| 00:12.50 | CIA-64 | BZFlag: 03trepan * r20060 10/trunk/bzflag/src/geometry/MeshSceneNode.cxx: * fixed a memory leak |
| 00:18.28 | CIA-64 | BZFlag: 03trepan * r20061 10/trunk/bzflag/src/ (4 files in 2 dirs): * move global.cxx from common/ to game/ |
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| 00:20.26 | CIA-64 | BZFlag: 03trepan * r20062 10/trunk/bzflag/MSVC/build/ (common.vcproj game.vcproj): * updated the MSVC project (manually), for the global.cxx move |
| 00:30.51 | CIA-64 | BZFlag: 03trepan * r20063 10/trunk/bzflag/ (43 files in 10 dirs): (log message trimmed) |
| 00:30.51 | CIA-64 | BZFlag: * re-added the bzfs luaServer code (properly licensing, improperly formatted) |
| 00:30.51 | CIA-64 | BZFlag: * modified the luaServer code from r19739 for recent changes: |
| 00:30.51 | CIA-64 | BZFlag: - added optional positional parameters for the PlaySound() call-out |
| 00:30.52 | CIA-64 | BZFlag: - added the ShotExpiredEvent call-in |
| 00:30.54 | CIA-64 | BZFlag: - added the ShotStoppedEvent call-in |
| 00:30.56 | CIA-64 | BZFlag: - added the ShotRicochetEvent call-in |
| 00:31.06 | trepan | hopefully i re-added the MSVC project changes properly |
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| 00:32.28 | trepan | (i 'svn cp'ed the files back in, so history is maintained) |
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| 01:07.09 | JefferyM | that's just server side right? |
| 01:08.17 | trepan | yup |
| 01:08.23 | JefferyM | cool |
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| 01:37.59 | blast007 | bah, didn't notice that Wyk3d had joined :/ |
| 03:10.34 | brlcad | woot, that be teh awesome |
| 03:17.34 | temp_dist | "svn: Failed to add directory 'src/other/lua': object of the same name already exists" - sorry what is the command to make the source clean? |
| 03:18.05 | delusional_ | i just said forget it and started from scratch |
| 03:19.06 | trepan | temp_dist: you still have a src/other/lua directory? |
| 03:19.09 | delusional_ | there are other lua folders that may need replaced, as well |
| 03:19.22 | trepan | if so, rm -rf src/other/lua; svn u |
| 03:19.27 | trepan | *up |
| 03:20.17 | temp_dist | perfect - thanks |
| 03:20.44 | temp_dist | and I'll do the same for the others |
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| 03:27.12 | noyb | sniffles... |
| 03:27.30 | noyb | hates cheaters. *sob* |
| 03:27.55 | noyb | ok, got that outta the way... :) |
| 03:31.52 | noyb | there's a new anti-cheating client on the way... and it's so secure that *nobody* could possibly cheat. The only downside is, the latency measurements are in units of minutes. |
| 03:32.08 | noyb | ;) |
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| 03:49.58 | phasmophage | Wait, what happened? |
| 03:50.15 | steerpike | ? |
| 03:50.47 | phasmophage | What about cheaters? |
| 03:51.20 | blast007 | you could ask him in a /msg |
| 03:51.44 | phasmophage | Oh, ok. (Sorry) |
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| 04:04.40 | noyb | Frederico was flying without wings, with L at the same time in any direction, instant kills since it looked like he didn't need to aim sometimes. then flying with CL and directional bullets (maintain momentum). all very sad, but he still stunk at the game. :) |
| 04:05.19 | noyb | ok, enuf of that. cya... |
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| 10:00.44 | CIA-64 | BZFlag: 03wyk3d * r20064 10/branches/gsoc_bzauthd/ (13 files in 6 dirs): |
| 10:00.44 | CIA-64 | BZFlag: Fixed Singletons not unloading (added a missing HAVE_ATEXIT define to config.h on windows). |
| 10:00.45 | CIA-64 | BZFlag: Fixed some memory leaks/crashes in the socket library and cleaned up the socket removal logic. |
| 10:00.45 | CIA-64 | BZFlag: Fixed a memory leak in the EventHandler caused by not deleting the data when the event is cancelled. |
