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| 04:48.04 | ibot | i heard bzfls is the BZFlag List Server |
| 04:48.07 | JeffM2501 | bahh |
| 04:48.13 | JeffM2501 | what's the query? |
| 04:48.33 | temporalD | ~bzlist |
| 04:48.42 | JeffM2501 | thanks |
| 04:51.18 | JeffM2501 | wow, over 2 to 1 |
| 04:51.43 | JeffM2501 | and it looks like all ya need is 5-10 |
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| 18:57.37 | JefferyM | heh, someone tried to register opencombat as a project on sourceforge |
| 18:57.41 | JefferyM | sory googlecode |
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| 19:21.02 | JefferyM | now I'm going to have to use the domain and the project :/ |
| 19:23.45 | jorgenpt | JefferyM: "tried"? What prevented them? |
| 19:24.13 | JefferyM | well google code is cool in the fact that they saw I was the owner of the SF project called Opencombat |
| 19:24.26 | JefferyM | so they sent me an email asking me if I wanted to allow the other person to use the name |
| 19:25.15 | JefferyM | so then I went and registered the project and am putting code into it now :) |
| 19:25.35 | jorgenpt | Hah, that's cool |
| 19:25.36 | jorgenpt | Automated? |
| 19:25.45 | JefferyM | yeah |
| 19:25.58 | JefferyM | when I registered it, it sent me another email to my sf account |
| 19:26.11 | JefferyM | I approved myself and then got it |
| 19:26.14 | jorgenpt | Nice |
| 19:26.56 | JefferyM | eah |
| 19:26.58 | JefferyM | yeah |
| 19:27.11 | JefferyM | I did send the guy who requested it an email telling him why I couldn't let him have it |
| 19:27.13 | JefferyM | to be nice |
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| 21:04.28 | aVc | hello |
| 21:04.34 | JefferyM | hello |
| 21:04.44 | aVc | hi jeffm |
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| 21:05.09 | aVc | i want someone to play in v3 servers |
| 21:05.38 | aVc | hey, there's really no more servers on master list in old bz? |
| 21:05.50 | aVc | 2.0.x - |
| 21:06.00 | brad | theres hundreds.. |
| 21:06.00 | JefferyM | 2.0.x is the current release |
| 21:06.01 | aVc | only 2.0.x+? |
| 21:06.08 | JefferyM | there are about 300 servers |
| 21:06.08 | brad | oh |
| 21:06.16 | aVc | conncted |
| 21:06.19 | JefferyM | they all work with 2.0.x |
| 21:06.28 | JefferyM | the old version would be 1.10 |
| 21:06.30 | aVc | and the old 1.x |
| 21:06.35 | aVc | .. |
| 21:06.39 | JefferyM | and yes that is dead |
| 21:06.41 | JefferyM | long dead |
| 21:06.41 | aVc | there's no servers |
| 21:06.46 | JefferyM | yep |
| 21:06.48 | aVc | 1.7 &1.10 |
| 21:06.55 | JefferyM | nobody wants to run them |
| 21:06.59 | aVc | oh |
| 21:07.05 | aVc | and v3? |
| 21:07.10 | JefferyM | it has a few |
| 21:07.13 | JefferyM | for testing |
| 21:07.14 | aVc | why no one connects? |
| 21:07.18 | aVc | dang |
| 21:07.26 | JefferyM | to what? |
| 21:07.33 | aVc | to play... |
| 21:07.40 | aVc | a different way |
| 21:07.43 | aVc | :P |
| 21:07.50 | JefferyM | well nobody plays old versions because they are old |
| 21:08.00 | JefferyM | few play the new version because it is just for testing |
| 21:08.04 | aVc | and trunk test? |
| 21:08.06 | JefferyM | so everyone plays the current version |
| 21:08.08 | aVc | lol |
| 21:08.17 | JefferyM | you don't make much sense |
| 21:09.15 | aVc | umm, if many testers were playing it will help to v3 devs to work more deeper |
| 21:09.26 | aVc | bug test |
| 21:09.27 | aVc | lol |
| 21:09.29 | aVc | :P |
| 21:09.30 | JefferyM | probably not |
| 21:09.31 | aVc | .-..... |
| 21:09.34 | aVc | why? |
| 21:09.38 | aVc | -.- |
| 21:09.42 | aVc | ¬¬ |
| 21:09.42 | JefferyM | the problem is not lack of testers |
| 21:09.47 | aVc | so? |
| 21:09.57 | JefferyM | ok, you can stop with the stupid symbols now |
| 21:10.06 | aVc | what's ploblem then? |
| 21:10.15 | JefferyM | lack of development effort |
| 21:10.38 | aVc | how many devs there? |
| 21:10.56 | JefferyM | hard to say |
| 21:11.00 | aVc | .... |
| 21:11.34 | JefferyM | there are probbly 5-8 "core" ones, then about 10-15 others that work less time |
| 21:11.48 | aVc | oh, i just discovered that the new bz is much lagger than the 2.0.x |
