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| 00:27.20 | CIA-116 | bzflag: 03JeffM2501 * r21417 10/trunk/bzflag/ (5 files in 3 dirs): don't assume that the data dir is a subdirectory of the working dir, it may not be. Not everyone wants to set there data path at compile time. |
| 00:39.32 | CIA-116 | bzflag: 03bthansen * r21418 10/trunk/bzflag/ (include/PlayerInfo.h src/bzfs/bzfs.cxx): |
| 00:39.32 | CIA-116 | bzflag: Only allow a single end shot credit for holding the shield flag |
| 00:39.32 | CIA-116 | bzflag: This plugs a hole in the end shot cheat prevention code that allowed |
| 00:39.32 | CIA-116 | bzflag: cheat clients to send an unlimited number of end shot messages to the |
| 00:39.32 | CIA-116 | bzflag: server when holding a SHield flag. Symptoms of this cheat are |
| 00:39.33 | CIA-116 | bzflag: extremely short shots on the server while the cheat client is |
| 00:39.34 | CIA-116 | bzflag: connected. |
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| 01:25.58 | CIA-116 | BZFlag: 03Mdskpr 07http://my.bzflag.org * r7637 10/w/BZFlag_2.3: Some assignments for me. |
| 01:31.20 | JeffM | what flags were you going to do? |
| 01:32.01 | mdskpr | well in 2.99x there were only two additions: CS, and LG......we still have to eval them |
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| 01:32.35 | JeffM | I'd be for no new flags, less to playtest |
| 01:32.55 | mdskpr | true, but LG would be rather easy imho |
| 01:33.01 | mdskpr | to test also |
| 01:33.19 | JeffM | to test alone yes, but to test how it interacts with the rest of the flags, hard |
| 01:33.24 | JeffM | wings was easy to test alone :) |
| 01:33.34 | JeffM | and look what it did to all of gameplay |
| 01:33.45 | mdskpr | tru tru |
| 01:34.57 | mdskpr | that type of testing is done by the mapmakers...right? to show their level of preference with flag interaction |
| 01:35.08 | JeffM | hahah no |
| 01:35.17 | JeffM | that type of testing hasn't been done in the past |
| 01:35.22 | JeffM | we should playtest it |
| 01:35.36 | JeffM | a good flag dosn't need a map to go with it |
| 01:35.49 | JeffM | in fact flags that are only useful on some maps are not good flags |
| 01:36.14 | mdskpr | WG was not like that.....only when overpowered(i.e. without momentum and extra jumps) |
| 01:36.23 | JeffM | yeah WG isn't a good flag |
| 01:36.31 | JeffM | someone just added it one day cus they tought it would be fun |
| 01:36.44 | mdskpr | hehe, it SOMETIMES is |
| 01:36.57 | JeffM | it was not thought out well with regards to game design |
| 01:37.02 | JeffM | just "what if tanks could fly" |
| 01:37.23 | mdskpr | well, what about CS then? |
| 01:37.24 | JeffM | I agree that a flag that lets you steer in the air is an advantage |
| 01:37.28 | JeffM | maybe |
| 01:37.44 | JeffM | it's probably simplest to test |
| 01:37.53 | JeffM | that jsut makes it not show on radar right? |
| 01:38.06 | mdskpr | on the field |
| 01:38.11 | JeffM | hmmm |
| 01:38.17 | mdskpr | IB is on the radar |
| 01:38.23 | JeffM | k |
| 01:38.43 | JeffM | not a fan of just blowing up with out noticing why |
| 01:38.49 | JeffM | that's my concern with it |
| 01:39.02 | JeffM | it's deadly on servers that turn off radar |
| 01:39.23 | mdskpr | true...unless the server is overloaded with SE |
| 01:39.34 | mdskpr | but that shows right there it is too powerful |
| 01:39.36 | JeffM | that tells me that it isn't great ballance |
| 01:39.59 | JeffM | it's not that it's too powerful it's just maybe not a good candidate for a standard flag |
| 01:40.16 | JeffM | if/when we get custom flags in maybe it'd be better for something that is tied to specific maps |
