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01:20.40delusionalJeffM, i would like to mention...  I'm working on some stickers with a long-time BZFlag player "Brother MoPar", who is owner of this http://vinylrocket.com/index.html .... He does not do printing, only cut-outs, but we might be able to come up with something interesting.
01:21.06delusionalIf so, i'll probbly donate what I get made, to the store.
01:21.41delusionalCan anybody think of a tank graphic that would look best as a cut-out?
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01:27.41delusionalhere is the first draft...  he says he can fit that on a 6 by 6 inch square  http://images.planet-mofo.com/A-Delusion/psych/BZ_sticker1.png
01:43.12delusionalThe tank on the chestnut shirts might be perfect for this project...  is there a file showing just that tank, somewhere?
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02:09.11Gabe_G23delusional: i likey
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22:17.44WarPigJeffM1:ping
22:18.00JeffM1?
22:18.24WarPigAre you THE JeffM
22:18.27WarPig?
22:18.29JeffM1yes
22:19.00WarPigI noticed you talking abotu the bzflag store, and how it exploded.  Have you seen osCommerce?
22:19.15JeffM1I have seen many store softwares :)
22:20.01WarPigI have set up osCommerce many times.  It has Paypal integration built in.  Might be a good candidate for the bzflag store, if you still are looking.
22:20.12JeffM1perhaps
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22:20.20WarPigPHP, MySQL based
22:20.21JeffM1there are a number of open source store systems
22:20.39JeffM1I'm not too sure I need the complexity of one
22:20.58JeffM1don't realy need logins/user tracking/ads etc..
22:21.15JeffM1paypal does the basics for what we need
22:21.19JeffM1but we'll see
22:22.13WarPigAhh - OK.  Just thought I'd mention it.  If you need a hand, I'm offering.
22:22.38JeffM1thanks, but if a single person can't set it up then it's probably more complex then we need
22:22.46WarPighaha
22:23.03JeffM1from a process standpoint the paypal buttons are the most simple for me
22:23.14JeffM1and not having to store any kind of user data is nice
22:24.02JeffM1osCommerce look to be on par with zencart and others for features and complexity
22:24.46WarPigYeah.  I don't know if you can turn the user account stuff off in osCommerce by default.  It'd be easier to hack something up from scratch than to try to rip it out.
22:27.23WarPigWell, have a good weekend.  I'm out.
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22:44.41JeffM1heh, osCommerce doesn't pass a sucks test.
22:46.48brlcadheh
22:47.34JeffM1looks like it hasn't been updated in a while too, docs in the RC are stamped with a 2005 date
22:48.03JeffM1I think a store that dosn't need it's own login will be a big help
22:48.36JeffM1I'd probalby do Magento if I did another premade one.
22:49.31JeffM1it's backed by development on a paid enterprise edition.
22:55.22JeffM1brlcad: look at the designs yet?
23:07.06brlcadurl?
23:07.38JeffM1http://www.awesomelaser.com/tmp/win2009emb/
23:07.38JeffM1blue splat on blue hoodies and hats
23:07.38brlcadsaw delusional's images
23:07.44JeffM1green gear on green hoodies and the military hats
23:07.54JeffM1and the polo image
23:08.03JeffM1delusional had images?
23:08.15brlcadstickers
23:08.26JeffM1haven't seen those
23:08.41JeffM1tho I did find out that logodogz does do mugs and steel travel cups
23:08.44brlcadhttp://images.planet-mofo.com/A-Delusion/psych/BZ_sticker1.png
23:08.58JeffM1not bad
23:09.04JeffM1rights on the image could be interesting
23:09.10JeffM1be good in an oval sticker
23:09.17brlcadHm, I like bluesplat, but not where the drip is going
23:09.36JeffM1stickers will cost us a decent penny, and I dounno how to sell em
23:09.49JeffM1sugestion for it?
23:10.24brlcadmesses with BZFlag word.. maybe moving it over to the right so the . is a drip
23:10.35JeffM1ok I could try that
23:10.50brlcadup a lil bit, or make the drip just come from the right side
23:10.51JeffM1these all were just quickies
23:11.01brlcadflip the hole
23:11.06JeffM1yeah
23:11.20brlcadthen just have to move a smidge
23:11.23brlcadlike it though..
23:11.33JeffM1I have it all as SVG so editing is easy
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23:51.06delusionalYeah Jeff, after asking around, I found that this small company, http://vinylrocket.com/ , is owned by a long-time BZPlayer "Brother Mopar".  He does not do printing, only cut-out stickers. We're working on a design now, that image above is a proof-of-concept.  
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23:51.31delusionalI'm going to send him those images you posted above...  we're working on it.
23:51.32JeffM1delusional: ahh
23:51.47JeffM1yeah sign printers are different the sticker printers
23:52.04JeffM1I doubt you could cut a sign with that detal
23:52.07JeffM1but you could print it
23:52.23delusionalI tried to talk about price once, he wouldn't talk about it.  t moght just end up being gratis.
23:52.29JeffM1an outline sign of the icon image could be cool
23:52.58delusionalI'm sure he'd do a few for free, but if we wanted 100, that might be different
23:53.27JeffM1yeah I dunno how many cutouts like that we could sell
23:53.32JeffM1maybe if they were small
23:53.55JeffM1I did look into actual bumper stickers, we can do em for about 250$ for a bunch of em
23:54.00JeffM1I just am not sure how to sell em
23:54.04delusionalwell, look at this again. http://images.planet-mofo.com/A-Delusion/psych/BZ_sticker1.png    you see how light and dark play... if you have a great design, i'm sure we'd use it.
23:54.09JeffM1since shipping would kill us
23:54.32JeffM1I doubt that could be cut
23:54.56delusionalHe's talking about 4, 6, and 8 inch squares....  maybe 4 by 8... or any combination of 4, 6, or 8 inch
23:54.58JeffM1also know that his stickers are single color, where what you stick them on is the background.
23:55.07JeffM1if they are what I am thinking about
23:55.10delusionalsingle color
23:55.14JeffM1I put some on my motorcyle once
23:55.25JeffM1yeah you'd have to clean up that tank a lot
23:55.28JeffM1where did you get it?
23:55.38delusionalhe did that... not sure.
23:55.45JeffM1ahh then maybe stock art
23:55.55JeffM1you'd probably print it in white
23:56.01JeffM1as they are often stuck on car windows
23:56.22JeffM1it's the same tech that's used for the "peeing" kid window stickers
23:56.33delusionalyeah.
23:56.55JeffM1it's bassicly a ploter with an exacto knife blade instead of a pen
23:57.07delusionalexactly
23:57.27JeffM1thinks 8 inches wide is illegal in the US for a window sticker :)
23:57.38JeffM1or at least in CA
23:58.07delusional... so if you had a design that might work.. let me know about it.
23:58.22JeffM1the only one I can think of is the icon outline
23:58.27JeffM1it works well in a single color
23:59.03JeffM1basically what we put on the front of the original shirts.
23:59.37JeffM1Saturos' origonal back design works well in 2 colors, breaks down a bit in one
23:59.50delusionali was looking.. where is that one?

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