| 21:12.04 | aVc | blast is in the 10-15 other |
| 21:12.07 | aVc | lol |
| 21:12.18 | JefferyM | no, he's a core pretty much |
| 21:12.22 | aVc | lol |
| 21:12.24 | aVc | :P |
| 21:12.32 | JefferyM | how old are you? 10? |
| 21:12.38 | aVc | 16 |
| 21:12.44 | JefferyM | you sure don't act like it |
| 21:12.57 | JefferyM | 3.0 dosn't report lag the same way |
| 21:13.00 | aVc | 15* goin to 16 birth 26 march |
| 21:13.17 | JefferyM | and it' has some bugs in it's lag compensation and movement code so it makes it seem more jerky |
| 21:13.25 | JefferyM | but the actual network lag is the same as 2.0.x |
| 21:13.29 | JefferyM | so you are 15 |
| 21:13.32 | JefferyM | not 16 ;) |
| 21:13.37 | aVc | yeh |
| 21:13.44 | aVc | and the time is messed up |
| 21:13.49 | JefferyM | it woudl be nice if you put a bit of a hold on all the lol's |
| 21:13.59 | JefferyM | lots of things are messed up |
| 21:14.04 | JefferyM | it is development code |
| 21:14.05 | aVc | i can't change time even when off with game |
| 21:14.11 | aVc | yes |
| 21:14.19 | aVc | i talked with blast |
| 21:14.24 | JefferyM | synctime is always in effect |
| 21:14.26 | JefferyM | in v3 |
| 21:14.30 | aVc | ah |
| 21:14.45 | aVc | but the sun is always in same place |
| 21:14.48 | blast007 | guess the _syncTime could be removed then |
| 21:14.52 | aVc | yse |
| 21:15.00 | JefferyM | it wasn't? |
| 21:15.14 | jh` | hi jeffm |
| 21:15.15 | aVc | ? |
| 21:15.16 | jh` | long time |
| 21:15.25 | JefferyM | hello |
| 21:15.38 | aVc | jeff, the sun is always in same pos |
| 21:15.49 | JefferyM | ok |
| 21:15.51 | aVc | even if i use the time changer keys |
| 21:16.03 | JefferyM | ok |
| 21:16.07 | aVc | just liked it |
| 21:16.10 | jh` | so what |
| 21:16.27 | aVc | the 2.99.x in general |
| 21:17.29 | aVc | jeff, why don't share the prots? blast says no way.... and u jeff? |
| 21:18.18 | aVc | i haven't see any other bugs but some crashes when refreshing server |
| 21:18.32 | aVc | two crash 'til now |
| 21:18.36 | JefferyM | huh? |
| 21:18.40 | JefferyM | prots? |
| 21:18.42 | blast007 | here we go again ... |
| 21:18.44 | blast007 | protocol |
| 21:18.53 | aVc | :P |
| 21:18.54 | blast007 | he wants to be able to run a 2.99.x client on 2.0.x servers |
| 21:18.55 | JefferyM | share it with what? |
| 21:19.01 | JefferyM | oh, that's simple |
| 21:19.11 | JefferyM | then we could not fix many of the bugs |
| 21:19.22 | JefferyM | we have to send differen data to fix many of the problems |
| 21:19.29 | JefferyM | and old clients won't know about that data |
| 21:19.46 | aVc | yes multi, we'ill see both 2.0.x and new servers |
| 21:19.47 | JefferyM | and we don't want to maintain a dual system that would have different peoiple have different abbilities. |
| 21:19.58 | JefferyM | we don't want to do that |
| 21:20.02 | aVc | :( |
| 21:20.10 | JefferyM | it makes it harder to maintain |
| 21:20.19 | JefferyM | and is only viable for a short while untill everyone upgrades |
| 21:20.23 | JefferyM | we'd rather just make them upgrade |
| 21:20.25 | aVc | but in teory is possible.... |
| 21:20.27 | JefferyM | better experience for everyone |
| 21:20.31 | JefferyM | sure anything is possible |
| 21:21.06 | aVc | where do i get a patcher? & a compiler? |
| 21:21.10 | blast007 | possible, yes. probable, no. |
| 21:21.12 | aVc | i want links |
| 21:21.14 | JefferyM | a patcher? |
| 21:21.17 | aVc | yes |
| 21:21.18 | JefferyM | what is that? |
| 21:21.29 | aVc | i just got a .patch file |
| 21:21.30 | JefferyM | how much C++ do you know? |
| 21:21.31 | blast007 | he wants to apply patches |
| 21:22.10 | aVc | nothing :S but at least i know what c++ basically is |
| 21:22.23 | JefferyM | depends on what your OS and compiler is |
| 21:22.31 | aVc | ah, w32 |
| 21:22.32 | blast007 | he doesn't have a compiler |
| 21:22.41 | aVc | xp pro |
| 21:22.43 | JefferyM | solve that problem first |
| 21:22.51 | JefferyM | tort svn has a patch tool |
| 21:23.00 | JefferyM | but it's all pointless unless you can build |
| 21:23.05 | aVc | tort? |
| 21:23.06 | JefferyM | what does the patch do? |
| 21:23.10 | blast007 | the tort one didn't work for me |
