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| 00:31.39 | CIA-37 | BZFlag: 03bugQ * r18303 10/trunk/bzflag/plugins/webadmin/templates/ (6 files): |
| 00:31.39 | CIA-37 | BZFlag: XHTML compliance |
| 00:31.39 | CIA-37 | BZFlag: some styling for clarity |
| 00:35.55 | CIA-37 | BZFlag: 03bugQ * r18304 10/trunk/bzflag/plugins/webadmin/templates/header.tmpl: typo in styles |
| 00:36.22 | bugQ | well, not quite what I had in mind... |
| 00:37.12 | blast007 | why use XHTML versus HTML? ;) |
| 00:38.03 | bugQ | oh, I dunno. |
| 00:38.26 | blast007 | well, and the fact that I had converted it to HTML before, since it wasn't valid XHTML at the time |
| 00:38.31 | blast007 | the header is still HTML |
| 00:38.36 | spldart | I know this is OT for this channel but this is the biggest group of friendlies I have on IRC. I'm putting together an MP3 cd for a 10 hour roadtrip, one way, and I need ideas for STAY AWAKE music... I have: bloodhound gang, kid rock korn, lenny kravitz, limb bizkit, nelly, nin, nirvana, radiohead, rage against the machine, ramstien, red hot chili peppers and sublime so far... obviously their more upbeat exciting stuff :) Any other g |
| 00:38.36 | spldart | roups I should throw on ? |
| 00:38.45 | bugQ | oh, I didn't notice that. whoops. |
| 00:39.28 | blast007 | bugQ: are you planning to use XHTML 1.0 or 1.1? 1.1 is *supposed* to be sent with an xml style content-type (I forget the exact one) |
| 00:39.51 | blast007 | and also, the XML prolog sends IE6 into quirks mode |
| 00:39.53 | bugQ | nevermind, I'll just do HTML4 |
| 00:40.03 | blast007 | that was part of why I went to HTML 4.01 Strict |
| 00:40.04 | blast007 | k |
| 00:41.46 | spldart | ooOOoo weezer |
| 00:44.46 | L4m3r | spldart: Pantera, SOAD |
| 00:44.52 | spldart | :) |
| 00:44.54 | L4m3r | metallica |
| 00:44.59 | spldart | meh |
| 00:45.14 | bugQ | ratatat! |
| 00:45.16 | L4m3r | Pennywise |
| 00:45.24 | L4m3r | GnR |
| 00:45.31 | JeffM | Cher |
| 00:45.40 | spldart | 8-0 |
| 00:45.44 | bugQ | fNRgL |
| 00:46.55 | blast007 | the portal ending song! |
| 00:47.28 | JeffM | makes a note here.. HUGE sucsess! |
| 00:47.37 | L4m3r | oh man... Queens of the Stone Age! |
| 00:50.31 | bugQ | Arcade Fire |
| 00:50.47 | TheRedBaron | DevilDriver |
| 00:51.12 | bugQ | LCD Soundsytem |
| 00:51.15 | bugQ | system |
| 00:52.13 | spldart | I'm hooked up :) |
| 00:52.33 | TheRedBaron | no godsmack ? |
| 00:52.57 | spldart | I got faceless... Leemmee looksee |
| 00:53.18 | spldart | Doh! I ripped that in flac.. and am in windoze |
| 00:53.35 | spldart | Nero said Duh... What?! |
| 00:53.45 | bugQ | and let's not forget Limozeen! |
| 00:54.23 | spldart | Anywho... sry for the OT... trying to figure ways, other than ish loads of vivarin, to prevent being ditch bait |
| 00:55.42 | bugQ | hopes someone caught that fNRgL does not exist |
| 00:56.06 | spldart | heh.. I hadn't looked yet 8-\ |
| 00:56.15 | spldart | I guess i know not to now |
| 00:57.17 | spldart | And I call that MP3 compilation.. STAY AWAKE! :) |
| 00:57.45 | JeffM | spldart, honestly, audio book |
| 00:57.51 | JeffM | that's what I do when I have to drive to AZ |
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| 00:57.55 | JeffM | makes it go very fast |
| 00:58.01 | JeffM | and that's a 10 hour drive |
| 00:58.03 | JeffM | 600 miles |
| 00:58.03 | spldart | audio book? |
| 00:58.06 | JeffM | yeah |
| 00:58.11 | spldart | That's what I got 600 each way |
