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| 15:33.19 | bugQ | guten morgen. |
| 15:33.44 | TheReaper^ | morgen |
| 15:34.51 | TheReaper^ | nya eher abend xD |
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| 15:36.52 | bugQ | Oops, should have guessed someone spoke German. *-.-* I plan to learn it after Japanese. |
| 15:37.03 | TheReaper^ | :P |
| 15:37.11 | TheReaper^ | morning |
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| 15:37.18 | TheReaper^ | well better evening |
| 15:37.19 | TheReaper^ | i said |
| 15:37.39 | bugQ | ah indeed |
| 15:38.13 | TheReaper^ | hmm |
| 15:38.32 | TheReaper^ | hmm should i write an webinterface for hosting maps or not -.- |
| 15:38.47 | TheReaper^ | or maybe the group-thing |
| 15:39.10 | bugQ | do both! |
| 15:39.16 | TheReaper^ | :P |
| 15:39.29 | bugQ | they both sound useful. |
| 15:39.53 | TheReaper^ | hmm but i have no idea how bzflag get's the userdata or global groupinfos from the server |
| 15:41.02 | TheReaper^ | bzflag is looking for a system how they could manage the global groups more easy |
| 15:41.58 | TheReaper^ | wenn if i know how the bzflag-client or server loads the global groups from the server no problem |
| 15:42.08 | TheReaper^ | but otherwise |
| 15:42.29 | JeffM | group perms only come from the game server |
| 15:42.37 | TheReaper^ | global groups |
| 15:42.55 | TheReaper^ | you know the one's which you can request |
| 15:43.08 | TheReaper^ | and at the moment you get a phpBB - usergroup |
| 15:43.18 | TheReaper^ | in the forum |
| 15:43.37 | JeffM | those are just names |
| 15:43.50 | TheReaper^ | yes and when you say the server the same name |
| 15:43.57 | TheReaper^ | and give this name permissions |
| 15:44.01 | JeffM | because the server has to have the permisions |
| 15:44.01 | JeffM | yes |
| 15:44.10 | TheReaper^ | then all users are read out of the forumgroup |
| 15:44.21 | TheReaper^ | who can use this options |
| 15:44.28 | JeffM | I know how it works, I helped write it ;) |
| 15:44.34 | TheReaper^ | :P |
| 15:44.37 | JeffM | what do you mean who? |
| 15:44.45 | JeffM | as in things other then the game server? |
| 15:44.46 | TheReaper^ | no idea xD |
| 15:45.09 | TheReaper^ | i only want to know how the game server gets the userlist out of this groops |
| 15:45.17 | JeffM | it dosn't |
| 15:45.19 | TheReaper^ | -o+u |
| 15:45.23 | JeffM | for each user that joings |
| 15:45.37 | JeffM | the game server contacts the list server |
| 15:45.51 | TheReaper^ | yes |
| 15:45.53 | JeffM | with that username, IP, token, and a list of every group that the game server has localy |
| 15:46.13 | JeffM | the list server tells the game server is the token is valid, and what groups in that list the user belogns to |
| 15:46.30 | TheReaper^ | ah ok |
| 15:46.43 | JeffM | that way game servers don't see users |
| 15:46.50 | TheReaper^ | yes |
| 15:46.51 | JeffM | it also lets users change names |
| 15:47.18 | JeffM | so to check if a user in a group you need a token |
| 15:47.29 | JeffM | are you looking to do this check on a webpage or something? |
| 15:47.38 | TheReaper^ | no |
| 15:47.42 | TheReaper^ | the wiki said |
| 15:47.54 | TheReaper^ | you are looking for a system |
| 15:48.07 | JeffM | we are looking for a system to manage the groups on the list server side |
| 15:48.14 | JeffM | and one has been started |
| 15:48.18 | TheReaper^ | that let users easily create their own global groups |
| 15:48.18 | JeffM | it needs to be finished |
| 15:48.29 | JeffM | yes, right now board admins have to create the groups |
| 15:48.34 | TheReaper^ | yes |
| 15:48.42 | TheReaper^ | and i thought of writing such a think |
| 15:48.45 | TheReaper^ | -k+g |
| 15:48.50 | JeffM | it has been started |
| 15:48.54 | TheReaper^ | oh |
| 15:49.07 | JeffM | yes, it needs to be finished |
