| 00:20.32 | Winny | JefferyM: is the bzflag store down/gone? |
| 00:22.36 | JefferyM | looks like it |
| 00:22.54 | JefferyM | brlcad is probably moving it |
| 00:23.17 | temp_dist | bzlist is down/slow too |
| 00:23.27 | Winny | ah, ok |
| 00:23.27 | JefferyM | all related then |
| 00:23.47 | Winny | wondered if it had been taken down since everything was sold out or something |
| 00:25.52 | JefferyM | yay, down to 0 errors, time to remove another struct and see what happens :) |
| 00:25.59 | JefferyM | sold out, god no |
| 00:26.04 | JefferyM | kicks the box |
| 00:26.09 | Winny | hehe |
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| 02:01.11 | spldart | snap... I musta po'd ibot |
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| 02:39.22 | brlcad | ~bzflist |
| 02:39.30 | brlcad | isn't doing anything with the store... |
| 02:39.42 | brlcad | maybe zen-cart is down or no longer serving a cart |
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| 04:52.13 | CIA-76 | BZFlag: 0324.179.152.26 07http://my.bzflag.org * r6618 10/w/Flag_ideas: /* Unrated Flag Ideas */ New idea |
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| 05:06.53 | CIA-76 | BZFlag: 03kingrobot * r20449 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzrobots/BZRobotScript.cxx: bzrobots: fix callback passing |
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| 06:12.19 | jorgenpt | This just isn't fair. |
| 06:12.39 | jorgenpt | First my internet. Then my workstation. Then my DADS workstation. Then the server I run my IRC client on. |
| 06:12.53 | jorgenpt | My hardware karma isn't very good these days. |
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| 15:34.33 | CIA-76 | BZFlag: 03cygal * r20450 10/trunk/bzflag/ (include/TextUtils.h plugins/plugin_utils/plugin_utils.h): TextUtils incorrectly calculated printable status |
| 15:35.00 | cygal_ | TextUtils could use some love, like using 'a' instead of 65, and return expr instead of 'if expr then true else false' |
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| 15:44.41 | _WarPig_ | Is there a way to get a list of players, the server they are playing, and their authenticated status? For instance, if I wanted to make a service available only to players currently authenticated and playing. |
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| 16:08.15 | _WarPig_ | Is there a way to get a list of players, the server they are playing, and their authenticated status? For instance, if I wanted to make a service available only to players currently authenticated and playing. |
| 16:09.48 | JefferyM | not yet |
| 16:09.56 | JefferyM | that is something I an working on |
| 16:10.00 | JefferyM | the stats API |
| 16:10.06 | _WarPig_ | Excellent! |
| 16:10.30 | JefferyM | it's in trunk now but I'll make a plugin that reports the data for branch |
| 16:13.05 | _WarPig_ | My idea is to set up a TeamSpeak server automatically for a server when >1 players is authenticated. I'd need the list fairly frequently to make it work. |
| 16:13.54 | JefferyM | the stats system is designed where game servers push information to it, so it is updated everytime there is a change |
| 16:14.17 | JefferyM | then there is an API on the stats site that third parties can use to get the current data |
| 16:14.33 | JefferyM | you can get the full list, or just the stuff that has had a change since a specific date/time |
| 16:15.01 | _WarPig_ | Ideally, I'd like to get that info whenever there is a change. Alternatively, once a minute or so. |
| 16:15.18 | JefferyM | I don't see a way for our stats system to know that you want updates |
| 16:15.31 | _WarPig_ | Nor do I. |
| 16:15.41 | _WarPig_ | Would have to be a plugin |
| 16:15.42 | JefferyM | ok well I do, but I don't know if I'd implement it |
| 16:15.51 | JefferyM | you cant' have a plugin run on every server |
| 16:16.13 | JefferyM | I could have you login to the stats system and register a callback URL that is hit when there is a data change |
| 16:16.14 | _WarPig_ | No, but those server admins that want TeamSpeak for their server could run it. |