| 00:58.20 | JeffM | yeah thats one way for me |
| 00:58.24 | JeffM | 10 there, 10 back :) |
| 00:58.47 | spldart | Sounds similar to my regular sugar land tx to memphis tn drives |
| 00:59.28 | spldart | I'd be worried that an audio book would put me to sleep |
| 00:59.31 | JeffM | I used to use music, but once I switched to audio books the drive feels WAY faster |
| 00:59.31 | bugQ | heh, the first hit on google for fNRgL is a $6000 fridge |
| 00:59.44 | JeffM | it has to be an interesting book |
| 00:59.52 | JeffM | and it depends on what time of the day you g |
| 00:59.55 | JeffM | I usualy leave at 8 |
| 01:00.00 | JeffM | so I get in at 6 |
| 01:00.17 | bugQ | yay emusic |
| 01:00.20 | spldart | I pick up the rental @ 9am |
| 01:00.24 | spldart | tomorrow |
| 01:00.44 | spldart | So hit the road @ 10am |
| 01:00.54 | spldart | Chevy Cobalt this time |
| 01:01.27 | spldart | I like switching it up from Expedetion, to caravan, to cobalt to g5 whateva |
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| 01:03.29 | JeffM | so you'll be there by 8 |
| 01:03.34 | spldart | orso |
| 01:03.41 | JeffM | so that's a normal day, not late into night |
| 01:03.49 | JeffM | yeah sleepyness at that time was never an issue |
| 01:03.54 | JeffM | for me at least |
| 01:04.00 | JeffM | when it gets DARK, then yeah |
| 01:04.14 | spldart | I'm more worried about that road tunnel vision thingy.. Esp around 2 to 4 pm |
| 01:04.18 | spldart | siesta time |
| 01:05.10 | bugQ | my fam and I went between UT and CA frequently; 13 hr drive |
| 01:05.15 | spldart | Hrm... What kinda of book. I'm a total sci fi hound |
| 01:05.26 | spldart | 13 hours is a hard one.. |
| 01:05.30 | JeffM | that's what I usualy do |
| 01:05.47 | spldart | I've done Wichita Ks to South Padre Island.. twice |
| 01:05.50 | spldart | that is brutal |
| 01:06.02 | JeffM | Itunes has books, as well as other places |
| 01:06.02 | bugQ | sci fi, coming up |
| 01:06.14 | bugQ | http://www.emusic.com/audiobooks/browse/bk/bk/-dbkm/bk/0-0/3500001071/0.html |
| 01:06.23 | JeffM | William gibson books are good |
| 01:06.31 | JeffM | as are heinleins |
| 01:06.42 | JeffM | basicly find one that you have wanted to read but haven't and go for it |
| 01:06.46 | JeffM | it keeps you interested. |
| 01:06.55 | bugQ | you can get 1 free book from emusic by starting an immediately cancelable subscription |
| 01:07.23 | bugQ | (cancel after you download, of course) |
| 01:08.40 | spldart | Thanks...I'm looking into the ebook option now :) |
| 01:09.12 | JeffM | basicly what I found is it makes you think about the book and story rather then worry about the road/drive |
| 01:11.05 | JeffM | with music you are basiclyjust counting songs till you get there |
| 01:12.08 | spldart | ... And bobbing your head and screaming along :) |
| 01:12.23 | JeffM | that wears you out way faster |
| 01:12.33 | spldart | the books burn mp3 so you get hours in one disc? |
| 01:13.56 | bugQ | as long as your player can do mp3's |
| 01:14.20 | spldart | Most Avis rentals do that I've seen |
| 01:14.34 | JeffM | do you own a media player? |
| 01:14.35 | spldart | Some even have the sat radio |
| 01:14.48 | spldart | Mp4, two mp3's |
| 01:14.51 | JeffM | but yeah they are low bit rate so you get a LOT on a disk |
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| 01:17.30 | delusional_ | would this be possible with a plugin? as soon as you become abbit you are zapped to a location. |