| 21:23.14 | blast007 | had to use the command line patch tool |
| 21:23.25 | JefferyM | it can fail on some yes |
| 21:23.31 | JefferyM | usualy works for me with universals |
| 21:24.16 | blast007 | aVc: what does the patch do? |
| 21:24.47 | aVc | SeperateRadarOpacity.patch, search this at sourceforge bz page |
| 21:25.03 | JefferyM | heh |
| 21:25.05 | aVc | console /radar opacity |
| 21:25.24 | aVc | independent |
| 21:25.32 | JefferyM | I know of it |
| 21:25.33 | aVc | that's does |
| 21:25.35 | aVc | lol |
| 21:25.37 | JefferyM | I reviewed it |
| 21:25.40 | aVc | :P |
| 21:25.44 | JefferyM | author had to make some changes |
| 21:25.51 | aVc | then i need links |
| 21:25.52 | JefferyM | well there are threads on the fourms on how to build |
| 21:25.54 | JefferyM | read those |
| 21:26.06 | JefferyM | it'll tell you what you need to know |
| 21:26.19 | aVc | i just got source of the 2.0.14 bz |
| 21:26.31 | blast007 | the patch is for 2.99.x |
| 21:26.32 | JefferyM | good for you |
| 21:26.35 | JefferyM | indeed |
| 21:26.41 | blast007 | it won't apply to 2.0.14 |
| 21:26.47 | JefferyM | double indeed |
| 21:27.11 | aVc | a w32 compiler and anything that can patch the bz |
| 21:27.20 | aVc | with patch files |
| 21:27.32 | JefferyM | READ |
| 21:28.07 | Tupone | before applying any patch you better being able to build the unpatched one |
| 21:28.23 | Tupone | so READ |
| 21:28.26 | aVc | oh, the blast bz just crashed with mult-byte char, i just sended to him ç and crash |
| 21:28.44 | aVc | 2.99.x bz |
| 21:29.07 | JefferyM | aVc, just so you know, you are crusin for your second kick from this channel |
| 21:29.13 | JefferyM | calm down, read the posts |
| 21:29.38 | blast007 | well, first kick - he just almost got kicked before as well ;) |
| 21:29.47 | aVc | ok..... :'( |
| 21:29.59 | aVc | i am zz |
| 21:30.05 | JefferyM | I guessed |
| 21:30.15 | aVc | lol, hmm what forum? |
| 21:30.18 | JefferyM | you are also about to be remove from the fourms for all your postings |
| 21:30.27 | JefferyM | we are not stupid |
| 21:30.28 | aVc | BUAAAAAAAAAA |
| 21:30.30 | aVc | ok |
| 21:30.34 | JefferyM | ok, that's about it then |
| 21:30.35 | aVc | i not |
| 21:30.36 | JefferyM | go read |
| 21:30.41 | JefferyM | learn |
| 21:30.50 | JefferyM | typing silly things here is not going to win you any friends. |
| 21:30.57 | aVc | ok.... :( |
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| 21:36.42 | aVc | i need to learn to bulid and i got bz 2.0.14 source, where to read? |
| 21:37.16 | JefferyM | the forum post that says "how to build on windows" |
| 21:37.26 | JefferyM | use your brain and do some research |
| 21:37.36 | JefferyM | you will have to do work to get what you want |
| 21:37.40 | JefferyM | it will not be simple |
| 21:37.53 | blast007 | especially for 2.0.x ;) |
| 21:38.21 | blast007 | still hasn't gotten a working build of 2.0.x |
| 21:38.36 | blast007 | at least without going back to VC71 |
| 21:38.39 | JefferyM | it not too bad now but there are still deps |
| 21:39.08 | blast007 | got it to build with VC9, but it crashes :) |
| 21:39.18 | JefferyM | fun |
| 21:39.27 | JefferyM | but the shipped one works right? |
| 21:39.32 | blast007 | yeah |
| 21:39.39 | JefferyM | I did that with 9 |
| 21:39.40 | blast007 | I didn't rebuild the binaries |
| 21:39.43 | blast007 | just repackaged your files |
| 21:40.05 | aVc | hmm i don't know anything about any c programming |
| 21:40.30 | blast007 | aVc: what is your goal? |
| 21:40.59 | blast007 | if your goal is to add that patch to 2.0.14, then you will have to know a little C++ |
| 21:41.05 | blast007 | cuz that patch will NOT apply cleanly |
| 21:41.37 | blast007 | you will have to manually apply parts or all of it |
| 21:45.14 | aVc | ok, and how about 2.99.x? |
| 21:45.41 | blast007 | then it's kinda pointless cuz you won't be playing |
| 21:45.42 | blast007 | ;) |
| 21:46.09 | aVc | dang, i visit the 2.99.x every few times |
| 21:46.49 | aVc | and i never seen the cloaked shot |
| 21:47.15 | aVc | i just know the flag but the shot still not cloaked.... |
| 21:47.27 | aVc | .... |
