| 00:00.37 | atrixnet | eh, didn't work either |
| 00:01.04 | atrixnet | gonna ssh back to house, edit THAT client config file, and try again from there |
| 00:02.40 | blast007 | is this on a specific server, or any server? |
| 00:02.54 | atrixnet | atrixnet.com |
| 00:03.05 | atrixnet | i will try a different server... |
| 00:03.45 | atrixnet | :( |
| 00:03.53 | atrixnet | logged into bzexcess and no problems |
| 00:03.56 | blast007 | heh |
| 00:03.56 | atrixnet | so... I suck |
| 00:04.12 | blast007 | let me try your server quick |
| 00:04.41 | blast007 | worked for me on your server |
| 00:04.58 | atrixnet | HEY! |
| 00:05.00 | blast007 | you're getting auth |
| 00:05.02 | atrixnet | W00T! |
| 00:05.10 | atrixnet | it just worked from "home" |
| 00:05.21 | atrixnet | third timez the charm I guess |
| 00:05.34 | atrixnet | I won't worry about here at work because I don't care about it when I'm at work |
| 00:05.46 | atrixnet | frankly I am supposed to be working on our new EMC SAN right now |
| 00:06.25 | atrixnet | so back to the grind... I just wanted to confirm that central auth was working because i've been adding folks to groups and using bzexcess admin groups ... I didn't want it to "not work" and get everyone all ticked at me |
| 00:07.00 | atrixnet | slaps forehead -- hard -- several times -- bangs it on desk -- keyboard caps flying |
| 00:07.06 | JefferyM | if central auth wasn't working the forums would not work |
| 00:07.09 | JefferyM | same machine |
| 00:07.38 | atrixnet | well, I meant "central auth not working on my server due to misconfiguration on my part" |
| 00:07.43 | atrixnet | should have been more clear |
| 00:08.03 | JefferyM | auth is automatic for any server that lists publicly |
| 00:08.16 | JefferyM | so there isn't anything you can really do to configure it :) |
| 00:08.19 | atrixnet | summary => YAY now cheaters won't be such a plauge anymore! |
| 00:08.56 | atrixnet | (meant misconfiguration of my own server, specifically its config files) |
| 00:09.04 | JefferyM | I know |
| 00:09.07 | JefferyM | and still |
| 00:09.15 | atrixnet | okays |
| 00:09.19 | JefferyM | there are no settings in the config for global auth |
| 00:09.29 | JefferyM | if you list, you get auth |
| 00:09.51 | JefferyM | it's not like you could "turn it off" or anything |
| 00:10.20 | atrixnet | gocha |
| 00:11.53 | blast007 | atrixnet: also, you should set some lag/jitter/packet loss limits on your server |
| 00:12.19 | atrixnet | all these suggestions are truly awesome |
| 00:12.23 | blast007 | for MW2, I use -lagwarn 300 -lagdrop 3 -jitterwarn 15 -jitterdrop 3 -packetlosswarn 2 -packetlossdrop 3 |
| 00:12.26 | atrixnet | that's to avoid lag cheat right? |
| 00:12.36 | blast007 | well, not just for that |
| 00:12.49 | blast007 | also to get rid of people trying to play over satalite internet ;) |
| 00:12.53 | blast007 | or cell phones |
| 00:12.58 | blast007 | or just on bad connections |
| 00:13.20 | atrixnet | so I could add that to my startup commandline? |
| 00:13.24 | blast007 | yeah |
| 00:13.26 | atrixnet | (which is in /etc/rc.local |
| 00:13.30 | atrixnet | ok doing immediately... |
| 00:13.32 | blast007 | also, your reports weren't saving |
| 00:13.46 | atrixnet | they should be saving *now* I fixed it last night |
| 00:13.53 | blast007 | ah, ok |
| 00:13.53 | atrixnet | plus my reportpipe emails me |
| 00:13.56 | blast007 | k |
| 00:14.06 | atrixnet | i'll make sure reportfile is working in a moment |
| 00:14.18 | atrixnet | i was going to ask if anyone wanted to be CC'd on those email reports |
| 00:14.31 | atrixnet | pretty sure nobody, but wanted to extend the offer newaz |
| 00:14.38 | blast007 | unlikely |
| 00:14.56 | blast007 | I already have reports from my two servers emailing to me |
| 00:14.59 | blast007 | :) |
| 00:15.10 | atrixnet | just added it to the cmdline |
| 00:15.16 | atrixnet | startup cmdline |
| 00:15.24 | atrixnet | next server restart it will take effect |