| 01:18.41 | JeffM | no |
| 01:18.49 | delusional_ | that woul d be possible with a bzfs hack, im sure. |
| 01:18.52 | JeffM | you can't send a player to a location at this time |
| 01:18.57 | JeffM | it's not just bzfs |
| 01:19.00 | JeffM | it's the client |
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| 01:19.08 | JeffM | the client will ignore updats for itself |
| 01:19.14 | JeffM | so you can't just "put" him somewhere |
| 01:19.28 | JeffM | his next update would be from the postion he thinks he's at |
| 01:19.29 | blast007 | JeffM: my thought was sending another spawn message, but I haven't checked if that would work |
| 01:19.40 | JeffM | we ignore it if we are allready alive |
| 01:19.44 | blast007 | k |
| 01:19.52 | JeffM | since that's the message that changes us TO alive |
| 01:20.08 | JeffM | 3.0 should be made to take your own updates |
| 01:20.11 | JeffM | then it'd work |
| 01:20.19 | JeffM | it'd be an easy change in 3 |
| 01:20.39 | delusional_ | i suppose you cant assign a spawn zone to rabbit team |
| 01:21.07 | FusionDude | you don't spawn when you become rabbit |
| 01:21.13 | JeffM | yeah |
| 01:21.22 | JeffM | rabbits never actualy spawn |
| 01:21.28 | delusional_ | that's out, then |
| 01:21.30 | JeffM | when you die you usualy LOOSE rabbit |
| 01:21.55 | blast007 | JeffM: in 2.0.x, I don't see anything about checking if they are already alive when handling MsgAlive |
| 01:22.02 | FusionDude | or lose rabbit even |
| 01:22.10 | FusionDude | looses the rabbits |
| 01:22.23 | JeffM | blast007, hmmm |
| 01:22.30 | JeffM | try it and see |
| 01:26.00 | delusional_ | heh, i was just talking about how that is my method of server maintenance. ... let's see what happens if I do .... |
| 01:26.10 | delusional_ | THIS |
| 01:27.11 | delusional_ | I'm betting the client will ignore it. |
| 01:33.36 | JeffM | let me look |
| 01:34.41 | JeffM | actualy may work |
| 01:35.12 | JeffM | it'll limbo the client first, then after that it's just like a spawn |
| 01:36.00 | JeffM | you'd have to make a change to the API, but yeah you should be able to do it |
| 01:40.04 | delusional_ | blast had a server mod where he spawned you in a corner.. facing the corner |
| 01:40.21 | JeffM | that's easy |
| 01:40.25 | delusional_ | and there was a picture if me, wearing a dunce cap. |
| 01:40.28 | JeffM | the API can change the spawn |
| 01:46.43 | blast007 | delusional_: yeah, that was spawning a dead player |
| 01:47.10 | blast007 | though that was before plugins, iirc, so I actually had a bzfs mod :) |
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| 02:39.50 | bugQ | JeffM: when will bz_setBZDBString() etc return false? |
| 02:40.06 | JeffM | very very rare cases |
| 02:40.11 | JeffM | like you are out of ram |
| 02:41.02 | bugQ | super |
| 02:41.30 | bugQ | not if I don't have the permissions? |
| 02:42.27 | JeffM | you are on the server, you always have permisions |
| 02:42.34 | JeffM | it could return false on the client |
| 02:42.54 | bugQ | ok then |
| 02:45.07 | bugQ | well, this isn't very promising, it seems to be returning false |
| 02:45.55 | blast007 | bugQ: what are you passing to it? |
| 02:47.19 | blast007 | maybe you're hitting this? |
| 02:47.21 | blast007 | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:47.21 | blast007 | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:48.56 | bugQ | got one: bz_setBZDBString("_friction", "0"); |
