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| 00:42.50 | Yassen | Is there a way to zoom in on the map in BZWorkbench? |
| 00:43.05 | JeffM | mouse wheel dosn't do it? |
| 00:43.48 | Yassen | not for me at least |
| 00:45.13 | me1 | didn't it use some wierd right-click+move mouse before? try that |
| 00:46.48 | Yassen | me1: you're right, right clicking and moving the mouse does it |
| 00:46.53 | me1 | heh |
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| 01:11.38 | JeffM | guess that was done in case you don't have a wheel |
| 02:06.03 | remote | hah! |
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| 04:33.49 | TylerM | this channel as good as any to discuss world building? |
| 04:34.12 | blast007 | maybe |
| 04:34.40 | blast007 | there is also ##BZW - though it's not an "official" channel |
| 04:36.54 | TylerM | hi blast007 thx |
| 04:37.06 | TylerM | just trying to get bzw importer working in blender and hitting an error (on mac) |
| 04:37.17 | TylerM | heh - just saw your name in the master ban list :) |
| 04:37.53 | blast007 | yes ... I've banned some people |
| 04:38.16 | TylerM | oh heh - i misread and thought you were the naughty one lol |
| 04:38.23 | blast007 | 'banner' |
| 04:39.00 | TylerM | i see now :) |
| 04:39.11 | blast007 | anyway, what error? |
| 04:39.59 | blast007 | I probably won't be of much/any help, but who knows ;) |
| 04:40.18 | TylerM | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:40.18 | TylerM | TypeError: expected string argument |
| 04:40.25 | TylerM | when trying to open import/export dialogue |
| 04:40.52 | TylerM | i suspect an os-specific path separator causing the issue.. but not sure |
| 04:40.55 | TylerM | just going to test on linux |
| 04:43.15 | blast007 | and you looked at this? http://wiki.teppic.homelinux.net/bzwiki/index.php/First_Time_Setup |
| 04:43.42 | TylerM | sweet, nope |
| 04:43.44 | TylerM | thanks! |
| 04:44.35 | blast007 | yeah, there's a whole wiki for it: http://wiki.teppic.homelinux.net/bzwiki/index.php/Main_Page |
| 04:45.35 | blast007 | both of which are linked to from the BZWTools page on the bz wiki ;) |
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| 05:15.48 | TylerM | i was there.. just missed that one :) |
| 05:16.04 | TylerM | now where the heck are more local cached world files? geez i feeel clueless on a mac :) |
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| 17:03.47 | tobylane | so.. having a stick up your butt/brain means what |
| 17:04.55 | joevano | is that on topik? |
| 17:05.06 | joevano | topic* |
| 17:05.26 | tobylane | yes, blast said it and wont explain it |
| 17:05.48 | joevano | so YOU are mudsquisher? |
| 17:05.52 | tobylane | no, im toby |
| 17:05.59 | tobylane | mud is a moron, so is tasi |
| 17:06.00 | temporalD | talk with him in a private message, or his channel |
| 17:06.12 | tobylane | if he didnt want to say it in game, i doubt ill find out from him |
| 17:06.16 | tobylane | so im asking anyone |
| 17:07.09 | tobylane | so its nothing then... |
| 17:07.13 | joevano | its a server issue on bzecess... take it over te #bzecess please |
| 17:07.23 | tobylane | no, its a saying i dont understand |
| 17:07.36 | joevano | ##bzexcess * |
| 17:07.37 | temporalD | tobylane, it's ##bzexcess actually |
| 17:07.45 | tobylane | do you people go out, cos if you do you'll know, and if you dont some of your other behavour will make sense |
| 17:08.06 | temporalD | ok then try ##cultural_misunderstanding |
| 17:08.19 | tobylane | ... im austistic, not retarded |
| 17:08.30 | tobylane | well, enough to mispell that |
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| 17:08.44 | tobylane | fine, bye, just hurry up and get fucking geno out of this game |
