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| 00:27.59 | mrapple | hi - this error when compiling the v20 branch on ubuntu 10 http://pastebin.com/6ShA7mEM |
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| 00:42.49 | mrapple | well thats akward. did a fresh checkout and everything's working now :D |
| 00:43.02 | blast007 | don't build as root |
| 00:43.12 | blast007 | only do the 'make install' part as root |
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| 00:49.07 | mrapple | why not build as root, just worked for me |
| 00:49.34 | mrapple | er wait maybe i typed make install this time |
| 00:49.37 | Think_Differentl | it's not exactly safe |
| 00:50.52 | blast007 | mrapple: you might end up with more problems later, and you should use root sparingly |
| 00:51.04 | mrapple | o.o ok |
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| 00:55.05 | trepan | blast007: i randomly throw a "all:\n\trm -rf /" into to my Makefiles, as a teaching tool |
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| 00:55.18 | blast007 | hehe |
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| 10:27.29 | Constitution | Gnurdux ping |
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| 12:08.07 | Cobra_Fast | how would i scale an object without having its position/shift scaled? |
| 12:08.19 | trepan | order matters |
| 12:08.40 | Cobra_Fast | what goes first? |
| 12:09.19 | trepan | 1. think it through |
| 12:09.25 | trepan | 2. try all two options |
| 12:09.33 | trepan | pick one ;) |
| 12:10.00 | Cobra_Fast | ok scale goes first :D |
| 12:10.21 | Cobra_Fast | (picked 2.) |
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| 14:17.59 | MacGyver11 | any bzaddict admins here? |
| 14:20.45 | joevano | maybe |
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| 14:31.38 | Constitution | hmmm, decisions |
| 14:31.42 | Constitution | http://fairserve.net/~josh/mbp_options.txt |
| 14:32.47 | Constitution | I'm thinking the 256MB of VRAM is the deal-breaker... that 17-inch refurbished model is looking pretty attractive right now |
| 14:33.57 | MacGyver11 | hmm |
| 14:34.02 | MacGyver11 | let me have a look at thtat |
| 14:35.25 | Constitution | I hear the new core i7 and i5 processors make the others eat dirt, but that 17" refurbished MBP is like 20% off the original price |
| 14:35.45 | MacGyver11 | yeah. the 17" refurb does look good, doesn't it. ;) |
| 14:35.53 | MacGyver11 | I'd go with that. |
| 14:36.03 | MacGyver11 | looks like a winner |
| 14:36.47 | MacGyver11 | hard drive is slower, but that's not a huge deal |
| 14:41.26 | Constitution | yeah, $50 more for less screen, faster CPU and faster disk... not sure |
| 14:41.49 | Constitution | I've only had 15" versions, I think I want to try the 17" |
| 14:42.10 | MacGyver11 | i think you'll like the 17" |
| 14:42.33 | Constitution | you a mac guy? |
| 14:42.37 | MacGyver11 | used to be |
| 14:43.06 | MacGyver11 | couldnt handle the lack of programs anymore. |
| 14:43.23 | MacGyver11 | my powerbook ti was a friggin' tank though |
| 14:43.28 | blast007 | I hate my 17" laptop |
| 14:43.55 | Constitution | a cheap asus doesn't count |
| 14:43.59 | MacGyver11 | lmao |
| 14:44.01 | blast007 | it's not a cheap asus |
| 14:44.06 | blast007 | it's a cheap Everex |
| 14:44.19 | blast007 | the display is great |
| 14:44.23 | blast007 | just everything else... |
| 14:44.27 | blast007 | ;) |
| 14:44.33 | MacGyver11 | I'm actually pretty happy with my acer, except for the lack of support. |
| 14:44.53 | MacGyver11 | awesome display |
| 14:45.00 | MacGyver11 | hd movies look great on it |
| 14:45.48 | blast007 | Constitution: you should get a PC. $500 less for more screen, faster CPU, and faster disk ;) |
| 14:46.18 | MacGyver11 | he's right... you can always find a way to dualboot osx |
| 14:46.22 | Constitution | nah... macbook pros are solid, great hardware, a great OS, and great support... fits the bill for me |
| 14:46.45 | blast007 | http://tech.icrontic.com/articles/five-reasons-why-you-dont-actually-need-a-mac/ |
| 14:46.49 | MacGyver11 | lol |
| 14:46.49 | blast007 | runs |
| 14:47.09 | blast007 | Constitution: oh, and I love this too: http://www.apple.com/why-mac/ |
| 14:47.16 | MacGyver11 | ha! |
| 14:47.34 | blast007 | "It doesn't get PC viruses" on one side, and "It runs Windows and Windows applications." on the other |
| 14:47.53 | MacGyver11 | oxymoron? |
| 14:48.03 | blast007 | conflict of benefits ;) |
| 14:48.17 | MacGyver11 | quite right. |
| 14:48.37 | blast007 | "it's loaded with the latest technology, if we feel like it" |
| 14:49.00 | MacGyver11 | but hey, if it works for const, that's cool |
| 14:49.06 | blast007 | yup |
| 14:49.17 | blast007 | certainly doesn't work for me |
| 14:49.19 | blast007 | my mac, I mean |
| 14:49.22 | blast007 | it's dead |
