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| 01:37.23 | thefirstdude | I am almost done!! |
| 01:37.24 | thefirstdude | sry |
| 01:37.34 | thefirstdude | I had to say somrthing |
| 01:38.07 | thefirstdude | 17 MB all together |
| 01:42.31 | blast007 | a large filesize doesn't really mean anything ;) |
| 01:44.03 | blast007 | just means you haven't optimized your geometry |
| 01:46.59 | me1 | maybe it's super big and optimized, but you just don't know it |
| 01:47.11 | me1 | like 5000x5000 units of awesome |
| 01:47.53 | trepan | me1: care to wager? |
| 01:48.02 | me1 | -$10 |
| 01:48.14 | me1 | pay up |
| 01:48.21 | me1 | ;) |
| 01:49.45 | trepan | i'm afraid you'll have to do better than that bilk me out of $10 ... could tell me about your princely troubles and how i might be able to extricate you from them |
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| 02:15.11 | blast007 | hehe |
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| 18:01.07 | blast007 | hmm, did those two just CTCP spam? |
| 18:01.22 | blast007 | if so, do not click on any links they mentioned |
| 18:04.46 | blast007 | oh, guess we're +R, so they couldn't ;) |
| 18:06.24 | JefferyM | we can go +V if we need to as well |
| 18:07.02 | blast007 | voice? |
| 18:07.28 | JefferyM | yeah |
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| 18:08.13 | BulletCatcher | It looks to me like +R worked in this case. |
| 18:08.19 | JefferyM | yeah |
| 18:08.21 | blast007 | yeah, it should have |
| 18:08.23 | JefferyM | R should be fine for us |
| 18:08.31 | blast007 | I just had CTCP's blocked, so I wasn't sure until I saw that ;) |
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| 18:23.15 | brlcad | sees no ctcp's today |
| 18:24.06 | blast007 | brlcad: yeah, we're +R, so only registered and identified users can speak |
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| 18:33.14 | thefirstdude | blast, looks like you got your highest score last nigh ;) |
| 18:34.21 | blast007 | definately not |
| 18:35.41 | blast007 | I've probably been around longer than the data in the current stats site, and under more than one name :P |
| 18:37.00 | thefirstdude | well, according to that stats website, you got your highest score last night, as blast... |
| 18:37.44 | blast007 | right |
| 18:37.50 | blast007 | but like I said ... |
| 18:38.37 | thefirstdude | dude, whitelikesnow was asking to be admin, and said he should be because he is admin on lots of servers and he is good and never evil |
| 18:38.43 | thefirstdude | http://my.bzflag.org/bb/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=47093 |
| 18:38.43 | brlcad | you mean, he got into the positive numbers for a change?? |
| 18:38.57 | blast007 | brlcad :P |
| 18:39.10 | thefirstdude | using unlimited geno |
| 18:39.19 | thefirstdude | to screw players on my map :( |
| 18:39.40 | blast007 | hey, it wasn't my fault my geno bullets kept hitting people ;) |
| 18:39.49 | blast007 | I mean, who would have expected that! |
| 18:41.17 | TheRedBaron | sweet, forums are more widescreen friendly |
| 18:41.27 | TheRedBaron | who do I ++ for that? |
| 18:41.45 | thefirstdude | phpbb |
| 18:41.47 | blast007 | think it was Jeff that found that theme |
| 18:41.58 | TheRedBaron | ~jeffm2501++ |
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| 18:43.40 | thefirstdude | Style name:proFormell |
| 18:43.47 | thefirstdude | Based on style:proSilver (this is the default phpBB 3 style) |
| 19:02.06 | JefferyM | brlcad, you know any IPs at sagonet atlanta? |
| 19:02.26 | brlcad | nope |
| 19:02.42 | JefferyM | we are wondering if it'll be closer |
| 19:02.45 | JefferyM | and better ping |
| 19:03.02 | JefferyM | it looks like I"ll be swaping to the 3 gig dual core system shortly |
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| 19:04.25 | JefferyM | well after I run it by that guy ^^^ ;) |