| 00:15.25 | blast007 | and overall they're bogus ones where people accidentally get into the 'send a report' mode |
| 00:15.29 | atrixnet | gonna test reportfile |
| 00:15.41 | blast007 | so I get lots of I's and the numbers 1, 2, and 3 |
| 00:15.41 | atrixnet | haha i see |
| 00:17.11 | atrixnet | snap umm |
| 00:17.12 | atrixnet | ok great |
| 00:17.19 | atrixnet | reports file apparently workz |
| 00:17.38 | atrixnet | shivverrrz with the awesomeness that is bzflag |
| 00:18.18 | JefferyM | seriously? |
| 00:18.48 | atrixnet | tooooootally |
| 00:19.00 | atrixnet | some dufus logged in as "drag me to hell" |
| 00:19.26 | atrixnet | <PROTECTED> |
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| 00:28.10 | atrixnet | thank you everyone! |
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| 01:29.56 | Constitution | somehow mr atrixnet reminds me of the pythonian saga... hope we're not going through that again ;) |
| 01:31.54 | Zw3rgy|MrSupp0rt | kicks everyone's ass in BzFlag ... worst game ever seen ... poor&childish admins ... nothing more to say ... i am out cya |
| 01:32.32 | Zw3rgy|MrSupp0rt | doensn't want no more chance ty |
| 01:34.13 | Constitution | phones CNN to alert them to these new insights |
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| 04:47.10 | churcd | hi all |
| 04:47.32 | temporalD | howdee |
| 04:47.59 | churcd | I played bzflag for the first time in a while today, and enjoyed it quite a bit, (played it a ton when I was younger), and figured maybe I should contribute some bug fixes now that I'm a little better at programming |
| 04:48.29 | temporalD | very nice |
| 04:48.30 | churcd | I noticed on the forums that the latest release is supposedly the last release of the 2.0.x series. So, what branch should I work in? |
| 04:48.36 | temporalD | trunk |
| 04:48.45 | JeffM2501 | 2.0.x is the old maintenance line |
| 04:49.06 | JeffM2501 | dev is ongoing in the 2.99.x version to be released as 3.0 |
| 04:49.19 | JeffM2501 | and as temporalD that is trunk |
| 04:49.42 | churcd | And I'm thinking of tackling this: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=2834683&group_id=3248&atid=103248 |
| 04:49.55 | JeffM2501 | k |
| 04:49.56 | churcd | Still a problem in 2.99.x/worth fixing? |
| 04:50.10 | JeffM2501 | it's an enhancement not a bug |
| 04:50.23 | JeffM2501 | there are more critical things to fix in 3 |
| 04:50.30 | JeffM2501 | but if that's what you want to do, go for it |
| 04:51.06 | churcd | It was under bugs (although I see your point). I figured that would just be an easy one to get to know the codebase with before I went after anything bigger |
| 04:52.00 | churcd | Just about everything on the tracker including that is priority 5, so I just kind of chose that after glancing at a few |
| 04:52.03 | temporalD | sounds like a good idea to me :) |
| 04:52.17 | JeffM2501 | the tracker is not th only place we store bugs |
| 04:52.22 | JeffM2501 | there is a bugs file in the source tree |
| 04:52.28 | JeffM2501 | and a V3 release checklist on the wiki |
| 04:52.35 | churcd | ok. I'll take a look at that once this checkout finishes |
| 04:52.36 | churcd | and that |
| 05:02.42 | churcd | I get the feeling I've made a very noobish mistake already by running the svn command straight of sourceforge instead of selecting a specific branch or something |
| 05:02.58 | JeffM2501 | you did the root? |
| 05:03.18 | churcd | Yah. I shouldn't've done that, right? |
| 05:03.32 | JeffM2501 | you can do that, it's just a LOT of data |
| 05:03.38 | JeffM2501 | most that you don't need |
| 05:03.51 | JeffM2501 | http://my.bzflag.org/w/SVN |
| 05:03.52 | churcd | Yah. I'm pulling a lot of summer of code branches and such |
| 05:03.59 | JeffM2501 | that's our info on svn |
| 05:04.07 | JeffM2501 | root gets you EVERYTHING |
| 05:04.15 | JeffM2501 | all tags all branches |
| 05:04.46 | JeffM2501 | you probably just want trunk and then just bzflag |
