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| 01:14.02 | spldart | eww... anyone linux build Rev #19071? Mine is going tango uniform |
| 01:14.45 | blast007 | spldart: where at in the codebase? |
| 01:14.50 | spldart | Things go south at ftgl |
| 01:15.02 | blast007 | ah, can't check that from here then |
| 01:15.12 | blast007 | was gonna try building it on my server ;) |
| 01:15.25 | spldart | *** No rule to make target `m4/ac_python_devel.m4', needed by `Makefile .in'. Stop. |
| 01:15.35 | blast007 | did you run autogen and configure? |
| 01:15.36 | spldart | that's debug build in debian etch |
| 01:16.17 | spldart | I "svn up, make dist-clean, autogen.sh, configure --enable-debug, nice make" |
| 01:16.25 | spldart | oops |
| 01:16.26 | blast007 | k |
| 01:16.42 | spldart | I make dist-clean first IIRC... not that that makes a diff |
| 01:16.53 | blast007 | it can |
| 01:17.03 | blast007 | probably better to do it in that order |
| 01:17.05 | spldart | oh realy? I learn something |
| 01:17.37 | spldart | order? dist-clean first? or the other way around? |
| 01:17.44 | blast007 | I had make dist-clean fail after an 'svn up' before, iirc |
| 01:17.51 | spldart | Ah |
| 01:17.54 | spldart | ok |
| 01:17.58 | spldart | I'll keep that in mind. |
| 01:18.00 | blast007 | but maybe my memory is failing ;) |
| 01:18.04 | spldart | but no errors there |
| 01:18.10 | spldart | Makes sense blast |
| 01:18.24 | blast007 | I can try a build when I get home |
| 01:18.32 | blast007 | I have a system with X.org there |
| 01:18.35 | spldart | I can see that... although I think that might be a not so clean code though |
| 01:18.41 | spldart | oki doke |
| 01:19.06 | blast007 | I'm doing a build on my server to see if I get any errors there, but I can't build the client |
| 01:23.11 | blast007 | yeah, no explosions on bzfs or bzadmin ;) |
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| 01:43.54 | trepan | spldart: do you get "Build ftgl ........: no (using system)" from ./configure ? |
| 01:44.38 | trepan | (fwiw, clean r19071 worked for me: autogen.sh; configure --enable-debug; make) |
| 01:45.06 | spldart | Build ftgl ........: yes |
| 01:47.52 | trepan | i'll try --enable-ftgl-build |
| 01:48.38 | trepan | yup, same problem "No rule to make target `m4/ac_python_devel.m4'..." |
| 01:50.50 | trepan | copied the m4 files from src/bzflag/, and now it works |
| 01:51.19 | spldart | oh |
| 01:51.31 | spldart | copy what? ;) |
| 01:51.55 | trepan | copied the m4 files from src/bzflag/m4/*.m4 (the ones it complains about) |
| 01:52.01 | trepan | one sec, i'll commit |
| 01:52.12 | trepan | brlcad or other can fix later as required ;-) |
| 01:53.27 | spldart | jests |
| 01:53.43 | CIA-43 | BZFlag: 03trepan * r19072 10/trunk/bzflag/src/other/ftgl/m4/ (8 files): * copied some *.m4 files from src/bzflag/m4/ to make ftgl compile |
| 01:54.24 | trepan | see how that treats ya |
| 01:54.32 | spldart | all righty then |
| 01:56.30 | spldart | it's treating me poorly actually |
| 01:56.33 | spldart | lol |
| 01:58.24 | trepan | and? |
| 01:58.49 | me1 | guess it didn't like him talking bad about it. |
| 01:58.57 | trepan | heh |
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| 01:59.38 | spldart | Wow.... Nobody build in linux @ the moment |
| 01:59.50 | spldart | I got locked in an infinite loop of copying ftgl |
| 01:59.57 | spldart | OS went unresponsive |
| 02:00.13 | trepan | copying ftgl ? |
| 02:00.17 | spldart | guess I should have 'nice' d my make |
| 02:00.43 | spldart | it got to the make 900 something copy ftgl and then went blank... scrolling the screen up to that point |
| 02:01.01 | spldart | Lemee see if I can reproduce then halt succesfully then cut and paste this time |
| 02:02.47 | spldart | http://pastebin.bzflag.bz/m1ce36caf Sry.. not quite copy ftgl is it... but that make [number] will climb infinitly |
| 02:02.55 | spldart | goes to do fresh clean |
| 02:04.00 | trepan | you have a ghost in your machine |
| 02:04.14 | spldart | Nice |
| 02:04.18 | spldart | sux to be me ;) |
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| 02:06.34 | trepan | hm, should not have need to add those *.m4 files, Makefile.am has "ACLOCAL_AMFLAGS = -I m4" |