| 10:00.45 | CIA-64 | BZFlag: Added an optional cancel function callback to events, which by default just deletes the data. |
| 10:00.47 | CIA-64 | BZFlag: Other cleanups. |
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| 12:45.33 | joevano | ~Wyk3d++ |
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| 13:14.34 | blast007 | Wyk3d: hello :) |
| 13:14.48 | Wyk3d | hi |
| 13:15.04 | blast007 | so what's the status of your project? |
| 13:15.29 | Wyk3d | it's coming along .. have to make up for tons of lost time |
| 13:15.53 | Wyk3d | the groups seem to work now |
| 13:16.01 | blast007 | cool |
| 13:16.18 | blast007 | does the server and client make use of the daemon? |
| 13:16.35 | Wyk3d | sure it did so last year already :) |
| 13:16.43 | blast007 | k |
| 13:16.53 | blast007 | haven't tried that yet. I was playing around with the test app |
| 13:16.59 | Wyk3d | but now it sends the interested groups and received the intersected list back |
| 13:17.04 | Wyk3d | *receives |
| 13:18.06 | blast007 | awesome |
| 13:19.42 | blast007 | does it assume any specific LDAP structure? |
| 13:19.42 | Wyk3d | plus it all compiles on linux .. i'm trying to compile it on freebsd now too |
| 13:19.58 | Wyk3d | not really |
| 13:20.29 | Wyk3d | well it assumes that you have pilotPerson, groupOfUniqueNames in the schema |
| 13:42.23 | blast007 | Wyk3d: do you use a GUI to work on your LDAP server? |
| 13:44.01 | Wyk3d | yes i use LDAP Administrator |
| 13:48.02 | Wyk3d | and about specific LDAP structure, i used openldap for both the server and client library, haven't tried connecting to e.g ActiveDirectory with the library |
| 13:48.42 | Wyk3d | though i'm guessing it should work as long as the schema is right |
| 14:01.08 | Wyk3d | test.c:1:18: ldap.h: No such file or directory |
| 14:02.18 | Wyk3d | brlcad: would it be possible to install the development part of openldap ? |
| 14:02.37 | Wyk3d | .. on bzflag.bz |
| 14:03.12 | Wyk3d | wait .. he's not here :) |
| 14:03.39 | Wyk3d | .. just not opped |
| 14:03.45 | blast007 | hehe |
| 14:04.20 | Wyk3d | brlcad: shame on you for hiding amongs the commoners :) |
| 14:27.29 | blast007 | Wyk3d: is it worth commiting a fix for the bzauthd_test application? (so that it builds) |
| 14:37.59 | Wyk3d | sure |
| 14:39.19 | Wyk3d | yeah forgot to change the paths there |
| 14:42.29 | blast007 | also needed to include conio.h in a couple files for kbhit and getch |
| 14:43.02 | CIA-64 | BZFlag: 03blast007 * r20065 10/branches/gsoc_bzauthd/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Make the bzauthd test app build. |
| 14:45.04 | blast007 | cygal: I've been trying to fix the custom data (such as "motto") in trunk. The server is broadcasting the MsgAddPlayer followed by the MsgPlayerData, but the client is processing them in the opposite order |
| 14:45.12 | blast007 | haven't been able to determine why yet |
| 14:45.32 | blast007 | but it makes the custom data not get stored, since the client doesn't yet have a player record for that player |
| 14:47.23 | blast007 | not sure if the server is sending them in the opposite order, or if the client is just processing the packets in the other order |
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| 14:51.28 | cygal | I can have a look, sure |
| 14:52.16 | cygal | reading the backlog |
| 14:54.19 | blast007 | Wyk3d: does it matter what password encryption I use? |
| 14:55.26 | Wyk3d | must be md5 |
| 14:55.34 | blast007 | ok |
| 14:55.55 | blast007 | how hard would it be to support SSHA? |
| 14:56.11 | blast007 | md5 isn't very secure anymore |
| 14:56.59 | Wyk3d | if gcrypt supports that too, not hard .. i used md5 because that's what phpbb used |
| 14:57.08 | blast007 | phpbb3 doesn't |
| 14:57.31 | blast007 | though it also doesn't technically use a format that we can migrate into LDAP |