| 02:51.35 | blast007 | so if var was "0", would !val be true? I'm not familiar enough with that kind of stuff |
| 02:51.42 | blast007 | s/var/val/ |
| 02:52.38 | bugQ | no, it would have to be a null pointer |
| 02:52.47 | blast007 | k |
| 02:52.55 | JeffM | 0 is not a null pointer |
| 02:53.00 | JeffM | that may be value validation |
| 02:53.03 | JeffM | some values are validated |
| 02:53.16 | JeffM | I guess it returns false if validation fails |
| 02:54.14 | bugQ | doesn't look like there's any validation |
| 02:54.17 | bugQ | "0", not 0 |
| 02:54.24 | bugQ | bzfsAPI.cxx:1930 |
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| 02:59.03 | bugQ | at least, the return value wouldn't reflect the validation |
| 03:05.02 | JeffM | what's making it return false then? |
| 03:05.36 | epyon | ech |
| 03:05.51 | bugQ | wait, it returns !exists |
| 03:06.05 | JeffM | ahh so you know if it's new or not |
| 03:06.30 | bugQ | ok, I shouldn't be checking that then |
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| 03:10.17 | spldart | ratatat was a joke right? |
| 03:10.43 | bugQ | why? |
| 03:10.52 | bugQ | well, I guess it won't keep you awake |
| 03:10.59 | spldart | Ah |
| 03:11.02 | Thumper_ | AC/DC & Led Zeppelin |
| 03:11.13 | spldart | Cuz it's not kicking hard and tearing my cerebellum a new one |
| 03:11.37 | spldart | ac/dc... now that's not a bad idea :) |
| 03:11.45 | spldart | mabye some bobby seger |
| 03:11.48 | TheRedBaron | spldart: if you want that - go for Illdisposed |
| 03:11.57 | bugQ | I just blurted out my current favorite |
| 03:12.03 | spldart | ic |
| 03:12.31 | TheRedBaron | spldart: you have a flash player? |
| 03:13.07 | spldart | yeah.. on the current boot |
| 03:13.15 | SportChick | see TheRedBaron & faints |
| 03:13.51 | TheRedBaron | eek |
| 03:13.58 | TheRedBaron | isn't so good with fainting damsels |
| 03:14.09 | TheRedBaron | ~revive SportChick |
| 03:14.10 | ibot | ACTION performs the Heimlich, mouth-to-mouth, shock treatment and anything else necessary to revive SportChick |
| 03:15.10 | SportChick | dies |
| 03:15.17 | spldart | DOH! |
| 03:15.28 | bugQ | I bet it was the "else" |
| 03:15.28 | Thumper_ | sends flowers |
| 03:15.47 | TheRedBaron | oi! I told you I wasn't so good with fainting damsels |
| 03:16.38 | bugQ | :) |
| 03:17.28 | TheRedBaron | ~heal SportChick |
| 03:17.29 | ibot | ACTION heals SportChick with Super Cow Powers. |
| 03:18.03 | spldart | SUPER COW!!! |
| 03:18.52 | TheRedBaron | so spldart - flash player ? |
| 03:19.16 | spldart | spldart> yeah.. on the current boot |
| 03:19.31 | spldart | XP PRO SP3 |
| 03:19.31 | TheRedBaron | err - I need glasses |
| 03:19.36 | spldart | HEHE |
| 03:19.43 | TheRedBaron | here's illdisposed: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRl8wJX-0yw |
| 03:20.00 | bugQ | I just ordered a spiffy new pair of glasses |
| 03:20.13 | Thumper_ | those big bug-eyed ones? :) |
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| 03:20.40 | bugQ | close enough :P |
| 03:20.58 | Thumper_ | remembers those huge oversized sun glasses |
| 03:21.04 | spldart | Now that is stay awake juice |
| 03:23.06 | bugQ | the lenses are actually pretty small, but the temples are thick, green iridescent metal with orange bits tacked on |
| 03:23.07 | SportChick | ~plank TheRedBaron |