| 15:49.10 | TheReaper^ | ok then i'm too late xD |
| 15:49.16 | JeffM | not at all |
| 15:49.23 | JeffM | nothing says you can't work on what we have |
| 15:49.30 | TheReaper^ | can i have a look at it? |
| 15:49.41 | JeffM | it's in subversion |
| 15:49.49 | JeffM | in web/bzgrpmgr |
| 15:50.12 | TheReaper^ | ok i will have a look |
| 15:50.32 | JeffM | bugQ: how's your command going? |
| 15:50.39 | JeffM | OSDir work out ok for you? |
| 15:50.52 | bugQ | almost done, and yeah, it's very nice, as usual |
| 15:51.03 | JeffM | no it's not ;) |
| 15:51.11 | JeffM | it shold take streams but it dosn't |
| 15:51.12 | JeffM | but it works |
| 15:51.25 | bugQ | oh, yes, that would make it a bit easier. |
| 15:51.25 | JeffM | has feared streams for far too long |
| 15:53.41 | JeffM | makes a list of what he has to buy at cyclegear |
| 15:53.45 | TheReaper^ | hmm |
| 15:54.17 | bugQ | what happens when the dir can't be read? |
| 15:54.40 | TheReaper^ | which is the url to the svn server? |
| 15:54.58 | JeffM | http://my.bzflag.org/w/SVN documents all our subversion stuff |
| 15:55.18 | TheReaper^ | ah found it |
| 15:55.20 | JeffM | bugQ: it will return false, cus it will have no more files. |
| 15:56.30 | bugQ | should I allow multiple helpdirs? |
| 15:56.47 | JeffM | sure why not, just load and add each one |
| 15:56.50 | TheReaper^ | oO |
| 15:57.00 | TheReaper^ | the template is already inside the code? |
| 15:57.06 | JeffM | TheReaper^: ? |
| 15:57.17 | TheReaper^ | there are no extra template files? |
| 15:57.25 | JeffM | for what? |
| 15:57.28 | JeffM | we can't read your mind |
| 15:57.32 | TheReaper^ | maybe mor layouts |
| 15:57.51 | JeffM | there is no need for our group manager to be "skinable" |
| 15:57.51 | TheReaper^ | so all html code is written directly inside the .php |
| 15:57.55 | JeffM | only we are going to use it |
| 15:58.00 | TheReaper^ | hmm ok |
| 15:58.10 | TheReaper^ | then i will change my normal style a bit xD |
| 15:58.13 | JeffM | it just has to be functional |
| 15:59.40 | bugQ | webadmin will be skinnable, even if it's one of the least likely places to need it :P |
| 16:02.23 | TheReaper^ | is already a user system in there |
| 16:02.39 | TheReaper^ | or doesn't work the login |
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| 16:05.01 | TheReaper^ | so the interface loads the users/callsigns out of the forum? |
| 16:06.56 | JeffM | bugQ: webadmin will be used by more then one host ;) |
| 16:07.09 | bugQ | ya, ok. |
| 16:07.24 | JeffM | TheReaper^: yeah users are stored in the froums for now |
| 16:07.26 | bugQ | should I put a warning to cerr if I can't see any files in the dir or if a file can't be read? |
| 16:07.31 | TheReaper^ | well |
| 16:07.34 | JeffM | techincaly so are groups, but we want those removed |
| 16:07.35 | TheReaper^ | should they stay there |
| 16:07.40 | JeffM | they have to |
| 16:07.43 | JeffM | for now |
| 16:07.47 | TheReaper^ | or should the system get an own usersystem |
| 16:07.51 | JeffM | no |
| 16:07.53 | TheReaper^ | ok |
| 16:07.57 | JeffM | for that ldap is being worked on |
| 16:08.16 | JeffM | at a later date when our auth system is redone, we will change the group system to use that |
| 16:08.34 | JeffM | groups are not the only useage of the user database |
| 16:08.55 | JeffM | bugQ: what does -helpmsg do if the file can not be read? |
| 16:09.04 | bugQ | error. |
| 16:09.13 | JeffM | I'd do the same error, but as a warning |
| 16:09.32 | JeffM | since it is not fatal |
| 16:09.37 | bugQ | right. |
| 16:10.18 | JeffM | TheReaper^: did you read the spec for the project? |
| 16:10.32 | TheReaper^ | spc means? |
| 16:10.39 | JeffM | specification |
| 16:10.43 | TheReaper^ | where to find? |
| 16:10.45 | JeffM | document that says what it should do |
| 16:10.47 | JeffM | the wiki |
| 16:10.50 | TheReaper^ | yes is have |
