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| 00:04.00 | zsircusr | Any ideas about porting to WinCE and Android? |
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| 00:06.53 | moonscapex | Any ideas about porting to WinCE or android? |
| 00:08.23 | blast007 | any ideas about implementing some patience? |
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| 00:12.38 | JeffM | moonscapex: noone has started a proejct for it |
| 00:12.44 | JeffM | if you want to, go for it |
| 00:12.50 | moonscapex | ok |
| 00:13.16 | JeffM | CE dosn't have GL and android is java, so you'll be rewriting it from the ground up |
| 00:13.34 | moonscapex | is opengl required, even if you set the graphics are set to low q? |
| 00:13.45 | JeffM | all our drawing is in GL |
| 00:13.52 | JeffM | we have no software rendering |
| 00:14.40 | moonscapex | ok, wince does have openGL ES, dont know if its the same |
| 00:15.06 | JeffM | it is not |
| 00:15.58 | moonscapex | ok, looks like bzflag mobile is going to be hardercthan i pictured |
| 00:16.23 | moonscapex | porting bzadmin could be possible though |
| 00:17.10 | moonscapex | hasn't someone already ported bzadmin to a mobile device? |
| 00:18.33 | JeffM | not really |
| 00:18.59 | JeffM | some use ssh to hit one that is on a real computer |
| 00:19.09 | JeffM | the official stance is that we'd like mobie admin to be done via a browser |
| 00:19.14 | JeffM | hence WebAdmin |
| 00:19.45 | moonscapex | ok |
| 00:20.16 | JeffM | as for a mobile game, it would be better to make a new game for the mobile systems that is inspired by bzflag, rather then a direct code port |
| 00:20.37 | JeffM | you'll end up with a better product that is more fun to play if its talored to the mobile device |
| 00:21.26 | moonscapex | there is a webadmin for bzflag or is it being developed? |
| 00:21.38 | JeffM | it is part of our V3.0 svn |
| 00:22.03 | JeffM | v3 has a full HTTP subsystem to let browsers connect for various reasons |
| 00:22.14 | JeffM | WebAdmin was started as a SOC project 2 years ago |
| 00:22.54 | JeffM | webchat has also been proposed to allow players to chat as themselves |
| 00:23.00 | moonscapex | ok, opera mobile will probably work with the webadmin |
| 00:23.04 | JeffM | it would not be hard to write using server side players |
| 00:23.16 | moonscapex | cool, ill try it soon |
| 00:23.18 | JeffM | heh webadmin has very basic HTML requirements :) |
| 00:23.21 | blast007 | moonscapex: I compiled bzadmin for my N800 |
| 00:23.23 | blast007 | which already runs linux |
| 00:23.25 | JeffM | like HTML1 |
| 00:23.47 | moonscapex | yes |
| 00:26.46 | JeffM | just got his N770 back and has no idea what to do with it |
| 00:31.30 | JeffM | moonscapex: you should note that webadmin only works in 2.99.x + it won't work on 2.0.x servers |
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| 01:35.59 | brlcad | JeffM: I'm back and around now, high low howdy ho |
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| 01:39.16 | me1 | brlcad, do you happen to run the bzflag server brl.arpa.net ? |
| 01:42.04 | brlcad | me1: no, that's BulletCatcher |
| 01:42.15 | me1 | ah, he's not here |
| 01:42.26 | me1 | thanks for the info |
| 01:42.30 | brlcad | sure |
| 01:48.40 | JeffM | doooood! he lives |
| 01:48.53 | JeffM | brlcad: so how much cool stuff do you want for bzflag? :) |
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| 01:51.25 | JeffM | cus it would be nice to use a little more money then I have in the paypal account |
| 01:51.32 | JeffM | and I'd like to get the spending limits removed |
| 01:51.39 | JeffM | so I had an idea |
| 01:56.39 | brlcad | heh, was off on vacation then off walkabout |
| 01:56.46 | JeffM | yeah I know |
| 01:56.51 | brlcad | read a little backlog |
| 01:56.53 | JeffM | looks like you had fun |
| 01:56.55 | brlcad | open an account |
| 01:57.15 | JeffM | yeah then link it to the paypal, that makes us verified and makes it easier to transfer money |
| 01:57.23 | brlcad | yeah |
| 01:57.24 | brlcad | sounds good |
| 01:57.59 | JeffM | how much do we have now? |