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| 02:07.22 | trepan | *needed |
| 02:14.38 | spldart | mindstormkid.. Were you the one that was installing a fresh VC9 EE? |
| 02:14.48 | spldart | If so did you get a succesful build of 2.99 code? |
| 02:16.13 | MindstormsKid | no, i quit the install :P |
| 02:16.23 | spldart | :-( |
| 02:17.01 | MindstormsKid | decided that downloading 150+ mb for one thing was... silly |
| 02:17.04 | spldart | I waiting for enough people to get vc9 2.99 builds goin to find out if there is or is not an issue with dev code hehe |
| 02:17.12 | spldart | Oki doke |
| 02:18.02 | spldart | Blast and Jeff are fine in vc9, one full and one EE and I'm not having luck after they transition dev code from vc8 to vc9.... :-/ |
| 02:18.17 | spldart | the = dev's in general |
| 02:18.22 | spldart | s the they |
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| 02:30.40 | CIA-43 | BZFlag: 03trepan * r19073 10/trunk/bzflag/ (9 files in 2 dirs): |
| 02:30.40 | CIA-43 | BZFlag: * fixing my ftgl config mistakes |
| 02:30.40 | CIA-43 | BZFlag: 1. removed ftgl from the configure.ac Makefile list |
| 02:30.40 | CIA-43 | BZFlag: 2. removed the extra m4 files |
| 02:30.42 | trepan | spldart: and that should do it... |
| 02:31.42 | CIA-43 | BZFlag: 03trepan * r19074 10/trunk/bzflag/ (4 files in 3 dirs): |
| 02:31.43 | CIA-43 | BZFlag: * BzDocket touchups |
| 02:31.43 | CIA-43 | BZFlag: * StateDatabase whitespace |
| 02:53.33 | spldart | make looks healthier now... waiting for result |
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| 03:06.49 | spldart | did we have a very recent proto change? I started what looks like a succesfful build of 2.99 and I'm not seeing in servers in the list |
| 03:07.22 | trepan | yesterday, iirc ... actually need another one ;-) |
| 03:07.50 | trepan | and a new build system autotools is clunky and convoluted |
| 03:08.02 | spldart | Oh.. nice.. I just had a segfault in the stable repository debian package bzflag ;-0 |
| 03:08.10 | spldart | heh |
| 03:08.10 | trepan | s/system/system,/ |
| 03:09.13 | trepan | was your microwave on? couldn't have been the code, it's stable |
| 03:12.16 | spldart | I think my computer is sensing my current level of irritation... I recently got my Experion credit rating >8-[ |
| 03:12.19 | brlcad | it's usually only convoluted when you don't know what you're doing or when you're doing something wrong :) |
| 03:13.34 | trepan | notice you didn't argue the clunky part ;-) |
| 03:13.52 | trepan | but convoluted, i'd certainly argue that it is, compared to other setups |
| 03:14.07 | spldart | BTW. I'm getting alot of "ASSERTION FAILED (FTGlyph/FTTextureGlyph.cpp:122)(soft): yOffset+destHeight <= " when I exit 2.99. Is that typical at this time? |
| 03:15.13 | brlcad | bz's use of it has a fair bit of clunk to it atm |
| 03:15.29 | trepan | am2cmake, hm ... :) |
| 03:15.42 | brlcad | even compared to the likes of a cmake or ant build, it's not convoluted though |
| 03:16.17 | brlcad | and .am files by themselves are actually pretty nice compared to the syntax of some of the others |
| 03:17.47 | brlcad | but that's such a bikeshed discussion, the convenience tradeoffs and guarantees are pretty obvious |
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| 03:26.07 | trepan | agreed, i'll take a look at alternates (took a keyboard break, had 15 minutes to wait for autogen.sh on bzflag.bz ;-) |
| 03:28.23 | blast007 | bah, missed mindstormskid again... |
| 03:29.15 | iShock | blast007: Whatcha need him for |
| 03:29.15 | brlcad | trepan: cmake is pretty much god at this point -- it'd just take a fair bit of effort to reproduce the cross-platform cleanliness we have now |
| 03:29.28 | brlcad | even with several turds remaining in the .ac |
| 03:29.41 | trepan | s/god/good ? |
| 03:29.58 | brlcad | the external deps are their own issues, cmake or (insert name here) doesn't fix that problem |
| 03:30.00 | blast007 | iShock: was gonna mention that he was probably looking at the DirectX runtime (~86MB) instead of the DirectX SDK (~480MB) ;) |
| 03:30.04 | brlcad | trepan: nope, god |
| 03:30.16 | blast007 | but I guess he gave up building anyway.. |
