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| 00:45.41 | Webstrand | I am having problems compiling bzflag, i have been using VisualC++ 2005 Express to compile, i just got MSVS, reconfigured my settings, and i get this error:Compiling... DXJoystick.cxx ..\..\src\platform\DXJoystick.cxx : fatal error C1033: cannot open program database 'c:\bzflag-2.0.8\win32\vc8\release\vc80.idb' |
| 00:45.55 | Webstrand | is it broken? |
| 00:46.43 | F687s_ | well...does 'c:\bzflag-2.0.8\win32\vc8\release\vc80.idb' exist? |
| 00:47.15 | L4m3r | and more importantly, why on earth would you compile a windows client? :P |
| 00:47.31 | Webstrand | yes it does |
| 00:47.45 | Webstrand | cause i wanted to |
| 00:48.02 | awilcox | blarging flarging conflabbed server |
| 00:48.04 | Webstrand | i'm trying, clean solution |
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| 00:48.28 | awilcox | every time I spawn, ~20 seconds before I get dead. |
| 00:48.37 | Webstrand | ouch |
| 00:49.10 | F687s | awilcox: I would suggest using the dodge trainer for that... ;-) |
| 00:49.10 | awilcox | also, ello Webstrand. |
| 00:49.32 | Webstrand | just keep trying, sooner or later you'll get lucky, and rack up some points |
| 00:49.35 | Webstrand | hi |
| 00:49.35 | awilcox | Webstrand: glad you upgraded to 2005. I remember once, I think it was a few years ago, you were trying to compile with 6.0 :p |
| 00:49.41 | Webstrand | no |
| 00:49.49 | Webstrand | i just had the express edition |
| 00:49.52 | awilcox | no? maybe I am confusing you with someone else. |
| 00:50.02 | awilcox | F687s: there are trainers? |
| 00:50.07 | Webstrand | you suggested i buy 6.0 on ebay |
| 00:50.12 | awilcox | F687s: I've looked everywhere for trainers :( |
| 00:50.41 | F687s | awilcox: ahs3.no-ip.biz:5030 |
| 00:50.43 | awilcox | Webstrand: wait. that wasn't you I told to buy 6.0 on eBay, that was another guy. /me is confused. |
| 00:50.52 | awilcox | F687s: will do, thanks |
| 00:51.44 | Webstrand | ok clean solution fixed the problem |
| 00:52.19 | Webstrand | also a few years ago i had borland 4.5, and that was it.... |
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| 00:52.43 | awilcox | F687s: There's no one and no world weapon O_o |
| 00:57.48 | Webstrand | bzflag crashed as soon as i started it! is there any way i can get bzflag to give debug report in a command line? |
| 00:59.45 | F687s | awilcox: There's also a Tower of Dodging run by sigonasr2, but it's on a mapchange. |
| 01:00.45 | awilcox | ah. |
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| 01:01.19 | Webstrand | sure i'll play |
| 01:01.36 | awilcox | Webstrand: But...but...you just said your client is crashing on startup. |
| 01:01.41 | Webstrand | yea |
| 01:01.49 | Webstrand | cause of my stupid AV |
| 01:01.57 | awilcox | AV? |
| 01:02.01 | Winny | awilcox, my lord |
| 01:02.04 | Winny | this is so weird |
| 01:02.09 | Webstrand | Anti-Virus |
| 01:02.09 | awilcox | Winny: sup? |
| 01:02.12 | Winny | I _finally_ got it to boot |
| 01:02.16 | awilcox | Webstrand: ohh. |
| 01:02.17 | Winny | but now it randomly crashes |
| 01:02.24 | awilcox | Winny: sounds like something is major buggered |
| 01:02.34 | awilcox | Winny: run MemTest86+, failing that, try a different processor |
| 01:02.48 | awilcox | Winny: You don't by any chance overclock do you? |
| 01:02.52 | Winny | nope |
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| 01:03.46 | Winny | I *really* hope its not the mobo |
| 01:04.01 | Winny | seeing as I just used about 1000 twist ties in there to make everything nice and neat. |
| 01:05.08 | Webstrand | a couple of months ago i dealt with a fried mobo... and it happened just after socket 939 CPUs were discontinued, and the warranty... |
| 01:05.21 | Webstrand | ran out.... |
| 01:06.55 | awilcox | Winny: really. run memtest86+ |
| 01:11.28 | Webstrand | Hmm... can anyone explain this, i move bzflag.exe out of my build directory, and it crashes, i have all of its dependencies with it.... |
| 01:11.58 | Webstrand | in the build directory its works like a charm |
| 01:15.35 | F687s | relative paths? |
| 01:15.52 | Webstrand | what do you mean? |
| 01:16.06 | blast007_nokia | debug build or release? |
| 01:16.12 | Webstrand | release |
| 01:16.57 | JeffM2501 | do you have the data dir? |
| 01:17.02 | Webstrand | yep |
| 01:17.04 | JeffM2501 | in the same dir as the exe? |
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| 01:17.40 | Webstrand | yes |
| 01:17.51 | JeffM2501 | what message does it give when it crashes? |
| 01:18.32 | Webstrand | The application failed to initialise properly (0xc0000142). |
| 01:18.56 | JeffM2501 | thats it probalby not loading some lib or something |
| 01:18.59 | JeffM2501 | or using the wrong lib |
| 01:19.32 | Webstrand | looking at remade distro, where can i find the API directory? |