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| 01:58.07 | JeffM | should be enough to get a free checking somewhere |
| 02:07.13 | brlcad | hm, have to check my spreadsheet |
| 02:08.42 | JeffM | and how do you feel about doing laptop bags? |
| 02:08.54 | brlcad | if people want them, sure .. |
| 02:09.06 | JeffM | noone has asked for em, they just sound cool :) |
| 02:09.07 | brlcad | not something I'd personally need :) |
| 02:10.14 | JeffM | well I'd like to order like 35 hats, as I think that'll be a decent stock to keep, and then 20 polos and then like 20 sweatshirts |
| 02:10.34 | JeffM | I think we'll eventualy sell the sweatshirts, a lot of people have asked for them and we don't keep them in stock |
| 02:11.29 | JeffM | and that much comes to just over a grand |
| 02:12.22 | JeffM | so it'd take a bit over 400 more over what we have in paypal now ( assuming that we keep a 100$ buffer for shipping and comps) |
| 02:13.05 | JeffM | we get free shipping on any order over 150$ so I can make a small order now and see how it goes |
| 02:13.11 | JeffM | if it looks to risky |
| 02:13.33 | brlcad | sounds reasonable |
| 02:13.55 | JeffM | I did find a cool army hat that would look good |
| 02:14.05 | jorgenpt | Where is this stuff from? |
| 02:14.06 | JeffM | and some strech fit ball caps |
| 02:14.19 | JeffM | jorgenpt: we use a company called logodogz to do our printing |
| 02:14.25 | jorgenpt | Pl |
| 02:14.31 | jorgenpt | Ok |
| 02:14.35 | JeffM | they are back east, but have reasonable minimums and take paypal |
| 02:14.38 | JeffM | that's the main reason |
| 02:14.47 | JeffM | for embroiderd items there is no minium |
| 02:14.50 | brlcad | I'll get the number and transfer it over |
| 02:15.23 | JeffM | well you have access to the paypal account, so you can just log in and hook it up |
| 02:15.55 | brlcad | ah, okay |
| 02:16.31 | JeffM | mostly just wants trasperancy on it all |
| 02:16.40 | JeffM | people do get uptight when money is involved :) |
| 02:17.27 | JeffM | now, there is also THIS hat we could use, it's ugly but oddly fitting, http://blankshirts.com/details.asp?style=C851&uid= |
| 02:17.35 | JeffM | cycle thru the various colors |
| 02:18.17 | JeffM | and tell me that isn't VERY close to tank camo |
| 02:20.02 | JeffM | the ones I am seriously looking at are 25 of these, http://www.clothingwarehouse.com/district-threads-adult-distressed-military-hat-dt605.html |
| 02:20.13 | JeffM | and 10 of these http://www.clothing4all.com/prod-Distressed_Hats_District_Threads_DT600-1705.aspx |
| 02:25.26 | JeffM | goes home to feed |
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| 08:58.24 | randomparticle | i'm getting the same problem i got with 2.0.10. can't connect to the list server. works fine with more recent libcurl source |
| 08:58.51 | randomparticle | windows 7 x64 |
| 08:59.00 | randomparticle | 32-bit build |
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| 09:51.21 | a_meteorite | BulletCatcher: And that IP is? |
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| 12:03.41 | randomparticle | am wondering if it's not a version issue at all |
| 12:03.59 | randomparticle | seems odd that both c-ares and libcurl would simultaneously go fluffy |
| 12:05.02 | randomparticle | i compiled the adig tool with c-ares 1.5.1 and that works. but hub.bzflag.bz isn't being resolved in bzflag according to the console |
| 12:05.16 | randomparticle | with c-ares 1.7.0 i don't get that message in the console |
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| 18:09.18 | JeffM | ok, so anyone have any opinions on zip up or pullover hoodies? |
| 18:09.40 | WarPig | zip up ftw |
| 18:12.44 | JeffM | most of the zip ups are 50/50 cotton polyester blends, they will shrink |
| 18:14.00 | WarPig | Make not of that on the store page, ppl can order next larger size :P |
| 18:14.06 | WarPig | note* |
| 18:14.20 | JeffM | it's also a lower quality product |
| 18:14.30 | JeffM | but yeah |
| 18:14.31 | spldart | Same quality as the last batch? |
| 18:14.41 | spldart | The one I got two of? |