| 19:05.17 | thefirstdude | why am I getting "autogen.sh: 73: Syntax error: word unexpected (expecting "do")" when compiling bzflag |
| 19:05.43 | brlcad | because you're doing something wrong? |
| 19:05.55 | thefirstdude | no, because the script is doing something wrong |
| 19:06.12 | JefferyM | the script works for everyone else, I doubt it changed just on your machine |
| 19:06.24 | brlcad | if you're so sure, then you answered your own question |
| 19:06.48 | thefirstdude | well, I am running sh autogen.sh...and it's not liked I changed the script |
| 19:07.15 | thefirstdude | I don't even know how to write sh scripts |
| 19:07.27 | blast007 | well what version of the source are you looking at? |
| 19:07.29 | JefferyM | then you are missing somethign it needs |
| 19:07.48 | blast007 | line 73 for me in a comment line ;) |
| 19:07.54 | blast007 | (2.0.x branch) |
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| 19:08.17 | thefirstdude | I have BZFlag 2.0.8 |
| 19:08.30 | blast007 | well that explains a lot |
| 19:08.36 | blast007 | try one that isn't so ancient |
| 19:09.03 | blast007 | are you intending to run a server? |
| 19:09.08 | thefirstdude | I made special changes to bzfs in that version, so I want ti compile it... |
| 19:09.17 | blast007 | well, that sucks |
| 19:09.22 | blast007 | should have done it to a newer one ;) |
| 19:09.33 | thefirstdude | to see what changes I made..something to make a map that is king of the hill type |
| 19:09.39 | brlcad | thefirstdude: then you really wouldn't know if the script is doing something wrong or not, or if it's a misconfiguration of some sort (which it sounds like) -- try grabbing the latest autogen.sh from svn checkout |
| 19:09.47 | thefirstdude | dude, this was so long ago I don't even remember what I changed |
| 19:11.07 | thefirstdude | GNU Autoconf....sudo apt-get isntall ?? |
| 19:11.16 | brlcad | no |
| 19:11.34 | thefirstdude | I replaced autogen.sh with 2.0.12's version already |
| 19:11.43 | blast007 | you could always get a clean copy of 2.0.8 and then diff the two directories |
| 19:11.47 | brlcad | and when you ran it? |
| 19:12.04 | thefirstdude | it says it needs GNU autotools |
| 19:12.16 | brlcad | ah, then yes |
| 19:12.24 | brlcad | autoconf, automake, libtool |
| 19:12.25 | brlcad | install those |
| 19:12.54 | brlcad | (they will also want to pull in m4, perl, and maybe one or two other things) |
| 19:12.56 | blast007 | then you'll also need more stuff, like the curl development package, and maybe g++ if that wasn't included |
| 19:13.12 | brlcad | build-essentials iirc |
| 19:13.13 | thefirstdude | m4? |
| 19:13.24 | brlcad | start with autoconf/automake/libtool |
| 19:13.43 | brlcad | see if you get past autogen.sh first, then worry about what's next |
| 19:14.22 | brlcad | finds it humorous that line 73 is me |
| 19:14.26 | brlcad | I'm apparently your problem ;) |
| 19:15.07 | thefirstdude | wow...GNU Autoconf....sudo apt-get isntall ?? |
| 19:15.14 | thefirstdude | error: C compiler cannot create executables |
| 19:15.14 | thefirstdude | ... |
| 19:15.32 | brlcad | so you don't have a C compiler installed it sounds |
| 19:15.38 | thefirstdude | need sudo...nope did't work |
| 19:15.38 | brlcad | install gcc and g++ |
| 19:15.43 | thefirstdude | I have gcc |
| 19:15.55 | brlcad | "install gcc and g++" |
| 19:17.04 | thefirstdude | oh |
| 19:17.29 | thefirstdude | there should be a gc+ |
| 19:18.01 | blast007 | g++, not gc+ |
| 19:18.15 | thefirstdude | ok? |
| 19:18.42 | thefirstdude | I have g++, still can't create executables |
| 19:18.59 | JefferyM | brlcad, in case you ever need it, tpa.sagonet.com and atl.sagonet.com |
| 19:19.15 | JefferyM | looks like atl is ever so slightly faster for us here |
| 19:19.31 | brlcad | yeah, I found a server that "seemed like it was in atlanta |