| 01:19.39 | Webstrand | premade* |
| 01:19.54 | JeffM2501 | that isn't part of the tree |
| 01:19.58 | JeffM2501 | it's made as part of the install |
| 01:20.03 | JeffM2501 | you want the header or the lib? |
| 01:20.10 | JeffM2501 | header is in /include |
| 01:20.28 | Webstrand | i need the lib aswell |
| 01:20.30 | JeffM2501 | lib is in Win32/VCXX/release/ |
| 01:20.39 | JeffM2501 | assuming you are on 2.0.x |
| 01:20.44 | JeffM2501 | not 2.9.x |
| 01:20.47 | Webstrand | ok, yes it is |
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| 01:21.16 | Webstrand | oh that is only used by bzfs right? |
| 01:21.35 | JeffM2501 | yes |
| 01:21.41 | JeffM2501 | clients do not have plug-ins |
| 01:23.25 | Webstrand | well when i built it i did not build bzfs or bzadmin, that couldn't be the problem could it? |
| 01:24.21 | JeffM2501 | if it dosnt' build bzfs it won't build bzfs.lib |
| 01:24.57 | Webstrand | no the cause of the error, not missing bzfs.lib, i'm not worried about that any more |
| 01:25.30 | JeffM2501 | not building bzfs will not cause bzflag.exe to fail |
| 01:25.41 | JeffM2501 | bzflag.exe is it's own app |
| 01:26.14 | Webstrand | well i have downloaded and installed bzflag 2.0.8 |
| 01:26.43 | Webstrand | and copied my bzflag.exe, and the runtime dependencies into the instalation dir |
| 01:26.50 | Webstrand | i still get the same error |
| 01:28.00 | Winny | awilcox: it's the videocard |
| 01:28.07 | Winny | I touched it during the install *BOOM* reboot |
| 01:28.30 | Winny | like, the edge of the heatsink. Yes, I was grounded. |
| 01:29.09 | Webstrand | i had a simalar problem, my network card was touching the heat sink of my graphics card, and it was shorting out |
| 01:29.25 | Winny | I bet there's a loose component on the card |
| 01:29.37 | Winny | or possible the PCI-E slot on the mobo is busted? :/ |
| 01:29.47 | Webstrand | not likely |
| 01:33.09 | JeffM2501 | Webstrand what compiler? |
| 01:34.32 | Webstrand | Visual Studio 2005 |
| 01:34.39 | Webstrand | thats VC80 |
| 01:34.54 | JeffM2501 | yes I know |
| 01:35.00 | JeffM2501 | full version or express? |
| 01:35.07 | awilcox | JeffM2501: express edition. |
| 01:35.22 | JeffM2501 | you on the same machine as you build on? |
| 01:35.46 | Webstrand | yes |
| 01:35.54 | Webstrand | no its full version |
| 01:36.05 | JeffM2501 | when you compiled, did it put a copy of bzflag.exe into the root of the source dir |
| 01:36.10 | JeffM2501 | same place where /data is? |
| 01:36.16 | Webstrand | yes |
| 01:36.22 | JeffM2501 | if you double click that does it run? |
| 01:36.32 | Webstrand | yes in the build dir, only |
| 01:36.39 | JeffM2501 | that's not the build dir |
| 01:36.41 | JeffM2501 | that's the root |
| 01:36.47 | JeffM2501 | so if you double ckick that it runs right? |
| 01:36.51 | Webstrand | yes |
| 01:37.07 | JeffM2501 | ok, now when you move it elsewhere, what other files and dirs do you take with it? |
| 01:37.08 | JeffM2501 | data? |
| 01:38.13 | Webstrand | yes, MSVCP80.dll, MSVCR80.dll, and numerous other DLL files. |
| 01:38.24 | JeffM2501 | you dn't need the MSVC dlls |
| 01:38.27 | JeffM2501 | remove them |
| 01:38.30 | Webstrand | ok |
| 01:38.32 | JeffM2501 | they are isntalled on your system |
| 01:38.39 | JeffM2501 | what other DLLs are you using? |
| 01:38.43 | JeffM2501 | libcurl? |
| 01:38.46 | JeffM2501 | and zlib? |
| 01:39.13 | Webstrand | yes, yes, nagware.dll, and glew32.dll |
| 01:39.23 | JeffM2501 | why nagware? |
| 01:39.28 | JeffM2501 | it's a plug-in |
| 01:39.31 | Webstrand | o ok |
| 01:39.45 | JeffM2501 | did you build with glew support? |
| 01:40.29 | Webstrand | most of the dlls i'm listing were taken from a precompiled bzflag 2.0.8 |
| 01:40.37 | Webstrand | so probaly not |
| 01:40.41 | JeffM2501 | then don't |
| 01:40.44 | Webstrand | ok |
| 01:41.09 | Webstrand | what about .manifest in the nsis directory? |
| 01:41.18 | JeffM2501 | no |
| 01:41.23 | JeffM2501 | you are overthinking it |
| 01:41.30 | JeffM2501 | the bin we distribute is NOT made with VC8 |
| 01:41.32 | JeffM2501 | just do what I say |
| 01:42.57 | Webstrand | ok |
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| 01:48.18 | JeffM2501 | all you should need is the dll for libcurl that you build |
| 01:48.21 | JeffM2501 | and that's it |
| 02:08.10 | Winny | it works FINE with windows.. but linux hates it :/ |
| 02:09.09 | Think_Differentl | strange |
| 02:13.21 | Winny | seems like the 8500 is a buggy card. |
| 02:18.51 | Mets | what's the command to show the client variables again, /localset something? |
| 02:21.54 | nn-main | hi all i just released stage war |
| 02:22.02 | nn-main | but it has bouncing pad |
| 02:22.21 | nn-main | anyone know a good texture for bouncing pads |
| 02:25.44 | Think_Differentl | nn-main, make one! surprise us! |
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| 02:27.41 | nn-main | oh :( |
