IRC log for #bzflag on 20100509

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00:19.12bradBulletCatcher: fyi, not sure if it's a bug or not, but /set _disableSpeedChecks 1 still results in people getting kicked for moving too fast. I'm changing _tankSpeed via a plugin if it makes a difference.
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01:44.56blast007brad: " -speedtol: multiplier of normal speed for auto kick (default=1.25)"
02:40.25CIA-10BZFlag: 03bullet_catcher * r21091 10/trunk/bzflag/src/clientbase/playing.cxx: Build the version error message using std::string instead of clever character array manipulation.
02:41.27BulletCatcherMcSpider: That should stop the error message from being truncated.
02:41.38McSpiderok good
02:50.28CIA-10BZFlag: 03trepan * r21092 10/trunk/bzflag/ (10 files in 6 dirs): (log message trimmed)
02:50.28CIA-10BZFlag: * fixed bz_setPlayerCustomData()
02:50.28CIA-10BZFlag: * added bz.SetPlayerCustomData() (a lua call-out)
02:50.28CIA-10BZFlag: * renamed bz_PlayerSentCustomData_V1 to bz_PlayerCustomData_V1
02:50.28CIA-10BZFlag:  (it's being used for 2 different types of events)
02:50.29CIA-10BZFlag: * simplified the LuaServer PlayerSentCustomData() call-in return format
02:50.30CIA-10BZFlag:  ("return false" means "do not relay the change")
02:52.31trepananother couple of hours on bzflag.bz to compile that one, touched bzfsAPI.h  :)
02:53.03blast007imagine if there wasn't 403MB of irssi clients
02:53.50trepanya, i don't get why the logging has to eat that much memory
02:53.56blast007it isn't logging
02:54.00blast007it's plugins
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02:54.20trepanand what do they do that requires the memory?
02:54.24blast007memory leaks
02:54.31trepanyou kidding me ...
02:54.37trepan*you're
02:54.38blast007think brlcad said it might be due to the old version of perl on the server
02:55.04trepanand said plugins are required?
02:55.09blast007shrugs
02:55.15trepanheh
02:55.33blast007it's probably some fancy stuff for freenode staff :P
02:55.42trepanblast007: ah, fwiw, i fixed the motto stuff your way
02:56.15trepanresent the data in addPlayer(), instead of my way which would have the client wait for MsgAccept before sending the data
02:56.30trepanyour way, the data might get sent twice; but big whoopdeedoo
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02:58.17trepanfwiw, the 'motto' field can now be changed dynamically from the client; but a plugin (or lua module) to block it is trivial
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03:33.34allejohmmm is there any documentation on the bzw format for 3.0?
03:34.12trepanbzw.5
03:41.18allejotrepan: umm, sorrry but where is that?
03:42.54allejooh nvm. i see it :)
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08:35.03CIA-10BZFlag: 03trepan * r21093 10/trunk/bzflag/src/ (12 files in 4 dirs):
08:35.03CIA-10BZFlag: * fixed remote sounds (4 different bugs)
08:35.03CIA-10BZFlag: * fixed the MsgStrings MsgPlayerUpdate[Small] handling
08:35.03CIA-10BZFlag: * changed the observer mouse control back to the original setup
08:35.03CIA-10BZFlag:  (I think I got it right the first time, but it's a matter of taste)
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09:45.59CIA-10BZFlag: 03Honeytank 07http://my.bzflag.org * r7027 10/w/Showdown_League: New page: =Showdown League Info= ===General Informations=== The Showdown League is actually a very young CTF style league. The league was launched on April 22th, 2010 by [http://my.bzflag.org/bb/...
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12:18.36guccigirlhola
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12:59.17Crankdoofus~bzfquery jericho.homeip.net:5154
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14:09.18delusionalpossible replacement for boxwall.png?  I kept the colors very much the same but gave it cleaner mortar, larger bricks. There are more variations on the theme if you go up one URL level.  
14:09.21delusionalhttp://images.planet-mofo.com/A-Delusion/psych/filterforge/boxwall/boxwall5_smoothBricks_cleanBond.png
14:22.47CIA-10BZFlag: 0391.96.121.78 07http://my.bzflag.org * r7033 10/w/Showdown_League:
14:23.42ahs3-delusional, looks good
14:24.22CIA-10BZFlag: 03Honeytank 07http://my.bzflag.org * r7034 10/w/Showdown_League:
14:25.00CIA-10BZFlag: 03Honeytank 07http://my.bzflag.org * r7035 10/w/Showdown_League:
14:29.56delusionaldid you try it?