| 19:19.36 | brlcad | about 5ms ping less |
| 19:19.39 | JefferyM | yeah |
| 19:19.41 | brlcad | 32ms fs 37ms |
| 19:19.44 | brlcad | *vs |
| 19:19.54 | JefferyM | 8 hops to atl, 14 hops to tpa for us |
| 19:20.01 | JefferyM | so I'll probalby move to atl |
| 19:20.16 | JefferyM | be nice to have it in a different data center if it's ever needed for BZ stuff |
| 19:20.17 | brlcad | east coast represent! |
| 19:20.54 | thefirstdude | in config.log it tried to run gcc conftest.c...it failed to compile cause of error: missing terminating " character |
| 19:21.02 | brlcad | thefirstdude: you'll have to read the config.log to see why "the C compiler cannot create executables" |
| 19:21.25 | brlcad | can you post it somewhere? |
| 19:22.15 | thefirstdude | http://pastebin.com/m2b5f3754 |
| 19:22.29 | thefirstdude | line 94 |
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| 19:24.58 | brlcad | pastebin.com is a blocked site for me |
| 19:24.59 | brlcad | ~bzpaste |
| 19:25.00 | ibot | extra, extra, read all about it, bzpaste is http://pastebin.bzflag.bz/ |
| 19:25.26 | brlcad | too much spammage and malware is filtered through there |
| 19:26.04 | thefirstdude | You don't have permission to access /pastebin.php on this server. |
| 19:26.18 | blast007 | heh |
| 19:26.23 | blast007 | mod_security ftl |
| 19:27.04 | thefirstdude | http://paste.ubuntu.com/365359/ |
| 19:27.09 | thefirstdude | is that blocked too? |
| 19:27.20 | brlcad | nah, that' works |
| 19:28.09 | blast007 | not sure why there's a stray "atl.sagonet.com" in the log though ;) |
| 19:28.59 | thefirstdude | hmmm,donno |
| 19:29.26 | blast007 | copy/paste mishap |
| 19:29.28 | brlcad | huh, it's actually attempting to validate the compiler yet still throw in our configure defines |
| 19:29.33 | thefirstdude | maybe ./configure logs more than it should |
| 19:29.48 | brlcad | the define it has for our version is wrong |
| 19:30.22 | thefirstdude | you mean #define VERSION "2.0.8"? |
| 19:30.45 | brlcad | is that what was in conftest.c ? |
| 19:30.51 | brlcad | because that's not what is in the log |
| 19:30.59 | blast007 | looks like his paste messed up |
| 19:31.12 | blast007 | the 2.0.8 is slip across multiple lines |
| 19:31.14 | blast007 | split* |
| 19:31.35 | thefirstdude | no, that is how it is in the log |
| 19:32.06 | blast007 | does it also have the atl.sagonet.com? |
| 19:32.09 | brlcad | yeah, the compile error is on that line (line "8") |
| 19:32.21 | brlcad | about missing a terminating " |
| 19:32.24 | thefirstdude | blast, ofcourse not |
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| 19:32.31 | brlcad | valid question :P |
| 19:33.05 | thefirstdude | so I need to edit autogen.sh or what do I edit |
| 19:33.38 | brlcad | configure.ac |
| 19:33.42 | thefirstdude | what is it for sdl..ubuntu? |
| 19:33.47 | thefirstdude | I tried SDL-dev |
| 19:34.04 | blast007 | aptitude search sdl | less |
| 19:34.05 | blast007 | ;) |
| 19:34.11 | brlcad | edit that file and look for an AC_INIT line and any line that has VERSION on it |
| 19:34.18 | blast007 | or even better, aptitude search sdl | grep dev |
| 19:34.22 | brlcad | (e.g. BZFLAG_VERSION) |
| 19:34.48 | thefirstdude | BZFLAG_VERSION="$MAJOR_VERSION.$MINOR_VERSION.$REV" |
| 19:35.13 | thefirstdude | I added another line under it BZFLAG_VERSION="2.0.8" |
| 19:35.34 | brlcad | what does AC_INIT look like? |
| 19:36.12 | thefirstdude | just alone and by itself on a line |
| 19:36.25 | brlcad | heh |
| 19:36.29 | thefirstdude | http://paste.ubuntu.com/365368/ |
| 19:37.04 | brlcad | ahhh, old old school |
| 19:37.14 | brlcad | that's not compatible with the autotools you just installed |
| 19:37.31 | thefirstdude | should I get the configure script from 2.0.12? |
| 19:37.38 | brlcad | might work with the new version string |
| 19:37.42 | brlcad | no, that won't work |