| 14:57.40 | blast007 | users will have to do a conversion |
| 14:58.34 | blast007 | I think they do a mix of MD5 and SHA/SSHA |
| 14:58.40 | Wyk3d | what does it use ? |
| 14:58.54 | Wyk3d | .. that |
| 15:00.09 | Wyk3d | i think as long as the last digest they create is one that ldap supports it can work |
| 15:00.50 | Wyk3d | (you compute the previous parts and use the result as the password to try and connect with |
| 15:01.19 | Wyk3d | s/connect/bind |
| 15:05.33 | Wyk3d | http://www.phpbbhacks.com/forums/phpbb3-password-hashing-vt73283.html |
| 15:05.54 | Wyk3d | according to that the last step is md5 so that's good, but that sure looks complicated :-/ |
| 15:06.25 | blast007 | yeah, was reading through the source |
| 15:06.46 | TD-Linux | I question this habit of hashing hashes |
| 15:08.20 | blast007 | Wyk3d: I guess we'll worry about what hashing method to use later |
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| 15:17.12 | ts | blast007: I've seen a wiki entry regarding a release candidate. Will now be aimed to get the "3.0" thing out? |
| 15:17.32 | blast007 | that's the idea |
| 15:17.33 | blast007 | :) |
| 15:17.57 | blast007 | still some critical bugs that need to get taken care of |
| 15:18.11 | ts | blast007: What is the strategy? Try to fix svn trunk or to redo based on v2_0branch? |
| 15:19.30 | blast007 | redo? |
| 15:19.35 | blast007 | it's gonna be trunk |
| 15:20.03 | blast007 | fixing trunk* |
| 15:20.12 | ts | Wow..good luck |
| 15:23.10 | blast007 | so what would you suggest? dumping all the work we've done and wait another two years for a release? |
| 15:23.53 | ts | I am not sugesting anything, I only asked. |
| 15:27.59 | cygal | ts: do you think trunk is that broken? |
| 15:29.19 | CIA-64 | BZFlag: 03Ts 07http://my.bzflag.org * r6520 10/w/Talk:V3RCChecklist: New page: Could you please make sure inertia can be deactivated completely? GU league does not use inertia and I bet the league is not going to use it. Last time I tested it did not work and interti... |
| 15:35.37 | blast007 | cygal: also, related to the issue I mentioned, that same thing might also be causing issues with flgs |
| 15:35.41 | blast007 | flags* |
| 15:35.57 | blast007 | when you join a game in progress, you don't get what flag a player has |
| 15:36.10 | blast007 | so it shows they don't have a flag in the right click identification, and on the scoreboard |
| 15:36.10 | cygal | confirmed |
| 15:36.17 | blast007 | but a flag will appear on the tank |
| 15:36.37 | cygal | handleServerMessage in client receives the messages in the wrong order |
| 15:36.44 | blast007 | ok |
| 15:37.33 | blast007 | that might take care of several bugs |
| 15:37.52 | blast007 | cuz I know another one is where the shot path will differ on the client that is shooting and the other players |
| 15:38.07 | blast007 | and the player that shoots sends a position update right before the shot |
| 15:38.34 | blast007 | so if it's in the other order, the other clients might have a slightly older position ;) |
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| 15:48.48 | cygal | added to my bugs list - will work on it as soon as possible |
| 15:48.55 | cygal | got to go, see you later :) |
| 15:52.10 | blast007 | cya |
| 15:53.59 | SportChick | wonders how GSoC is going |
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| 16:14.05 | randomparticle | go ahead janis. am waiting :) |
| 16:14.44 | Janis_ | so who is us? |
| 16:15.13 | Janis_ | snick? |
| 16:15.54 | Janis_ | you here? |
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| 16:16.15 | delusional_ | we have met the enemy, and he is us. |
| 16:17.26 | randomparticle | yes |
| 16:17.39 | randomparticle | ok. janis open a map file in blender |
| 16:17.46 | randomparticle | and he saw holes in a simple block |
| 16:17.55 | randomparticle | so he's assuming that's why shots can sometimes go through |