| 16:16.22 | JefferyM | sure you can do that now |
| 16:16.38 | JefferyM | polling a site every min is kinda mean for that site |
| 16:17.05 | _WarPig_ | I know. Didn't want to do that. A plugin could send the data though. |
| 16:17.24 | JefferyM | sure, then you don't even need the stats push system |
| 16:19.20 | _WarPig_ | Thanks. |
| 16:20.23 | _WarPig_ | What are your thoughts about the idea? Waste of time? |
| 16:20.51 | JefferyM | I'd offer the teamspeak server first, see if people actualy use it |
| 16:21.12 | JefferyM | and then see if oyu have the problem of people who arn't playing getting in the way before you try to fix it so they can't |
| 16:21.36 | JefferyM | you are kinda trying to solve a prolbem that you don't know you have |
| 16:22.07 | _WarPig_ | Good point. |
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| 18:15.30 | brlcad | JefferyM: I'm not doing anything with the store .. maybe zen-cart is down or no longer serving a cart |
| 18:15.43 | brlcad | the page is responding correctly according to the logs |
| 18:15.49 | brlcad | so something going on inside the php |
| 18:15.58 | brlcad | no errors being reported |
| 18:29.50 | Wyk3d1 | brlcad: is there any particular OID namespace I should use or should a new one be registered for bzflag ? |
| 18:33.22 | Wyk3d1 | (currently i just used a random one but registering a new one is free at http://pen.iana.org/pen/PenApplication.page) |
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| 18:45.24 | Wyk3d1 | ha! .. the number i chose at random 9192 happens to be registered to Jeff Meyer :) |
| 18:46.03 | Wyk3d1 | *9191 |
| 18:55.28 | brlcad | different jeff |
| 18:55.57 | Wyk3d1 | i know, but one out of 34000 coincidence :) |
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| 19:42.01 | JefferyM | brlcad, fun |
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| 20:00.31 | Wyk3d1 | Constitution: ping |
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| 22:27.30 | RatOmeter | any cops for 1purplepanzer.hopto.org (Tricolor map)? Got a potty-mouth with dynamic IP there :( |
| 22:27.42 | RatOmeter | dodged two or 3 pollbans |
| 22:27.58 | temp_dist | I think I am @ there |
| 22:28.44 | temp_dist | erp - no I'm not |
| 22:29.28 | RatOmeter | he's signed off now, I'm guessing on his own this time |
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| 22:30.18 | RatOmeter | erk, no, he just changed teams |
| 22:32.18 | SpazzyMcGee | how do I go about building 2.99 with server-side Lua on my mac? |
| 22:32.33 | SpazzyMcGee | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:32.55 | JefferyM | IIRC it's not an option |
| 22:33.00 | SpazzyMcGee | but my configure outputs that bzlua & bzluac won't be built |
| 22:33.16 | JefferyM | hmm it must not be finding the internal lua code |
| 22:33.30 | JefferyM | it's suposed to build lua if it can't find it |
| 22:33.44 | SpazzyMcGee | hmm |
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| 22:51.10 | trepan | bzlua & bzluac are separate programs |
| 22:51.25 | trepan | they are not require for bzfs' lua to work |
| 22:51.29 | trepan | *required |
| 22:51.51 | trepan | and ... bz's src/other/lua should always be used |
| 22:51.55 | JefferyM | oh are those the libs for lua things to use to get access to stuff in bz? |
| 22:52.03 | trepan | external library is not an option |
| 22:52.27 | trepan | bzlua and bzluac are the standard lua and luac executables |
| 22:52.36 | trepan | but built using src/other/lua sources |
| 22:53.15 | trepan | (which have a couple of tweaks, as described in src/other/lua/README_BZFLAG |
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| 22:55.39 | trepan | if you want bzlua and bzluac, use --enable-luaexecs |
| 22:56.06 | trepan | (requires -lreadline, iirc) |
| 22:57.15 | SpazzyMcGee | I was going to experiment with embedding server side lua plugins into my maps |
| 22:58.21 | SpazzyMcGee | So I won't need bzlua & bzluac? |
| 23:20.20 | CIA-76 | BZFlag: 03wyk3d * r20452 10/branches/gsoc_bzauthd/src/bzauthd/ (10 files): |
| 23:20.20 | CIA-76 | BZFlag: Rewrote user groups, added organization support. |
