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| 00:36.36 | TimRiker | drops in a reads ... |
| 00:39.11 | TimRiker | for the record, feel free to make a BZFlag with turrets and release it. I'm not one to stop people from implementing what they want. I, like many other developers, just have not spent the time recently to finish and stabilize the new stuff. There are a LOT of projects that anyone can pick up. If you want moving turrets, try it! If people like the new version, great! Even if they don't, we've learned something. :) |
| 00:41.50 | trepan | TimRiker: i don't think that it matters anymore :) |
| 00:42.24 | TimRiker | which part? :) |
| 00:42.29 | jh` | tim only likes turrets in his ... |
| 00:43.04 | trepan | TimRiker: any of it |
| 00:44.09 | TimRiker | heh. perhaps not. what would be interesting, now that global logins are in broad use, is to have some stored per-player stats. Something that shows in game. earned abilities or something like that. |
| 00:44.39 | TimRiker | that would get more interest in the game. I'm just dreaming here though, not planning to start working on something at present. |
| 00:45.06 | TimRiker | someday I'll get back to it, but nobody should stop doing what they want to do on my account. |
| 00:45.30 | TimRiker | JefferyM has a healthy attitude. " I have never worried about what TimRiker thought ;) " |
| 00:46.07 | JefferyM | nobody really cares anymore. it's time for the codebase to move on. |
| 00:46.24 | TimRiker | move on to what? |
| 00:46.39 | JefferyM | a retirement home and be replaced by a new game |
| 00:46.42 | TimRiker | how can it move on if nobody cares about it? |
| 00:46.44 | JefferyM | with a more modern outlook |
| 00:46.57 | JefferyM | well the people can move on |
| 00:47.01 | JefferyM | the code can be retired ;) |
| 00:47.07 | JefferyM | it had a good run |
| 00:47.27 | TimRiker | yep. I've spend some time in SecondLife and on OSgrid. there are a lot of other examples too. don't feel like I'm keeping you here. :) but feel free to stay as long as you want. |
| 00:48.08 | TimRiker | seen http://www.minecraft.net/ ? there's a new game that seemingly came out of nowhere. |
| 00:48.17 | JefferyM | yes |
| 00:48.28 | JefferyM | it's a derived version of a C# game that went open source |
| 00:48.31 | JefferyM | inftraminer |
| 00:48.36 | JefferyM | well expanded a lot |
| 00:48.44 | JefferyM | voxels FTW |
| 00:48.47 | TimRiker | cool. |
| 00:49.12 | JefferyM | it's networking is less then awesome but he'll get it fixed up |
| 00:49.18 | JefferyM | now that he has several million dolars |
| 00:49.41 | TimRiker | apparently. that's the part I find most amazing. |
| 00:49.56 | JefferyM | people will buy anything if it's fun and cheap |
| 00:50.42 | TimRiker | crs tried to sell the windows version of bzflag but never got enough revenue to justify it. course the internet was much smaller then. |
| 00:51.37 | JefferyM | yeah |
| 00:51.52 | JefferyM | he wanted to do boxes in stores, and it's not enough of a game for that |
| 00:51.59 | TimRiker | nods |
| 00:52.06 | JefferyM | minecraft has the sandbox aspect so even a little code makes it have a lot of replay |
| 00:53.40 | TimRiker | nods |
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| 01:27.51 | kierra | seems to me bzf needs a maintainer who really maintains :) |
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| 01:29.15 | catking00 | hi ppls of da above and below and joe |
| 01:31.59 | catay | ~kierra++ |
| 01:32.25 | kierra | oh geez |
| 01:33.02 | kierra | i just happen to likie this game and hate to see it die |
| 01:33.10 | kierra | from benign neglect |
| 01:33.20 | kierra | or not so benign.. |
| 01:33.45 | catay | i'll buy you a C/C++ book for Christmas :) |
| 01:34.09 | kierra | yeah and maybe in 5 yrs i'll learn it |
| 01:34.13 | kierra | :P |
| 01:34.28 | mrapple | catayyyyy |
| 01:34.32 | kierra | but go ahead, I love a challenge |
| 01:34.50 | catay | oh no , mrapple, time to go to bed :P |
| 01:35.04 | mrapple | dangit! |
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| 02:28.11 | TimRiker | well, I'd like to add more central services and some degree of saved progress or karma or similar to the system. I think I'll get xmission.bzflag.org back online and start working on improvements there. |
| 02:30.19 | TimRiker | I wonder how the community would react if there were some extra add-ons that would require purchase. if I had a small revenue stream, it would be easy to justify spending more time on the game. Just thinking out loud. |
| 02:31.37 | TimRiker | heh. a central banner-ad system where popular server operators could get revenue would also be effective. there's a new pet project for you. :) |
| 02:41.32 | delusional | I'm all for revenue. |
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| 02:52.15 | TimRiker | http://mrtg.rikers.org/bzflag-year.png shows very slow decline in number of players and servers over the past year and a half or so. would be nice to get that moving in the other direction again. |
| 03:08.21 | mrapple | http://www.google.com/trends?q=bzflag |
| 03:09.13 | delusional | IMy traffic is actually up 30 to 40 percent in the last few months. http://stats.planet-mofo.com/cgi-bin/index.cgi?hostname=mail.planet-mofo.com&plugin=interface×pan=31622400&action=show_selection&ok_button=OK |
| 03:11.10 | mrapple | mail.planet-mofo.com? |
| 03:11.46 | delusional | that's just where the daily report is sent |