| 16:17.57 | randomparticle | blocks |
| 16:18.05 | randomparticle | please put him out of his misery :) |
| 16:18.45 | randomparticle | it's a simple block, janis. if you see holes in blender, it's only because that's how blender is rendering it |
| 16:20.21 | blast007 | shots going through a tank? |
| 16:21.12 | Xell_ | btw, why can you shot ppl through the base actually? The base is not even thin |
| 16:21.27 | blast007 | Xell_: magic |
| 16:21.43 | Xell_ | Ah, i knew it |
| 16:21.44 | blast007 | I don't think that works in 2.99.x code |
| 16:21.53 | randomparticle | it's the math error where shots go through blocks |
| 16:22.06 | randomparticle | that has been corrected in 2.99 |
| 16:22.25 | randomparticle | janis thinks blocks have small holes in them |
| 16:22.31 | blast007 | o.O |
| 16:22.32 | randomparticle | if you look at them real close :) |
| 16:22.34 | SportChick | hiya randomparticle |
| 16:22.38 | randomparticle | hi |
| 16:22.51 | TD-Linux | I never even heard of this error... |
| 16:22.51 | blast007 | yeah, that's *not* why you can shoot someone through a wall |
| 16:23.01 | TD-Linux | randomparticle: stipple shadows? |
| 16:23.04 | randomparticle | yeah, that's a diff bug |
| 16:23.14 | randomparticle | that's more tank-through-wall than shot-through-wall |
| 16:23.19 | TD-Linux | BTW I should see if stencil shadows have been fixed in 2.99 |
| 16:23.48 | randomparticle | do you know where the old gu articles are archived, sc? |
| 16:23.54 | randomparticle | i have a good screenshot there of this bug |
| 16:24.01 | SportChick | nope, no idea, randomparticle, sorry |
| 16:24.34 | Xell_ | Why bother correcting? a match without extreme bug-using wouldn't look as cool ;) |
| 16:24.52 | blast007 | Xell_: then it won't look as cool in 3.0.0 ;) |
| 16:25.01 | blast007 | cuz some of these are already fixed |
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| 16:25.34 | randomparticle | wb, janis |
| 16:25.45 | randomparticle | did you make a screenshot of your blender screen yet to amuse us? :) |
| 16:26.46 | Xell_ | youre being nasty, snick |
| 16:27.16 | randomparticle | hm.. i wonder where those gu archives went |
| 16:27.21 | randomparticle | there used to a link on the gu home page |
| 16:28.43 | randomparticle | aha. found it. |
| 16:30.36 | randomparticle | oh drat. the screenshots were on bzfusion.net and they've been taken off |
| 16:30.50 | randomparticle | this is the thread anyway: http://www.gamesunited.de/ib/index.php?showtopic=12889&hl= |
| 16:33.17 | randomparticle | without being nasty, if you showed us a screenshot of what you have in blender, we could explain to you why you see holes |
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| 17:01.06 | trepan | for MsgPause, it looks like the actual pause state is client-side controlled (a request is sent to the server, but that's only used to validate the pause) |
| 17:01.30 | trepan | could move it all server-side (flag drops, pause failure messages, etc...) |
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| 17:03.37 | CIA-64 | BZFlag: 03trepan * r20066 10/trunk/bzflag/ (12 files in 7 dirs): |
| 17:03.37 | CIA-64 | BZFlag: * bumped protocol and rev |
| 17:03.37 | CIA-64 | BZFlag: * cleaned up MeshObstacle state bits |
| 17:03.37 | CIA-64 | BZFlag: * cleaned up LuaServer call-outs |
| 17:03.37 | CIA-64 | BZFlag: * added "/luaserver " to the word completion list |
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| 17:04.35 | trepan | and again, for Jeff... ;) |
| 17:04.35 | trepan | for MsgPause, it looks like the actual pause state is client-side controlled (a request is sent to the server, but that's only used to validate the pause) |
| 17:04.35 | trepan | could move it all server-side (flag drops, pause failure messages, etc...) |
| 17:05.50 | JeffM | yeah as much should be server side as possible |
