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| 01:38.24 | temporalD | Runic: this is the result from trying the code that you suggested - same result as before for me |
| 01:38.24 | temporalD | http://pastebin.bzflag.bz/m2a76ec8d |
| 01:39.31 | blast007 | temporalD: "before" meaning the issue you had a couple weeks ago? |
| 01:40.14 | temporalD | yes - same "library not found for -lpng" error |
| 01:40.28 | blast007 | the one you had before was complaining about -obzworkbench |
| 01:40.32 | blast007 | not -lpng |
| 01:40.43 | temporalD | after we got through that |
| 01:40.45 | temporalD | :) |
| 01:40.47 | blast007 | this seems to imply that you are missing the PNG library |
| 01:40.48 | blast007 | ah |
| 01:41.31 | temporalD | hmm |
| 01:42.18 | blast007 | or that it's not looking in the right spot |
| 01:43.12 | blast007 | temporalD: does this show any files? ls -l /opt/local/lib | grep libpng |
| 01:43.13 | temporalD | lpng library should come with the OSG stuff? |
| 01:43.19 | blast007 | maybe |
| 01:43.38 | blast007 | I haven't looked at what it includes. do they include a 3rd party libraries package for OSX? |
| 01:43.54 | temporalD | yes 8 lines of results for that search |
| 01:44.12 | temporalD | 4 are symlinks |
| 01:44.24 | temporalD | http://pastebin.bzflag.bz/d476c7c61 |
| 01:44.27 | blast007 | are you using the OSG 2.8.0 binary package? |
| 01:44.48 | blast007 | or maybe it's not a binary.. |
| 01:45.05 | temporalD | no - I had used that originally - but when that didn't work, I built 2.8.1 to match the version that worked for you |
| 01:45.17 | blast007 | ok |
| 01:45.22 | temporalD | (but still had the same error as with 2.8.0) |
| 01:45.30 | blast007 | and actually 2.4.x worked for me on linux ;) |
| 01:45.35 | temporalD | lol |
| 01:45.37 | blast007 | after I fixed linux |
| 01:46.59 | blast007 | not sure where this should go exactly, but try adding this to the beginning of the LIBS := thing: |
| 01:47.02 | blast007 | -L/opt/local/lib |
| 01:48.36 | temporalD | well does libpng = lpng ? cause the error is looking for the latter |
| 01:49.17 | blast007 | yes |
| 01:49.29 | temporalD | and that capital L looks out of place to me - you sure about that? |
| 01:49.55 | blast007 | no, but that's what I copy/pasted from some website ;) |
| 01:50.02 | temporalD | heh - OK BOOM! |
| 01:51.27 | temporalD | cd debug && make = nothing to do... |
| 01:51.40 | temporalD | so I'm at root and did "make fresh" |
| 01:54.47 | temporalD | ooh different errors! |
| 01:54.57 | blast007 | ;D |
| 01:56.12 | temporalD | http://pastebin.bzflag.bz/d4d656390 |
| 01:56.23 | temporalD | still in the Linker |
| 01:58.24 | temporalD | weird - maybe my OSG is borked... |
| 01:59.36 | blast007 | getting further though ;) |
| 01:59.42 | temporalD | yep! |
| 01:59.45 | blast007 | the build system needs a revamp |
| 02:00.00 | temporalD | super! |
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| 03:12.19 | Runic | I built libpng 1.2.40, fltk 1.1.7 as a standard dynamic lib, hence the the use of -lpng -llfltk, OSG 2.8.2 was built with the xcode project file included which produced frameworks and plugins, which need install in their proper locations , the -framework is used to reference frameworks in Mac OS X, they are basically packaged dynamic libraries |
| 03:13.34 | temporalD | ooh, so you had to build libpng for this? |
| 03:14.31 | Runic | yes, you could use fink or some other port to get it as well |
| 03:14.32 | temporalD | Runic: honestly, I have no interest in actually building this - if a working application for OSX was available |
| 03:15.00 | temporalD | I'm really only interested in the functionality - and getting it out in the public more than my own use |