| 18:14.42 | JeffM | nope, zip ups are a different brand |
| 18:14.50 | JeffM | you have a pullover gildan |
| 18:14.50 | spldart | Ah.. |
| 18:14.55 | JeffM | 80% cotton |
| 18:14.59 | spldart | I bought two zip up hoodies |
| 18:15.02 | JeffM | they don't have a zip up like that |
| 18:15.04 | spldart | a while back |
| 18:15.06 | JeffM | did you? |
| 18:15.16 | JeffM | if you did those may be haynes |
| 18:15.21 | JeffM | if so tell me what they are |
| 18:15.27 | JeffM | and how you like it |
| 18:15.28 | spldart | 50% cotton, 50% poly |
| 18:15.35 | WarPig | lower quality = lower cost(?) = higher margin = more profit.... ftw |
| 18:15.37 | spldart | gildan heavy blend |
| 18:15.40 | spldart | I like it alot |
| 18:16.02 | JeffM | hmmm, I'll have to see if they have the gildan blend one |
| 18:16.08 | JeffM | how much did it shrink. |
| 18:16.19 | spldart | About one size |
| 18:16.25 | spldart | I have a 2xl hoodie |
| 18:16.37 | spldart | I wear a xl to 1xl shirt. |
| 18:16.41 | spldart | I like my stuff a bit baggie |
| 18:16.45 | JeffM | yeah they don't make a 3xl zip up IIRC |
| 18:16.49 | spldart | ah |
| 18:16.59 | JeffM | the pullovers didn't shrink that much |
| 18:17.03 | spldart | ah |
| 18:17.24 | JeffM | brlcad gave me the go ahead to do make a larger order, so we will be keeping some hoodies in stock this time |
| 18:17.51 | spldart | want me to text that query to my daughters.. zip or pull? being teens in high school they may have a finger on the pulse of frumpy fasion lol |
| 18:18.28 | JeffM | sure |
| 18:18.34 | spldart | k |
| 18:18.40 | JeffM | the more info I have the better I can know what will sell |
| 18:19.47 | JeffM | yeah they are no longer offering that one that you have |
| 18:20.00 | JeffM | I'll probably go hanes then |
| 18:20.05 | JeffM | they have those in 3xl |
| 18:20.30 | JeffM | then I have to pick designs and colors |
| 18:22.39 | spldart | ok... text "Not a gift. Just a question. Do you and your friends prefer zip up or pullover hoodies" Thought I should get a bigger sample than two girls. Possibly. Hehe |
| 18:23.01 | JeffM | I'm thinking blue for sweatshirts, and maroon for polos |
| 18:23.17 | spldart | I like the maroon polo idea |
| 18:23.59 | JeffM | the navy shirts looked good, so I think it'll be good for a sweatshirt |
| 18:24.12 | JeffM | and the design we have is for white on a dark background |
| 18:24.17 | spldart | Ah.. navy blue... hrm.. oki doki |
| 18:25.16 | WarPig | I like the maroon polo idea to. Put me down for one. |
| 18:25.21 | JeffM | then a mix of army green, khaki, and brown hats |
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| 18:40.44 | spldart | guesses he will have to wait till between periods or when school lets out in under 2 hours :~/ |
| 18:40.56 | spldart | -texts- |
| 18:47.53 | JeffM | and what do you think, more army style hats or more regular caps? |
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| 18:53.53 | ruskie | what would be the diff? |
| 18:54.16 | JeffM | the army style is more SQUARE |
| 18:54.19 | JeffM | opps |
| 18:54.24 | JeffM | square |
| 18:54.39 | JeffM | http://www.clothingwarehouse.com/district-threads-adult-distressed-military-hat-dt605.html |
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| 18:54.57 | JeffM | seemed to fit RE: tanks |
| 18:55.30 | ruskie | hmm don't have any of those yet |
| 18:55.53 | ruskie | need to find a new paypal person |
| 18:56.05 | ruskie | since I'm guessing the store still only accepts paypal |
| 18:57.09 | temporalD | JeffM, I like that hat choice |
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| 19:19.35 | spldart | I already know my daughters would say army style. |
| 19:51.21 | spldart | Meh.. even though I prefer zip ups my eldest says pullovers. Darn those rebellious teens ;) Still waiting on younger daughter. |
| 19:52.44 | temporalD | not a daughter, but I vote zip up :D |
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| 20:23.19 | a_meteorite | zip ups too |
| 20:23.31 | a_meteorite | but I probably won't buy one :P |
