks :) |
| 21:57.07 | JeffM | http://curl.haxx.se/download/libcurl-7.15.5-win32-msvc.zip |
| 21:57.30 | JeffM | the premade version will probably want a zlib dll as well before you run it |
| 21:57.38 | JeffM | and I do recoemnd using 2.0.10 over 2.0.8 |
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| 22:00.41 | JeffM | good morow TimRiker |
| 22:00.51 | JeffM | happy lego day |
| 22:00.52 | TimRiker | moin |
| 22:01.34 | TimRiker | ooh. it's lego day? :) |
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| 22:02.06 | JeffM | 50th aneversery of the brick :) |
| 22:02.36 | TimRiker | sweetness. I was reading about how they could make a tower of legos that would reach multiple times to the moon and back. |
| 22:02.52 | Winny | Why don't ya start it and get back to us ;) |
| 22:03.03 | JeffM | there are 62 lego pieces for every man woman and child on the planent |
| 22:03.17 | JeffM | each year they make enough to go around the world 5 times |
| 22:03.35 | noyb | so that's where the oil goes... |
| 22:03.38 | JeffM | yesterday was bzflag beer day |
| 22:03.46 | TimRiker | really need one of those lego robot kits. |
| 22:03.47 | Winny | isn't that every day? |
| 22:03.52 | JeffM | but I was the only one old enough that drank to partake so I had to take one for the team |
| 22:03.52 | Constitution | hehe |
| 22:04.01 | JeffM | Winny, only when there is a gather of 3 or more |
| 22:04.04 | Winny | ah |
| 22:04.10 | TimRiker | heh. We'll I'm old enough, but you can have mine too. |
| 22:04.17 | JeffM | if we took that down to 2 or more, I'd be jacked every day I came to work |
| 22:05.29 | JeffM | TimRiker, sadly I've never had the chance to go to a bzflag gathering that you have attended |
| 22:06.08 | JeffM | tho it is heartening that they seem to be happening more and more often these days |
| 22:12.34 | TimRiker | I'm not sure I've ever been to a "bzflag gathering". Though I've played BZFlag at many other trade and tech shows. |
| 22:12.45 | Webstran1 | you were saying bzflag would require zlib, what is the error: The ordinal 55 could not be located in the dynamic link library zlib1.dll? |
| 22:13.04 | JeffM | Webstran1, the bins of libcurl need zlib.dll |
| 22:13.07 | JeffM | bzflag itself does not |
| 22:13.14 | JeffM | we don't use those premade libcurls |
| 22:13.19 | JeffM | we build our own |
| 22:13.33 | JeffM | where did you get your zlib? |
| 22:13.49 | Webstran1 | from http://www.zlib.net/ |
| 22:13.51 | JeffM | TimRiker, you've never hapend upon a show where other players/devs are? |
| 22:14.01 | JeffM | you need to come out to sigraph |
| 22:14.08 | JeffM | we can all meet at universal again |
| 22:14.29 | TimRiker | I don't think I've met any other devs. Not even chris. for all you know, I'm just a bot. :) |
| 22:14.37 | JeffM | DTRemenak and myself had lunch with Constitution yesterday as he was driving thu |
| 22:14.48 | JeffM | heh |
| 22:14.57 | JeffM | well you DO like the infobot project an awefull lot |
| 22:15.11 | TimRiker | I was out in San Jose last week and dropped by the computer history museum. |
| 22:15.27 | JeffM | purple_cow and scanlime live up there |
| 22:15.34 | TimRiker | but it was just and in and out trip. (met with android folks at google) |
| 22:15.46 | JeffM | ahh, get to go to the googleplex? |
| 22:16.07 | TimRiker | yep. that's where the meeting was. and the museum is close by. |
| 22:16.11 | purple_cow | the computer history museum is like 1/4 mile from chez purple_cow |
| 22:16.14 | JeffM | it's a neat place |
| 22:16.27 | Erroneous | indeed |
| 22:16.42 | TimRiker | it was awesome. I took a bunch of pictures. Now I wish I'd taken 5 times that many. |
| 22:16.42 | JeffM | one day 3 bzflag developers argued with the people from GIT at the googlepex |
| 22:17.23 | Erroneous | s/people/evangelists/ |
| 22:17.23 | Webstran1 | so what did i do wrong? |
| 22:17.28 | JeffM | Erroneous, we had talked about going to that musiem didn't we? |
| 22:17.37 | Erroneous | I've been there in the past |
| 22:17.39 | JeffM | Webstran1, where did you get the zlib |
| 22:17.43 | Webstran1 | http://www.zlib.net/ |
| 22:17.45 | Erroneous | I don't think we discussed it this time around |
| 22:17.50 | Erroneous | but I could be mistaken |
| 22:18.06 | JeffM | Webstran1, that's probalby a later version then the libcurl was linked to. Do you have one of the binary distrobutions of bzflag? |