| 05:04.51 | churcd | Yah. Thank you for that |
| 05:04.59 | JeffM2501 | not all the other services or projects |
| 05:09.43 | JeffM2501 | goes back to pondering game,list,auth interactions |
| 05:12.03 | JeffM2501 | hmmm.... instancing... |
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| 06:10.39 | churcd | I'm trying to build bzflag in VS2K8, and am getting "Error54error LNK2005: _glewExperimental already defined in glew32mxsd.lib(glew.obj)ogl.libbzflag" (and a similar error for various _glew*s. I can't even find where ogl.lib or glew32mxsd.lib is imported from. Any ideas? |
| 06:11.00 | JeffM2501 | they are part of the dependencies |
| 06:11.16 | JeffM2501 | what sln file did you run and what target did you pick? |
| 06:12.06 | churcd | I opened bzflag.sln. Should I just have gone with bzflag.vcproj? |
| 06:12.10 | JeffM2501 | no |
| 06:12.18 | JeffM2501 | what target did you use? |
| 06:12.24 | churcd | Debug MX |
| 06:12.34 | JeffM2501 | use debug |
| 06:12.35 | JeffM2501 | not mx |
| 06:12.42 | JeffM2501 | mx needs to be removed |
| 06:12.56 | churcd | ok |
| 06:13.03 | churcd | Is it a legacy thing? |
| 06:13.06 | JeffM2501 | no |
| 06:13.13 | JeffM2501 | glew has a mx target |
| 06:13.25 | JeffM2501 | and since we build glew, it gets thrown into the list |
| 06:13.38 | churcd | ah ok |
| 06:13.58 | JeffM2501 | it uses an old project I upgraded, and I never removed that target |
| 06:14.07 | JeffM2501 | it's not like you can really find a CPU with OUT MMX these days |
| 06:14.47 | churcd | yah, true |
| 06:14.54 | churcd | Thank you, it's building properly now |
| 06:15.29 | churcd | Are you familiar with the GUIOptionsMenu class? I have kind of a nitpicky question |
| 06:15.41 | JeffM2501 | somewhat |
| 06:15.46 | JeffM2501 | as in I've used it before |
| 06:16.23 | churcd | I'm just curious as to why the callback is passed a one character string instead of an enumeration for options |
| 06:16.38 | JeffM2501 | just the way it was writen long ago |
| 06:16.53 | churcd | k |
| 06:17.17 | JeffM2501 | I have the same issue with network messages |
| 06:17.28 | JeffM2501 | the origonal author didn't trust compilers much I fear |
| 06:18.22 | churcd | When he started writing BZFlag, I doubt C++ compilers were exactly trustworthy in general |
| 06:18.42 | JeffM2501 | they were, he just wasn't used to them |
| 06:19.26 | JeffM2501 | but such is the past |
| 06:23.25 | JeffM2501 | yep, debug build works just fine |
| 06:26.42 | CIA-88 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r20878 10/trunk/bzflag/ (3 files in 2 dirs): remove MX targets from glew |
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| 08:08.32 | churcd | And I have gotten this feature working |
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| 08:25.51 | churcd | https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=2959493&group_id=3248&atid=303248 |
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| 15:29.09 | churcd | Does anyone know why there's a noticeable delay when switching the panel between opaque and translucent? |
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| 16:11.37 | joevano | churcd: i do't really notice a delay... maybe video driver issues on your system |
| 16:11.53 | joevano | don't* |
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| 16:41.33 | churcd | I've got the lates nvidia drivers on my Windows 7 system so I'm not sure |
| 16:41.49 | churcd | It calls several callbacks on resize so I think maybe I'll time them and figure out what's going on |
| 16:42.11 | JefferyM | your stuff is having problems? |
| 16:43.13 | churcd | I'll have to test again, but I don't think its my patches having the problems |
| 16:43.27 | JefferyM | what is it doing? |
| 16:43.28 | churcd | There's maybe a 0.5 second delay when teh panel switches from translucent to opaque |
| 16:43.36 | churcd | not a dealbreaker but it's annoying |