| 21:47.37 | blast007 | the shot should not be visible out the window |
| 21:47.43 | blast007 | at least to other people |
| 21:47.49 | aVc | yes, is visible |
| 21:47.50 | blast007 | can't recall if you can still see your own |
| 21:48.07 | blast007 | aVc: you verified that other people can see your cloaked shot? |
| 21:48.09 | aVc | i never saw it on other tanks yet b/c there's no one |
| 21:48.16 | blast007 | right |
| 21:48.18 | blast007 | so read what I said |
| 21:48.19 | aVc | no verific |
| 21:48.33 | blast007 | "the shot should not be visible out the window" "at least to other people" |
| 21:48.40 | aVc | ok |
| 21:48.41 | aVc | yes |
| 21:48.44 | aVc | right |
| 21:48.57 | aVc | or i won't be a cloaked shot |
| 21:49.14 | aVc | it* |
| 21:50.13 | aVc | yes i think that, on anyone cloaked shot is really a cloaked shot, only if i shot it i still see it |
| 21:50.38 | JefferyM | is english your primary language? |
| 21:51.19 | aVc | nope, from argentina i am ( i put that on my profile) fluent not good as well |
| 21:51.28 | aVc | spanish primary |
| 21:51.32 | JefferyM | k' |
| 21:51.37 | JefferyM | then that explains some things |
| 21:51.41 | aVc | :P |
| 21:52.10 | aVc | and bzadmin 2.99.x dosen't works |
| 21:52.36 | aVc | but 2.0.14 bzadmin crashes when i start typing on a server |
| 21:52.48 | aVc | 5-10 secs and crash |
| 21:52.54 | blast007 | on a 2.0.x server? or a 2.99.x server? |
| 21:52.56 | aVc | any idea? |
| 21:53.09 | aVc | 2.0.x of course |
| 21:53.24 | aVc | bzadmin 2.0.14 2.0.x server |
| 21:53.27 | blast007 | shrugs |
| 21:53.34 | blast007 | as far as I know, it works fine here |
| 21:54.24 | blast007 | yeah, works here |
| 21:54.25 | aVc | i am at correct forum but i can't find the windows compile instructs |
| 21:54.51 | blast007 | use the search |
| 21:54.55 | blast007 | search for compile |
| 21:54.59 | aVc | got it , but is not my ver |
| 21:55.04 | JefferyM | really? cus it's the thid post there |
| 21:55.18 | blast007 | third* ;) |
| 21:55.25 | JefferyM | that too |
| 21:55.27 | aVc | 2.0.11 win xp |
| 21:55.31 | JefferyM | hates this hand brace |
| 21:55.40 | JefferyM | 11 how'd you get 11? |
| 21:55.40 | aVc | and i need 2.0.14 |
| 21:55.42 | blast007 | JefferyM: oh sounds like fun |
| 21:55.46 | JefferyM | yeah |
| 21:55.54 | JefferyM | aVc, it's the same bassic idea |
| 21:56.03 | JefferyM | we don't change the build system from minor to minor version |
| 21:56.07 | aVc | http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=12650 |
| 21:56.11 | JefferyM | as I said,you are going to have to THINK |
| 21:56.18 | aVc | okkkk |
| 21:56.28 | JefferyM | that's also not the right post |
| 21:56.46 | aVc | http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=13675 |
| 21:56.47 | JefferyM | you passed the one you want |
| 21:57.21 | blast007 | aVc: yeah, that one |
| 21:57.57 | blast007 | and also - good luck ;) |
| 21:58.13 | aVc | i just get the dxsdk nov 08 is ok? |
| 21:58.19 | blast007 | read |
| 21:58.34 | blast007 | I'm sure it's covered there |
| 21:58.40 | aVc | it says dxsdk april 07 |
| 21:58.49 | blast007 | read the whole thread |
| 21:59.17 | JefferyM | blast007, remember, he dosn't want to read, he just wants it to work |
| 22:00.10 | aVc | lol |
| 22:00.25 | aVc | i just doing it reading |
| 22:00.27 | aVc | :P |
| 22:00.35 | JefferyM | doubtfull |
| 22:00.44 | aVc | what lang should i need to dl? |
| 22:00.55 | aVc | vsc++08 |
| 22:01.05 | JefferyM | you'd know that if you'd read |
| 22:01.05 | blast007 | you would know that if you read |
| 22:01.10 | blast007 | heh |
| 22:01.49 | aVc | it dosen't say any more |
| 22:02.15 | JefferyM | it's in the firggin TITLE Of the thread man |
| 22:02.35 | aVc | the lang ver! |
| 22:02.46 | JefferyM | it's right before the link |
| 22:02.50 | JefferyM | READ |
| 22:03.23 | blast007 | least DXSDK is what he's want, right? |
| 22:03.37 | blast007 | latest* |
| 22:03.41 | aVc | i just got a newer sdk |
| 22:03.49 | aVc | dxsdk |
| 22:03.51 | JefferyM | yeah |
| 22:03.57 | aVc | hey |
| 22:04.07 | aVc | not progamming lang! |
| 22:04.12 | aVc | TOUNGE LANG! |
| 22:04.30 | JefferyM | dosn't matter |