| 01:40.35 | mdskpr | sounds good |
| 01:40.45 | JeffM | with the lua system and custom flags it makes that kinda stuff a lot simpler to do as a map/server mod |
| 01:41.12 | blast007 | cow launcher flag! |
| 01:41.31 | BulletCatcher | Run away! |
| 01:41.31 | JeffM | only if we add health so it can do splash damage |
| 01:45.11 | JeffM | hmmmm what to get for dinner.... |
| 01:46.24 | trepan | cow? |
| 01:47.05 | JeffM | had cow for lunch |
| 01:54.55 | CIA-116 | BZFlag: 0375.50.186.241 07http://my.bzflag.org * r7638 10/w/BZFlag_2.3: flags require lots of testing, leave them out for now. move lua up to possible. |
| 01:57.23 | trepan | >> Map geometry changes (requires flag zap zone support or breaks existing servers) << |
| 01:57.37 | trepan | was that the mesh collision fix that I did for 3? |
| 01:57.51 | JeffM | yeah for teleporters |
| 01:58.10 | JeffM | since you made them play nice people can't use the bug they were using to send flags to the origin |
| 01:58.36 | trepan | i wouldn't consider that to be a show stopper |
| 01:58.42 | JeffM | I would |
| 01:58.47 | trepan | trivial to emulate that behaviour |
| 01:59.03 | JeffM | I'd rather fix it properly |
| 01:59.24 | trepan | heh, fixing the tele geo is the proper fix |
| 01:59.31 | JeffM | true |
| 01:59.41 | trepan | the problem lies in those that use the crappy tele geo artifact |
| 01:59.41 | JeffM | also a bit ago you said you'd not have time for anything ;) |
| 02:00.00 | trepan | but the other geo change i was thinking about was the mesh surface collision boolean operator |
| 02:00.25 | trepan | (separate from the 'teleporters-are-all-meshes' thing that I did) |
| 02:00.31 | JeffM | that's fine |
| 02:00.44 | trepan | the surface fix was for the box/mesh/ground teleportation bug |
| 02:00.44 | mdskpr | would that fix the box bumpHeight issue also? |
| 02:01.49 | trepan | JeffM: i may yet decide that I don't have enough time, depends on how next week goes |
| 02:01.55 | JeffM | k |
| 02:02.21 | trepan | although the box/mesh/ground fix is only 1 character :) |
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| 02:04.38 | JeffM | if someone implements this, http://my.bzflag.org/w/V3RCChecklist#Flag_.22pass.22_issues we can do the TP change too |
| 02:05.06 | JeffM | doing it as a zone would work |
| 02:05.24 | JeffM | they'd have to update there maps but then the behavor would be defined and work forevers |
| 02:05.37 | JeffM | anyone have a 32 bit version of windows? |
| 02:05.56 | trepan | the TP change isn't really tied to that, iirc |
| 02:05.59 | mdskpr | i have access to one |
| 02:06.00 | Thumper_ | yes - haven't turn it on in ages |
| 02:06.10 | JeffM | 32 bit ONLY right? |
| 02:06.18 | JeffM | not a 64 it system that can run 32 bit code |
| 02:06.22 | blast007 | JeffM: I do |
| 02:06.24 | Thumper_ | I think so |
| 02:06.26 | mdskpr | yes |
| 02:06.26 | JeffM | run this, http://www.awesomelaser.com/crap/bin_x64.zip |
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| 02:06.32 | JeffM | make sure it dosn't work ;) |
| 02:07.03 | JeffM | trepan, IIRC the problem was that if -fb was on then flags would sit quite nicely on top of your nice manifold teleporters ;) |
| 02:07.38 | trepan | yup, but that's not necessarily a "zone" problem |
| 02:07.45 | JeffM | no it's not |
| 02:07.46 | trepan | esp. if you consider zones to be 2d |
| 02:08.04 | JeffM | my proposal was to use a "zone" (3d volume) in the map to fix it |
| 02:08.12 | JeffM | zone is probalby a bad term |
| 02:08.14 | trepan | either way, backporting the TP->mesh geometry isn't likely to happen |
