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| 00:03.59 | tobylane | oh wow you're active |
| 00:04.09 | tobylane | well not wow, just news |
| 00:20.06 | tobylane | ha, judging by some recent chat logs i should publish an avatar |
| 00:23.24 | JeffM | huh? |
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| 00:30.02 | dexter- | evenin' |
| 00:30.43 | dexter- | blast007: ping |
| 00:32.05 | me1 | kiilll the spammer http://my.bzflag.org/bb/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=47104 |
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| 01:10.31 | blast007 | JeffM: tobylane was mistaken. the serverControl plugin (which is included in our source) only reload bans and restarts the server when empty (if specific files exist). The spawning off the base was just the built-in freeCtfSpawns option. |
| 01:10.55 | JeffM | yeah I think he was confused about a lot of things :) |
| 01:13.54 | blast007 | s/was/is/ |
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| 02:45.02 | JeffM | + |
| 02:45.05 | JeffM | oops |
| 02:45.25 | JeffM | wonders if brlcad will make this year the year of the bzflag foundation :) |
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| 03:39.32 | delusional_ | tax deductible? |
| 03:40.37 | SportChick | 1n 17 |
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| 04:15.58 | JeffM | tax exempt would be nice |
| 04:16.10 | JeffM | but mostly just something to hold copyright and be an "entity" |
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| 06:25.19 | bizarrefish | hello, all. |
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| 12:32.03 | brad | bz on ubuntu segfaults every time I run it....is there a way to find out whats wrong? I tried the client from apt-get and a compiled one but both give the same |
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| 12:44.26 | randomparticle | yes, if it weren't for the elephants |
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| 14:39.06 | BulletCatcher | brad: A corrupted download cache can cause segfaults. If that is the problem, removing the entire ~/.bzf/cache directory will fix it. |
| 14:40.25 | BulletCatcher | The next step would be to rename ~/.bzf to something like bzf-old. If that works, then use the contents of bzf-old/2.0/config.cfg as a reference to get your settings back. |
| 14:41.18 | BulletCatcher | Anything beyond that requires running the gdb debugger. |
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| 20:58.51 | temporalD | is there a perm that will limit game chat to a certain channel - so obs could only talk to obs channel ? |
| 21:02.07 | mrapplecomputer1 | no |
| 21:02.27 | mrapplecomputer1 | theres admin chat but not obs chat |
| 21:03.01 | JeffM | IIRC the server dosn't realy know about channels |
| 21:18.06 | blast007 | temporalD: don't think there is |
| 21:18.16 | blast007 | JeffM: the server does |
| 21:18.32 | JeffM | isn't it just part of the message text? |
| 21:18.34 | blast007 | there's a perm, for example, for being able to send to the admin 'channel' |
| 21:18.39 | JeffM | ahh |
| 21:18.45 | blast007 | it's a specific recipient |
| 21:18.49 | JeffM | k |
| 21:19.00 | JeffM | then you could probably make a plugin for it |
| 21:19.42 | temporalD | the folks in the Riker Cup were talking about how to deal with obs sending to the public channel - and if they should ban |
| 21:20.04 | temporalD | seemed like it would be fairly straightforward to limit chat to a certain channel... |
| 21:20.47 | blast007 | can't remember if the 'talk' permission covers sending to the team as well |
| 21:21.04 | blast007 | I think private messages between players is an existing permission, at least |
| 21:21.34 | JeffM | yea you could just silence them |
| 21:21.58 | temporalD | after the fact |
| 21:22.04 | JeffM | put each team into it's own group, then make the default perm silence and just give talk perms to the teams that are playing |
| 21:22.19 | JeffM | you could also make the default perm no spawn |
| 21:22.23 | JeffM | then only team players can join |
| 21:22.26 | JeffM | and play |
| 21:25.46 | blast007 | looks like you'd have to do a plugin to block observers talking to the 'all' channel |
| 21:26.03 | JeffM | or change the receipient |
| 21:27.06 | temporalD | 55 observers - lol |
| 21:27.57 | blast007 | holy cow ;D |
| 21:30.57 | ruskie | :) |
| 21:33.35 | ruskie | hmm the server list should ignore observers when listing by number of users and should use percentage of server occupied to list them so a 80% server that has 20 slots would go above a 200 slot server with 20 users playing |
| 21:33.49 | JeffM | it does for 3.0 |
| 21:33.53 | JeffM | that was changed a while ago |
| 21:34.11 | JeffM | ignores bots too |
| 21:34.13 | temporalD | 3.0 counts observers as 1/100th of a player or so |
| 21:34.21 | JeffM | yeah it was all redone |
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| 22:04.46 | blast007 | I thought even 2.0.x counts observers as less |
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| 22:06.46 | bizarrefish | hi, all |
| 22:06.55 | blast007 | hi |
| 22:06.58 | bizarrefish | what's the story with bzflag and ultrasparc machines |
| 22:07.05 | bizarrefish | in gentoo, bzflag is masked |
| 22:07.30 | blast007 | masked meaning what? |
| 22:07.31 | brlcad | there is no story |
| 22:07.57 | bizarrefish | in gentoo, they mask packages which dont compile properly on specific architectures |
| 22:08.24 | bizarrefish | i just realised that i started two sentences with 'in gentoo,' i must sound like such a ricer. |
| 22:08.42 | bizarrefish | but no, there is actually a good reason to run gentoo on that machine. |
| 22:09.33 | blast007 | have you tried compiling it manually? |
| 22:09.42 | bizarrefish | just downloading it now |
| 22:09.52 | blast007 | which version? |
| 22:10.04 | bizarrefish | 2.0.12 |
| 22:10.11 | blast007 | k |
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| 22:20.48 | blast007 | bizarrefish: can't say I've ever tried on a sparc system though - only one I've been around has a bad hard drive and a dead battery in the NVRAM chip ;) |
| 22:21.04 | blast007 | old ultra5 |
| 22:27.31 | bizarrefish | blast007: well, im trying to get bzfs up on an ultra 10. also, theres a fix for that problem - http://www.sun3zoo.de/en/nvram.html . |
| 22:27.56 | bizarrefish | look at the "repairing" section |
| 22:29.11 | brlcad | we've not done a sparc build in years |
| 22:29.32 | DTRemenak | bzflag builds fine on solaris/sparc. I'm not sure what the gentoo maintainer's motivation for masking it would be. |
| 22:29.34 | brlcad | nothing specific that should prevent it from compiling, though, other than trvial issues |
| 22:29.38 | bizarrefish | well, im about to try :) |
| 22:30.05 | brlcad | or that there isn't a maintainer, and the build broke for whatever reason, so it was masked.. |
| 22:30.48 | bizarrefish | maybe it just hasnt been tested enough, etc. sometimes they mask packages which are perfectly fine |
| 22:41.01 | bizarrefish | does bzfs need SDL? |
| 22:41.59 | brlcad | not directly, no |
| 22:42.11 | brlcad | but the client can |
| 22:44.47 | blast007 | bizarrefish: you can disable the client build by passing --disable-client to configure |
| 22:50.09 | bizarrefish | blast007: ah, i see |
| 22:50.11 | bizarrefish | ty |
| 22:53.48 | bizarrefish | hmm, after the configure, bzfs isn't being listed in the things that get built list. |
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| 23:01.44 | bizarrefish | hmm, bit of an issue here. "strncasecmp was not declared in this scope" wtf? |
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