| 22:04.31 | aVc | oh, i have only 15 gb free |
| 22:04.39 | JefferyM | then building isn't for you |
| 22:04.44 | blast007 | are you still downloading the DirectX SDK? |
| 22:04.50 | JefferyM | I'd just wait till someone posts a build man |
| 22:05.25 | aVc | i dowloaded it and installed, full pack, DXSDK nov2008 |
| 22:05.31 | aVc | i use spanish xp |
| 22:05.37 | JefferyM | good for you |
| 22:05.37 | blast007 | before you got the compilier...? |
| 22:05.50 | Marzipan | i think the language of your xp doesn't matter at all |
| 22:05.55 | JefferyM | it dosn't |
| 22:05.57 | aVc | dang |
| 22:05.58 | blast007 | and your internet is fast enough that it already download a 500MB file? |
| 22:05.59 | JefferyM | nor of vc |
| 22:06.12 | aVc | not so fast |
| 22:06.24 | aVc | at least i use part dl |
| 22:06.27 | JefferyM | leaves this wonderful thing in blast007's capable hands and goes to find foods :) |
| 22:06.33 | Marzipan | express yourself cleary and think before typing. :) |
| 22:06.35 | blast007 | pfft |
| 22:06.39 | aVc | aw |
| 22:06.49 | blast007 | I've had enough of this, Jeff ;) |
| 22:07.03 | aVc | i use free download manager, i dl at 70-80kbps |
| 22:07.14 | blast007 | aVc: then you couldn't have gotten the SDK |
| 22:07.37 | *** part/#bzflag JefferyM (~JefferyM@bzflag/projectadmin/JeffM) |
| 22:07.52 | aVc | who haves dcc on? |
| 22:07.56 | Marzipan | bangs his head against a wall and screams :D |
| 22:08.04 | blast007 | aVc: what are you trying to DCC? |
| 22:08.10 | aVc | a pic |
| 22:08.14 | blast007 | why? |
| 22:08.21 | blast007 | there are lots of image hosts you can upload it to |
| 22:08.27 | aVc | to prove |
| 22:08.31 | blast007 | ....... |
| 22:08.41 | aVc | that dxsdk is installed here |
| 22:08.52 | Marzipan | liket his one: http://imageshack.us/ |
| 22:08.53 | blast007 | what was the filename of the SDK you downloaded? |
| 22:08.59 | aVc | umm |
| 22:09.59 | aVc | i deleted the installer but the dxsdk is dxsdk_nov_08_instal*.exe |
| 22:10.07 | blast007 | the download should have taken you around an hour and a half |
| 22:10.38 | aVc | hmm yes more than a hour with 20 parts |
| 22:10.51 | aVc | giving all bandwich |
| 22:11.07 | blast007 | so you started this process an hour ago? |
| 22:11.22 | blast007 | sounded like you just started it about 10 minutes ago when you asked which one you needed |
| 22:11.25 | aVc | nope i just installed it a few weeks |
| 22:11.32 | blast007 | why did you install it? |
| 22:11.53 | aVc | b/c i was interested in it |
| 22:12.07 | blast007 | well, have fun |
| 22:12.12 | aVc | and i need to clean or else my zbuffer |
| 22:12.32 | aVc | i can't run some games |
| 22:12.52 | aVc | but some games work with fixed funcionallyty |
| 22:13.03 | aVc | funcionallity |
| 22:13.05 | aVc | * |
| 22:13.17 | aVc | fixed config* |
| 22:13.29 | aVc | ... |
| 22:13.32 | Marzipan | i think this is getting away from bzflag if i don't missunderstand that completly right now. |
| 22:13.51 | aVc | no, i am very insterrrested in bz |
| 22:14.02 | aVc | :P |
| 22:14.07 | aVc | yeh |
| 22:14.18 | aVc | much about devplovers |
| 22:14.25 | aVc | .... |
| 22:15.13 | aVc | ok blast i am downloading spanish vsC++08 express |
| 22:18.40 | aVc | should i install sql server 2008 express? |
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| 22:20.01 | Marzipan | you got a compiler right now, too lazy to read throw all that text :) |
| 22:20.15 | aVc | ? |
| 22:20.58 | Marzipan | you are trying to install a compiler for winxp right now, am i correct ? |
| 22:21.04 | aVc | yes |
| 22:21.22 | aVc | marzipan, do u have dcc? |
| 22:21.41 | aVc | i think dcc is quiker than posting on a server |
| 22:21.45 | Marzipan | http://www.ultratechnet.com/blog/2009/07/17/how-to-install-c-compiler-on-windows-xpvista2k-computer/ --> mabey this can help you ? |
| 22:22.09 | aVc | marzipan, what lang do u speak pirmally? |
| 22:22.20 | Marzipan | aVc what does that matter for you ? |
| 22:22.26 | aVc | lol |
| 22:22.32 | aVc | u said mabey |
| 22:22.42 | Marzipan | my mother tongue isn't english. |
| 22:23.08 | aVc | mine not, spanish but i talk not so good english |