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| 03:26.40 | Runic | it definitly not ready for public release, it would need to be packaged up with the required external libs, I'm still having issues with the textures (everything is white) maybe due to me using 2.8.2 |
| 03:27.22 | temporalD | gotcha - well I appreciate the work so far |
| 03:27.31 | temporalD | I just hope it doesn't get forgotten |
| 03:27.47 | Runic | libpng built for me pretty easy, you could also use fink to get it |
| 03:28.08 | temporalD | I've verified that i have that already |
| 03:28.25 | temporalD | I think I'm just having a linker issue - not finding some OSG stuffs |
| 03:29.03 | Runic | is the path included ie. -I/path/to/libs/directory |
| 03:29.30 | temporalD | I'm not really a dev - just play one on the internet |
| 03:32.37 | temporalD | Runic: http://pastebin.bzflag.bz/d4d656390 the last build attempt |
| 03:32.38 | Runic | i had issues getting OSG to compile, think I worked that out but I'm still getting no textures to show |
| 03:33.29 | temporalD | I built OSG and got a bunch of "frameworks" - put them all into /Library/Frameworks |
| 03:33.47 | Runic | ok did you install the osg frameworks, you need to move them and the plugins yourself |
| 03:34.15 | temporalD | yes for the frameworks |
| 03:34.19 | Runic | or atleast I did |
| 03:34.24 | temporalD | the plungs... let me remember |
| 03:34.48 | temporalD | where would I verify the plugins? |
| 03:34.54 | Runic | and the OpenThreads.framework |
| 03:35.08 | temporalD | yes to the OpenTreads.framwork |
| 03:35.42 | temporalD | and I see the plugins in Library/Application Support/OpenSceneGraph/Plugins |
| 03:36.24 | Runic | the plugins go in /Library/Application Support/OpenSceneGraph/ |
| 03:36.38 | Runic | or your user library folder |
| 03:36.55 | temporalD | yes, that's where I see them |
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| 03:38.43 | Runic | well it should find the OpenThreads.framework then, which is what the error is complaining about |
| 03:39.14 | temporalD | agreed |
| 03:39.46 | temporalD | it was OSG 2.8.1 that I built |
| 03:40.00 | Runic | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:40.12 | temporalD | yep |
| 03:40.30 | Runic | do a make clean then make all |
| 03:40.41 | temporalD | alrighty |
| 03:42.28 | temporalD | (running those from the root of the code) |
| 03:42.47 | Runic | from inside Debug directory |
| 03:42.57 | temporalD | hmm - we'll see |
| 03:45.24 | temporalD | couple warnings... |
| 03:45.31 | Runic | that's fairly normal |
| 03:45.59 | Runic | you'll have to running from the command line |
| 03:46.12 | temporalD | no prob |
| 03:46.39 | Runic | ok I must be tried |
| 03:47.08 | temporalD | same error as the pastebin |
| 03:48.04 | remote | Runic: would you know how i can uninstall the OSG framework from my osx? |
| 03:48.25 | Runic | delete them |
| 03:48.25 | remote | it is just installed under /Library/Frameworks ? |
| 03:48.56 | temporalD | and plugins in /Library/Application Support/OpenSceneGraph/Plugins |
| 03:48.57 | Runic | and /Library/Application Support/OpenSceneGraph |
| 03:49.02 | remote | ok |
| 03:49.04 | remote | thanks |
| 03:49.54 | Runic | are you sure osg compiled ok? |
| 03:50.09 | temporalD | i got no errors and received candy |
| 03:50.18 | spldart | Yay! Candy |
| 03:50.19 | temporalD | s/candy/Frameworks and plugins |
| 03:50.19 | Runic | exspecial OpenThreads |
| 03:50.35 | temporalD | yes - seemed to be fine when I built it |
| 03:50.54 | Runic | have youtried running any of the example apps? |
| 03:51.15 | temporalD | pretty sure I deleted those - it's 1GB!! |
| 03:51.31 | Runic | no hd ah |
| 03:51.34 | remote | like osggeometry? |
| 03:51.38 | temporalD | I guess I could delete this install and build 2.8.2 |
| 03:51.57 | Runic | I don't know if that would matter |
| 03:51.57 | temporalD | I didn' ttry to run those - no |
| 03:52.16 | temporalD | it would verify that it works |