| 02:27.48 | nn-main | ok |
| 02:27.56 | nn-main | google !!!! |
| 02:30.55 | F687s | just make sure you can take the files you download... |
| 02:30.57 | nn-main | ok found one |
| 02:31.04 | nn-main | a big fan |
| 02:31.12 | nn-main | with blades |
| 02:31.25 | nn-main | will get the idea across |
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| 02:33.14 | F687s | most files are protected under some sort of license, though |
| 02:34.16 | Think_Differentl | wohoo! MIR on a CF card @ newegg. |
| 02:34.24 | F687s | where? |
| 02:34.35 | Think_Differentl | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820211189 |
| 02:34.56 | Think_Differentl | that makes it as cheap as the SD cards :D |
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| 02:36.03 | spldart | I can't believe they are that cheap 8-0 |
| 02:36.23 | JeffM | yeah you can get the asian ones prety cheap these days |
| 02:36.44 | JeffM | specialy after midnight when they are cold and hungry |
| 02:36.51 | Think_Differentl | heh |
| 02:36.53 | spldart | That... sounded... bad... Does that mean I'm in the gutter? |
| 02:36.58 | JeffM | ;) |
| 02:37.04 | spldart | :-D |
| 02:37.35 | JeffM | webmin is COOL |
| 02:39.36 | Think_Differentl | I wish PCI cards that you could stick ram in were cheaper. |
| 02:39.48 | spldart | me too |
| 02:39.49 | Think_Differentl | I've got so much old DDR133 and 333 I could actually use one of those. |
| 02:40.30 | JeffM | how does one tell bz to only build the server? |
| 02:41.22 | Think_Differentl | JeffM, you should know... |
| 02:41.26 | JeffM | no |
| 02:41.26 | spldart | right? |
| 02:41.29 | Think_Differentl | I used to remember. |
| 02:41.33 | JeffM | I don't use makefiles |
| 02:41.34 | Think_Differentl | Now I can't >_> |
| 02:41.34 | spldart | --disable-client |
| 02:41.39 | spldart | --disable-bzrobots |
| 02:41.42 | JeffM | during configure? |
| 02:41.43 | spldart | that? |
| 02:41.48 | spldart | yes |
| 02:42.03 | spldart | ./configure --disable-client etc |
| 02:42.11 | JeffM | thanks |
| 02:42.24 | spldart | Wow.. I learned that from you originally hehe |
| 02:42.32 | JeffM | doubtfull |
| 02:42.37 | JeffM | I never use make |
| 02:42.50 | JeffM | but now I got this thar computer on the interwebs |
| 02:42.58 | spldart | Really?? You are the one that introduced me to Debian and stuff |
| 02:43.13 | JeffM | I've never run a bzfs server so I doubt it was me |
| 02:43.19 | spldart | Ok.. My bad |
| 02:43.51 | JeffM | I may have told you about debian tho :) |
| 02:44.04 | spldart | I am SURE about that point |
| 02:44.15 | spldart | Maybe orchid or others had something to do with the building process |
| 02:44.58 | spldart | I was serving off a windows machine... web and bzfs until you convinced me that linux, specifically debian, was a better route. |
| 02:46.32 | JeffM | that makes more sense |
| 02:46.57 | JeffM | so the term of the day at work today "sudo make me a sandwitch" |
| 02:47.30 | spldart | ... Wow... that was almost 21 days short of 3 years ago now 8-0 |
| 02:48.31 | spldart | ... hoagie sandwhich :-p |
| 02:48.34 | Think_Differentl | bbl |
| 02:49.12 | JeffM | http://xkcd.com/149/ |
| 02:49.23 | Winny | hehe |
| 02:49.37 | JeffM | both of us kept forgeting to use sudo today |
| 02:52.19 | JeffM | aww yeah, using 70% of the CPU :) |
| 02:52.31 | nn-main | ok i got textures they look offel |
| 02:52.37 | Winny | only 70? noob. |
| 02:52.55 | JeffM | Winny: I'm compiling 2 things and installing perl modules in a third |
| 02:53.00 | nn-main | can some one come to userbin.net and help me with the textures |
| 02:53.08 | JeffM | ahh |
| 02:53.22 | DTRemenak | ls |
| 02:53.22 | JeffM | DTRemenak: webmin wanted some perl packages,I told it to get them |
| 02:53.25 | DTRemenak | ww |
| 02:53.28 | DTRemenak | cool |
| 02:53.34 | JeffM | sudo make me a sammich! |
| 02:54.04 | JeffM | wpw |
| 02:54.07 | JeffM | nice |
| 02:54.31 | DTRemenak | sadly I don't think scp offers any sort of resume support |
| 02:54.32 | spldart | LOL |
| 02:54.56 | JeffM | media wiki 11 is the current version right? |
| 02:55.02 | DTRemenak | think so |
| 02:55.05 | JeffM | k |
| 02:55.17 | JeffM | spldart: heh, we got a server today, so it's geting configured. |
| 02:55.45 | spldart | Fun fun |
| 02:56.03 | nn-main | or even better if some one could help me with dynamic flashing colors |
| 02:58.01 | Think_Differentl | Mmm....8800GTS G92... |
| 02:58.42 | nn-main | ok ... acording to bze my stage war map has 793 bozes |
| 02:58.48 | nn-main | boxes* |
| 02:59.51 | JeffM | umm.. great |
| 03:00.13 | Think_Differentl | great indeed. |
| 03:01.56 | spldart | BTW Think_Differentl... I've heard that with some windoze OS's the latest Nvid drivers are still having dd issues that show up with QuickTime and other overlay'a |
| 03:01.59 | spldart | 's |