| 22:23.17 | aVc | not fonetic but type |
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| 22:23.51 | blast007 | aVc: why would you need a database? |
| 22:24.22 | aVc | dang |
| 22:24.29 | aVc | jjust skipped that |
| 22:24.46 | blast007 | hopefully you didn't say you wanted sql server |
| 22:24.48 | blast007 | cuz you don't want it |
| 22:24.58 | Marzipan | laughs |
| 22:25.09 | blast007 | unless you like wasting space |
| 22:25.14 | aVc | http://www.ultratechnet.com/blog/2009/07/17/how-to-install-c-compiler-on-windows-xpvista2k-computer/ <-- will be too hard with gnu compiler |
| 22:25.19 | blast007 | then by all means put a check next to everything |
| 22:25.33 | aVc | i only have 14.9gb and goin down |
| 22:25.51 | Marzipan | what are your system specifications ? |
| 22:26.12 | aVc | please marzipan , put dcc |
| 22:26.20 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o blast007] by ChanServ |
| 22:26.22 | *** kick/#bzflag [aVc!~blast007@bzflag/developer/Blast] by blast007 (aVc) |
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| 22:26.34 | aVc | why?, how u did that? |
| 22:26.48 | blast007 | 1) because you are being annoying |
| 22:26.56 | blast007 | 2) because I'm an op here :P |
| 22:27.04 | Marzipan | smiles |
| 22:27.05 | Marzipan | ^^ |
| 22:27.07 | aVc | who put ur op via chanserv |
| 22:27.11 | blast007 | I did |
| 22:27.25 | aVc | THAT'S NOT FAIR :s |
| 22:27.34 | Marzipan | aVc this isn't the channel to answer such questions, it should be mainly for a chat about game related things. |
| 22:27.45 | aVc | ok |
| 22:27.51 | blast007 | this is the dev channel for bzflag |
| 22:27.55 | aVc | ok |
| 22:28.05 | aVc | where's? |
| 22:28.11 | blast007 | what? |
| 22:28.16 | Marzipan | if you want to know more about freenode join #help |
| 22:28.18 | aVc | i mean what's chan name |
| 22:28.27 | blast007 | look at your client |
| 22:28.33 | blast007 | it should say the channel name :P |
| 22:29.21 | Marzipan | lol |
| 22:29.56 | aVc | okmarzipan |
| 22:30.10 | aVc | ok |
| 22:30.48 | blast007 | if you need to post a picture of something, use an image host |
| 22:31.43 | Marzipan | http://imageshack.us/ ^^ |
| 22:32.14 | Marzipan | i would be happy if you could stop sending this file aVc. |
| 22:32.27 | Marzipan | and use the image host link provided |
| 22:32.33 | aVc | aw c'mon |
| 22:34.52 | aVc | still can't find bz dev |
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| 22:36.25 | blast007 | ? |
| 22:37.10 | bryjen1 | hrm |
| 22:37.12 | blast007 | aVc: bz dev? |
| 22:37.25 | *** part/#bzflag bryjen1 (~bryjen@75.81.201.131) |
| 22:37.32 | aVc | yes |
| 22:37.42 | blast007 | what is that referring to? |
| 22:37.48 | aVc | bzflag dev |
| 22:37.53 | blast007 | what is that referring to? |
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| 22:38.09 | aVc | .... |
| 22:38.39 | Marzipan | i think you need to express cleary what you want to know, and use the right words to formulate it :) |
| 22:39.34 | aVc | i will do it in spanish.... |
| 22:39.43 | aVc | other else nope |
| 22:40.26 | Marzipan | just to make that clear. as a 15 year old guy, you should have the knowlage to formulate things in english in a way that everyone understands it. |
| 22:40.58 | aVc | yes but in spanish im best |
| 22:41.17 | blast007 | I'm not sure what you are trying to find. "bzflag dev" isn't referring to anything specific. |
| 22:41.51 | blast007 | aVc: and also note that I don't even know how to ask where the bathroom is in spanish ;) |
| 22:42.03 | aVc | aw |
| 22:42.19 | aVc | i saw many dev chans but no bz+ç |
| 22:42.39 | blast007 | THIS is the bzflag development channel |
| 22:42.48 | blast007 | 16:27:51 <@blast007> this is the dev channel for bzflag |
| 22:43.00 | aVc | ah yes |
| 22:43.10 | aVc | olo |
| 22:43.31 | aVc | i was sure |
| 22:45.59 | aVc | here's -->http://img18.imageshack.us/gal.php?g=dibujj.png |
| 22:46.02 | aVc | hhmmm |
| 22:46.11 | aVc | where did jeff went? |
| 22:46.36 | blast007 | to get food |
| 22:46.40 | aVc | lol. |
| 22:46.44 | aVc | went? |
| 22:46.45 | blast007 | and which picture should I look at..? there's a list there |