| 17:09.44 | joevano | well that went well |
| 17:43.16 | WarPig_ | I guess a request for the devs to remove a flag is on topic for this channel. |
| 17:43.38 | WarPig_ | always trying to find the silver lining |
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| 19:36.34 | JeffM | well I guess the new crappy store works |
| 19:36.56 | JeffM | brlcad: do you wan to do another run of shirts or anything? we have nearly 700$ in paypal |
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| 21:56.45 | delusional_ | Those chestnut shirts are the best of all the designs. Distinctive. Unique, Memorable... but shirts are played out. I suggest hats or mugs... bumperstickers even. |
| 21:58.35 | L4m3r | oooh, hats. I actually should get a cap for work, come to think of it... and that would save me from having to pay an obscene price for a UCLA hat! :P |
| 21:59.30 | delusional_ | Anybody who wants a shirt already has one, or several. |
| 21:59.44 | L4m3r | bumper stickers... "My other car is a tank" |
| 22:01.08 | delusional_ | The chestnut shirts are cool. they don't look like much on a web page.. but people comment on them when your wearing it. |
| 22:01.25 | JeffM | I can do hats |
| 22:01.34 | JeffM | we did 6 hats once |
| 22:01.59 | JeffM | maybe hats and polo shirts |
| 22:02.30 | JeffM | wonder if we could refactor saturos's shirt design into a hat |
| 22:02.40 | delusional_ | Bumperstickers ar cheap enough to hand out as freebies, and are a profit center if you sell them. |
| 22:02.56 | JeffM | know anywhere that makes them online? |
| 22:03.08 | JeffM | I looked around and wasn't too impressed with what I found |
| 22:03.12 | delusional_ | yjrtr's a guy down the street... |
| 22:03.14 | joevano | i'm up for another polo shirt... |
| 22:03.32 | JeffM | is he on the internet and does he take paypal? |
| 22:03.44 | delusional_ | i missed the polo shirts first time around... i'd get one of thse. |
| 22:04.08 | JeffM | we only made one polo :) |
| 22:04.46 | delusional_ | no wonder i missed it |
| 22:06.44 | JeffM | embroidered stuff isn't too bad, it has no minium |
| 22:07.05 | JeffM | I looked into mugs once, I'd have to buy like 25 to get the price down, but I don't know how I'd ship em |
| 22:07.05 | delusional_ | this looks do-able.. http://www.stickergiant.com/custom_stickers/ |
| 22:08.14 | JeffM | they don't do realtime quotes, that sucks |
| 22:08.24 | delusional_ | if you sold stickers at 2 bucks, that's $950 profit. |
| 22:08.45 | JeffM | you forget shipping |
| 22:09.00 | JeffM | minium of 5$ shipping for US stuff, and 12$ international |
| 22:09.22 | JeffM | so it makes it hard to sell small value items |
| 22:09.43 | JeffM | also that 50$ price is a single color |
| 22:09.56 | delusional_ | ah yeah. |
| 22:10.16 | JeffM | we'd end up spending probably 250$ on it last time I checked |
| 22:10.32 | JeffM | looked into that and buttons |
| 22:11.49 | JeffM | do you remember what I charged you for the polo joevano? |
| 22:11.58 | JeffM | I think they were like 13$ to make or something |
| 22:12.28 | JeffM | I'd do it with tread marks this time |
| 22:15.06 | JeffM | we do have less then 20 of the chestnut shirts left IIRC |
| 22:15.13 | JeffM | someone bought 2 today |
| 22:16.14 | Think_Differentl | any chance of hoodies again? |
| 22:16.27 | JeffM | only if we did a run of shirts with the same design |
| 22:16.38 | delusional_ | Any double-x left? i might get another.. I like that design a lot |
| 22:16.40 | JeffM | for silkscreen stuff we have to print at least 50 things |
| 22:17.37 | JeffM | there are 5 XXL ones left |
| 22:18.08 | JeffM | now we may be able to do a hoodie with a single front embroidered logo |
| 22:18.22 | Erroneous | hm, that would be cool |