| 16:11.12 | TheReaper^ | hmm ok then i must get a phpbb for testing xD |
| 16:11.15 | JeffM | this page? http://my.bzflag.org/w/Group_Management_System |
| 16:11.26 | TheReaper^ | yep |
| 16:11.29 | JeffM | k |
| 16:11.38 | JeffM | we use phpbb2 not 3 |
| 16:11.51 | TheReaper^ | yes know |
| 16:13.43 | TheReaper^ | ah ok works |
| 16:14.46 | bugQ | JeffM: the formatting of my editor does not match with your vim settings, i.e. it's as if I use expandtab :P is that a problem? |
| 16:15.21 | JeffM | it's a minor issue, it'd be nice if it was compliant |
| 16:15.49 | JeffM | I'd not let it stop you from working, but I'd ask brlcad, jbd, or DTRemenak when you can to see about fixing it. |
| 16:16.03 | TheReaper^ | hmm ok first problem located xD |
| 16:16.28 | bugQ | it's no problem, I can just open vim and retab everything |
| 16:16.54 | JeffM | what editor do you use? |
| 16:17.08 | bugQ | TextMate, currently, because I'm too lazy to learn vim |
| 16:17.25 | JeffM | have you checked it's settings? does it have options? |
| 16:17.44 | bugQ | it won't to the funky tab = 8 spaces thing, anyway. |
| 16:17.47 | bugQ | *do |
| 16:18.16 | JeffM | you can probably use xcode to edit and set it up in the right formating |
| 16:18.18 | bugQ | it has "hard tabs" (\t) or "soft tabs", no mixing. |
| 16:18.22 | JeffM | but really, it is minor |
| 16:18.39 | JeffM | I have to go and buy motorcycle parts |
| 16:18.45 | JeffM | so I'll be gone for a bit |
| 16:19.01 | JeffM | but ask here for anything else, others should be awake :) |
| 16:19.19 | bugQ | right, cya |
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| 16:31.46 | TheReaper^ | hmm |
| 16:31.53 | TheReaper^ | i've never seen a code like this |
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| 16:50.09 | whodaman- | ~AHA++ |
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| 16:56.13 | TheReaper^ | awful -.- |
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| 18:16.36 | bugQ | it works! |
| 18:17.01 | TheReaper^ | what? |
| 18:17.09 | bugQ | my new bzfs option. |
| 18:17.17 | TheReaper^ | and this option is? |
| 18:17.37 | spldart | waits in breathless anticipation |
| 18:17.58 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: 03bugQ * r17898 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzfs/ (CmdLineOptions.cxx CmdLineOptions.h bzfsAPI.cxx): added -helpdir option |
| 18:18.00 | bugQ | that. |
| 18:19.12 | TheReaper^ | ah |
| 18:19.34 | TheReaper^ | hmm i dont think that i can "repair" the webinterface for the groups |
| 18:19.48 | TheReaper^ | i'm actually rewriting it completly xD |
| 18:20.13 | bugQ | sometimes that's best... |
| 18:20.38 | TheReaper^ | yep |
| 18:20.44 | TheReaper^ | and it's even working :P |
| 18:23.01 | bugQ | oddly though, using gdb seemed to screw things up |
| 18:23.49 | bugQ | that, or I'm not very skilled in debugging |
| 18:24.12 | TheReaper^ | :P |
| 18:24.30 | TheReaper^ | and i don't like searching for failures |
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| 18:26.57 | bugQ | should I document -helpdir on the wiki, and where? |
| 18:29.48 | bugQ | oh am I ever silly. |
| 18:30.35 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: 03bugQ * r17899 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzfs/CmdLineOptions.cxx: unnecessary casts |
| 18:31.10 | catay | bugQ: http://my.bzflag.org/w/BZFS_Command_Line_Options i assume |
| 18:31.40 | catay | and probably also the bzfs man page |
| 18:32.06 | bugQ | does that reflect trunk, or 2.0? |
| 18:33.00 | BulletCatcher | That wiki page has the -a option, so it still seems to be 2.0. |
| 18:33.05 | catay | the one on the wiki 2.0 |
| 18:33.07 | catay | yeah |
| 18:38.53 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: 03bugQ * r17900 10/trunk/bzflag/man/bzfs.6.in: |