| 19:37.54 | brlcad | it's intimitely tied into the sources they go with |
| 19:38.07 | brlcad | you can't pick and choose files like that |
| 19:38.14 | brlcad | autogen.sh is a special independent case |
| 19:39.39 | brlcad | you know, you'll probably have better luck getting a fresh copy of 2.0.8, comparing your modified to the fresh one to get a diff file, then applying the diff file to the latest 2.0.12 sources |
| 19:40.29 | brlcad | fewer headaches, actually usable client/server .. the .8 apps are nfg |
| 19:40.46 | thefirstdude | nfg? |
| 19:41.04 | blast007 | or even better, 2.0.13 |
| 19:41.11 | thefirstdude | we have 2.0.13? |
| 19:41.13 | blast007 | since that blocks the /me spam ;) |
| 19:41.19 | blast007 | thefirstdude: v2_0branch SVN |
| 19:41.30 | blast007 | ~bzsvn |
| 19:41.31 | ibot | somebody said bzsvn was http://my.bzflag.org/w/BZFlag_SVN and svn co https://bzflag.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/bzflag/trunk/bzflag bzflag |
| 19:41.40 | thefirstdude | is there a change log? |
| 19:42.22 | blast007 | http://bzflag.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/bzflag/branches/v2_0branch/bzflag/ChangeLog |
| 19:42.28 | blast007 | but that doesn't include every change |
| 19:42.52 | thefirstdude | lol, bzflag 2.0.13 only has 2 changes |
| 19:42.56 | blast007 | ..... |
| 19:43.01 | thefirstdude | fonts and source cleanup |
| 19:43.02 | blast007 | "but that doesn't include every change" |
| 19:43.34 | thefirstdude | ok |
| 19:43.37 | blast007 | one other change was blocking an "exploit" with the /me command |
| 19:43.52 | blast007 | so if you're intending to run a public server, I would recommend you use that version |
| 19:44.38 | thefirstdude | does bzflag support AMD64? |
| 19:46.30 | blast007 | yeah, should work just fine |
| 19:47.10 | thefirstdude | where do I set flags...and what to set to |
| 19:47.20 | blast007 | flags? |
| 19:47.27 | thefirstdude | compiler flags |
| 19:47.31 | thefirstdude | for 64 bit |
| 19:47.32 | blast007 | for what? |
| 19:47.57 | thefirstdude | or do I run make --xx64 |
| 19:47.59 | thefirstdude | or something |
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| 19:59.17 | thefirstdude | how to say make install in current directory? |
| 20:01.46 | brlcad | mm. too much hand-holding, you have to figure some bits out by yourself (at least try a little harder before asking), good luck! |
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| 20:51.22 | thefirstdude | how to tell it to make only bzfs, or only bzflag |
| 20:51.45 | JefferyM | I think you've kinda burned people out with all your questions man |
| 20:51.59 | JefferyM | the readme should mention that |
| 20:54.19 | thefirstdude | read it already... |
| 20:54.43 | thefirstdude | make bzfs doesn't work..no target |
| 20:54.46 | brlcad | run ./configure --help |
| 20:55.00 | brlcad | read the Optional Features |
| 20:55.16 | JefferyM | is gonna guess homeschool again. |
| 20:58.43 | TheRedBaron | ~lart JefferyM |
| 20:58.43 | ibot | beats JefferyM severely about the head and shoulders with a rubber chicken |
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| 20:59.09 | JefferyM | not sayin they are all like that, but many seem to be |
| 20:59.20 | brlcad | TheRedBaron: are your knees sore yet? back ache? |
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| 20:59.45 | TheRedBaron | JefferyM: I was merely in need of an excuse to lart you |
| 20:59.55 | JefferyM | why do you need an excuse? |
| 21:00.21 | brlcad | ~lart TheRedBaron for thinking he needs an excuse |
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| 21:00.51 | TheRedBaron | brlcad: not yet, but according to Gn00bie I'm easily scammable seeing as i was born yesterday |
| 21:01.03 | brlcad | heh |
| 21:01.14 | TheRedBaron | JefferyM: usually helps with the justification ;) |