| 03:23.07 | ibot | TheRedBaron is blindfolded and pushed at sword-point to walk the plank and plunge into the depths |
| 03:23.13 | bugQ | they're quite something |
| 03:23.58 | TheRedBaron | ~keelhaul SportChick |
| 03:23.58 | ibot | ACTION and SportChick keelhaul all the barons and their followers for being such dastardly pirates |
| 03:24.12 | TheRedBaron | oi! they still backfire! |
| 03:24.23 | bugQ | ha! |
| 03:24.55 | SportChick | lol |
| 03:24.57 | spldart | DROWNING POOOL~!!!!1 |
| 03:27.10 | TheRedBaron | spldart: how could you forget them? |
| 03:27.19 | SportChick | ~gaol TheRedBaron |
| 03:27.19 | ibot | ACTION drags TheRedBaron off to the stinky, smelly, primitive gaol (similar to the one they closed in Perth only a few years ago) and leaves TheRedBaron to swelter in 120 degree heat interminably |
| 03:27.56 | TheRedBaron | suspects SportChick of cheating |
| 03:28.15 | SportChick | ~taunt TheRedBaron |
| 03:28.15 | ibot | ACTION taunts TheRedBaron a second time |
| 03:28.41 | bugQ | ~lart everyone |
| 03:28.41 | ibot | hereby declares everyone a troll |
| 03:29.04 | Thumper_ | watches the sun come up and everyone turns into stone |
| 03:31.14 | JeffM | ponders taking a happy pill |
| 03:31.25 | spldart | x x baby |
| 03:31.36 | JeffM | for my toof |
| 03:31.50 | spldart | oh :\ |
| 03:32.15 | JeffM | now has 4 CnC milled ceramic subdermal implants |
| 03:32.39 | bugQ | subdermal, huh? ouch. |
| 03:32.41 | Thumper_ | ouch (for both your mouth and your pocket book) |
| 03:32.53 | JeffM | well 2 of them are subdermal ish |
| 03:33.09 | TheRedBaron | ~pie SportChick |
| 03:33.10 | ibot | ACTION hits SportChick in the face with a cream pie |
| 03:34.24 | SportChick | heya JeffM |
| 03:34.29 | JeffM | hello |
| 03:34.31 | JeffM | how are you? |
| 03:34.36 | SportChick | ~shower TheRedBaron |
| 03:34.37 | ibot | *sniff* *sniff* hmmm, TheRedBaron, you smell awful... you need a shower ASAP! |
| 03:34.44 | SportChick | I'm good...u ? |
| 03:35.14 | JeffM | sore. |
| 03:35.18 | JeffM | had massive dental work |
| 03:36.26 | spldart | needs the aforementioned massive dental work but keeps putting it off cuz of bad memories of braces and adult teeth removals. |
| 03:36.28 | SportChick | JeffM: ow :( |
| 03:36.55 | JeffM | I'll live :) |
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| 03:43.35 | TheRedBaron | poeks SportChick and runs |
| 03:43.38 | TheRedBaron | *pokes |
| 03:43.54 | SportChick | ~trip TheRedBaron |
| 03:43.55 | ibot | ACTION sticks her foot out and trips TheRedBaron so he falls flat on their face. |
| 03:46.24 | TheRedBaron | aww, escalation :( |
| 03:47.45 | spldart | hrm.. Peeks and Pokes... How Commodore Vic20 and C64 |
| 03:59.03 | Abominable | My server is giving me a hard time, and it wont show up on the list |
| 03:59.07 | Abominable | This is what it's telling me http://pastebin.com/m4dcb549e |
| 04:00.23 | AAA_awright | Abominable: Run bzfs with -dddd |
| 04:00.38 | AAA_awright | It should say something about ADD somewhere |
| 04:00.54 | AAA_awright | if -public *and* -publicaddr is specified |
| 04:01.31 | Abominable | Ok did that |
| 04:01.34 | Abominable | Lemme see |
| 04:03.08 | Abominable | http://pastebin.com/m18647720 |
| 04:03.13 | Abominable | But that's in my config already |
| 04:03.22 | Abominable | -publicaddr blizz.servebeer.com:4701 |
| 04:06.45 | Abominable | scratches his head |
| 04:07.27 | AAA_awright | Hm, that should do it... There is no -advertise is there? |