| 18:38.53 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: documented -helpdir |
| 18:38.53 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: fixed typos |
| 18:47.03 | spldart | typos? me will have to diff later and see |
| 18:47.25 | bugQ | I don't know whose they were and I won't ask |
| 18:48.26 | spldart | I've done a little bit of updating in trunk's mans and thought I caught others typo's.. ;) |
| 18:49.42 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: 03bullet_catcher * r17901 10/trunk/bzflag/ (15 files in 11 dirs): Set the Subversion property svn:eol-style to CRLF as needed on .dsp, .dsw, .nsi, .sln, and .vcproj files. |
| 18:54.02 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: 03bugQ * r17902 10/trunk/bzflag/man/bzfs.6.in: more typos, whee! |
| 18:54.14 | bugQ | that should quell my OCD for now. |
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| 19:31.10 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: 03bullet_catcher * r17903 10/trunk/bzflag/ (74 files in 31 dirs): Add the Subversion property svn:eol-style=native as needed to README.*, .ac, .am, .bzw, .cpp, .cxx, .h, .in, .m4, .py, .sh, and .txt files. |
| 19:40.14 | BulletCatcher | brlcad: What to do about the .bmp files in the package/win32/nsis directory? |
| 19:40.15 | BulletCatcher | IANA has no appropriate MIME type, but Apache is happy with image/bmp (as seen in the /etc/mime.types file). |
| 19:45.30 | BulletCatcher | Also, I can find no MIME types that would be better than application/octet-stream for the .ttf files. |
| 19:48.23 | bugQ | image/x-windows-bmp ? |
| 19:48.56 | bugQ | that one seems to be popular |
| 19:49.25 | bugQ | well, so does image/bmp. |
| 19:52.55 | blast007 | TheReaper: what's wrong with the web interface for the group manager? |
| 19:53.26 | TheReaper | i don't see through the system |
| 19:53.31 | TheReaper | i only find bugs etc |
| 19:53.40 | blast007 | what bugs? |
| 19:53.44 | TheReaper | is it ok when i use the template and rebuild it? |
| 19:53.45 | blast007 | I mean, it's not *done* |
| 19:53.52 | blast007 | it's not currently used |
| 19:53.55 | TheReaper | like vreate groups even if i'm not logged in |
| 19:54.06 | blast007 | okay. that's not a bug |
| 19:54.12 | TheReaper | or |
| 19:54.14 | blast007 | that just something that hasn't been implmeneted yet |
| 19:54.17 | TheReaper | when i say create group |
| 19:54.19 | blast007 | it's a work in progress |
| 19:54.35 | TheReaper | then it will create a new maingroup not sub |
| 19:54.58 | TheReaper | but is it ok when i use my own code? |
| 19:55.13 | blast007 | can't you fix what is currently there? |
| 19:55.22 | TheReaper | hmm not really |
| 19:55.26 | blast007 | why? |
| 19:55.36 | TheReaper | because of the implementation of the forum and so on |
| 19:55.46 | TheReaper | i don't see through the login system and so on |
| 19:55.50 | blast007 | technically, that system won't be using the forum for the groups |
| 19:56.17 | blast007 | and I think it will use our weblogin system, so it won't directly talk to phpBB's tables at all |
| 19:56.27 | blast007 | (if not, then it should be modified to use that) |
| 19:56.53 | TheReaper | hmm |
| 19:56.59 | TheReaper | i made a quick think |
| 19:57.26 | TheReaper | well i can code one in my style |
| 19:57.34 | TheReaper | then it's up to you to use it or not |
| 19:57.37 | blast007 | it will probably not be accepted ;) |
| 19:57.45 | TheReaper | no problem |
| 19:57.56 | TheReaper | kinda fun because i've nothing else to do xD |
| 19:57.58 | blast007 | I'd prefer the current one get worked on |
| 19:58.08 | TheReaper | well it looks like the current |
| 19:58.11 | TheReaper | works like the current |
| 19:58.39 | TheReaper | hmm ok |
| 19:58.46 | TheReaper | i can send it to the team |
| 19:58.52 | TheReaper | when it's not accepted |