| 03:02.12 | spldart | Even with 8800 |
| 03:02.23 | Think_Differentl | I don't run windows :D |
| 03:02.27 | spldart | Good |
| 03:02.56 | Think_Differentl | Poor CPU |
| 03:03.15 | JeffM | it stoped |
| 03:03.19 | JeffM | it was a finite loop |
| 03:03.24 | DTRemenak | heh |
| 03:03.46 | Think_Differentl | finite loop < infinite loop |
| 03:03.56 | JeffM | bahh, the modules won't install |
| 03:04.14 | DTRemenak | sudo make me a sandwich |
| 03:04.16 | DTRemenak | :P |
| 03:04.22 | spldart | you 2 are silly |
| 03:04.24 | JeffM | I'm using webmin |
| 03:04.32 | DTRemenak | ah |
| 03:04.41 | JeffM | it wants input by hand |
| 03:05.35 | spldart | May I ask what distro the new server is based on? |
| 03:05.43 | Think_Differentl | debian? |
| 03:05.47 | JeffM | nope |
| 03:05.52 | Think_Differentl | :o |
| 03:05.53 | JeffM | BSD |
| 03:05.55 | spldart | heh |
| 03:05.56 | Think_Differentl | please, not some RPM thing |
| 03:05.57 | spldart | Ah |
| 03:06.16 | JeffM | it's basicly setup very similar to bzflag.bz |
| 03:06.20 | JeffM | in a number of ways |
| 03:06.23 | JeffM | just has more drive space |
| 03:06.26 | spldart | I've heard good things about BSD but i didn't get the hang of the diffs |
| 03:07.17 | donny_baker | JeffM: yes mediawiki 11.1 |
| 03:07.23 | JeffM | donny_baker: cool |
| 03:07.32 | JeffM | donny_baker: do you know how the one in ports works? |
| 03:07.49 | JeffM | do you set up some sort of index and config per site? |
| 03:08.05 | donny_baker | im not following |
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| 03:09.29 | blast007 | JeffM: which BSD? |
| 03:10.17 | spldart | I assumed open |
| 03:10.59 | spldart | You mean ver? |
| 03:11.57 | blast007 | open or free, I mean |
| 03:12.05 | DTRemenak | free |
| 03:12.07 | JeffM | free |
| 03:12.10 | spldart | ah |
| 03:12.18 | blast007 | ok |
| 03:12.18 | JeffM | donny_baker: mediawiki is in ports |
| 03:12.30 | JeffM | when I install it, does it put it in one place? |
| 03:12.35 | blast007 | donny_baker: "ports" is the BSD package manager thingy |
| 03:12.38 | JeffM | or do I have to copy it to a dir for each wiki site I want |
| 03:12.50 | JeffM | yeah packages |
| 03:13.04 | donny_baker | ah... never used it ... installed from the mediawiki package |
| 03:13.07 | JeffM | is the one on .bz from ports or just the files from the tarball uploaded? |
| 03:13.08 | DTRemenak | JeffM: try installing it and see what it does. if it does something undesireable, "make deinstall" |
| 03:13.09 | blast007 | JeffM: personally, I'd just get it from the official site |
| 03:13.10 | JeffM | from the site? |
| 03:13.13 | blast007 | not the package manager |
| 03:13.28 | JeffM | DTRemenak: I will when sql is done |
| 03:13.29 | donny_baker | from the tarball downloaded from mediawiki |
| 03:13.41 | donny_baker | i prefer to install stuff myself |
| 03:13.53 | JeffM | blast007: yeah I can, that's the backup plan, it would be nice to have one isntall for all the wikis so they get the same updates. |
| 03:13.54 | blast007 | web stuff at least ;) |
| 03:13.58 | donny_baker | that way I know where everything is at |
| 03:14.06 | spldart | Cuz you get newer stuff or configurablity? |
| 03:14.10 | blast007 | JeffM: but does it work that way? |
| 03:14.19 | donny_baker | spldart: configurability |
| 03:14.20 | JeffM | I don't know, hence my question ;) |
| 03:14.21 | blast007 | or does it only let you install once instance of a wiki? |
| 03:14.28 | blast007 | my guess only one instance |
| 03:14.38 | spldart | >donny Ah |
| 03:14.45 | JeffM | I coudl see it using an index.php and a config per site |
| 03:15.03 | blast007 | it might, but it probably doesn't :) |
| 03:15.50 | donny_baker | you could probably trick it... to do that, but it's not made to have multiple wikis from one install |
| 03:15.57 | blast007 | their apache was in a chroot by default |
| 03:16.03 | JeffM | ok |
| 03:16.08 | blast007 | and I had to do something to get it to work with MySQL ;) |
| 03:16.24 | JeffM | well we got apcache up |
| 03:16.28 | JeffM | and php is going |
| 03:16.39 | blast007 | does FreeBSD chroot apache as well? |
| 03:16.57 | JeffM | dunno |
| 03:17.55 | DTRemenak | no |
| 03:18.03 | DTRemenak | not by default |
| 03:18.06 | blast007 | k |
| 03:18.53 | JeffM | DTRemenak: mirkwood.opencombat.net is going to *.opencombat.net |
| 03:19.07 | DTRemenak | not surprising. it does match ;) |
| 03:19.21 | JeffM | yeah but there is also a vhost for mirkwood.opencombat.net |
| 03:19.27 | DTRemenak | you can try renaming the config file to match that one first |
| 03:19.45 | DTRemenak | though I s'pose it already should |
| 03:19.53 | DTRemenak | m before o and all |
| 03:20.20 | JeffM | well dosn't matter |
| 03:20.21 | DTRemenak | or remove your wildcard entry |
| 03:20.32 | JeffM | yeah |
| 03:20.34 | JeffM | I'll do that |