| 22:46.48 | Marzipan | if you scroll up a bit in the chat log you can see that he went to get food :) |
| 22:46.50 | aVc | yeh |
| 22:46.54 | aVc | ok |
| 22:47.12 | aVc | what pic, i will explain |
| 22:47.21 | blast007 | right, which pic? |
| 22:47.31 | blast007 | the directx one isn't the SDK |
| 22:47.34 | blast007 | that's the runtime |
| 22:48.06 | aVc | the first is simply the 2.99.x shot, second is dx9 system report marzipan wanted it |
| 22:48.22 | blast007 | and also it says you only have 768MB left on your hard drive |
| 22:48.25 | blast007 | that won't be enough |
| 22:48.47 | aVc | 4&5 are the vc++ inst |
| 22:49.00 | blast007 | right. you don't have enough free space. |
| 22:49.08 | blast007 | the directX SDK install alone is 480MB |
| 22:49.11 | blast007 | then it has to *install* |
| 22:49.14 | aVc | and the last is simply something tht i just snap |
| 22:49.53 | blast007 | anyways, go read the forum thread again |
| 22:49.56 | blast007 | all the words |
| 22:49.59 | blast007 | not just every other |
| 22:50.06 | aVc | the last last is the dll/ bz plugins files that i got |
| 22:50.22 | blast007 | yeah, cuz that's really helpful |
| 22:50.24 | aVc | yeh the first thread i just read |
| 22:50.31 | blast007 | glad I know what plugins ship with bzflag now |
| 22:50.39 | aVc | lol |
| 22:50.45 | aVc | non |
| 22:50.51 | aVc | that not bz ship |
| 22:50.58 | aVc | i just downloaded |
| 22:51.12 | blast007 | um, that's what I said |
| 22:51.16 | blast007 | the plugins we ship with bzflag |
| 22:51.25 | blast007 | ship, as in, distribute |
| 22:51.34 | aVc | ah |
| 22:52.13 | aVc | i will post the disk report from win |
| 22:52.27 | blast007 | no, that's alright |
| 22:52.43 | blast007 | I don't really care |
| 22:52.47 | Marzipan | :| this discussion is circling. |
| 22:53.19 | aVc | just wait and see |
| 22:53.39 | Marzipan | http://www.mikeash.com/getting_answers.html |
| 22:53.48 | *** kick/#bzflag [aVc!~blast007@bzflag/developer/Blast] by blast007 (Go read the thread) |
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| 22:54.11 | *** mode/#bzflag [-o blast007] by blast007 |
| 22:54.28 | blast007 | er, wait, guess I need to keep that |
| 22:54.31 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o blast007] by ChanServ |
| 22:54.39 | blast007 | at lesat for 5 minutes so my client will unban him ;) |
| 22:54.45 | Marzipan | :) |
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| 22:55.29 | Marzipan | if anyobody feels like playing lasermania i m waiting there :) |
| 22:56.55 | blast007 | bah, now he's PMing me |
| 22:57.08 | blast007 | like the conversation is still going |
| 22:57.10 | blast007 | ;) |
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| 22:59.08 | blast007 | loves irssi ;) |
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| 23:11.09 | blast007 | JeffM2501: well, he left about 15 minutes ago ;) |
| 23:11.14 | JeffM2501 | hahah |
| 23:11.20 | JeffM2501 | how far did he get |
| 23:11.41 | blast007 | he got to show us pictures of him running the VC installer, and of dxdiag |
| 23:12.10 | blast007 | so I'm quite sure he doesn't have the DXSDK ;) |
| 23:12.22 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 23:12.26 | blast007 | he claimed he downloaded the SDK a week ago cuz he was interested it in |
| 23:12.40 | blast007 | and then something about the zbuffer with certain games |
| 23:13.21 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 23:13.39 | JeffM2501 | needs to find a good logo |
| 23:15.17 | temporalD | logos are not found, they are designed |
| 23:15.22 | JeffM2501 | true |
| 23:15.33 | JeffM2501 | unless you designed them once, and can't find them again ;) |
| 23:15.45 | JeffM2501 | I guess "figure out" would be a better term |
| 23:16.28 | JeffM2501 | I know I made a bunch of tank game logos once |
| 23:19.11 | JeffM2501 | tho the wp theme I picked gives me an idea for something else, but I'm not sure how to do it in HTML or CSS |
| 23:22.01 | JeffM2501 | hah, I found the old "bzflag centrum" logo |
| 23:22.03 | JeffM2501 | with the missile |
| 23:22.08 | blast007 | heh |
| 23:29.20 | JeffM2501 | how's this look? http://www.opencombat.net/ |