| 14:49.43 | MacGyver11 | it's kind of like saying, "you like country music... meh..." xD |
| 14:49.48 | blast007 | my PC from 198x still boots |
| 14:49.59 | brad | ~bzflist |
| 14:50.08 | MacGyver11 | lol i think i could boot my old on too |
| 14:50.10 | brad | ^ |
| 14:50.12 | Constitution | I have a desktop too, with ubuntu... won't touch windoze with a 39-1/2 foot pole |
| 14:50.23 | blast007 | brad: stop breaking the list! |
| 14:50.24 | blast007 | ;) |
| 14:50.32 | brad | :'( |
| 14:50.47 | Constitution | so I use both, but I find the mac more intuitive as far as the OS |
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| 14:51.20 | MacGyver11 | ok. as much as i love this debate, imma go play some bzf. :) |
| 14:51.41 | MacGyver11 | cheers all. |
| 14:51.43 | blast007 | cya |
| 14:51.51 | blast007 | ~bzflist |
| 14:52.00 | blast007 | hmm |
| 14:52.55 | Constitution | that never goes down does it? |
| 14:53.02 | Constitution | *duck* |
| 14:53.06 | blast007 | never |
| 14:53.11 | blast007 | it just gets infinitely slow |
| 14:53.20 | blast007 | ;) |
| 14:53.37 | blast007 | ~bzflist |
| 14:53.50 | blast007 | see? it was never down! |
| 14:54.26 | blast007 | looks like it was probably a botnet hitting it |
| 14:55.44 | blast007 | china, russia, india - oh my! |
| 14:56.37 | Constitution | so glad our young asian boys are finding fulfilling things to do with their time |
| 14:56.45 | blast007 | probably this china one mainly |
| 14:56.53 | blast007 | 121 entries for an IP in netstat ;) |
| 14:57.48 | Constitution | sounds legit |
| 14:57.52 | blast007 | apparently still hitting it |
| 14:59.15 | MacGyver11 | like a naughty kid? :D |
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| 15:03.14 | blast007 | well, that should take care of that |
| 15:03.23 | blast007 | unless they have more hosts ;) |
| 15:03.39 | temporalD | firewalled the eastern hemisphere? |
| 15:03.50 | blast007 | of course! |
| 15:05.00 | blast007 | hrm, it's the same crap as before - repeatedly downloading the same PDF files from brlcad.org |
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| 16:00.51 | blast007 | load average was over 15 |
| 16:01.53 | blast007 | haha, might just be cuz both google and yahoo are crawling the server |
| 16:03.32 | temporalD | and MSN |
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| 18:35.57 | Cobra_Fast | How to use texcoords in meshes? |
| 18:36.19 | Cobra_Fast | (i assume i need to add them if i want a texture scaled to its face) |
| 18:41.16 | JeffM2501 | they define where each vertex sits on the texture |
| 18:41.35 | JeffM2501 | with 0 and 1 being the edges of the texture in that axis |
| 18:42.03 | JeffM2501 | what kind of shape do you have? |
| 18:42.03 | Cobra_Fast | so if i say vertices 0 1 2 and texcoords 0 1 2 texcoord 0 is at vertex 0 ? |
| 18:42.20 | JeffM2501 | well those are tex coord indexes |
| 18:42.30 | JeffM2501 | the actual texcord is 2 values |
| 18:42.34 | Cobra_Fast | i know |
| 18:42.49 | Cobra_Fast | i want to know how they stick to each other inside the face object |
| 18:42.52 | JeffM2501 | and yes the index order is the same |
| 18:43.10 | JeffM2501 | vertex 1 goes with textord 1 |
| 18:43.20 | JeffM2501 | anything else would be absurd :) |
| 18:43.21 | Cobra_Fast | so i could stick texcoord 1 to vertex 0 if i change the order? |
| 18:43.27 | JeffM2501 | sure |
| 18:43.32 | JeffM2501 | they are just indexes |
| 18:43.33 | Cobra_Fast | ok thank you :) |
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| 20:03.01 | mrapple | hi - i belive my server ip (173.244.163.26) is banned from the list server |
| 20:03.14 | mrapple | i can start bzfs fine and run it on a private list server, but not on the bzflag one |
| 20:06.24 | blast007 | mrapple: can you ping the list from your server? |
| 20:06.30 | mrapple | ill try |
| 20:06.49 | blast007 | should be able to - I can ping to your server, so nvm |
| 20:07.04 | mrapple | well wierd it wont put my server up there |
| 20:07.30 | blast007 | "Requesting address is 173.244.163.26 while server is at 67.223.227.166" |
| 20:07.39 | blast007 | so probably our domain isn't point to the right IP yet |
| 20:07.59 | blast007 | bzbureau.com still resolves as 67.223.227.166 |
| 20:08.21 | blast007 | minimum of an hour and 12 minutes left on the cache |
| 20:08.41 | mrapple | ok |
| 20:09.30 | blast007 | could use the IP for now, or make a new host entry like bz.bzbureau.com and use that for now |
| 20:10.27 | mrapple | eh ill just use ip |
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| 22:51.50 | Cobra_Fast | just uploaded three new textures and I hope they got moderated when im on tomorrow. so good bye and have a good night! |
| 22:56.41 | joevano | Cobra_Slow: done |
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