| 03:21.08 | JeffM | silly wildcards |
| 03:21.14 | DTRemenak | hah, it takes like 10 clicks in seamonkey2 to accept an invalid ssl cert :) |
| 03:21.31 | JeffM | want to pay to get a real one? |
| 03:21.50 | DTRemenak | naw, I don't one for anything |
| 03:22.06 | JeffM | I think all we'll have with SSL is webmin |
| 03:24.46 | JeffM | hmmm, now to find out where it put the my.cnf |
| 03:31.34 | awilcox | JeffM: (note: I've become 'intimate' with NetBSD, but have barely touched FreeBSD.) my.cnf would go in /etc, but in BSD most apps are --prefix'd to /usr/local |
| 03:31.38 | awilcox | so probably /usr/local/etc |
| 03:32.00 | JeffM | it's not oddly |
| 03:33.41 | awilcox | hmm... |
| 03:58.21 | JeffM | yay, finaly got mysql to run :) |
| 03:59.07 | awilcox | :D |
| 04:04.28 | JeffM | brlcad: you arround? |
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| 04:27.21 | awilcox | Um. |
| 04:27.34 | awilcox | I think that's abnormal? --> "Can't talk to list server" |
| 04:52.23 | brlcad | JeffM: yeah |
| 04:52.30 | JeffM | nevermind :) |
| 04:52.39 | JeffM | was trying to find the my.cnf in freebsd |
| 04:52.41 | JeffM | but found it |
| 04:52.45 | JeffM | it's like wierd and stuff |
| 04:58.18 | brlcad | heh |
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| 04:59.32 | JeffM | but it's staring to work :) |
| 04:59.41 | brlcad | what is? |
| 05:00.04 | JeffM | our server |
| 05:00.15 | JeffM | mirkwood.opencombat.net |
| 05:00.19 | brlcad | heh, well I'd hope it's "work" |
| 05:00.25 | brlcad | you pay them so it works :) |
| 05:00.34 | JeffM | yeah so far so good |
| 05:00.48 | JeffM | it's all been BSDism |
| 05:00.52 | brlcad | sounds like you went two leves up |
| 05:01.18 | brlcad | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:01.23 | chaoscon | ~dns bzflag.ssnet.ca |
| 05:01.46 | chaoscon | odd |
| 05:01.48 | brlcad | so you got it set up with freebsd? |
| 05:01.49 | JeffM | 2 gig p4 |
| 05:01.54 | JeffM | gig of ram |
| 05:01.57 | JeffM | 320 gig drive |
| 05:02.02 | JeffM | 1tb transfer |
| 05:02.09 | brlcad | http://bsdism.org/ :) |
| 05:02.42 | brlcad | yeah, saw the specs earlier |
| 05:02.54 | brlcad | i think that's one or two levels up |
| 05:03.03 | brlcad | (processor-wise) |
| 05:04.18 | brlcad | hmm |
| 05:10.01 | brlcad | ah, my bad, it's one down on processor, one up on disk |
| 05:10.18 | brlcad | that disk would have been sweet |
| 05:11.13 | brlcad | did you get the net upgrade? |
| 05:27.00 | JeffM | brlcad: net upgrade? |
| 05:28.29 | JeffM | anyone know what the GD lib is in ports? |
| 05:30.15 | JeffM | nm, found it :) |
| 05:31.37 | chaoscon | make search name=somename in /usr/ports ;) |
| 05:43.43 | Constitution | yay for userbin.net:5154 |
| 05:44.10 | Constitution | users as follows (all observers): nn1, nn2, nn3, nn4 :P |
| 05:44.45 | Constitution | nn-main: what is the purpose of all those observers, if you wouldn't mind satisfying my curiosity? |
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| 06:03.23 | JeffM | Constitution: FOR SCIENCE! |
| 06:03.52 | pacman87 | JeffM: making a neat gun? |
| 06:04.01 | JeffM | for the people that are still alive |
| 06:04.19 | a_meteorite | Stand back, I'm going to try SCIENCE! |
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| 07:45.51 | Mets | nn likes bots, what can i say |
| 07:46.09 | Mets | this way he can cross check his logs with the log of his logs |
| 07:46.13 | Mets | and he doesn't miss a beat |
| 07:46.13 | think_tank | yopabupop |
| 07:46.27 | Mets | while he's logging his log checking |
| 07:48.59 | Constitution | lol |
| 07:49.42 | Constitution | "coincidently," these bots raise that server to the top of the servers without players on the list ;) |
| 07:50.08 | JeffM | he didn't upgrade to the version that dosn't report bots? |
| 07:50.08 | Mets | and I'm sure that's just an accident const :) |
| 07:50.19 | Constitution | erm, not bots... observer bzadmins |
| 07:50.25 | JeffM | those don't count |
| 07:50.27 | JeffM | as much |
| 07:50.35 | JeffM | each one counts as 0.1 players |
| 07:50.41 | JeffM | or something |
| 07:50.48 | JeffM | so it should not boost him to the top |
| 07:50.58 | Mets | no but it puts him on the first page |
| 07:51.00 | JeffM | if he's pulling that crap again.... |
| 07:51.05 | Constitution | below the servers with players... above the unoccupied servers |
| 07:51.19 | JeffM | nn-main: what's with the bots? are we going to have to ban you again? |
| 07:51.29 | Constitution | ~bzflist |
| 07:51.52 | Constitution | yep, there it is in #5 |
| 07:51.58 | Constitution | with no players |
| 07:52.03 | Mets | war in 4 stages is the map |
| 07:52.09 | Mets | i don't even think he's finished it |
| 07:52.39 | Constitution | ~bzfquery userbin.net:5154 |
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| 08:03.56 | Constitution | JeffM: does the Windows build of 2.0.10 show up as 2.0.11 dev version in clientquery? |