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| 22:37.35 | thefirstdude | does the client keep track of flags, or can the server switch them whenever it want when they are dropped? |
| 22:37.42 | thefirstdude | I want to be able to change flags |
| 22:38.27 | blast007 | server should control it |
| 22:38.50 | thefirstdude | does it though? |
| 22:39.03 | blast007 | it can send flag updates |
| 22:39.21 | blast007 | when there isn't any ID flag, for example, it initially says that every flag is PZ |
| 22:41.43 | blast007 | check the protocol though |
| 22:42.14 | blast007 | see what the client and server send for flag info/grabs |
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| 23:07.02 | JefferyM | thefirstdude, you want to do what? swap out a flag on a tank wiht out doing a drop and a pickup? |
| 23:09.35 | thefirstdude | no, just be able to change flags after they are dropped |
| 23:09.58 | JefferyM | ahh |
| 23:10.00 | JefferyM | that's harder |
| 23:10.03 | JefferyM | in 2.0.x |
| 23:10.10 | JefferyM | it's possible in 3 |
| 23:10.21 | JefferyM | since there is a grab event |
| 23:10.27 | JefferyM | and grabs are handled by the server |
| 23:10.41 | JefferyM | in 2.0.x grabs are handled by the client |
| 23:11.04 | JefferyM | and I don't think there are all the hooks one would need in the API to change a flag |
| 23:14.16 | thefirstdude | just chage the flag type.... |
| 23:14.36 | thefirstdude | the client doesn't "remember" what flags are...right |
| 23:14.46 | JefferyM | yeah it does if they have identify |
| 23:15.18 | JefferyM | we made changes in 3.0 to support that exact feature, letting the server set the flag type as it wans |
| 23:15.28 | JefferyM | 2.0 does not fully do it in a way that will work in every case |
| 23:15.47 | thefirstdude | unless you don't have identify flags...right |
| 23:15.53 | thefirstdude | so it might work |
| 23:16.08 | JefferyM | there is no feature on the 2.0.x server to set the flag type |
| 23:16.29 | thefirstdude | yeh, I would add some code |
| 23:16.37 | JefferyM | perhaps |
| 23:16.48 | JefferyM | but it may get out of synch with some clients |
| 23:16.50 | JefferyM | and be odd |
| 23:16.59 | JefferyM | you'd be on your own if you went down that route |
| 23:17.10 | JefferyM | and you'd have to use a moded server every time |
| 23:18.50 | blast007 | JefferyM: the protocol should support it though |
| 23:18.57 | JefferyM | maybe |
| 23:18.58 | blast007 | since we already do that |
| 23:19.10 | JefferyM | the picku could be sent to send the right messag |
| 23:19.10 | blast007 | if there is no ID flag, we send all flags as PZ |
| 23:19.15 | blast007 | until they grab ID |
| 23:19.15 | JefferyM | yeah |
| 23:19.18 | blast007 | then we send the types |
| 23:19.38 | JefferyM | you'd have to make sure that you'd NEVER used ID |
| 23:20.10 | thefirstdude | that isn't too hard |
| 23:20.34 | blast007 | thefirstdude: what is your goal? |
| 23:21.14 | blast007 | plugins can *move* flags, so you could swap a handful of them around instead of changing the type |
| 23:21.32 | thefirstdude | king of the castle, if no one is in the castle then there is just US, when a team takes the castle they get gm and certain flags |
| 23:21.33 | JefferyM | true, have a hidden room for flag storage :) |
| 23:21.34 | blast007 | then just have some inaccessible area to shove the other ones |
| 23:21.59 | thefirstdude | oh...why didn't I think of that... |
| 23:22.34 | blast007 | oh yeah, and that's one other thing that is in 2.0.13 - the ability to move team flags too ;) |
| 23:22.37 | JefferyM | you should take a look at the progresive flag plugin |
| 23:22.48 | JefferyM | it gives people flags based on how they are doing |
| 23:22.50 | blast007 | (not that you're wanting to do that) |
| 23:22.58 | JefferyM | sounds somewhat similar to what you want to do |
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