| 17:06.01 | trepan | consider it done ;) |
| 17:06.04 | Yassen | Another problem is that when bzflag is minimized, it sends a MsgPause, but when it is maximized, it doesn't so the server thinks it is still paused when it's not. |
| 17:06.41 | JeffM | it should leave the client in a paused state untill the user manualy unpauses |
| 17:06.49 | JeffM | maximise isn't the same as unpause |
| 17:07.09 | JeffM | the user may need some time to see what the state of the game is before they decide to jump back in. |
| 17:07.16 | trepan | 'pausedByUnmap' is used to track that |
| 17:07.34 | trepan | (currently, doesn't have to be that way) |
| 17:07.40 | JeffM | does it tell the player to hit P to unpause when you maximize? |
| 17:07.44 | Yassen | Nope. |
| 17:07.45 | JeffM | well when you restore |
| 17:07.48 | JeffM | it probalby should |
| 17:08.09 | trepan | doesn't mind auto-unpause when the pause was generated by minimizing |
| 17:08.26 | JeffM | perhaps make it an option? |
| 17:08.29 | trepan | planning to keep that part |
| 17:08.39 | JeffM | I can see reasoning for both ways, it depends why you minimized |
| 17:08.41 | trepan | sure, i'll slap a bzdbVar in there |
| 17:08.47 | JeffM | good enough |
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| 18:12.17 | CIA-64 | BZFlag: 03wyk3d * r20067 10/branches/gsoc_bzauthd/src/ (5 files in 3 dirs): |
| 18:12.17 | CIA-64 | BZFlag: Fixed some LDAP usage related memory leaks. |
| 18:12.17 | CIA-64 | BZFlag: Other cleanups. |
| 18:14.04 | CIA-64 | BZFlag: 03wyk3d * r20068 10/branches/gsoc_bzauthd/ (include/common.h src/bzauthd/TimeKeeper.cxx): Fixed a few compile errors on FreeBSD |
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| 18:49.39 | randomparticle | can we have tripods like in war of the worlds? they are so cool |
| 18:50.34 | trepan | we'll review your patch when you're done |
| 18:52.25 | randomparticle | is ok, but i think there might be a bug with the ray gun |
| 18:52.38 | randomparticle | wrong town keeps getting vaporized |
| 18:52.42 | blast007 | heh |
| 18:56.38 | MindstormsKid | O_o |
| 18:58.04 | JeffM | randomparticle: do you have a patch for your hitbox problem for trunk? |
| 19:00.06 | randomparticle | i did as of february. there are a few cosmetic changes in the SegmentedShotStrategy.cxx code, but it looks like it should be ok. |
| 19:00.13 | randomparticle | would want to doublecheck though |
| 19:00.20 | JeffM | was it submited to SF? |
| 19:00.31 | randomparticle | no, i have a problem accessing my account there |
| 19:00.36 | randomparticle | firefox slows to a crawl |
| 19:00.56 | randomparticle | is that just at my end or does anyone else have that? |
| 19:01.12 | JeffM | other people seem to be able to submit patches |
| 19:01.37 | randomparticle | ok. i can always try again. is a while since i last did (i'd given up trying) |
| 19:02.04 | JeffM | it's a pretty standard web page |
| 19:02.10 | JeffM | but if not can you email it to me please? |
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| 19:02.32 | randomparticle | sure |
| 19:02.32 | JeffM | thanks |
| 19:03.51 | randomparticle | i had two versions. one was trimmed sphere to maintain compatability with bz 2.0.x |
| 19:03.55 | randomparticle | the other was a cylinder |
| 19:04.02 | randomparticle | computationally, there isn't much in it |
| 19:04.09 | randomparticle | the maths is almost identical |
| 19:04.13 | JeffM | yeah they are very similar formulas |
| 19:04.20 | JeffM | just depends when you ignore Z |
| 19:04.23 | randomparticle | yeah |
| 19:04.55 | randomparticle | in some ways it might be better just to go for a plain sphere. tanks are hard enough to hit anyway |
| 19:04.59 | randomparticle | but then you have the problem.. |
| 19:05.14 | randomparticle | of the hitzone projecting through a thin elevated walkway |