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| 19:58.56 | TheReaper | i will use it otherwise |
| 19:59.17 | blast007 | how will you use it? |
| 19:59.35 | TheReaper | i make cronjobs which create the groupfiles |
| 19:59.47 | TheReaper | and then use the system to create groups which are added in the file or so |
| 19:59.58 | blast007 | uh, are we talking about the same thing? |
| 20:00.04 | TheReaper | ehm |
| 20:00.13 | TheReaper | the group managment system |
| 20:00.14 | TheReaper | ? |
| 20:00.27 | TheReaper | http://thereaper.dyndns.org/bzfweb |
| 20:00.31 | blast007 | the bzgrpmgr is not something that would be used to create group files |
| 20:00.38 | TheReaper | yes i know |
| 20:00.44 | blast007 | it would create/manage the global groups on *our* system |
| 20:00.46 | TheReaper | but i can manipulate it that it does |
| 20:00.47 | TheReaper | xD |
| 20:00.52 | TheReaper | i know |
| 20:00.59 | TheReaper | but when mine is rejected |
| 20:01.07 | TheReaper | i can do whatever i want with the code |
| 20:01.15 | TheReaper | a few of modifications |
| 20:01.21 | blast007 | sure.. |
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| 20:02.26 | TheReaper | yes |
| 20:03.15 | TheReaper | i will make a final of my one and we will see |
| 20:04.42 | TheReaper | but one thing |
| 20:04.58 | TheReaper | the one on the svn is also working with the forum |
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| 20:05.05 | TheReaper | so why that? |
| 20:06.12 | blast007 | ah, guess it currently is |
| 20:06.24 | blast007 | that should be changed to use our weblogin system, like I had said above |
| 20:06.36 | blast007 | but from what I can tell, it stores the groups in it's own tables |
| 20:07.15 | TheReaper | yes i know |
| 20:07.19 | TheReaper | i tested it locally |
| 20:07.54 | TheReaper | what for a login system? |
| 20:07.58 | blast007 | so, in other words, it *won't* be working with phpBB, once that is changed |
| 20:08.05 | TheReaper | ah ok |
| 20:08.16 | TheReaper | hmm so it needs an own user system |
| 20:08.21 | blast007 | no |
| 20:08.26 | TheReaper | or is there one which would be used |
| 20:08.28 | blast007 | we'll log in via: http://my.bzflag.org/weblogin.php |
| 20:08.37 | blast007 | which abstracts our user system |
| 20:09.01 | TheReaper | and this login works how? |
| 20:09.11 | blast007 | same way that the bzflag client login works |
| 20:09.16 | blast007 | gets a token |
| 20:09.25 | TheReaper | what for a token |
| 20:09.27 | blast007 | then the web app can validate that token by asking the list server |
| 20:09.40 | TheReaper | what is this token like? |
| 20:09.49 | blast007 | random characters |
| 20:09.59 | blast007 | basically we store that on the list server and wait for it to be validated |
| 20:10.15 | blast007 | so we can say "yeah, that user requested a token, and that token they give you is valid" |
| 20:10.30 | TheReaper | yes |
| 20:10.56 | TheReaper | and how to check if the username/callsign and password is valid? |
| 20:11.32 | blast007 | http://bzflag.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/bzflag/trunk/bzflag/misc/checkToken.php?view=markup |
| 20:13.37 | TheReaper | ah ok |
| 20:14.48 | blast007 | using that system, we won't have to modify the login system (hopefully) once we switch to another backend (like OpenLDAP) |
| 20:16.02 | TheReaper | another backend? |
| 20:16.09 | blast007 | yeah |
| 20:16.30 | blast007 | the stuff that runs without the user's knowledge, how it works inside |
| 20:16.38 | TheReaper | yes |
| 20:16.39 | blast007 | so the front-end is what the user sees |
| 20:16.41 | TheReaper | of course |
| 20:16.48 | blast007 | currently, our backend uses phpBB |
| 20:16.50 | TheReaper | but why switch? |
| 20:16.54 | TheReaper | yes i know |
| 20:17.01 | blast007 | we can't scale to multiple servers |