| 04:07.28 | Abominable | http://pastebin.com/m750f76fc there's my config |
| 04:08.24 | AAA_awright | That should do it |
| 04:08.34 | AAA_awright | Is the server running right now? |
| 04:10.59 | Abominable | Yeah |
| 04:11.14 | Abominable | blizz.servebeer.com:4701 |
| 04:11.23 | Abominable | But it wont identify regged users |
| 04:12.02 | Abominable | and I can't connect through that either |
| 04:12.24 | Abominable | if you do bzflag.planet-mofo.com:4701 it works |
| 04:13.46 | Abominable | grr, Idk what the deal is |
| 04:13.48 | AAA_awright | Abominable: You need to set up DNS to point to an IP |
| 04:13.52 | AAA_awright | ping: unknown host blizz.servebeer.com |
| 04:14.08 | Abominable | That's strange |
| 04:14.10 | AAA_awright | The list server checks the given -publicaddr |
| 04:14.15 | Abominable | That's the one I've always used before |
| 04:14.33 | blast007 | Abominable: is that a dyndns.org address? |
| 04:14.57 | Abominable | no-ip.com |
| 04:15.01 | blast007 | k |
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| 04:39.41 | FusionDude | does anyone have strong feelings about how the rabbit scoring is done? |
| 04:46.36 | FusionDude | more precisely, a player with no kills/deaths starts at 50% |
| 04:46.43 | FusionDude | I'd like to change that to 0% |
| 04:48.02 | FusionDude | ~wake #bzflag |
| 04:48.03 | ibot | ACTION throws a barrel-full of ice water on #bzflag and shouts "GOOD MORNING!!!!" |
| 04:49.02 | short_circuit | yikes |
| 04:49.08 | bugQ | yawns |
| 04:49.10 | short_circuit | has a heart attack and dies |
| 04:49.54 | JeffM | I'd expose it to the API and then let plugins change it from the curent default |
| 04:52.15 | JeffM | you could also do a command line option for what to default it to |
| 04:52.45 | FusionDude | ok |
| 04:54.57 | short_circuit | 's rotting corpse slumps over in the chair striking the power butto.... |
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| 05:20.28 | blast007 | FusionDude: so would players that had more deaths than kills have a negative percentage? |
| 05:23.07 | bugQ | you're talking about how you can rejoin to reset your score, ya? if the player sucks, his score will just go down again |
| 05:23.35 | bugQ | but couldn't hurt to let plugins (like mine) tweak it |
| 05:24.14 | FusionDude | blast007: no, the percentage is fixed between 0 and 100 |
| 05:24.40 | blast007 | sounds like there is still an advantage to rejoining |
| 05:24.59 | blast007 | they'd be closing to being able to have a percentage greater than 0 |
| 05:25.09 | blast007 | closer* |
| 05:25.44 | bugQ | if it starts at 0, it will only go up until you get a kill ratio > 1 |
| 05:26.01 | bugQ | oh, duh. right |
| 05:26.05 | blast007 | if someone is at 0/20 for kills/deaths, they'd need 20 kills to break even. But if they rejoin, they'll be at 0/0, and 1 kill will get them >0 for the percentage |
| 05:26.41 | FusionDude | if you are at 0, you aren't likely to have the top score |
| 05:26.55 | FusionDude | that's all that the score really matters for in rabbit hunt |
| 05:27.02 | blast007 | what problem are you trying to fix? |
| 05:27.30 | bugQ | there is bound to be someone >50%, how do the other players get killed otherwise? |
| 05:27.39 | FusionDude | (good) players who rejoin to be top score (50%) so they can be anointed rabbit rather than earn it |
| 05:27.51 | FusionDude | bugQ: surprisingly, not always |