| 08:04.36 | Constitution | oh, my bad |
| 08:05.40 | Constitution | probably should take care not to confuse my own client response with the server response ;) |
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| 08:15.27 | JeffM | Constitution: svn branch shows as .11 |
| 08:15.31 | JeffM | bins show as 10 |
| 08:17.02 | Mets|Away | night everybody |
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| 18:03.44 | JeffM | there is a raging fire in my heart tonight |
| 18:04.05 | EmoNemo | JeffM: I told you not to drink lighter fluid |
| 18:04.07 | JeffM | growing higher and higher in my soul |
| 18:05.10 | JeffM | you're just jealous ;) |
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| 19:32.30 | Constitution | TimRiker: didn't you submit a group registration for BZFlag to Freenode? Did anything ever come of that? |
| 19:33.13 | whodaman | Constitution, it takes forever for freenode to verify it |
| 19:33.33 | whodaman | essy ;) |
| 19:53.00 | TimRiker | Constitution: it's in the backlog |
| 19:53.29 | Constitution | k |
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| 20:07.27 | Constitution | except I can't find it |
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| 20:40.02 | dvdianov | hi |
| 20:40.12 | Constitution | hi |
| 20:44.11 | dvdianov | Excuse me for disgusting English, but... I have installed compiz-fusion, but BZFlag is unplayable - some black strips blink on the screen... Nobody collided with such phenomenon? How it to overcome? |
| 20:44.52 | JeffM | probalby driver issues |
| 20:45.40 | dvdianov | ut it arises only at started compiz-fusion... |
| 20:45.43 | dvdianov | *but |
| 20:47.17 | Mets | howdy |
| 20:48.18 | blast007 | dvdianov: what graphics card? |
| 20:48.39 | blast007 | I have bzflag on my Ubuntu 7.10 system with compiz enabled |
| 20:48.48 | blast007 | I have an nVidia 7600GT |
| 20:49.13 | blast007 | but I do recall seeing someone on the forum who had that issue of black strips or squares |
| 20:51.35 | Mets | eh, i've found ubuntu and bzflag don't work so well |
| 20:52.09 | blast007 | Mets: works fine |
| 20:52.16 | blast007 | Mets: did you build your own? |
| 20:53.02 | Mets | blast007, i installed ubuntu on my laptop for dual boot, it didn't like a few things, one of which was bzflag |
| 20:53.17 | Mets | it could have been the drivrs though, i was using an ati card, and linux support from ati is not good |
| 20:53.40 | Mets | no, didn't build the laptop, didn't compile ubutnu, and didn't compile bzflag - used binaries |
| 20:53.55 | blast007 | might have been why |
| 20:54.11 | blast007 | I always compile bzflag ;) |
| 20:54.19 | blast007 | except on windows |
| 20:54.24 | Mets | true, that could have been |
| 20:54.27 | Mets | i actually installed it from ap |
| 20:54.29 | Mets | apt |
| 20:54.36 | blast007 | I know there was some issues with 2.0.8 and linux |
| 20:54.43 | Mets | yes, it was 2.0.8 |
| 20:54.59 | blast007 | the fixes were backported to 2.0.8 for debian or Ubuntu |
| 20:55.00 | JeffM | dvdianov, when doing compiz the OS is doing openGL at the same time as bzflag, the driver has to handle that properly. With out compiz only bzflag does openGL |
| 20:55.03 | Mets | a lot of linux players use 2.0.4 it seems still, i probably should have chosen that |
| 20:55.08 | JeffM | that is why it my be diferent |
| 20:55.09 | blast007 | so Ubuntu 7.10 may have a working package |
| 20:55.38 | Constitution | BZFlag has worked on my Ubuntu installation |
| 20:55.45 | Constitution | quite nicely, at that |
| 20:55.52 | blast007 | Constitution: from apt? |
| 20:56.27 | Constitution | ues |
| 20:56.27 | Mets | hmm maybe it was the laptop and ati graphics card combo |
| 20:56.29 | Constitution | *yes |
| 20:56.29 | blast007 | Mets: and were you x64? |
| 20:56.31 | Constitution | 2.0.8 |
| 20:56.39 | Mets | no this was 32 bit |
| 20:56.42 | blast007 | ok |
| 20:56.50 | blast007 | there was some 64-bit issues too, iirc ;) |
| 20:56.52 | Mets | i've seen a lot of people have some trouble actually, mostly audio or video related |
| 20:57.10 | blast007 | I have trouble with ubuntu on my 'gaming' laptop |
| 20:57.17 | blast007 | s/ubuntu/linux/ |
| 20:57.24 | blast007 | can't get any audio out the speakers |
| 20:57.53 | JeffM | what sound on linux be PICKY? who'd have THUNK that ? ;) |
| 20:57.54 | Constitution | you have a gaming *laptop*? |
| 20:58.02 | Constitution | heh |
| 20:58.04 | blast007 | Constitution: 'gaming' (in quotes) |
| 20:58.05 | JeffM | Constitution, you don't? |
| 20:58.25 | Mets | hehe, my current laptop is a gaming notebook |
| 20:58.27 | Constitution | JeffM: my laptop is my only machine |
| 20:58.28 | blast007 | the CPU doesn't cool itself enough, so when playing games, it drops to 50% throttle eve 5 seconds |
| 20:58.38 | blast007 | every* |