| 22:18.39 | JeffM | yeah yours is gettin old ;) |
| 22:18.52 | JeffM | and Bill wants one |
| 22:19.07 | Erroneous | heh |
| 22:20.07 | JeffM | I could order another 25 hats for under 300$, and then get some polos and hoodies done too |
| 22:20.11 | Think_Differentl | the hoodies had logos on the back? |
| 22:20.16 | JeffM | yeah |
| 22:20.25 | JeffM | they had the same exact thing as the shirts |
| 22:20.26 | Think_Differentl | yeah, front would be cool |
| 22:20.35 | JeffM | the old ones have both |
| 22:20.43 | JeffM | front and back |
| 22:20.48 | Think_Differentl | ah |
| 22:21.02 | JeffM | I'd like to get one for myself, I gave mine away to the lady that runs SOC |
| 22:21.09 | L4m3r | still wears his hoodie all the time :) |
| 22:21.20 | JeffM | what about the orange shirt? ;) |
| 22:21.28 | L4m3r | occasionally |
| 22:21.39 | JeffM | that thing hurt my eyes when I opened the box |
| 22:21.41 | L4m3r | gildan shirts are too short |
| 22:21.48 | JeffM | ahh |
| 22:21.53 | delusional_ | SOLD! .... after paypal completed the sale and attempted to send me back to bzflag.org... Not Found |
| 22:21.53 | delusional_ | The requested URL /index.php was not found on this server. |
| 22:21.56 | JeffM | google swaped to AA this year |
| 22:22.04 | JeffM | delusional_: really? |
| 22:22.06 | JeffM | that sucks |
| 22:22.16 | JeffM | I got your order tho |
| 22:22.25 | L4m3r | maybe I should grab a XX to test the fit |
| 22:22.29 | JeffM | I'll have to see what the URL is set to |
| 22:22.40 | delusional_ | i get the monkey hitting keys thing... |
| 22:22.42 | JeffM | the store is pretty chezzy right now |
| 22:22.54 | JeffM | what is the URL It sent you back to? |
| 22:23.11 | delusional_ | http://store.bzflag.bz/index.php?main_page=checkout_process&tx=78V58316PV605070R&st=Completed&amt=19.00&cc=USD&cm=&item_number= |
| 22:23.39 | JeffM | wow |
| 22:23.47 | JeffM | it's suposed to send you elsewhere |
| 22:23.59 | JeffM | they just changed the paypal site I'll look at it this weekend |
| 22:25.11 | JeffM | totaly can't remember the paypal password |
| 22:25.27 | L4m3r | oops |
| 22:26.51 | JeffM | what's sad is I typed it this morning |
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| 22:29.57 | JeffM | well if anyone can think of a logo idea for an embroidered hoodie and a hat I'll get em made |
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| 22:36.26 | L4m3r | embroidered? hm... |
| 22:36.45 | Landon___ | Oh, hats are going up? Sweet |
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| 22:40.10 | L4m3r | so, how hard would it be to compile BZFlag on my droid? XD |
| 22:41.35 | Think_Differentl | L4m3r, I bet you could compile bzadmin, though. |
| 22:41.42 | russellb | compiling anything _on_ an embedded device seems silly :-p |
| 22:42.05 | L4m3r | compile it _for_ the droid, then... |
| 22:42.14 | L4m3r | Think_Differentl: I could just use ssh for that |
| 22:42.30 | russellb | teehee. |
| 22:42.35 | blast007 | do you have the build environment set up already? |
| 22:42.45 | Think_Differentl | is there a decent ssh client for android? I know there are some good IRC apps. |
| 22:42.55 | L4m3r | blast007: nope |
| 22:43.21 | L4m3r | I wasn't entirely serious- I'm not sure if the hardware is quite up to it |
| 22:43.51 | JeffM | I don't know if I'll do hat, I may |
| 22:43.58 | JeffM | if so I'd have to redo the logo |
| 22:43.59 | L4m3r | Think_Differentl: I haven't tested it extensively, but connectbot seems to work well enough |
| 22:44.15 | JeffM | and I'll need to see if brlcad is ok with spending the money |
| 22:44.29 | JeffM | counts him as the treasurer |
| 22:44.34 | L4m3r | you could buy a lot of beer with $700 |
| 22:44.51 | JeffM | indeed |