| 05:28.09 | bugQ | scores should be normalized, then |
| 05:28.11 | blast007 | FusionDude: and how would starting people at 0 really help that much? |
| 05:28.25 | FusionDude | it would keep them from starting as the high score |
| 05:28.30 | FusionDude | you would have to earn it |
| 05:28.47 | bugQ | if scores are normalized, everyone starts at the middle of the pack |
| 05:28.51 | FusionDude | bugQ: they are not |
| 05:28.53 | blast007 | but if everyone was at 0, nobody would have the highest |
| 05:29.02 | FusionDude | the longer you play, the harder it is to maintain a score > 50 |
| 05:29.36 | bugQ | yes, I'm saying that the solution is not simply to change the starting % |
| 05:30.15 | FusionDude | the score computation is ( kills / (kills + deaths) ) * ( 1 - 0.5/sqrt(kills + deaths) ) |
| 05:31.09 | FusionDude | I'm not trying to fix where someone joins, kills 3 people and has a 70% ratio |
| 05:31.21 | FusionDude | that takes care of itself pretty quickly |
| 05:31.24 | blast007 | this also mainly applies when you're using the rabbit selection method that bases it on score |
| 05:31.29 | FusionDude | correct |
| 05:31.39 | FusionDude | (random rabbit is way cool, by the way) |
| 05:31.44 | blast007 | :) |
| 05:32.07 | bugQ | has stopped caring, in that case |
| 05:33.50 | bugQ | I just never play for score |
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| 05:35.35 | blast007 | it does come into play other times, such as when the rabbit and the killer both die (when the rabbit mode is set to killer) |
| 05:35.41 | blast007 | or when the rabbit leaves the server |
| 05:35.55 | FusionDude | yes, that's what I am really after |
| 05:36.34 | FusionDude | join... find GM.... sit in camping spot... wait for rabbit to kill self... rack up kills.... repeat |
| 05:37.14 | Thumper_ | blast007: or if the rabbit pauses |
| 05:38.37 | blast007 | FusionDude: sit by the guy that is waiting for the rabbit to shoot himself ;D |
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| 05:39.07 | FusionDude | I have done that before, but it's too boring for me ;-) |
| 05:43.07 | CIA-37 | BZFlag: 03bugQ * r18305 10/trunk/bzflag/plugins/webadmin/ (6 files in 2 dirs): |
| 05:43.07 | CIA-37 | BZFlag: back to HTML 4 |
| 05:43.07 | CIA-37 | BZFlag: a bit of style |
| 05:43.07 | CIA-37 | BZFlag: output of bz_setBZDBString() is not useful to me |
| 05:45.19 | bugQ | hmph |
| 05:47.33 | CIA-37 | BZFlag: 03bugQ * r18306 10/trunk/bzflag/plugins/webadmin/templates/ (header.tmpl main.tmpl): nicer-looking main page |
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| 05:48.03 | bugQ | all right, g'night all |
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| 05:56.06 | blast007 | cya |
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| 06:21.56 | Abominable | ~sleep |
| 06:21.57 | ibot | rumour has it, sleep is overrated, and a poor substitute for caffeine. |
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| 13:36.10 | ahs3- | http://pastebin.com/m64c725b5 |
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| 15:01.22 | Winny | TJ13820: having fun? |
| 15:01.34 | TJ13820 | oh, sorry |
| 15:01.42 | Winny | :P |
| 15:01.46 | TJ13820 | i'm having an issue with my mac |
| 15:01.53 | Winny | What's up |
| 15:02.00 | TJ13820 | I'm setting up a hostmask |
| 15:02.07 | TJ13820 | or attemping to do so. |
| 15:02.20 | TJ13820 | and i use a terminal based client in Mac OS X 10.4 |