| 19:05.22 | JeffM | yeah you want to clamp in Z no mater what |
| 19:05.28 | JeffM | due to the flat nature of objects |
| 19:05.39 | JeffM | it really is a 2.5 d game |
| 19:12.06 | trepan | was thinking of fixing it with a BSS (box swept sphere) option |
| 19:12.57 | JeffM | ok |
| 19:13.13 | JeffM | you think you'll get to it? |
| 19:13.23 | trepan | note the word "option" |
| 19:13.31 | trepan | ya, might be able to by next weekend |
| 19:13.43 | JeffM | why would you not do it all the time? |
| 19:14.03 | trepan | it results in smaller targets |
| 19:14.05 | JeffM | or do you mean "option" as in "would be nice" |
| 19:14.33 | trepan | it's a better test, but league players might not approve |
| 19:14.38 | trepan | simple enough to make it an option |
| 19:14.48 | JeffM | server side I'd hope |
| 19:14.51 | trepan | would you want it visible via the server list ? |
| 19:15.01 | JeffM | I would think you would want every one to play the same in the same game |
| 19:15.01 | trepan | heh, ya, server-side |
| 19:15.15 | JeffM | I'm not sure if players would really understand seeing it in the list |
| 19:15.34 | trepan | probably true, a simple server-side bzdb var then |
| 19:15.36 | JeffM | well if you can hook it up we can playtest it and see if it's still fun |
| 19:15.44 | JeffM | then we can pick a default |
| 19:16.02 | trepan | i'll also be throwing in a BSS expander var |
| 19:16.28 | trepan | default would be 0 (tank volume swept with shot radius) |
| 19:17.15 | trepan | but first, let's see randomparticle's patch ;) |
| 19:17.34 | JeffM | k, so they could make it a larger volume if they want, that will probalby be good enough |
| 19:17.39 | randomparticle | one could bump up the radius a bit for the hitzone calc only |
| 19:17.56 | randomparticle | that's if it seems unplayably small otherwise |
| 19:17.57 | JeffM | that's kinda what he's talking about |
| 19:20.11 | JeffM | it could be ineresting to eventualy try tying that into handycap, the better you are, the bigger your hit zone is :) |
| 19:20.44 | trepan | doesn't like handicap, in any form ;) |
| 19:20.45 | JeffM | but only after we can accurately clip it to objects regardless of thickness |
| 19:20.54 | JeffM | ok, a rabbit mode then ;) |
| 19:20.59 | JeffM | rabbit has a big hit zone |
| 19:21.30 | randomparticle | i wonder if this is interesting: |
| 19:21.30 | randomparticle | http://www.amazon.com/reader/1558607323?_encoding=UTF8&ref_=sib_dp_pt#reader-link |
| 19:21.31 | JeffM | but then it's not vissable |
| 19:21.34 | JeffM | it could be anoying |
| 19:21.58 | JeffM | read it and let us know ;) |
| 19:22.38 | JeffM | wow I could have that sent to my phone for only 47$ ;) |
| 19:23.42 | randomparticle | hehe |
| 19:26.17 | JeffM | I could not imagine reading a techincal book on the phone, it's hard enough to read novels |
| 19:26.30 | JeffM | comics are fine tho |
| 19:27.17 | randomparticle | might be best not to be able to read that book :) |
| 19:27.27 | JeffM | ? |
| 19:28.00 | randomparticle | i've seen some terrible academic (even pseudo-academic) books in my time |
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| 23:02.03 | Supertanker | Five years later, and I'm just starting to learn C. |
| 23:02.07 | Supertanker | shakes his head. |
| 23:03.19 | blast007 | :) |
| 23:03.29 | BulletCatcher | It's never too late to get back on the right path. |
| 23:03.54 | trepan | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:05.03 | Supertanker | http://pastebin.com/m9e92cd6 << I'm not in the mood to fry my brain anymore tonight. |
| 23:05.25 | Supertanker | I'll work on joining my atrocious home-made ltrim() in the file *tomorrow*. |
| 23:05.37 | Supertanker | (On the bright side, it works with no segfaulting. That counts for something....uh....right?) |
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