| 20:17.25 | TheReaper | so you want to have multiple servers |
| 20:17.25 | blast007 | we can't expand it much without creating a maintaince overhead for upgrading the forum (we'd have to mod every time) |
| 20:17.31 | blast007 | at some point, yes |
| 20:17.45 | blast007 | that way if one goes down, people can still play |
| 20:17.55 | TheReaper | ah |
| 20:17.59 | TheReaper | relay servers |
| 20:18.02 | TheReaper | and so on |
| 20:18.16 | TheReaper | or mirror servers |
| 20:18.27 | TheReaper | like there are 3 server |
| 20:18.51 | TheReaper | and every server contains the db with all users etc. |
| 20:19.29 | blast007 | OpenLDAP can handle the syncing of changes |
| 20:20.04 | blast007 | and it's a system that is designed to hold users/groups/etc, so it's a logic step :) |
| 20:20.13 | TheReaper | yes |
| 20:20.20 | TheReaper | couse it is xD |
| 20:20.32 | blast007 | our web apps would probably talk directly to OpenLDAP |
| 20:20.45 | blast007 | phpbb3, Drupal, MediaWiki, etc support LDAP to some extent |
| 20:20.49 | blast007 | via plugins or otherwise |
| 20:20.54 | TheReaper | phpbb3? |
| 20:21.07 | blast007 | yup, they have native LDAP support |
| 20:21.12 | TheReaper | hmm |
| 20:21.20 | blast007 | though there are some changes that are required to make it work the way we want |
| 20:21.28 | blast007 | another user has already completed that though, iirc |
| 20:21.41 | TheReaper | otherwise i would say use cback orion but i don't know if it supports LDAP |
| 20:23.23 | blast007 | I'd rather use the official version instead of one that I can barely find information about |
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| 20:23.30 | blast007 | that one has been suggested before |
| 20:23.41 | TheReaper | where do you use drupal oO |
| 20:24.00 | TheReaper | hmm cback orion has a great community |
| 20:24.08 | blast007 | we don't currently |
| 20:24.18 | blast007 | but the plan is to use it for the homepage |
| 20:24.25 | TheReaper | ah |
| 20:24.34 | TheReaper | i've already tested drupal xD |
| 20:25.36 | blast007 | another issue I have with cback is that their site is in german. I want to be able to read it. ;) |
| 20:25.47 | TheReaper | ^^ |
| 20:25.52 | TheReaper | ok that is a problem |
| 20:26.00 | TheReaper | the english section is a bit little |
| 20:26.16 | TheReaper | one point to suggest in the premium section :P |
| 20:26.21 | blast007 | anyway, gotta run :) |
| 20:26.26 | TheReaper | yes |
| 20:27.12 | TheReaper | hmm do you know how long is usually takes to create a group? |
| 20:27.39 | TheReaper | after it is requested |
| 20:29.36 | Winny | depends on if the admins feel like making them |
| 20:30.37 | TheReaper | :P |
| 20:30.45 | TheReaper | that's clear |
| 20:33.18 | TheReaper | hmm good that my script is in the state that you can log in but has no use :D |
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| 21:07.15 | BulletCatcher | blast007: Should package/win32/nsis/BZFlag.nsi be included in the list of files mentioned in DEVINFO that need to have updated version numbers? |
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| 21:29.58 | JeffM | bugQ: why an if and then a do while? |
| 21:30.02 | JeffM | why not just a single while? |
| 21:30.34 | bugQ | is there a better way to check if it's false the first time? |
| 21:30.44 | JeffM | why do you need to check if it's false the first time? |
| 21:31.12 | bugQ | to warn that the dir was either empty or couldn't be read |
| 21:31.23 | JeffM | could just keep a count |
| 21:31.36 | JeffM | little cleaner then having 2 places where you have to remember the *.txt part |
| 21:32.00 | JeffM | you may also want to do a log message at lile level 3 for each one that is read |
| 21:32.25 | JeffM | but good job, looks functional :) |
| 21:34.20 | bugQ | logDebugMessage(3, ...)? |
| 21:34.25 | JeffM | yeah |