| 03:52.22 | Runic | lol |
| 03:52.57 | Runic | I said textures are not working for me yet with 2.8.2 |
| 03:53.02 | temporalD | yea |
| 03:54.43 | temporalD | OK, I'm building OSG 2.8.2 now - I'll just see if the examples work |
| 03:55.16 | remote | which version were you using? |
| 03:55.23 | temporalD | 2.8.1 |
| 03:55.35 | temporalD | (which is the version that blast said worked for him) |
| 03:55.47 | remote | Runic: would osg 2.2.0 work? |
| 03:55.53 | Runic | 2.8.0 I think |
| 03:56.46 | Runic | wow, that seem to be much older - I really don't know, it may be possible, but I dought it |
| 03:57.27 | temporalD | there are Xcode instructions here - am following them now |
| 03:57.30 | Runic | best to use what the developer is using |
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| 04:50.11 | blast007 | remote: I was able to build it with OSG 2.4.x on linux (whatever version Ubuntu 9.04 has in their repo - 9.10 has 2.8.x) |
| 04:50.57 | remote | i'm trying to build 2.8.2 no osx right now |
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| 05:28.03 | temporalD | blast007: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/132365/Picture1.png got it to build |
| 05:28.18 | temporalD | I see what Runic meant, not ready for release |
| 05:29.03 | blast007 | or you're not in the right directory |
| 05:29.18 | blast007 | are you running it from the Debug directory? |
| 05:29.27 | temporalD | yes |
| 05:29.29 | blast007 | or are you running ./Debug/bzworkbench from the root of the source? |
| 05:29.39 | temporalD | no |
| 05:29.42 | blast007 | do it that way |
| 05:29.48 | temporalD | alrighty |
| 05:29.48 | blast007 | like it says in the README ;) |
| 05:30.00 | temporalD | lol - feh |
| 05:30.23 | blast007 | it assumes the 'share' directory is in the same location as the current working directory |
| 05:31.17 | remote | ahh |
| 05:31.18 | temporalD | much better |
| 05:31.22 | remote | :) |
| 05:31.58 | temporalD | well still get a Seg Fault when I try to add a box... |
| 05:32.02 | blast007 | heh |
| 05:32.10 | blast007 | gdb ;) |
| 05:32.27 | remote | oh sure |
| 05:32.29 | blast007 | assuming that it's a debug build.. no idea how Eclipse handles that |
| 05:32.45 | blast007 | (Eclipse generated those .mk files) |
| 05:33.12 | temporalD | I'll just send these crash reports to Apple - they'll fix it |
| 05:33.17 | blast007 | hahaha |
| 05:33.17 | remote | hhaha |
| 05:33.32 | blast007 | *apple hits 'ignore' button* |
| 05:33.37 | remote | :) |
| 05:35.51 | temporalD | can load simple maps - e.g. hix - but anything complex goes byebye |
| 05:36.02 | blast007 | hmm |
| 05:36.07 | blast007 | I didn't try much |
| 05:36.20 | blast007 | couldn't load MW2 since BZWB doesn't support groups/defines |
| 05:36.31 | temporalD | i see |
| 05:36.49 | remote | whenever i click on add object it freezes anyways |
| 05:37.21 | blast007 | there is a solution to that |
| 05:37.24 | blast007 | Bootcamp |
| 05:37.26 | blast007 | ducks |
| 05:37.47 | blast007 | adding objects works fine on Windows |
| 05:38.54 | temporalD | so let's see - I used OSG 2.8.0, fltk-1.3, replaced that line in the debug/objects.mk file - and added that bit that blast showed me... |
| 05:39.09 | temporalD | so the line reads |
| 05:39.10 | temporalD | LIBS := -L/opt/local/lib -lfltk -lfltk_images -lpng -framework osg -framework OpenThreads -framework osgGA -framework osgDB -framework osgUtil -framework osgText -framework osgViewer -lfltk_gl -framework OpenGL -framework AGL -framework GLUT -framework Carbon |
| 05:39.28 | temporalD | then it built in OSX |
| 05:40.27 | remote | my libs are in /sw/lib however |
| 05:40.40 | remote | i installed them using flix or something |
| 05:40.42 | remote | apt-get |
| 05:41.31 | blast007 | OSX sure seems like a 'fun' platform to develop for :P |
| 05:41.54 | temporalD | I'm sure it would be fine for a real coder |