| 20:58.42 | Constitution | if I had a machine for gaming specifically, it would be a desktop |
| 20:58.48 | Mets | no problems to report |
| 20:58.58 | blast007 | plus it blows through a battery is an hour and a half... |
| 20:59.10 | blast007 | even when you're just looking at the desktop :P |
| 20:59.26 | Constitution | such a CPU-intensive task ;) |
| 20:59.34 | blast007 | probably is, since it's vista |
| 20:59.45 | blast007 | and compiz on ubuntu |
| 20:59.53 | blast007 | so it's using the video card a bit on both |
| 21:00.17 | Mets | blast007, what laptop? |
| 21:00.18 | blast007 | but the battery just doesn't have enough juice |
| 21:01.05 | blast007 | Mets: Everex XT5000T |
| 21:01.08 | blast007 | I hate it |
| 21:01.22 | blast007 | I even hate the keyboard |
| 21:01.27 | dvdianov | blast007: sorry, I played BZFlag :) . I have Radeon X1600 |
| 21:01.31 | blast007 | it has three / keys |
| 21:01.42 | dvdianov | driver - fglrx, last |
| 21:01.43 | blast007 | dvdianov: ok. Might just be the ATI then |
| 21:01.59 | Mets | hmm haven't heard of it blast, but sorry you hate it :( |
| 21:02.01 | blast007 | I never used an ATI with compiz before |
| 21:02.07 | Mets | mine is a Sager NP2090, no complaints so far |
| 21:02.20 | blast007 | Mets: at least it can run games okay, if I underclock the CPU enough.. |
| 21:02.40 | blast007 | I'm waiting for Notebook Hardware Control to support AMD chips |
| 21:03.00 | blast007 | the current tool I use causes the system to lock up hard when I want to reset the voltages or exit the software |
| 21:03.26 | Mets | tweaking laptops isn't exactly a perfect science yet, i tend to leave mine alone |
| 21:03.36 | Mets | i just turn off the annoying windows background processes that take up resources |
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| 21:03.57 | blast007 | hrm, the XT5300T is probably a lot better |
| 21:04.13 | blast007 | doesn't use a Turion X2, but an actual Athlon X2 |
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| 21:04.39 | blast007 | keyboard looks the same though |
| 21:04.43 | Mets | only thing would have been to not have to have gotten vista with this laptop |
| 21:04.52 | Mets | but i didn't have a choice |
| 21:04.59 | blast007 | mine I can't run XP |
| 21:05.02 | blast007 | unless I don't want wifi |
| 21:05.18 | blast007 | the linux wifi driver is better than the XP one >.< |
| 21:05.20 | Mets | really? |
| 21:05.32 | Mets | usually it's the opposite, people can't get wifi running |
| 21:05.48 | blast007 | yeah.. on XP, when I use wifi, one CPU core is pegged at full, and I get about 4KB/sec max |
| 21:06.01 | Mets | ubutnu detected and setup my wifi perfectly though, i have to admit |
| 21:06.08 | Mets | lol |
| 21:06.15 | Mets | gotta love that :) |
| 21:06.38 | blast007 | yeah |
| 21:07.01 | blast007 | I had tried Dream Linux before that, and it didn't have the madwifi stuff automatically in there |
| 21:07.07 | blast007 | Ubuntu 7.10 did :) |
| 21:07.32 | Mets | yeah ubuntu is really nice about trying to make thigns work without so much head banging, that's why it has become so popular |
| 21:07.54 | Mets | there will always be a place for something like gentoo, but most people just want to click firefox and go to the internet |
| 21:10.47 | dvdianov | blast007: You have told, that heard about such problems. They were not solved? And, as I have understood, you offer compile BZFlag? |
| 21:16.38 | dvdianov | blast007: ping |
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| 21:36.16 | Winny | AHA |
| 21:47.20 | blast007 | dvdianov: compiling probably won't help your instance |
| 21:47.28 | blast007 | I was talking to Mets about compiling bzflag |
| 21:47.43 | blast007 | the issue you have is most likely related to a bug in the graphics driver |
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| 21:56.15 | macsforme | hello from my new MacBook Pro :D |
| 21:56.44 | Winny | booo hisss |
| 21:57.05 | macsforme | hehe |
| 21:57.17 | whodaman | macsforme, nice :p |
| 21:57.25 | macsforme | ty |
| 21:58.48 | macsforme | man, how I have missed OS X |
| 21:58.57 | whodaman | macsforme, tiger? |
| 21:59.12 | macsforme | leopard |
| 21:59.36 | macsforme | it's new... I should think leopard :P |
| 22:00.33 | whodaman | :) |
| 22:00.44 | whodaman | You haven't lived 'till leopard |
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| 22:01.08 | BillGates | Yes you have! |
| 22:01.12 | BillGates | Use Windows! |
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| 22:01.21 | spldart | yeesh |
| 22:01.21 | macsforme | lol |
| 22:01.24 | whodaman | ugh |
| 22:01.26 | whodaman | I'm so stupid |
| 22:01.29 | whodaman | :p |
| 22:02.06 | macsforme | now to start using Command instead of ctrl again |
| 22:02.38 | whodaman | hehe |
| 22:02.51 | whodaman | macsforme, does the keyboard have back-lighting? |
