IRC log for #bzflag on 20081123

00:02.07corndawg__k who recomends what .. for map making with bzflag v2?
00:03.02corndawg__wait  n/m
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00:33.18CIA-39BZFlag: 03trepan * r18969 10/trunk/bzflag/src/game/MapInfo.cxx: * discard trailing whitespac for mapinfo values (in the map<>)
00:35.55CIA-39BZFlag: 03trepan * r18970 10/trunk/bzflag/ (5 files in 2 dirs):
00:35.55CIA-39BZFlag: * added BZF_API bz_registerCustomMapObject2(object, endToken, handler),
00:35.55CIA-39BZFlag:  which allows you to specify the closing tag for custom objects
00:35.55CIA-39BZFlag:  (to avoid 'end--' for lua, and allows scripting language which can
00:35.55CIA-39BZFlag:  use multiline text to easily embed bzw code)
00:36.22AAA_awrighttrepan: Why didn't you branch first, to merge later? That was never clarified, is it just too hard to merge? I haven't tried it in SVN...
00:37.27CIA-39BZFlag: 03trepan * r18971 10/trunk/bzflag/plugins/lua/ (bzdb.cpp callouts.cpp example/bzfs.lua mapobject.cpp): * setup the lua plugin to use bz_registerCustomMapObject2()
00:38.32trepanI find that large merges are more prone to errors
00:38.59trepanif yall want to complain about my commit style, i'll commit elsewhere  ;-)
00:43.58AAA_awrightI maintain http://git.bzfx.net where it shouldn't be too hard to do. In Git, in fact, you can move between branches and reorder commits by hand, no problem :) dozen-way octopus merges have been done on the Linux kernel, it isn't something you usually think about, that is why I ask.
00:44.45trepani started a branch for bz already, and then nuked it -- didn't like going that way
00:47.46AAA_awrightWhich is why branches are useful, what if this ends up becoming too bloated?
00:48.36AAA_awrightHm, I like the plugin
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00:49.05trepanit's a plugin -- bloated?
00:51.29AAA_awrightYeah, I just realized that. I see edits to the main body of the source though.
00:52.07trepanfilling in some bzfsAPI bits that i want
00:52.27trepanthe alternative is to move the lua code into bzfs proper
00:59.32AAA_awrighttrepan: I do quite like the idea of adding more scriptable elements to BZFlag, that is my plan with MasterBot (http://masterbot.sf.net)
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01:36.36spldart= Build: 2 succeeded, 2 failed, 20 up-to-date, 0 skipped = :(
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01:58.21spldartPoo = Build: 7 succeeded, 2 failed, 15 up-to-date, 0 skipped =
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02:06.40DoctorTyrellanyone here?
02:06.47DoctorTyrellFox Burrow has cheater
02:06.48DoctorTyrellagain
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02:07.33DoctorTyrellanyone?
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04:29.57CIA-39BZFlag: 03trepan * r18972 10/trunk/bzflag/ (9 files in 4 dirs):
04:29.57CIA-39BZFlag: * added the following to bzfsAPI:
04:29.57CIA-39BZFlag:  - bool bz_getTeleLinkIDs(const char* teleName, int* frontLink, int* backLink);
04:29.57CIA-39BZFlag:  - const char* bz_getLinkTeleName(int linkIndex);
04:29.58CIA-39BZFlag:  - unsigned int bz_getPhyDrvID(const char* phyDrvName);
04:30.00CIA-39BZFlag:  - const char* bz_getPhyDrvName(unsigned int phyDrvID);
04:30.02CIA-39BZFlag:  (useful items for generating world based events)
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05:34.01CIA-39BZFlag: 03trepan * r18973 10/trunk/bzflag/ (6 files in 5 dirs): (log message trimmed)
05:34.01CIA-39BZFlag: * added the MsgJoinServer message
05:34.01CIA-39BZFlag:  (combined with teleporters, you've got a lobby)
05:34.01CIA-39BZFlag:  (add client-side scripting->rendering, and you've got a good lobby ;-)
05:34.01CIA-39BZFlag: * bumped the protocol to 0069
05:34.04CIA-39BZFlag: * bumped the minor rev to 10
05:34.06CIA-39BZFlag: * added the bzfsAPI bz_sendJoinServer() function
05:34.56trepanhm, not 'minor' rev;  only rev, BZ_REV
06:09.21AAA_awrightHmm, what if I forked bzfs to add D-Bus support?
06:09.46JeffM2501you can do whatever you want in a fork
06:10.20AAA_awrightWell I know that much :) I wonder how much you could do with D-Bus in that sort of setting though.
06:10.51JeffM2501what do you need to comunicate to other processes?