| 16:43.55 | JefferyM | if you flush the cache it could cause fonts to reload |
| 16:44.02 | JefferyM | and that can take a while |
| 16:45.16 | churcd | Is there a nightly build or anything I can download so I don't have to recompile to test this? |
| 16:45.20 | JefferyM | nope |
| 16:46.43 | JefferyM | show me your patch |
| 16:48.04 | JefferyM | blast007 2.99.x uses a different config then 2.0.xx so even if that guy did do a trunk install it should not have added a -directory option to his old config. |
| 16:48.40 | churcd | http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=2959493&group_id=3248&atid=303248 |
| 16:49.24 | churcd | ok, it's an issue with the trunk, not with my patch (I just reverted and tested) |
| 16:49.33 | churcd | not an issue with 2.0.x, just with 2.99.x |
| 16:49.37 | blast007 | JefferyM: no, the client detects the files iirc |
| 16:49.40 | JefferyM | probably fonts then |
| 16:49.47 | JefferyM | blast on a mac? |
| 16:49.51 | blast007 | someone had a 2.0.x client that was mixing the 2.0.x and 2.99.x mountains |
| 16:49.51 | blast007 | yes |
| 16:49.53 | JefferyM | it should check the .app first |
| 16:49.57 | JefferyM | oh that's STUPID |
| 16:50.59 | JefferyM | churcd, why do we need the old panelopacity field still? |
| 16:51.12 | JefferyM | why not just have one for panel and one for radar and that's it? |
| 16:51.21 | churcd | You mean in the config file? |
| 16:51.31 | JefferyM | yeah in bzdb? |
| 16:51.55 | churcd | So when you switch from 2.0.x to 2.99.x and only have panelopacity in their, it'll seamlessly upgrade the settings |
| 16:51.58 | JefferyM | why not just add a single new field, init it on upgrade from the old field and make the old one just drive the chat box? |
| 16:52.08 | JefferyM | the config NEVER goes backwads |
| 16:52.11 | JefferyM | backwards |
| 16:52.20 | JefferyM | we made a copy of the 2.0.x config for 3 |
| 16:52.43 | JefferyM | so that is not a case that we want to happne ( v2 using a V3 config) |
| 16:52.54 | churcd | no, I meant for V3 launching on a v2 config |
| 16:53.11 | churcd | If they had a panelopacity set in V2, you'd want that to import as their radaropacity and panelopacity in V3 |
| 16:53.16 | JefferyM | there is an upgrade step, you can detect it's an old config, and init the radar field |
| 16:53.24 | churcd | ok, I didn't notice that |
| 16:53.28 | JefferyM | yeah I agree with that, but you don't need 3 fields |
| 16:53.31 | JefferyM | you can do it with 2 |
| 16:53.35 | churcd | Yah, that makes sense now |
| 16:53.48 | JefferyM | otherwise that old field just hangs out there |
| 16:53.50 | churcd | and I guess, I can init both radar and panel from panelopacity |
| 16:53.55 | JefferyM | yes |
| 16:54.00 | churcd | and then init radaropacity after it |
| 16:54.04 | churcd | which will overwrite if there is a radaropacity |
| 16:54.06 | JefferyM | then you don't need the "only" fields |
| 16:54.16 | churcd | good call. I'll fix the patch later and update it |
| 16:54.28 | JefferyM | just add one called radar opacity, on upgrade init it from panel,a nd you are done |
| 16:54.39 | JefferyM | you'll have to bump the config version |
| 16:54.41 | JefferyM | but that's not bad |
| 16:55.15 | churcd | will do. I have to get going though (snow storm coming in and I need to drive), so I'll fix it tonight or tomorrow |
| 16:55.22 | JefferyM | have fun |
| 16:55.54 | churcd | Thanks. You too |
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| 17:32.22 | churcd | I think I've got this fixed. And I realized I missed one file in my last patch |
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| 18:39.08 | blast007 | brlcad: how often does the my.bzflag.org stats update - is it still every 5 minutes? |
| 19:04.48 | brlcad | probably :) |
| 19:05.02 | brlcad | looks |
| 19:05.47 | brlcad | yeah, every 5.45 minutes |
| 19:06.51 | blast007 | k |
| 19:07.25 | brlcad | just reset mysql |
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