| 22:02.54 | macsforme | yep |
| 22:02.59 | whodaman | I wantz |
| 22:03.53 | Think_Differentl | macsforme, I wish my powerbook had back-lighting :L |
| 22:04.08 | whodaman | Yep, I mean, it's not that useful if you know where the keys are :p |
| 22:04.13 | macsforme | yeah, should be nice... we'll see when it gets dark :) |
| 22:04.20 | whodaman | I guess const still needs alittle help with that... |
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| 22:05.09 | whodaman | JeffM, be prepared to run a map with tons of lasers and gms, otherwise nobody will play it ;) |
| 22:05.27 | JeffM | heh |
| 22:05.28 | macsforme | heh, truly |
| 22:05.29 | Think_Differentl | heh |
| 22:05.41 | macsforme | and fast GM |
| 22:05.46 | whodaman | Yeah... |
| 22:05.47 | Think_Differentl | it's sad, but it's true. |
| 22:05.51 | whodaman | Castle Warfare |
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| 22:06.03 | JeffM | ported quake maps |
| 22:06.11 | whodaman | Why look! It's WinnyP4 ! |
| 22:06.11 | Think_Differentl | Super Lazer Sniping GM CAMP! |
| 22:06.18 | Think_Differentl | P4 ftl. |
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| 22:07.01 | JeffM | I shuld do tons of lasers and GMs |
| 22:07.04 | JeffM | that are fast |
| 22:07.09 | WinnyP4 | any idea what this means? http://pastebin.ca/888153 |
| 22:07.11 | JeffM | but make the range be 1/3rd |
| 22:07.16 | macsforme | haha |
| 22:07.32 | Think_Differentl | err\ |
| 22:07.36 | macsforme | Winny: you have X11 issues |
| 22:07.37 | Think_Differentl | framebuffers? |
| 22:07.45 | WinnyP4 | macsforme: fun. |
| 22:07.52 | Think_Differentl | Winny, use nvidia drivers? |
| 22:07.54 | Think_Differentl | please? |
| 22:07.56 | WinnyP4 | I am. |
| 22:07.58 | Think_Differentl | :O |
| 22:08.07 | Think_Differentl | odd, they work fine for me on 7.10 |
| 22:08.14 | Think_Differentl | I have a simlar card, too |
| 22:08.42 | WinnyP4 | hmm |
| 22:09.28 | Think_Differentl | pasebin your xorg.conf? |
| 22:11.53 | dvdianov | blast007: ok, thanks |
| 22:12.24 | macsforme | gnome ftw |
| 22:12.35 | Think_Differentl | macsforme, agreed :P |
| 22:13.30 | WinnyP4 | brb. |
| 22:16.02 | F687s | I wonder if KDE4 lives up to the hype... |
| 22:17.20 | JeffM | it can't find his frame buffer devices |
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| 22:18.02 | WinnyP4 | works in KDE 3, but not 4 >_< |
| 22:18.35 | JeffM | does 4 use compiz or something |
| 22:18.42 | Think_Differentl | JeffM, I think so. |
| 22:18.43 | JeffM | mayhaps it's locked your framebuffers |
| 22:18.53 | JeffM | so that they can not be opened |
| 22:19.09 | F687s | yeah, I think KDE4 has its own compositing manager |
| 22:20.07 | macsforme | oh woot, SVN is included with leopard |
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| 22:25.43 | JeffM | brlcad, ping |
| 22:39.45 | JeffM | brlcad, unping |
| 22:43.56 | CIA-25 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r16464 10/branches/v2_0branch/bzflag/plugins/SAMPLE_PLUGIN/SAMPLE_PLUGIN.vcproj: include the plugin_utils dir by default. |
| 23:06.00 | CIA-25 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r16465 10/branches/v2_0branch/bzflag/ (4 files in 3 dirs): |
| 23:06.00 | CIA-25 | BZFlag: send the nethandler to the loging function so we can figure out where the data is going or coming from |
| 23:06.00 | CIA-25 | BZFlag: figure out the player ID for log events for the API and send them with the callback. |
| 23:08.02 | CIA-25 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r16466 10/trunk/bzflag/ (4 files in 3 dirs): |
| 23:08.02 | CIA-25 | BZFlag: send the nethandler to the loging function so we can figure out where the data is going or coming from |
| 23:08.02 | CIA-25 | BZFlag: figure out the player ID for log events for the API and send them with the callback. |
| 23:08.23 | Constitution | yay someone broke the 3-week coding drought ;) |
| 23:13.30 | blast007 | JeffM: is trunk still broken? |
| 23:15.13 | JeffM | gmake clyeah |
| 23:15.44 | blast007 | heh...... |
| 23:16.16 | blast007 | maybe I'll poke around with that this weekend |
| 23:39.25 | JeffM | it's in a wierd place |
| 23:39.37 | JeffM | dtr and myself looked at it can't can't see |
| 23:40.02 | JeffM | maybe it should just be reverted |
| 23:40.04 | JeffM | I dunno |
| 23:40.24 | blast007 | I'll add a crap load of debug output on the client and server and see what's going on |
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| 23:41.00 | JeffM | we know what's going on, just not why |
| 23:41.21 | JeffM | the client is geting back a garbage message join |
| 23:41.27 | JeffM | but the server is sending it correctly |
| 23:41.30 | blast007 | hrm |
| 23:41.37 | JeffM | so it never sends a message enter |
| 23:41.39 | JeffM | and hangs |
| 23:41.50 | blast007 | well, I'll bang on it a while |
| 23:41.56 | JeffM | cool |