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| 02:20.33 | Constitution | did bzflag apply to GSoC this year? |
| 02:28.00 | me1 | iirc, no |
| 02:28.16 | temp_dist | " The organization should choose a single administrator to submit its application via the GSoC web app between March 9-13, 2009. " |
| 02:29.22 | spldart | I'd say gsoc 09 is a dead stick. |
| 02:30.03 | spldart | But that isn't 'official' opinion |
| 02:30.32 | spldart | So "don't quote me boy cuz I aint said......" :) |
| 02:32.02 | Constitution | the entire program or just bzflag's involvement? |
| 02:32.03 | brlcad | org apps just opened up, jeez folks |
| 02:32.15 | spldart | hehe |
| 02:32.37 | spldart | I was referring to bzflag. But I may get smacked on even that ;) |
| 02:32.39 | brlcad | last two years we applied within the last two days |
| 02:33.05 | spldart | ducks |
| 02:33.11 | temp_dist | seems to me that it's been successful those two years |
| 02:34.49 | brlcad | it has been |
| 02:40.54 | Constitution | although (correct me if I'm wrong) it doesn't seem like much work on the projects have been continued on past the end of the program, for the most part |
| 02:41.44 | brlcad | it's varied, couple students have |
| 02:41.54 | brlcad | some for a short time, some not |
| 02:42.20 | brlcad | bzrobots work continued for nearly a year afterwards |
| 02:43.04 | brlcad | part of the issue, though, is that past work has not been well integrated or nearly as heavily collaborated |
| 02:43.28 | brlcad | so the plan this year if we participate will be only a couple students and no new code |
| 02:44.02 | brlcad | only refactoring/cleanup/testing projects or possibly continuation of previous gsoc projects |
| 02:44.40 | brlcad | our sole goal is stabilization for release, so any project will have to help in that regard, not inject new code that might delay us yet another year |
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| 11:37.55 | lut4rp | can i run a bzflag server via command line? |
| 11:39.26 | lut4rp | aha, found bzfs |
| 11:39.38 | lut4rp | neat. |
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| 11:56.45 | brlcad | glad we could be of service |
| 12:03.37 | ruskie | :) |
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| 19:50.27 | randomparticle | bzflag 2.0.x seems to have performance issues when the audio driver is disabled. is this a known issue? |
| 19:57.26 | RatOmeter | randomparticle: Not known to me, but I'd be happy to try to verify the problem. What OS should I try? |
| 19:58.41 | randomparticle | Some variant of windows. I'm on Server 2008. I had the realtek driver disabled because it doesn't agree with Fallout 3 (bizarrely it makes the mouse + keyboard freeze) |
| 19:59.28 | randomparticle | when i noticed it i had vsync set too. framerate was only 20-34 fps, and i usually get the full 60 |
| 19:59.47 | randomparticle | when i enabled the audio driver, it went back up to 60 |
| 20:00.54 | randomparticle | you might try in conjunction with the energy saver too. not sure if i had that on. i sometimes set that to 50, which is as smooth as it needs to be. the vsync is really for other games |
| 20:04.26 | RatOmeter | I've got XP at home, I'll try it when I get there. |
| 20:07.28 | randomparticle | i think what i did is both disable the energy saver and enable the audio driver |
| 20:07.58 | randomparticle | but the energy saver was certainly not set to anything as low as 34fps |
| 20:09.00 | randomparticle | how can i profile a program in visual studio express? it doesn't seem to come with a profiler |
| 20:09.20 | randomparticle | someone online mentioned that is only available in the visual studio team edition |
| 20:12.24 | Ebert | energy saver will mess with your fps |
| 20:12.47 | Ebert | it lowers it quite a bit, cant remember how much |
| 20:12.55 | Ebert | "it" being fps |
| 20:13.45 | randomparticle | yeah, i know. when set to 50, it usually lowers it to 50 |
| 20:13.50 | randomparticle | even with vsync on |
| 20:14.04 | randomparticle | but when i disable the audio driver, that takes a further 20-30 fps off |
| 20:14.24 | randomparticle | i suspect something is waiting for the audio driver to respond |
| 20:14.41 | randomparticle | and that added delay is causing the framerate drop |
| 20:15.00 | randomparticle | but that's just guessing |
| 20:20.35 | RatOmeter | disabling my audio driver under Vista here did not affect my frame rate. |
| 20:20.59 | RatOmeter | 2.0.10, 45 fps with or without the audio driver disabled |
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| 20:22.33 | randomparticle | and energy saver on? |
| 20:22.41 | RatOmeter | enabling power saver took it to 27 fps |
| 20:23.07 | randomparticle | did you restart bzflag after disabling the driver? |
| 20:23.55 | randomparticle | i should have tested without vsync |
| 20:24.00 | randomparticle | then we would know |
| 20:29.06 | RatOmeter | looks to me like power saver is the culprit |
| 20:29.54 | randomparticle | how is it interacting with the audio driver? :) |
| 20:36.24 | randomparticle | ok. i'll reboot into windows and test. i may return tomorrow with the results (i have no windows irc client) |
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| 20:48.58 | RatOmeter | [OT] anyone else here think a 50mm achromatic refractor telescope for $15 is pretty sweet? https://www.galileoscope.org/gs/ |
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