| 23:29.51 | JeffM2501 | I was pondering trying to make the tank clip the left and top borders so its' only the front part that shows |
| 23:29.52 | blast007 | haha, neat |
| 23:29.55 | JeffM2501 | but I don't know how to do that |
| 23:30.40 | JeffM2501 | cus now ether the tank is small or the grass is HUGE! |
| 23:31.09 | blast007 | that should be easy enough |
| 23:31.46 | JeffM2501 | for you maybe, I am not a wiz at wordpress templates :) |
| 23:31.55 | JeffM2501 | they build the header out of 3 images |
| 23:31.58 | blast007 | just make the image be only the corner of the tank you want to show, and then set 'positon: absolute; top: 0: left: 0;' on the image |
| 23:32.18 | JeffM2501 | hmm wonder if I can mod that |
| 23:33.20 | blast007 | that template is kinda weird, code-wise that is |
| 23:33.41 | blast007 | they have the logo image inside an <h1>, and then the actual blog title inside an <h4> |
| 23:33.55 | JeffM2501 | hmm it lets me edit the css |
| 23:34.21 | blast007 | the 'logo' class is appled to the <h1> that the logo is in |
| 23:35.06 | blast007 | #pagetitle h1.logo { ... } |
| 23:35.33 | JeffM2501 | well hmm dosn't seem to move it |
| 23:35.46 | JeffM2501 | #pagetitle h1.logo {'position: absolute; top: 0: left: 0;} |
| 23:36.33 | blast007 | I don't see any change in the CSS |
| 23:36.40 | blast007 | also, you don't want the single quote |
| 23:36.48 | JeffM2501 | ahh |
| 23:37.04 | blast007 | http://www.opencombat.net/wp-content/themes/arclite/style.css <-- that's the file that defines that item |
| 23:37.10 | blast007 | didn't realize there was more than one CSS file |
| 23:37.38 | blast007 | get rid of the 'float', set the padding to 0, and then add those three things |
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| 23:41.57 | aVc | lol |
| 23:42.00 | aVc | lie |
| 23:44.11 | JeffM2501 | wow, that actualy worked, and dosn't look too bad |
| 23:44.18 | JeffM2501 | tho the title is now gone |
| 23:44.37 | aVc | :P |
| 23:44.46 | JeffM2501 | and if you make the page too big it clips |
| 23:44.48 | blast007 | oh, crud |
| 23:45.01 | JeffM2501 | but it looks kinda cool I think |
| 23:45.10 | blast007 | you can fix the title part |
| 23:45.19 | blast007 | it was relying on the logo floating |
| 23:45.26 | JeffM2501 | k |
| 23:45.41 | JeffM2501 | so make it float again? |
| 23:45.44 | blast007 | no |
| 23:45.57 | JeffM2501 | take the float out of the h4? |
| 23:46.25 | blast007 | for #pagetitle h4 in that same file, try setting a margin-left that is a bit wider than the tank image |
| 23:46.29 | blast007 | in px |
| 23:47.10 | JeffM2501 | k, that fixed that |
| 23:47.26 | blast007 | I'll have to go to a larger screen to see the other problem |
| 23:48.16 | blast007 | ah |
| 23:48.24 | JeffM2501 | hmm I should put a glow under the tank too |
| 23:48.54 | blast007 | well, you could also use an image that is the full width, but then set a negative 'left' so that it only shows part of the tank until you get to a wider screen |
| 23:49.00 | blast007 | I think that should work |
| 23:49.12 | JeffM2501 | hmm ok |
| 23:49.20 | JeffM2501 | that'd be kinda cool |
| 23:49.41 | blast007 | can't recall if that's valid CSS or not |
| 23:50.28 | temporalD | kinda like the thinkgeek.com background? |
| 23:50.49 | aVc | lol cobra |
| 23:51.05 | blast007 | yup, looks like it supports negative |
| 23:52.45 | JeffM2501 | ok, that == bitchen, thanks :) |
| 23:53.13 | blast007 | np :) |
| 23:53.23 | JeffM2501 | damn that looks good |
| 23:54.19 | JeffM2501 | time to check it in IE |
| 23:54.39 | JeffM2501 | yep that works too |
| 23:55.15 | blast007 | and don't worry about IE6 |
| 23:55.22 | blast007 | they're used to seeing stuff look like crap |
| 23:55.28 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 23:55.38 | JeffM2501 | now to get the commits feed to actualy update |
| 23:55.39 | blast007 | even microsoft's site isn't supporting IE6 as much anymore |
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| 23:59.41 | JeffM2501 | too bad I can't actualy use that tank in game |
| 23:59.46 | JeffM2501 | unless I give it a custom license |