| 03:30.26 | brlcad | good stuff, the way of the future, the up-n-coming cool child |
| 03:30.44 | trepan | generates msvc, builds with pretty colors :) |
| 03:30.46 | brlcad | just still a pita to put things together in cleanly cross-plat |
| 03:31.20 | brlcad | getting one or two plats, not too bad -- getting 5 or 6 plus all subdeps, as much pita as the autotools |
| 03:31.49 | brlcad | definitely wins out over autotools for small projects |
| 03:35.04 | trepan | and apparently some of the big ones, ex: KDE |
| 03:35.34 | trepan | a fairly sizable codebase, even compared to bz :) |
| 03:38.49 | spldart | blast.. mindstormkid gave up on bothering with vc9 altogether |
| 03:38.54 | spldart | I was waiting for him to come online to see how his vc9 EE experience went... it didn't :( |
| 03:39.30 | JeffM2501 | I'm installing ee on a machine |
| 03:39.56 | spldart | Ah. I assume fresh install and no other vc installed |
| 03:40.18 | brlcad | trepan: yeah, cept that's misleading too |
| 03:40.33 | JeffM2501 | it's a new machine |
| 03:40.44 | JeffM2501 | if it works, I'll remove 9, install 8, then install 9 |
| 03:40.59 | spldart | That much trouble necessary? |
| 03:41.11 | brlcad | getting kde to work under cmake required quite a few cmake mods and fixes for starters, but it's also a very self-contained code with minimal deps |
| 03:41.18 | spldart | I figure if you get a succesful vc9 ee build... |
| 03:41.43 | blast007 | suppose I could try installing 9 on my laptop. I have 2003 and 2005 (full version) on here right now. ;) |
| 03:41.43 | brlcad | so getting the build to work was pretty straightforward once they got multi-targets and dependendencies working |
| 03:41.43 | spldart | you could talk me through my settings to figure any possible problem that could be originating on my end |
| 03:41.48 | blast007 | probably need to free up space first though |
| 03:42.37 | JeffM2501 | blst I have 8 and 9 on my machines |
| 03:42.38 | JeffM2501 | they work fine |
| 03:42.41 | JeffM2501 | I think your's will too |
| 03:42.46 | blast007 | JeffM2501: probably |
| 03:43.04 | JeffM2501 | the only reason to try anything is to replicate his case, EE and EE |
| 03:43.56 | spldart | meh... I hate to be the cause of trouble. |
| 03:49.50 | brlcad | spldart: haha, good one... *ahem* |
| 03:52.33 | spldart | o_O |
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| 05:31.52 | JeffM2501 | clean install of 2008 EE seems to work fine |
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| 14:52.08 | Ratfink | why don't burrowed tanks go through teleporters? |
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| 14:52.45 | me1 | Because they go under them |
| 14:53.01 | Ratfink | so...if I make a teleporter go underground, it will work? |
| 14:53.59 | Ratfink | okay, thank you |
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| 18:03.46 | Ratfink | How do I set a texture for the ground in a map? |
| 18:05.58 | me1 | material with name "GroundMaterial" |
| 18:06.11 | Ratfink | okay, I had the name wrong. Thank you |
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| 23:08.44 | OnlineCop | was browsing through the several sources from an SVN checkout and wondered if it would cause much grief if I were to start commenting all the uncommented code that I came across? |
| 23:12.16 | OnlineCop | The only guidelines I see for making comments appears to be for the cURL library. |
| 23:12.26 | OnlineCop | Is there a standard for bzflag code itself? |
| 23:12.42 | JefferyM | comments? |
| 23:12.48 | OnlineCop | Currect. |
| 23:13.00 | JefferyM | we don't have a comment style |
| 23:13.04 | OnlineCop | /s/u/o/ |
| 23:13.23 | JefferyM | I tend to try to make the code not need comemnts |
| 23:13.27 | OnlineCop | Okay, so would something like /** Function __functionname__ Purpose: ... */ be okay? |
| 23:13.32 | JefferyM | and use understandable names |
| 23:13.46 | JefferyM | if you are going to do that, you'd want to do it in doxygen style |
| 23:13.54 | JefferyM | but that tends to get wordy |
| 23:14.00 | JefferyM | what is your goal? |
| 23:14.04 | OnlineCop | doxygen? Sounds good. |
| 23:14.09 | OnlineCop | Goal? Not much, really. |
| 23:14.18 | OnlineCop | just likes to comment code. |