| 03:11.52 | mrapple | ah |
| 03:12.12 | mrapple | whats with the cpu spike in late august? o.O |
| 03:12.22 | delusional | wish i knew |
| 03:12.25 | blast007 | calculating pi |
| 03:12.37 | mrapple | haha |
| 03:13.36 | BulletCatcher | You have to do that occasionally to purge the alien personalities. |
| 03:13.36 | mrapple | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:14.21 | blast007 | no, just ones that calculate it all in one swipe |
| 03:14.37 | blast007 | takes a few seconds |
| 03:14.58 | blast007 | turns out Pi only has 8 digits |
| 03:15.22 | BulletCatcher | I bet it has all ten. |
| 03:15.27 | catking00 | gobbledeegook |
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| 03:22.23 | BulletCatcher | On the subject of pi: http://www.numberworld.org/misc_runs/pi-5t/details.html |
| 03:22.34 | BulletCatcher | I am going to use their results to increase the precision of M_PI defined in include/common.h . |
| 03:22.39 | BulletCatcher | It may take awhile to upload 5 terabytes of data to SourceForge, so please be patient. |
| 03:22.55 | blast007 | hehe |
| 03:28.15 | trepan | heh, M_PI looks like it's already overspec'ed |
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| 03:31.15 | spldart | And to think. I only have pi memorized to 42 places after the decimal :( |
| 03:31.49 | spldart | hopes that's enough to win a nerd bet someday |
| 03:33.01 | AAA_awright | Try a hundred |
| 03:33.25 | AAA_awright | Me personally I don't know any more than the ol' TI does |
| 03:33.57 | Packman | 100 in one breath |
| 03:34.14 | spldart | slowly working up there but I don't think I'll make it to 100. I have to much real world life to deal with ;) |
| 03:34.21 | trepan | ya, anything after 8 places of pi is gravy for floats |
| 03:35.04 | Packman | to be fair, i would be most impressed (really) if someone like that could successfully recite pi^2 also |
| 03:35.14 | Packman | no one ever cares about pi^2 :P |
| 03:35.22 | Packman | even pi * 2 |
| 03:36.04 | blast007 | square root of pi |
| 03:36.53 | trepan | e^pi-pi? :) |
| 03:37.31 | spldart | so much 'irrationality' in this channel |
| 03:37.48 | Packman | i was just following your lead :/ |
| 03:37.57 | spldart | I was j/k |
| 03:38.06 | spldart | with a math pun |
| 03:38.09 | trepan | e^pi-pi = 20 ... classic fp trap |
| 03:39.16 | trepan | heh, there's even a xkcd about it: http://xkcd.com/217/ |
| 03:39.55 | mrapple | hah |
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| 04:05.02 | delusional | you gotta pay 10 euros to play that minecraft game |
| 04:06.19 | delusional | i guess thats where he got the several million dollars |
| 04:09.26 | JeffM2501 | yep |
| 04:09.33 | JeffM2501 | when half a million people buy it ;) |
| 04:12.29 | JeffM2501 | tis a good game and well worth the pittance he's asking for it |
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| 21:11.09 | Packman | With a plugin using stuff in bzfs.h, is it possible to tell a client to locally change their position? (teleport) |
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| 21:19.38 | mrapple | Packman: maybe using GameKeeper or whatever, send player disconnect, change position, reconnect them |
| 21:19.49 | mrapple | tries |
| 21:20.11 | mrapple | ibot: seen l4m3r |
| 21:20.19 | ibot | l4m3r is currently on #bzflag-chat (3d 17h 36m 1s), last said: 'Cyclists of ##essy, I just lost my bike. And my car. :('. |
| 21:21.32 | mrapple | does anyone have l4m3r's plugin starter php script |
| 21:21.39 | mrapple | I really liked it ;) |
| 21:22.23 | mrapple | mentioned here http://stats.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?f=78&t=12301 but the link is dead |
| 21:23.50 | mrapple | haha |
| 21:23.50 | mrapple | 23:31.30mrapplehttp://l4m3r.bzflag.net/scripts/plugin_starter.php helped me alot a while back |
| 21:23.53 | mrapple | 23:32.06JefferyMwow that is a big ass go button |
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| 21:28.19 | trepan | Packman: yes, it's possible; you can use MsgAlive to that effect |
| 21:28.57 | mrapple | you can send msgalive even if they're already alive? |
| 21:28.59 | mrapple | heh |
| 21:29.05 | blast007 | yes |
| 21:29.44 | JeffM2501 | so long as the client just accepts it sure |
| 21:29.49 | JeffM2501 | it's just a message |
| 21:31.32 | mrapple | I feel a new plugin coming on |
| 21:31.53 | JeffM2501 | I hear there is a cream for that, ask your doctor |
| 21:33.32 | trepan | note that the target of the MsgAlive deletes all of their shots |
| 21:33.40 | trepan | the same is not true for the other clients |
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| 23:43.44 | mrapple | anyone to approve a texture really quickly? it's just a sepia version of std_ground |
| 23:44.51 | catking00 | hi mr apple :P |
| 23:47.51 | L4m3r | who do I talk to about the bzflag.net subdomains? it's been a while |
| 23:47.59 | mrapple | L4m3r! |
| 23:48.17 | mrapple | TimRiker i believe. anyways, could you share your plugin_starter.php script with me? |
| 23:48.57 | L4m3r | it will be back online soon, just need to get the DNS fixed |
| 23:49.27 | mrapple | can you share it anyways? a few bugs that need fixing, and id like my own version :D |
| 23:49.29 | L4m3r | my host moved my server |
| 23:49.30 | mrapple | with new evens and stuff |
| 23:49.33 | mrapple | events* |
| 23:49.57 | L4m3r | nah |
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