06:11.23AAA_awrightYou could receive log events, send messages, start and stop matches, I wonder if you could do plugin-like stuff too-on the fly, changing shots, handling commands, etc
06:11.54JeffM2501then tehre you go, that's what you could do wiht it ;)
06:13.50CIA-39BZFlag: 03trepan * r18974 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzflag/playing.cxx: * MsgJoinServer with NoTeam uses the player's current menu selected team
06:16.19trepanTransferControl.txt to dictate which source servers can have players join other servers without confirmation? Better name?
06:16.30trepanbetter setup?   :)
06:17.37JeffM2501AutoJoin
06:17.45JeffM2501or something with join in it
06:18.22trepanJoinControl.txt ?  (happy medium)
06:18.22JeffM2501be nice if you could have it have multiple masks, like Manual: *; auto *.bzflag.net;
06:18.25JeffM2501sure
06:18.36JeffM2501then parents could take out the manual and put in just the servers kids could join
06:19.04trepanServerAccess.txt already exists, forgot that when I wrote my little note  ;-)
06:19.21trepanso ... JoinAccess.txt for the confirmation one ?
06:19.27JeffM2501k
06:20.06trepanAutoJoinAccess.txt ... i like your original one better
06:20.21trepanthanks
06:20.33JeffM2501sure
06:21.11trepanwould be good to throw some data into the player join process as well  (ie: i came from this server ...)
06:21.23JeffM2501referer
06:21.37trepancould let the servers chat for a while, and decide how to spawn, etc...
06:21.58JeffM2501the source server should not have anything to say about spawns
06:22.08JeffM2501if someone wants to get that linked they can link up the servers via plugins
06:22.16trepanhehe, <World-Wide Web> A misspelling of "referrer" which somehow made it into the {HTTP} standard.
06:23.04trepanyup, plugins was what I was thinking of as well (at least initially)
06:23.10JeffM2501k
06:28.08CIA-39BZFlag: 03bullet_catcher * r18975 10/trunk/bzflag/configure.ac: Welcome to 2.99.10, to match buildDate.cxx.
06:43.06AAA_awrightMsgJoinServer, hm, good thing or bad? I have wanted it :)
06:44.20AAA_awrightCould be used to handle match scheduling
06:44.40AAA_awrightmakes note to bring it up again soon
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06:50.57corndawgheyas folks
06:51.11blast007yo
06:51.36corndawgblast007 sup
06:51.42blast007not much
06:51.48corndawgah
06:51.52corndawgworkin on a map here
06:52.00corndawgtrying to figure out trampolines
07:02.38corndawgk who here is good at map making?
07:02.44corndawgconfused on the trampolines
07:03.09corndawg# Trampoline
07:03.09corndawgphysics
07:03.09corndawg<PROTECTED>
07:03.09corndawg<PROTECTED>
07:03.09corndawgend
07:03.10corndawgmeshbox
07:03.14corndawg<PROTECTED>
07:03.16corndawg<PROTECTED>
07:03.18corndawg<PROTECTED>
07:03.20corndawgend
07:03.22corndawgi caught that
07:03.24corndawgbut confused on what else needs to go in there for it to work
07:13.41BulletCatcherThat works in my test.
07:14.03corndawgnot here tho
07:14.05corndawgi get..
07:14.28corndawgWarning: disabling speed checking due to physics drivers
07:14.28corndawgWarning: disabling height checking due to physics drivers
07:14.55BulletCatcherThose warnings are normal when physics drivers are enabled.
07:15.23corndawgahh
07:15.37BulletCatcherJust ignore them.
07:15.43corndawgk
07:15.46corndawgthanks
07:15.51BulletCatchernp
07:15.59corndawgohh
07:16.04corndawglandmines.... hah fun
07:16.11corndawgspecially with new playes :D
07:16.26BulletCatcherIt's all fun and games until someone loses a leg.
07:16.45BulletCatcher:-)
07:17.14corndawgha
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14:05.07ashgadgetsSwigg!
14:05.27SwiggGutem morgen
14:05.34ashgadgetsgutem morgen
14:05.47Swiggeich bie lien ein schnitzengeuben?
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14:27.18TD-Linux¿que?
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16:26.11CIA-39BZFlag: 03trepan * r18976 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzflag/CommandsImplementation.cxx: * added the client-side /mapinfo command
16:29.30CIA-39BZFlag: 03trepan * r18977 10/trunk/bzflag/src/game/CommandCompleter.cxx: * added /mapinfo to the word completion list
16:31.50delusionalseems the comment I made yesterday worked out pretty well.  may as well make a couple more...   Trepan, did you see the bug reports I made at sourceforge?   bzfs error reporting does not count drawinfo corners as lines...     and  drawinfo sphere and extents info in /saveworld is incorrect, or not needed, or something i'm not sure exactly.  My proposed solution was to ignore sphere and extents in /saveworld.