| 05:42.35 | blast007 | I mean, in general, a lot of problems occur with OSX |
| 05:43.15 | temporalD | could be - maybe there are the same problems for other OSes, just people fix them |
| 05:43.16 | blast007 | for example, I think I recall one time when there was a QuickTime update that was required to run GarageBand, but broke BZFlag ;) |
| 05:43.28 | temporalD | oh fun |
| 05:43.40 | Flash | I remember that. backing out the upgrade was a REAL challenge |
| 05:44.11 | blast007 | wasn't there some downgrade tool? |
| 05:44.38 | Flash | no. you had to uninstall Quicktime entirely, then re-install a much older version and upgrade it just enough |
| 05:44.44 | blast007 | heh |
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| 15:48.30 | Runic | for those interested here is a screenshot of bzworkbench running on Mac OS X - http://wizardlore.dyndns.org/bzworkbench_macosx.png |
| 15:51.11 | temporalD | Runic, I couldn't get it to open anything more complex than Hix - and it gave a SegFault on any add object action. |
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| 16:02.09 | Runic | I getting a few errors to opening certain test bzw files included |
| 16:03.40 | Runic | I get : "Failed to load bzw file. group: Unknown key, position at line 20" from test.bzw |
| 16:05.17 | Runic | same thing for boxworld.bzw (except for it is line 56) |
| 16:06.18 | Runic | but due remember they are still developing this, so error are prettyu much a given |
| 16:08.30 | Runic | all the add objects appear to function for me |
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| 16:29.53 | Runic | also it appears that it does not handle downloading of textures such as those in the H2O-R1.bzw when opening a map |
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| 16:40.51 | Runic | here is an example of the path bzworkbench tries to get the texture from when looking for the textures for H2O-R1.bzw : "share/textures/http://louman.bzflag.bz/textures/h2o/H2O.png.png" - I see several issues here |
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| 17:13.30 | ts | Constitution: ping |
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| 17:14.20 | ts | I have a problem with the weblogin script |
| 17:15.06 | ts | If someone changes his callsign how can I get the new name when all I have is his bzid in my database? |
| 17:20.23 | blast007 | you can get it when they login again |
| 17:21.16 | ts | Unfortunately that is not an option in my case |
| 17:21.46 | blast007 | why not? |
| 17:21.59 | ts | I wouldn't want two users with the same displayed callsign in my database |
| 17:23.05 | ts | I do not want to lock a login because someone else used a callsign a long time ago and did not log in again yet |
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| 17:30.22 | BulletCatcher | Indexing the database on callsign+bzid would solve that problem, ts. |
| 17:30.35 | blast007 | BulletCatcher: already found a solution for him |
| 17:32.40 | BulletCatcher | Okay. Still, using callsign+bzid as the index is an effective solution to that type of problem. |
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| 18:59.06 | Constitution | ts: pong |
| 18:59.50 | ts | Constitution: never mind I guess I got my answer |
| 19:00.04 | Constitution | k |
| 19:21.55 | blast007 | hmmm. that's a long netsplit... |
| 19:23.25 | russellb | who clogged the tubes :-( |
| 19:33.33 | temporalD | some ex US senator from Alaska |
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| 22:52.43 | Syrus110 | hi, anyone ever have this problem? "Could not set Video Mode: Couldn't find matching GLX visual. Error creating window - Exiting" |
| 22:54.47 | Constitution | Syrus110: what architecture and OS? |
| 22:55.11 | Syrus110 | i'm running ubuntu jaunty, and what do you mean architecture? |