| 22:45.19 | JeffM | the problem with beer is not it's cost bust it's logical deployment |
| 22:45.31 | JeffM | we have 700.88$ as of right now |
| 22:46.01 | JeffM | hmmm maybe I'll redo bzflag store with simple cart this weekend. |
| 22:46.46 | JeffM | zencart was a bit overkill |
| 22:46.58 | JeffM | and I'd prefer to not store customer data |
| 22:47.42 | L4m3r | yeah, sounds like a liability |
| 22:48.06 | JeffM | it's mostly the fact that it let you ship elsewhere then your paypal address |
| 22:48.15 | JeffM | and I'd screw that up when I did it manualy |
| 22:48.30 | JeffM | the current store only lets me do what paypal says is ok |
| 22:48.32 | jh` | hi JeffM |
| 22:48.36 | JeffM | hello |
| 22:48.48 | jh` | so you are back? |
| 22:49.01 | JeffM | what does that mean? |
| 22:49.10 | JeffM | where did I go? |
| 22:49.30 | jh` | i was under impression you are taking a break |
| 22:49.33 | jh` | from bz |
| 22:49.49 | JeffM | I do less bz code sure |
| 22:49.55 | JeffM | and log into IRC less |
| 22:50.01 | JeffM | mostly cus work is busy |
| 22:50.43 | jh` | but you are still in 'charge'? |
| 22:50.50 | JeffM | huh? |
| 22:50.58 | JeffM | I've never been in charge |
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| 22:51.43 | jh` | ah, who is then? |
| 22:51.59 | JeffM | TimRiker is the maintainer, as it's always been |
| 22:52.09 | JeffM | for as much as that means for "in charge" |
| 22:53.32 | JeffM | as for today, we sold a shirt so we are just talking about doing some more, that don't imply any more activity on my part. |
| 22:54.10 | jh` | you sold a shirt? |
| 22:54.26 | JeffM | 2 actualy |
| 22:56.04 | jh` | and who does that money go to |
| 22:56.06 | jh` | ? |
| 22:56.45 | JeffM | it's in a paypal account |
| 22:56.55 | JeffM | brlcad, tim, and dtr have access to it |
| 22:57.08 | JeffM | if we had an org, it'd be owned by that |
| 22:57.17 | JeffM | brlcad currently manages the SOC money |
| 22:57.27 | JeffM | that's why I consider him the treasurer |
| 22:57.32 | Erroneous | it's used as seed money for future printings of shirts and so on |
| 22:57.47 | JeffM | tho the shirt stuff is still running off the first SOC's profits |
| 22:57.50 | JeffM | yeah |
| 22:58.28 | Erroneous | the goal is not to make money, the goal is to make bzflag merchandise available to the community |
| 22:58.44 | JeffM | this is what the polo shirt looked like, http://picasaweb.google.com/JeffM2501/Embroidery#5202937732743743186 |
| 22:59.12 | Erroneous | ah, that did come out well |
| 22:59.29 | JeffM | for a new hat I'd probably take the white circle out and overlap the text, http://picasaweb.google.com/JeffM2501/Embroidery#5198443795490108706 |
| 22:59.44 | JeffM | and beef up those thin lines |
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| 23:00.55 | JeffM | joevano: how was the shirt quality, how did it hold up? |
| 23:03.45 | jh` | :) |
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| 23:42.01 | joevano | JeffM: still looks good |
| 23:42.28 | joevano | wear it probably every other week |
| 23:42.32 | JeffM | cool |
| 23:42.48 | JeffM | I can't find the book they sent me with all the stuff in it ;( |
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| 23:49.48 | joevano | JeffM: the total was 24.80 w/shipping (I think) |
| 23:49.53 | JeffM | k |
| 23:50.26 | JeffM | I'll have to fire them off an email and see what they have available now |
| 23:50.45 | joevano | that was a tough onu to figure out... but it was the only payment without some sort of reciept from the store |
| 23:50.53 | JeffM | heh |
| 23:57.42 | joevano | hehe... just loocked down... guess what shirt I have on today ;) |
| 23:57.50 | joevano | looked * |
| 23:58.20 | JeffM | heh |