16:32.48delusionalas bzfs creates it's own numbers there, when the map is loaded.
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17:08.29corndawghum
17:08.31corndawghi delusional
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17:20.05corndawghi spldart
17:23.19corndawgk what all do i need to do in order to change the map floor?
17:23.41corndawgive seen the code, but cant figure out if theres something else im missing
17:35.28BulletCatcherYou can override the default ground by defining your own material with name "GroundMaterial".
17:41.51corndawgyea thats what i have
17:42.11corndawgmaterial
17:42.11corndawg<PROTECTED>
17:42.11corndawg<PROTECTED>
17:42.12corndawgend
17:42.26corndawghopefully im not missing anything
17:42.48corndawgbut i just restarted the server, and the new ground image didnt show up
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17:51.41joevanocorndawg: that will be blocked by default
17:52.14corndawgoh?
17:52.50corndawgk how would i unblock it then?
17:52.52joevanoyou need to modify your deen to modify your downloadaccess.txt file
17:52.58joevanoneed*
17:53.07corndawgahhh
17:53.19corndawgk would it work if i set it as a file?
17:53.25corndawginstead of a url?
17:53.30joevanolocally yes
17:53.42joevanobut not to anyone connecting
17:53.59corndawghum k
17:54.40temp_distunless they edit the downloadaccess.txt file on their system
17:54.54joevanoyou can submit it here to be hosted on the bzflag image list that is not blocked by default as well http://images.bzflag.org/submitimages/
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17:55.06corndawgk
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18:19.05giovla~bzfquery giovle.dyn-o-saur.com:5154
18:19.51giovla~bzfquery bzflag.secretplace.us:5255
18:20.45giovla~bzfquery giovle.dyn-o-saur.com:5154
18:21.20CIA-39BZFlag: 03trepan * r18978 10/trunk/bzflag/ (19 files in 9 dirs):
18:21.20CIA-39BZFlag: * bumped BZ_PROTO_VERSION to 0070
18:21.20CIA-39BZFlag: * bumped BZ_REV to 11
18:21.20CIA-39BZFlag: * added the 'referrer' parameter to the join information (256 bytes)
18:21.20CIA-39BZFlag: * added bzfsAPI bz_getPlayerReferrer()
18:21.21CIA-39BZFlag: * added BZ.GetPlayerReferrer() to the lua plugin
18:22.37trepan256 bytes should be more than enough to pass across position, rotation, score, a checksum, etc...  (src and dst servers could use a simple encryption with a shared key as well)
18:25.20corndawgwonders how long it takes for a moderator to validate the image i just uploaded
18:25.31temp_distlonger if you bug them
18:27.14corndawgnot bugging anyone, just havnt uploaded to the site before
18:28.18temp_distthey regularly check it
18:28.43corndawgah k
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19:03.43CIA-39BZFlag: 03trepan * r18979 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzfs/bzfsAPI.cxx: * oops, removed dev cruft
19:06.07CIA-39BZFlag: 03trepan * r18980 10/trunk/bzflag/ (include/bzfsAPI.h src/bzfs/bzfsAPI.cxx): * changed bz_getPhyDrvID() return type from 'unsigned int' to 'int'
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19:22.53corndawgjoevano, thats for the info
19:22.56corndawgthat worked :)
19:23.13corndawgaltho screencapture for some reason takes poor in game pictures
19:24.54joevanoyou using f5?
19:25.29corndawgno, i knew the was a picture feature in bzflag, but couldnt remember what key it was
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20:22.35corndawghi trepan
20:23.28trepancorndawg: are you a bot?
20:23.44corndawglol id hope not why?
20:24.19trepanyou say:  hi <name>  for every user that joins this channel
20:24.28trepanimagine that everyone in this channel did that ...
20:24.31corndawgeh not all
20:24.33corndawgjust a few
20:26.38corndawghah guess im too used to being an irc admin
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20:47.14CIA-39BZFlag: 03bullet_catcher * r18981 10/trunk/bzflag/src/other/lua/src/ (Makefile Makefile.orig): Rename upstream Makefile to Makefile.orig, matching the EXTRA_DIST section of ../Makefile.am.
20:59.45corndawgk now wheres bzflag ave the snapshots at?
20:59.53corndawgave = save
21:00.37Tuponelinux?
21:01.05corndawgyea i found it :)
21:01.08corndawgits in  .bzf
21:01.13Tuponeyep
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