| 15:02.34 | Winny | Irssi? |
| 15:02.59 | TJ13820 | no i made it |
| 15:03.25 | TJ13820 | it is a simple client. /msg /say and regular type to speak to channel. |
| 15:03.32 | TJ13820 | other than that, you must type in commands. |
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| 15:06.08 | TJ13820 | gah |
| 15:06.16 | TJ13820 | it quits on me after 5 minutes |
| 15:06.26 | TJ13820 | i think the local identd is messed up |
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| 16:18.50 | CIA-36 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r18307 10/trunk/bzflag/ (3 files in 2 dirs): more attempts to get bots to be alive |
| 16:31.34 | FusionDude | ~botmail TJ13820 if your client doesn't respond to PING messages, you will be dropped |
| 16:33.05 | CIA-36 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r18308 10/trunk/bzflag/ (4 files in 2 dirs): add bz_zapPlayer to force players to do a respawn. Combined with spawn overrides, this lets the API move players around. |
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| 17:22.53 | T-BOT | Hi there TJ13820, welcome to #bzflag |
| 17:25.50 | JeffMMain | what is that? |
| 17:25.55 | TJ13820 | hmm |
| 17:26.03 | JeffMMain | tbot? |
| 17:26.07 | TJ13820 | sorry, i'm trying to get somethign to work |
| 17:26.16 | JeffMMain | then don't do it on #bzflag |
| 17:26.20 | JeffMMain | use #botpark |
| 17:26.25 | JeffMMain | that's what it's for |
| 17:26.31 | TJ13820 | ...i didn't know of #botpark |
| 17:26.32 | TJ13820 | xD |
| 17:26.36 | TJ13820 | sorry, for that |
| 17:26.44 | JeffMMain | no prob |
| 17:26.51 | JeffMMain | we just don't need more bots here |
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| 17:28.02 | TJ13820 | sorry |
| 17:28.14 | JeffMMain | take all refrences to #bzflag out of it's config |
| 17:28.18 | TJ13820 | i did |
| 17:28.22 | TJ13820 | it is a bot with a GUI |
| 17:28.39 | JeffMMain | what are you going to use it for? |
| 17:28.43 | TJ13820 | my channel |
| 17:32.14 | JeffMMain | recomends that TJ13820 type in his channel name rather then bzflag ;) |
| 17:34.31 | TJ13820 | i did xD |
| 17:36.02 | JeffMMain | coo |
| 17:39.45 | TJ13820 | now it works |
| 17:39.48 | TJ13820 | i had a bad flag |
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| 17:46.00 | blast007 | TJ13820: right turn only? ;) |
| 17:46.08 | TJ13820 | hah |
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| 18:29.39 | JeffMMain | where is it this year? |
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| 18:45.13 | SportChick | siggraph: you around still? |
| 18:50.17 | SportChick | JeffMMain: out here |
| 18:50.23 | JeffMMain | ahh |
| 18:50.28 | JeffMMain | we should go meet him |
| 18:53.15 | SportChick | I think he said he was bringing a large group with him this year - not sure if he has time |
| 18:53.24 | SportChick | how's your tooth? |
| 18:54.26 | JeffMMain | acceptable |
| 18:55.54 | SportChick | :) |
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| 22:31.57 | Winny | ~JeffM++ |
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| 22:44.51 | siggraph | SportChick: yeah, just got in yesterday |
| 22:45.11 | siggraph | in cali through fri |
| 22:45.48 | JeffM | siggraph: you gonna have time for a dinner? |
| 22:51.48 | SportChick | pokes siggraph |
| 23:02.27 | Winny | blast007: ahh. He probably runs as a limited user most of the time |
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