| 21:34.38 | JeffM | then it's easy to see what it DOES load :) |
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| 21:37.28 | JeffM | and why dirent.h not osfile.h? |
| 21:37.42 | bugQ | oops, where? that was from an earlier attempt. |
| 21:38.21 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r17904 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzfs/bzfsAPI.cxx: be cross platform and use OSDir. |
| 21:38.25 | JeffM | never be afraid to ask us how we do soemthing like that :) |
| 21:39.02 | JeffM | if you have to ask yourself "how do I do this on the mac" then more then likely it's not the same on other OSs, and we've run into it before and have a solution |
| 21:39.10 | JeffM | still, good job |
| 21:51.06 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: 03bugQ * r17905 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzfs/ (CmdLineOptions.cxx bzfsAPI.cxx): debug messages for loading help files |
| 21:53.03 | bugQ | ack. |
| 21:54.47 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: 03bugQ * r17906 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzfs/CmdLineOptions.cxx: errorfix |
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| 22:47.55 | spldart | is there a reason why bzflag trunk client would run at only 1/3 framerate of what bzflag branch does ceteris paribus? |
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| 23:07.32 | spldart | ooOOoo trunk errors... |
| 23:07.43 | spldart | err warnings |
| 23:09.22 | spldart | http://pastebin.bzflag.bz/m37de5cc1 |
| 23:09.35 | spldart | since jeff missed it and may have an answer |
| 23:09.42 | spldart | "is there a reason why bzflag trunk client would run at only 1/3 framerate of what bzflag branch does ceteris paribus?" |
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| 23:12.26 | Hannibol | sup? |
| 23:12.40 | spldart | waddup |
| 23:12.51 | Hannibol | im good you |
| 23:13.01 | spldart | Ok considering... |
| 23:13.32 | Hannibol | T_T |
| 23:14.30 | spldart | heh |
| 23:14.50 | Hannibol | so you make and maps yet? |
| 23:14.51 | spldart | iz ahl good. |
| 23:14.59 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r17907 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzfs/bzfsAPI.cxx: format and printf can't take a std::string to a char* |
| 23:15.00 | spldart | ? |
| 23:15.00 | Hannibol | ok,,,,, |
| 23:15.08 | Hannibol | ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,KJK |
| 23:15.24 | whodaman- | .. |
| 23:15.33 | me1 | . |
| 23:15.39 | JeffM | bugQ: you can't cast a std::string to a %s in a format. have to do the std::string.c_str() for it |
| 23:15.41 | spldart | *_* |
| 23:15.46 | Hannibol | oh srry bout that my hand was on it |
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| 23:16.14 | whodaman- | >she |
| 23:16.15 | bugQ | oh, I fixed one of them. |
| 23:16.20 | spldart | hehe |
| 23:16.28 | JeffM | bugQ: the API function had it still |
| 23:16.29 | Hannibol | : ) |
| 23:16.30 | spldart | No Argooon in here |
| 23:16.34 | JeffM | but live and learn :) |
| 23:16.45 | spldart | build is getting much farther |
| 23:16.46 | whodaman- | aww |
| 23:16.54 | Hannibol | n: 9 |
| 23:17.03 | Hannibol | ack srry again |
| 23:17.06 | me1 | ibot is here, though! |
| 23:17.15 | Hannibol | oh |
| 23:17.58 | bugQ | if I had to complain about anything in c++, it's the string types. |
| 23:18.11 | JeffM | at least it has them ;) |
| 23:18.17 | JeffM | C dosn't have any |
| 23:18.56 | Hannibol | scratches his head |
| 23:18.57 | JeffM | logDebugMessage is basicly a C type function |
| 23:19.04 | bugQ | oh, std::string is fine, it's just their almost interchangable usage with char * |
| 23:19.30 | JeffM | they are interchangeable with const char* |
| 23:19.42 | JeffM | that's what most people get mixed up on |
| 23:19.46 | bugQ | yes, so almost |
