| 00:02.09 | bryjen | who can edit the .bzflag.net DNS records? |
| 00:02.17 | JefferyM | tim |
| 00:02.27 | JefferyM | send him an email for best results |
| 00:02.37 | bryjen | ok, thanks |
| 00:03.16 | trepan | Constitution: glVertexPointer() is what you're describing |
| 00:03.46 | trepan | glGenVertexArrays() and friends are used to group attribute data state |
| 00:04.01 | trepan | which attribute channels are active, how they're bound, etc.. |
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| 00:23.23 | kierra_away | blast |
| 00:25.58 | Constitution | it all!! |
| 00:26.12 | JefferyM | to the moon |
| 00:26.19 | kierra_away | yay |
| 00:26.27 | kierra_away | one way trip? |
| 00:26.41 | kierra_away | are there eats on board? |
| 00:27.05 | Constitution | that would be a meal "to die for" |
| 00:27.08 | JefferyM | astronaut icecream |
| 00:29.54 | kierra_away | i hope its not fattening |
| 00:30.59 | JefferyM | it would not be good if it wasn't |
| 00:31.11 | kierra_away | so true |
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| 03:30.18 | KTL | is there a way to specify just GL_LINES in a bzw ? (probably no but who knows someone did implement that) |
| 03:30.56 | trepan | drawInfo |
| 03:31.12 | KTL | searches |
| 03:31.36 | KTL | hugs trepan |
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| 14:53.54 | KTL | what are those corners in drawinfo ? |
| 14:54.29 | trepan | associations of vertex/normal/texcoord |
| 14:54.49 | KTL | ah right ... |
| 14:54.53 | trepan | at a given vertex, you can have as many corners as there are connected faces |
| 14:55.27 | trepan | at a "smooth" vertex (where normal and texcoord transitions are continuous, you'd only need one corner) |
| 14:55.44 | trepan | bad bracing, but i hope the point still got through ;) |
| 14:56.00 | KTL | thanks :) |
| 14:56.10 | trepan | KTL: your best bet is to use a modeller, then a .obj => drawInfo converter, then hand tweak |
| 14:56.39 | trepan | if you're still playing with lines, you might want to use the "nolighting" material property |
| 14:56.43 | KTL | and lines in .obj ? |
| 14:56.52 | trepan | (normals don't make that much sense on lines) |
| 14:56.58 | trepan | no, use faces in obj |
| 14:57.07 | KTL | i only got lines :) |
| 14:57.12 | trepan | in .obj? |
| 14:57.18 | KTL | without obj still |
| 14:57.23 | KTL | in my c++ code |
| 14:57.27 | KTL | that generates it |
| 14:57.48 | KTL | i somehow try to have a bunch of GL_LINES in the bzw |
| 14:58.29 | KTL | (which wont lead to "realistic" maps, but "artistic" would still be in reach) |
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| 17:25.22 | KTL | i cant get the skybox to work anymore, a few years ago i could mmm ... without textures, i just want everything black |
| 17:25.44 | JefferyM | there are vars that set the colors |
| 17:25.47 | KTL | http://my.bzflag.org/w/Skybox <- but i remember there was something wrong with the main example ... |
| 17:26.03 | KTL | of course i forgot what |
| 17:29.29 | JefferyM | _skycolor |
| 17:29.36 | JefferyM | set it to black |
| 17:29.48 | JefferyM | that will overide the default sky drawing and just draw it as black |
| 17:29.52 | JefferyM | no need for a skybox or anything |
| 17:32.19 | KTL | better, much better |
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| 21:43.56 | KTL | trepan, http://users.telenet.be/dpf/fractals_in_bzflag.png |
| 21:49.21 | KTL | delusional, :) |
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| 23:29.02 | trepan | KTL: you ended up using a texture? |
| 23:30.45 | KTL | a small one |
| 23:30.48 | KTL | just a gradient strip |
| 23:31.17 | trepan | looks good |
| 23:31.39 | KTL | myes i want to go further in that direction but now i am faced with a major code rewrite bweuuu |
| 23:31.42 | trepan | tried using a texmat? |
| 23:32.04 | KTL | euh no what does it do? |
| 23:32.40 | trepan | texture matrix, let's you do texcoord transformations |
| 23:32.50 | KTL | (currently i simply use a 200 pixels long texture and every line of fractal from root till end is 200 lines long, ) |
| 23:32.59 | trepan | (it's how conveyor belts can be rendered in bzflag) |
| 23:33.14 | KTL | transformations in time |
| 23:33.16 | KTL | ? |
| 23:33.24 | trepan | yes |
| 23:33.30 | KTL | veryyyy intresting |
| 23:33.32 | trepan | and static transformations |
| 23:34.06 | KTL | i dont see the use for the static transfos yet but the dynamic colors look fun |
| 23:34.12 | trepan | texmat, dyncol, and drawInfo angvel are the bzflag time-variant map renderering features |
| 23:34.31 | trepan | ***and*** static transformations |
| 23:34.59 | trepan | maybe the conveyor belt picture didn't quite do the trick ;) |
| 23:36.31 | trepan | reserves further comments until the fractal art is live, maybe _i'm_ not getting it 8^) |
| 23:38.39 | KTL | mmmm well the conveyor stuff would be nice allready now immediately if i could get it working, the colors would move through the "veins" of the tree |
| 23:46.41 | KTL | THIZIZDAXXX |
| 23:46.43 | KTL | cooool |
| 23:47.07 | KTL | my 3d flower/arganic like structure seems to be alive |
| 23:47.12 | KTL | *organic |
| 23:52.55 | KTL | sorry, a screenshot wont do this time |