| 02:08.18 | JeffM | k |
| 02:08.27 | blast007 | JeffM: "not a valid win32 application", so, HUGE SUCCESS! |
| 02:08.34 | JeffM | hooray |
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| 02:18.24 | BulletCatcher | Your IPv6 address makes me hungry, foxkit. |
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| 02:24.04 | JeffM | makes me think ipv6 is not very stable ;) |
| 02:30.19 | CIA-116 | BZFlag: 03McYukon 07http://my.bzflag.org * r7639 10/w/BZFlag_on_IRC: /* IRC Clients */ |
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| 02:35.45 | joevano | uname -a |
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| 02:49.54 | Erroneous | tries a fancy merge |
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| 03:12.14 | CIA-116 | bzflag: 03dtremenak * r21419 10/trunk/bzflag/ (29 files in 12 dirs): Server side scoring, hunter team, and hunter stealth fix, all at once. Merge 2.99 revisions 11968-11969,11969-11970,11971-11974,11983-11984,11997-12001,12004-12005,12206-12207,12208-12209. |
| 03:12.44 | Erroneous | someone should test that :) |
| 03:16.11 | CIA-116 | bzflag: 03dtremenak * r21420 10/trunk/bzflag/ChangeLog: and hit the ChangeLog with those changes |
| 03:19.31 | CIA-116 | BZFlag: 0369.36.85.130 07http://my.bzflag.org * r7640 10/w/BZFlag_2.3: /* Backports */ oops, did that one already |
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| 03:59.20 | CIA-116 | bzflag: 03trepan * r21421 10/trunk/bzflag/src/date/buildDate.cxx: * there can only be one (proto number, fixed the warning) |
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| 04:02.28 | trepan | Erroneous: that doesn't mean that I did any functional testing ;-) |
| 04:02.57 | Erroneous | heh |
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| 04:32.40 | CIA-116 | bzflag: 03bullet_catcher * r21422 10/trunk/bzflag/configure.ac: Protocol bumps require a change to the configure.ac file, too. |
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| 04:41.30 | CIA-116 | bzflag: 03bthansen * r21423 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzfs/commands.cxx: (log message trimmed) |
| 04:41.31 | CIA-116 | bzflag: Only players with POLL permission are eligible to take part in a vote |
| 04:41.31 | CIA-116 | bzflag: A cheat is going around which loads a bunch of fake players on the |
| 04:41.31 | CIA-116 | bzflag: server - if these are valid accounts (but not identified) then they |
| 04:41.31 | CIA-116 | bzflag: artificially increase the number of available players for the poll so |
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| 04:41.31 | CIA-116 | bzflag: that it is impossible to make the poll succeed. This effectively |
| 04:41.31 | CIA-116 | bzflag: makes player initiated polls useless. |
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| 05:18.16 | CIA-116 | bzflag: 03bthansen * r21424 10/trunk/bzflag/ChangeLog: Update Changelog entries for cheat prevention changes |
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| 05:28.51 | CIA-116 | bzflag: 03bthansen * r21425 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzfs/BZWError.cxx: Report errors on stderr |
| 05:29.00 | CIA-116 | bzflag: 03bthansen * r21426 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzfs/CmdLineOptions.cxx: |
| 05:29.00 | CIA-116 | bzflag: Die if we can't parse the configuration file |
| 05:29.00 | CIA-116 | bzflag: There's no point in starting a server on the default port if the user |
| 05:29.00 | CIA-116 | bzflag: blew the commandline options for the -conf file. Just report the |
| 05:29.00 | CIA-116 | bzflag: error and die. |
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