14:30.38delusionaltry the one with the slightly off-center brick  bond http://images.planet-mofo.com/A-Delusion/psych/filterforge/boxwall/boxwall4_rougher_chaoticBond.png
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14:59.55trepanhm, not sure that GameTime::getStepTime() is the right thing to be using for LagInfo::updateLag()  (via MsgPlayerUpdate[Small] packets)
15:01.43trepanupdateLag() only seems to look at packet loss and jitter, might be ok  (but GameTime has a bit of a feedback loop in that it use the halfLag time sent from the server)
15:01.56trepan*uses*
15:03.49trepanon the up side, the SH flag visibility seems to be the only big item left
15:03.56trepanand that shouldn't take too long
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15:08.01delusionali think maybe a smoother brick surface, rougher mortar, and a slightly chaotic bond,  might be the the best, when viewed in the client.   http://images.planet-mofo.com/A-Delusion/psych/filterforge/boxwall/boxwall5_smooth_45Bond.png
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15:25.47trepanon a related note, a good place to gank textures:  http://sauerbraten.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/sauerbraten/packages/
15:25.52short_circuitHappy mothers day to you mothers who actually deserve it ;) This single dad is gonna be grilling up steak, pork chops and sausage along with mash potatoes and gravy and some peas and green beans on the side for his daughters. mmmMMMmmm Happy bzflag'ing too :)
15:26.17trepana lot of the textures have associated normal/gloss/height maps
15:27.45Cobra_Fasthow to ban a player on ID that isn't on the server? (BZFS 2.0.16)
15:29.07trepanby IP, by hostname, by BZID
15:29.16blast007Cobra_Fast: /iban +34343 30d reason here
15:29.22blast007the + symbol is the key
15:29.30blast007you need their bzid as well
15:30.08trepan* /idban
15:30.16blast007er, yeah
15:30.41Cobra_Fastbzid is the id in the url of the player profile on bb?
15:35.57CIA-10BZFlag: 03trepan * r21094 10/trunk/bzflag/ (3 files in 3 dirs): * minor reformatting
15:45.39tsCobra_Fast: it's the number after u= in the url
15:46.19tsCobra_Fast: 1304 for instance ;)
15:47.23Cobra_Fastthx, but i already had figured it out myself
15:47.35Cobra_Fasthow did you know im gonna ban 1304? =D
15:48.05tsIt was an educated guess
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16:55.32trepananyone know why MsgShotBegin() (server->client) adds playerID & shotID at the beginning of the message (they're already available in the packed FiringInfo data)
16:55.56trepanheh, s/()//, s/message/message?/
16:57.03trepanas for the SH flag visibility problem, it's because the MsgFlagUpdate is missing
16:58.35DTRemenaktrepan: historical reasons probably, FiringInfo was added more recently
16:58.56trepanno, that's been changed since 2.0.x, iirc
17:00.25trepanya, 2.0.x did a  '// repack if changed\n firingInfo.pack(buf)' and sent it back out
17:00.42DTRemenakhm
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17:34.03delusionalwhen is explode1.png used, as opposed to explode2.png?
17:37.44trepansrc/bzflag/guiplaying.cxx:6374
17:38.08trepanseems they're both used to generate the prototypeExplosions
17:39.15trepanalso, it looks like explode2 is just explode1 rotated 180 degrees
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20:40.31CIA-10BZFlag: 03trepan * r21095 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzfs/bzfsAPI.cxx: * format cleanup
20:42.16CIA-10BZFlag: 03trepan * r21096 10/trunk/bzflag/src/ (32 files in 6 dirs): * tanks now carry flagID's, not just flagTypes
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20:48.35mrappleok im specifying the location to conf file for bzfs, but it says the file does not exist, however it does
20:48.56mrappleim not sure why its happening or anything. has anyone else had this problem before?
20:51.14bradgot a blank line at the end of the file?
20:51.28mrapplenope
20:51.42bradthink you need one.
20:52.08mrappleoh it works!
20:52.14mrapplewhat an odd bug
20:52.21bradyeah...its strange
20:52.40mrapplethanks brad
20:52.44bradnp
20:53.04delusionalwow, i thought i'd heard them all.
20:53.09mrapple:P
20:53.29mrappledon't worry i tried about 20 different things and made sure it wasnt operator error before i asked :P
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