| 22:22.51 | JeffM | if we had gone, we'd ahve needed another day |
| 22:24.55 | JeffM | wasn't somone looking at a company called "server pronto"? |
| 22:25.12 | Winny | wasn't that spamthonian? |
| 22:25.22 | JeffM | who? |
| 22:25.38 | Winny | Pythonian |
| 22:25.39 | Winny | .. |
| 22:25.46 | JeffM | that's a server not a dude |
| 22:25.48 | JeffM | IIRC |
| 22:25.56 | JeffM | didn't someone "buy" all his stuff? |
| 22:26.13 | Winny | yeah, thats why I referred to it by it's name... not sure who owns it now |
| 22:27.07 | JeffM | they have some inexpensive setups |
| 22:27.11 | Winny | "guyfawkes usa" owned it originally.. I forget the new guy's name... netronix was it? |
| 22:27.19 | JeffM | maybe |
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| 22:32.32 | JeffM | well I guess I should just get a biz cable modem connection and hook some crap machines up to it, tha'ts JUST as agood as a datacenter right? |
| 22:33.15 | Constitution | that's how nn does it |
| 22:33.21 | Constitution | so yeah, definitely |
| 22:33.26 | JeffM | I hear it's awsom |
| 22:33.28 | Winny | JeffM, it's be ausom |
| 22:33.42 | Winny | you can even host your sight there |
| 22:33.50 | Constitution | on the ausom scms |
| 22:33.51 | JeffM | lol |
| 22:34.11 | JeffM | it even uses php with mysql, totaly new unheard of technology |
| 22:35.15 | Winny | hehe' |
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| 23:22.32 | Winny | ooh! |
| 23:22.39 | Winny | a new private message is waiting for me |
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| 23:40.38 | javaJake | Hey guys. I'm an obnoxious dare-devil who just tried out the SVN version of BZFlag. Wow, it's pretty awesome! There's only one thing: the main screen doesn't appear and the radar is as slow as anything. Everything does work in 2.0.8 if that means anything. |
| 23:40.44 | javaJake | Lemme know if I'm in the wrong place. :) |
| 23:40.51 | javaJake | Or if I should even be reporting issues. |
| 23:43.04 | Constitution | main screen doesn't appear? what do you mean? |
| 23:43.50 | javaJake | Well, it is black |
| 23:43.57 | javaJake | And text isn't redrawn correctly |
| 23:44.36 | Constitution | but you can still get elsewhere? |
| 23:44.52 | javaJake | Err, sort of, yea |
| 23:44.55 | Constitution | join game menu, etc.? |
| 23:44.59 | javaJake | Yeop |
| 23:45.04 | Constitution | ok... just didn't quite understand |
| 23:45.24 | javaJake | You know the console area? Well, just above that there's your 3D "view" |
| 23:45.41 | javaJake | It's black, except for the usual mouse box and text |
| 23:45.52 | Constitution | ok |
| 23:45.59 | javaJake | And the text isn't cleared before redrawing, so the anti-aliased text starts to look pretty bad. |
| 23:46.18 | javaJake | Sounds like something just isn't being drawn. |
| 23:47.26 | javaJake | Hold on, something's up... after compiling SVN version bzflag 2.0.8 won't run. -_- |
| 23:47.53 | javaJake | OK, back to normal. Haha, was using the 2.1 settings. :P |
| 23:47.57 | Constitution | heh |
| 23:48.16 | Constitution | if you would like to diagnose and fix it, that would be more than welcome ;) |
| 23:49.33 | javaJake | OK |
| 23:49.35 | javaJake | Well |
| 23:49.36 | javaJake | :D |
| 23:49.46 | javaJake | I'd love to help, but I'd need a few pointers. ;) |
| 23:50.09 | Constitution | int *ptr |
| 23:50.11 | Constitution | there ya go |
| 23:50.41 | javaJake | rofl |
| 23:51.43 | javaJake | Ha! found another bug! -configdir ~/.bzf_2.0 freezes it right up. I'll just use ln then. |
| 23:53.01 | javaJake | OK, also, I didn't tell you that I get multiple messages that all say this: "WARNING: MeshTransform::Tool::Tool() 2.0.0 inversion bug \n The most likely cause is a 'spin' transformation" |
| 23:53.56 | Constitution | after joining? |
| 23:57.15 | javaJake | Constitution: no, before |
| 23:57.23 | javaJake | Guess that wouldn't relate, then |
| 23:57.51 | javaJake | :P |
| 23:59.14 | *** join/#bzflag daniel_jackson (n=bsanford@cpe-76-88-96-237.san.res.rr.com) |
| 23:59.18 | Constitution | hm |
| 23:59.34 | JeffM | javaJake, svn for 2.0.11 or 2.9.x? |
| 23:59.40 | javaJake | 2.9.x |
| 23:59.44 | JeffM | it won't work |
| 23:59.45 | javaJake | I couldn't resist. :P |
| 23:59.48 | javaJake | OK |
| 23:59.56 | JeffM | it has a network connection bug |