| 23:14.20 | OnlineCop | :D |
| 23:14.24 | JefferyM | are you just looking for somewhere to help? |
| 23:14.25 | JefferyM | ahh |
| 23:14.32 | OnlineCop | Yea. |
| 23:14.41 | OnlineCop | Because when I start reading others' code, I understand what's going on. |
| 23:14.47 | OnlineCop | Right now, a lot of the programming is over my head. |
| 23:14.57 | JefferyM | how much C++ do you know? |
| 23:14.59 | OnlineCop | Which is why commenting the functions and whatnot would be helpful for me. |
| 23:15.24 | OnlineCop | I know a lot of C++ (I've worked for NinjaBee, who makes XBox 360 and Wii games). |
| 23:15.40 | JefferyM | what did you do for them? |
| 23:15.57 | OnlineCop | Mostly the HUD, different menu screens, etc. |
| 23:16.11 | JefferyM | fun |
| 23:16.20 | JefferyM | bzflag is not a complex game |
| 23:16.27 | OnlineCop | Yea, I've seen. |
| 23:16.33 | OnlineCop | And its HUD appears to be working nicely. |
| 23:16.50 | OnlineCop | So once I start familiarizing myself with its internals, I may be actually useful. |
| 23:17.58 | Erroneous | heh |
| 23:18.26 | Erroneous | bzflag's hud is like nothing you've ever seen. I can just about guarantee it :) |
| 23:18.43 | OnlineCop | Actually... it looked very familiar. |
| 23:18.56 | OnlineCop | Some of my projects looked and "felt" a lot the same. |
| 23:19.01 | JefferyM | he means in code |
| 23:19.02 | JefferyM | not in look |
| 23:19.05 | OnlineCop | Ah. |
| 23:19.08 | JefferyM | it's butt simple in look |
| 23:19.17 | OnlineCop | Yea, that's what I'd have to sort through. |
| 23:19.34 | Erroneous | under the hood. the surface mechanics are just basic UI, which is pretty standard. |
| 23:19.51 | OnlineCop | will have to take a look. |
| 23:19.57 | Erroneous | you're welcome to add comments, doxygen style preferred |
| 23:20.20 | OnlineCop | Alright, thanks. |
| 23:21.18 | Erroneous | and this is the right place to ask if you don't understand something |
| 23:21.41 | OnlineCop | ..unless it's directly related with doxygen formatting (which I'm looking up now...) |
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| 23:24.53 | Erroneous | there are several different doxygen-accepted styles. you can have a look at one of our existing doxygenized files if you want to be consistent. Flag.h and StateDatabase.h are pretty good examples IIRC. |
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| 23:25.10 | OnlineCop | Good place to start. Thanks for recommending them. |
| 23:26.31 | OnlineCop | Heh: StateDatabase.h's license at the top has the word "LICENSE" where all other source files (and headers) say "COPYING" :D |
| 23:28.21 | OnlineCop | What is the rule on spaces vs. tabs? |
| 23:28.33 | JefferyM | thats in devinfo |
| 23:28.34 | OnlineCop | Leave others' styles alone and make up your own, or conform to a set standard? |
| 23:29.00 | OnlineCop | StateDatabase.h has its class use two spaces for indentation, and then tabs for alignment. |
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| 23:30.34 | JefferyM | it's in the devinfo file |
| 23:30.38 | JefferyM | it documents our style |
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| 23:41.36 | Happy_Alice | JefferyM: ping |
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| 23:50.23 | JefferyM | ? |
| 23:51.23 | Happy_Alice | are u JeffM ? |
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| 23:55.24 | Happy_Alice | JefferyM ? |
| 23:56.45 | spldart | If you have a bzflag development related query you should just go ahead and ask. If jeff doesn't catch it I'm sure someone will eventually. |
| 23:57.04 | me1 | Happy_Alice, yes, he is JeffM |
| 23:57.55 | Happy_Alice | me1: ty |
| 23:58.20 | Happy_Alice | spldart : it is about my translator |
| 23:58.44 | Happy_Alice | spldart: do u agree to speak about it with me? |
| 23:59.16 | JefferyM | Happy_Alice, you don't need to be that formal |
| 23:59.20 | JefferyM | just talk about it |
| 23:59.32 | JefferyM | what did you find out? |
| 23:59.36 | JefferyM | a way to not use google? |
| 23:59.46 | a_meteorite | that's the point of an IRC channel, anyone can discuss anything and have others chime in |
| 23:59.48 | Happy_Alice | ok.... the main problem u have explained to me is about the TOS ? |