| 22:55.34 | Constitution | ppc/i386/amd64? |
| 22:56.03 | Syrus110 | i386 |
| 22:56.39 | Constitution | try starting it with "bzflag -window" |
| 22:57.13 | Syrus110 | louis@Home:~$ bzflag -window |
| 22:57.13 | Syrus110 | bzflag: /usr/local/lib/libcurl.so.4: no version information available (required by bzflag) |
| 22:57.13 | Syrus110 | Could not set Video Mode: Couldn't find matching GLX visual. |
| 22:57.13 | Syrus110 | Error creating window - Exiting |
| 22:59.54 | Constitution | has it ever worked before? |
| 23:00.36 | Syrus110 | not after i updated to jaunty |
| 23:04.27 | Constitution | what drivers are you using for your graphics card? |
| 23:05.20 | Syrus110 | nvidia 96.43.10 |
| 23:05.40 | Constitution | well for one, it looks like you're missing libcurl |
| 23:05.48 | Syrus110 | i already fixed that error |
| 23:06.45 | Constitution | please pastebin output of "bzflag -d" |
| 23:07.12 | Syrus110 | it doesn't do anything |
| 23:07.17 | Syrus110 | just the same glx error |
| 23:07.45 | Constitution | anything with -d -d? |
| 23:08.15 | Syrus110 | nope |
| 23:08.18 | JeffM | what drivers? |
| 23:08.20 | JeffM | nv or nvidia? |
| 23:08.27 | Syrus110 | nvidia |
| 23:08.52 | JeffM | do bzflag -window -geometry 800x600 |
| 23:09.36 | Syrus110 | same thing |
| 23:09.50 | JeffM | what actual card is it |
| 23:09.52 | JeffM | specificaly |
| 23:11.36 | *** join/#bzflag Djpenguin (n=David@c-71-202-201-94.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 23:11.43 | Syrus110 | nvidia GeForce 6100 |
| 23:11.45 | Syrus110 | what? |
| 23:11.48 | Syrus110 | that?** |
| 23:11.59 | JeffM | yeah |
| 23:12.27 | BulletCatcher | I have that card. It is slow, but it works. |
| 23:12.34 | JeffM | the driver is from the ubuntu repository or directly from nvidia? |
| 23:12.37 | JeffM | yeah it should work |
| 23:12.43 | JeffM | but the driver is failing to create the context |
| 23:13.03 | JeffM | if it fails in -window mode then it's not a res issue but one of the other attributes we ask for |
| 23:13.25 | BulletCatcher | What is the output of a "glxinfo | grep rendering" command? (Just to be sure the driver is installed correctly.) |
| 23:13.52 | JeffM | current nvidia driver is 185.18.36 , so if that version was right it's rather old. |
| 23:14.09 | Syrus110 | BulletCatcher, i can't even run that command... it segfaults =/ |
| 23:14.24 | JeffM | then you have bigger issues then bzflag ;) |
| 23:14.28 | Syrus110 | louis@Home:~$ glxinfo | grep rendering |
| 23:14.29 | Syrus110 | Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". |
| 23:14.31 | Syrus110 | and so on |
| 23:14.47 | JeffM | I'd recomend getting the current driver from nvidia directly as what you have isn't installed right |
| 23:15.04 | JeffM | you have no GLX support |
| 23:15.16 | Syrus110 | well, when i use the current one, i can't see anything but a single line at the top of my screen -.- |
| 23:15.29 | JeffM | again that means you have other problems |
| 23:15.41 | JeffM | perhaps the card is bad or there are other isues on the system |
| 23:15.47 | JeffM | but it's not a problem with bzflag |
| 23:16.02 | JeffM | specially if glxinfo won't run |
| 23:16.09 | Syrus110 | yea, it worked fine when i used hardy... so it's probably something weird with jaunty =/ |
| 23:16.29 | BulletCatcher | Try running the "glxgears" program. It is a simple GL test. |
| 23:16.57 | Syrus110 | Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". |
| 23:16.57 | Syrus110 | Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual |
| 23:16.59 | JeffM | was it a clean install? or an upgrade? |
| 23:17.13 | Syrus110 | clean install |
| 23:17.21 | JeffM | well it's missing something |
| 23:17.48 | BulletCatcher | You need help from the Ubuntu supporters. If they can help you get glxgears to run then bzflag should work too. |