| 23:20.20 | CIA-76 | BZFlag: Fixed a bug with callsigns being treated case sensitive when checking tokens. |
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| 23:24.12 | SpazzyMcGee | Well, it's stopped building all together. |
| 23:25.10 | Constitution | Wyk3d: pong |
| 23:26.44 | Wyk3d | Constitution: what is the grouptarget field for in group_permissions ? |
| 23:28.37 | trepan | SpazzyMcGee: no, you don't need bzlua & bzluac |
| 23:28.48 | SpazzyMcGee | cool |
| 23:29.09 | SpazzyMcGee | I'll contend with my 100+ errors instead :p |
| 23:29.45 | SpazzyMcGee | It built fine two weeks ago... perhaps it just doesn't like me anymore |
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| 23:38.11 | Constitution | Wyk3d: iirc it was to allow for an entry in groups_permissions where members of one group (groupid) would have admin permissions of another group (grouptarget) |
| 23:39.02 | Wyk3d | hmm |
| 23:39.41 | Constitution | so using that table, any user (id) or group (groupid) could get admin permissions of any organization (orgadmin=1) or group (grouptarget=<group id>) |
| 23:40.17 | Wyk3d | i think i will do that another way, in the membership list i will have isGroupAdmin, isOrgAdmin and isMember attribute |
| 23:40.20 | Constitution | so like you could have your ORG.OWNER administer the whole group, and have ORG.ADMIN administer ORG.COP, or something like that |
| 23:40.34 | Constitution | ok |
| 23:41.13 | Constitution | that won't allow for the feature I just described, but perhaps it's unnecessary |
| 23:41.15 | Wyk3d | and i will filter in only isMember=true when listingreal members |
| 23:42.37 | blast | I probably missed a good chunk of the discussion, but I'm here at the moment if you need my thoughts |
| 23:42.59 | Constitution | <Wyk3d> Constitution: what is the grouptarget field for in group_permissions ? |
| 23:43.08 | CBG | Sorry for the off-topicness, but please feel free to /msg me or reply in #bzflag-chat. "Internal threats, vs external threats, to an operating system" would this refer to threats from authorised users, staff, vs viruses, hacking, etc (for example) ? |
| 23:43.16 | Constitution | regarding https://bzflag.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/bzflag/trunk/web/bzgrpmgr/setup.sql |
| 23:44.06 | blast | ah |
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| 23:44.48 | mrapplecomputer1 | MrDudle: ! |
| 23:44.57 | Wyk3d | Constitution: but if i add a entry into the COP's memberlist for all members in ADMIN ? |
| 23:45.02 | MrDudle | hello? |
| 23:45.22 | Wyk3d | Constitution: with isMember=false but isGroupAdmin=true |
| 23:45.33 | Wyk3d | how is that any different ? |
| 23:45.43 | Constitution | ok, that works |
| 23:46.11 | Constitution | however, that requires an entry for every member, rather than one for the group |
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| 23:46.51 | blast | probably fine the way you're wanting to do it, Constitution |
| 23:46.53 | blast | er |
| 23:46.56 | Constitution | so to allow/disallow members of x from administering group y, one query for each member will be required, rather than just one query |
| 23:47.03 | blast | s/Constitution/Wyk3d/ |
| 23:47.52 | Constitution | I'm fine with that too... probably more straightforward |
| 23:48.03 | blast | The UI could handle it as well |
| 23:48.21 | blast | doesn't need to be built into the LDAP that way |
| 23:49.02 | Wyk3d | well the UI just calls things like getGroupsAdministeredBy( .. ) |
| 23:49.09 | blast | i.e. something like "Add these users as administrators of ___ groups" |
| 23:49.15 | Wyk3d | and that |
| 23:49.49 | blast | it will still be better than what we have right now |
| 23:49.51 | blast | ;) |
| 23:55.11 | Wyk3d | Constitution: the ORG.OWNER is your groups_orgs.contact ? |
| 23:56.36 | Wyk3d | or rather that's the name of the group OWNER in some ORG ? |
| 23:58.49 | Constitution | groups_orgs.contact would contain the bzid of the contact for the organization |
| 23:59.37 | Constitution | not all orgs use the same convention/hierarchy |