| 23:19.48 | JeffM | the fact that C++ cares about const |
| 23:19.59 | JeffM | a const char* is very differnet from a char* ;) |
| 23:20.16 | JeffM | in the end, char*'s ad const char*'s should be minimised |
| 23:20.25 | JeffM | const std::string & is much better |
| 23:21.29 | Hannibol | nyea std string is better |
| 23:23.52 | bugQ | the STL is quite brilliant, though |
| 23:24.58 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r17908 10/trunk/bzflag/ (include/bzfio.h src/common/bzfio.cxx): version of logDebugMessage that takes a const std::string ref |
| 23:27.13 | spldart | Looks like we have succesful linux and windows builds now in debug |
| 23:27.59 | JeffM | joy of joys |
| 23:28.14 | spldart | That was just dripping in sarcasm |
| 23:28.24 | spldart | oo |
| 23:28.42 | spldart | bzfio.cxx:123:2 ERROR: NO NEWLINE AT END OF FILE |
| 23:28.45 | spldart | oops |
| 23:28.52 | spldart | locked my caps while I wasn't looking |
| 23:29.18 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r17909 10/trunk/bzflag/src/common/bzfio.cxx: newline |
| 23:29.22 | spldart | :) |
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| 23:30.16 | JeffM | damns apple to hell |
| 23:30.36 | spldart | New apple or old apple? |
| 23:30.43 | JeffM | now apple |
| 23:30.45 | spldart | ah |
| 23:30.52 | JeffM | no 200 iphone for me till 2009 |
| 23:31.15 | spldart | My boss has an iphone.. kinda hard to use some features |
| 23:31.38 | spldart | what comes out 2k9? |
| 23:31.48 | JeffM | my contract renewal |
| 23:32.01 | JeffM | 200$ iphone won't be like the current iphone |
| 23:32.09 | JeffM | it's a new activation or upgrade price |
| 23:32.13 | spldart | Oh |
| 23:32.19 | JeffM | it'll cost more for people who arn't able to renew |
| 23:33.29 | bugQ | is going for a Neo FreeRunner |
| 23:33.35 | JeffM | so now I have to decide if I want to go nano or touch |
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| 23:33.55 | spldart | is reading about Win Mobile 7 |
| 23:33.57 | JeffM | oh I HAVE a phone that works fine |
| 23:34.01 | JeffM | I just need a new ipod |
| 23:34.06 | JeffM | cus mine is deaded |
| 23:34.24 | JeffM | and if I could have goten one that was a phone too for 200$, with GPS, great |
| 23:39.41 | whodaman- | any windows users ping |
| 23:39.45 | JeffM | ? |
| 23:39.48 | whodaman- | where are the resources located in windows? |
| 23:39.52 | whodaman- | resources folder |
| 23:40.06 | JeffM | with the exe |
| 23:40.07 | whodaman- | vista |
| 23:40.07 | JeffM | data dir |
| 23:40.16 | JeffM | same |
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| 23:40.24 | JeffM | windows dosnt' put it's crap in special places |
| 23:40.41 | JeffM | MS dosnt' require you to bundle apps up into special folder structures |
| 23:40.48 | JeffM | so we just put the read only data with the exe |
| 23:41.38 | bugQ | hard love? |
| 23:41.46 | JeffM | ? |
| 23:41.51 | bugQ | apple |
| 23:42.23 | JeffM | apple just wants to keep apps installable by draging them |
| 23:42.33 | JeffM | even tho many need installers now |
| 23:42.50 | JeffM | system 1 legacy thing |
| 23:43.09 | whodaman- | yawn |
| 23:43.11 | whodaman- | thanks JeffM |
| 23:43.16 | JeffM | sure |
| 23:43.35 | whodaman- | JeffM, PM |
| 23:45.46 | spldart | ok debug builds are good to go @ 17909 both os's |
| 23:45.59 | JeffM | funtastic |
| 23:46.11 | JeffM | hopes he can convince her not to go see Get Smart.... |
| 23:46.34 | spldart | heh |
| 23:46.49 | spldart | Missed it by that much. |
| 23:46.56 | JeffM | it's rated the same as the zohan movie and that was HORIBLE |
| 23:46.57 | spldart | Ah.. the memories |
| 23:47.00 | JeffM | painfully horible |
| 23:47.06 | spldart | wow |
| 23:47.17 | spldart | as bad as zohan huh |
| 23:47.18 | spldart | snap |
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