| 23:19.29 | Constitution | Jaunty is what I run, and it worked fine... there's a newer release though |
| 23:31.57 | JeffM | if the ones from the ubuntu repository won't install that is kinda scarry. |
| 23:35.12 | BulletCatcher | I doubt that Ubuntu distributes proprietary video drivers. I get mine from rpmfusion.org (for Fedora). |
| 23:35.29 | JeffM | they do, in a seperate repository just for non free stuff |
| 23:35.38 | JeffM | it's rather easy to install them usualy |
| 23:35.59 | JeffM | they have a little "hardware" widget that tells you what ones it can use, informs you they are not free, etc.. |
| 23:36.23 | JeffM | they are just not installed by default |
| 23:36.36 | Syrus110 | hm, i've been looking around the ubuntu forums, and there are many posts about the same errors i have, but no one ever finishes and says if or how they got it to work -.- |
| 23:37.12 | JeffM | I've always just used the ones in the hardware drivers control pannel and it's been fine |
| 23:38.00 | Syrus110 | that's how i installed the one i use now |
| 23:40.25 | JeffM | Constitution: so they are actualy distributing replay files? |
| 23:41.02 | Constitution | have been for a long time |
| 23:41.12 | JeffM | wow, that's pretty dumb |
| 23:41.38 | Constitution | I guess no one cared to determine what data they actually contain |
| 23:41.44 | JeffM | indeed |
| 23:41.59 | JeffM | it's got everything, tokens, etc.. |
| 23:42.30 | JeffM | it was not meant to be a distributed "Save game" thingy |
| 23:43.02 | BulletCatcher | I have been thinking of adding a section about it to the replay wiki page, to help discourage future distribution. |
| 23:43.04 | JeffM | and it needs that info in order to replicate the state |
| 23:43.13 | JeffM | yeah clarifying it woudl be good |
| 23:43.49 | Constitution | they are already "available" via a replay server, so there's no real need to make the raw files available |
| 23:43.59 | JeffM | indeed |
| 23:44.15 | JeffM | and at least with a replay server only state updates are broadcast, not input data |
| 23:44.29 | JeffM | the problem is they would need to hide the input data |
| 23:44.38 | JeffM | but then it would not work on another system |
| 23:45.02 | Constitution | although it's handy for offline viewing or if there are specific files you know you will look at later |
| 23:45.05 | JeffM | if we wanted to make it a universal file we'd have to make some abstraction packets for stuff |
| 23:45.16 | JeffM | then don't use a server /password :) |
| 23:45.21 | JeffM | or local auth |
| 23:45.30 | Constitution | yeah I will admit that did not make sense |
| 23:45.31 | Syrus110 | ugh, this sucks, i "upgraded" hoping it would fix my problem with mumble (the voip server stuff...)... it did fix it, but now i can't even play the games i want to use it for... lol -.- |
| 23:46.00 | JeffM | well at least there dosn't look to be a real "hacking" hole |
| 23:46.08 | JeffM | just some server passwords that got out |
| 23:46.50 | BulletCatcher | Yes. I was relieved that no code changes are required on our part. |
| 23:49.11 | JeffM | if global could be made more redundant and stable then we could get rid of the /password thingy |
| 23:49.27 | JeffM | or maybe change it to just be an authorized IP / name list |
| 23:49.39 | JeffM | then nothing would have to be sent over the wire |
| 23:49.43 | BulletCatcher | It would still be necessary for private servers. |
| 23:50.04 | BulletCatcher | We could change it to use a challenge/response method. |
| 23:50.07 | JeffM | yeah some system would be nessiary, but it dosn't have to be a plaintext /password |
| 23:50.08 | JeffM | yeah |
| 23:50.19 | JeffM | something else could work |
| 23:51.07 | JeffM | even MySQL does authorized IP ranges for it's users |
| 23:58.15 | CIA-65 | BZFlag: 03Bullet Catcher 07http://my.bzflag.org * r6778 10/w/Replay_Server: add Replay File Contents section |