| 20:31.33 | JeffM | ruskie: ohh yeah paypal only. I've even taken it further by taking out the store login, all info is to paypal |
| 20:35.02 | spldart | Huh... younger daughter says zip up. Daddy's little girl :) Anywho.. eldest is a senior and youngest a sophomore. |
| 20:35.23 | JeffM | I think I'll do zip |
| 20:35.25 | spldart | And that's at a fairly affluent H.S., |
| 20:35.38 | JeffM | but split the colors |
| 20:35.43 | JeffM | some navy some green |
| 20:35.59 | spldart | Have an idea on the price yet? |
| 20:36.08 | JeffM | 40$ |
| 20:36.12 | JeffM | they will be embroidered |
| 20:36.25 | spldart | has the logo been decided on? |
| 20:36.36 | JeffM | I will be mixing it up |
| 20:36.40 | spldart | k |
| 20:36.51 | JeffM | I have 2 designs from saturos' contest entries |
| 20:37.00 | JeffM | navy blue will use his "splat" design |
| 20:37.14 | JeffM | green will use his "gear tank" design |
| 20:37.25 | JeffM | army hats will be gear, regular hats will be splat |
| 20:37.37 | JeffM | polos will ether be the icon or the gear and bzflag.org |
| 20:37.57 | joevano | 3\o/ |
| 20:38.14 | spldart | O->=< |
| 20:38.23 | JeffM | then Erroneous will be able to get his green one :) |
| 20:38.26 | spldart | eta at the store? |
| 20:38.33 | JeffM | dunno |
| 20:38.45 | JeffM | probalby just about the end of the year |
| 20:38.51 | spldart | I'll keep an eye out then. ah. ok |
| 20:38.51 | JeffM | I don't think I'll make xmass |
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| 20:39.16 | JeffM | brlcad is going to get me the extra money I need into paypal, then I'll have em made |
| 20:39.29 | JeffM | then they take like 5 days to make, and 7 to ship |
| 20:39.35 | JeffM | no pre-order this time |
| 20:39.41 | spldart | I guess if you get in shortly thereafter perhaps you can take advantage of the younger players xmas moneys |
| 20:39.51 | JeffM | possibly |
| 20:40.07 | JeffM | once I have the designs finalized I'll post on the fourms so people can know |
| 20:40.30 | JeffM | this'll be the first time we've kept sweatshirts in stock so it'll be interesting to see how it goes |
| 20:41.12 | JeffM | I'l be spending 1060$, that's a bit scarry :) |
| 20:41.38 | JeffM | but that should turn around into over 1700$ when its' done, then maybe I can do stickers and mugs |
| 20:41.40 | spldart | Oh crap! |
| 20:42.41 | spldart | Yah know... A release timed with the stores 'stocking up' could help get the sales started. /me ducks |
| 20:42.53 | JeffM | hah |
| 20:43.06 | JeffM | I'll have to change the store pages too |
| 20:43.09 | JeffM | the old store died |
| 20:43.18 | JeffM | current store is a bit geheto |
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| 20:48.31 | JeffM | brlcad: you want to comp anyone any store items from this order? |
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| 20:54.06 | brlcad | JeffM: mm, could give Ellen some swag |
| 20:54.32 | JeffM | there is a comps section on the spreadsheet, just fill it in for what you want |
| 20:55.01 | JeffM | refines his small order just in case money falls thru :) |
| 20:55.19 | brlcad | "3.0 will be delayed until someone buys this shirt" |
| 20:55.31 | JeffM | heh |
| 20:55.44 | JeffM | I'm going to take laptop bags off the order |
| 20:55.49 | JeffM | dunno if anyone would buy one |
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| 20:57.39 | JeffM | brlcad: you totally need a BZFlag lab coat for work right? |
| 20:58.26 | brlcad | haha |
| 20:58.30 | brlcad | that would be pretty funny |
| 20:58.34 | JeffM | 22$ |
| 20:58.55 | JeffM | they have scrubs too |
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| 21:13.04 | Wreckage | bzflag earings available for family Christmas gifts? |
| 21:15.24 | JeffM | heh |
| 21:15.33 | JeffM | knows no jewlers |
| 21:16.11 | Wreckage | hah too bad |
| 21:19.08 | JeffM | if I could figure out how I'd seriously make BulletCatcher's tank cookie cutters |
| 21:19.20 | JeffM | and sell those |
| 21:26.03 | JeffM | well I could figure out how to make them, I just mean in quantity :) |
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