| 00:00.28 | trepan | _radarFlags={none,all,team,super}? |
| 00:11.48 | joevano | blast007: just going by his conversation from last night |
| 00:11.52 | joevano | -22:29:49- : mdskpr_ : JeffM: can I backport my hideradar option? |
| 00:12.17 | blast007 | ah, yeah, that wasn't the exact name |
| 00:12.30 | blast007 | I do like trepan's suggestion though |
| 00:12.43 | joevano | i do too |
| 00:15.09 | trepan | get fancy; write a plugin that changes the _radarFlags var from 'all' to '!G' every 0.5 seconds :) |
| 00:15.11 | blast007 | JeffM: setting the MAX_DT_LIMIT to a high value did make the jumping issue go away |
| 00:19.48 | JeffM | how was setting it to 0.1? |
| 00:24.27 | blast007 | hadn't tried that |
| 00:24.32 | blast007 | will do now |
| 00:33.42 | *** join/#bzflag meem1029 (~meem1029@2001:468:1930:24:7add:8ff:fee3:6a82) |
| 00:39.39 | blast007 | or not. client won't run. |
| 00:39.55 | *** join/#bzflag bryjen_ (~bryjen@76.92.85.169) |
| 00:41.07 | *** mode/#bzflag [+v bryjen] by ChanServ |
| 00:42.13 | blast007 | looks like it's getting stuck in the BackgroundRenderer |
| 00:46.11 | bryjen | whee, more gfx quality level references |
| 00:46.54 | blast007 | the moonSegements value seems to be fubar |
| 00:47.07 | blast007 | or at least, I assume it shouldn't be -2147483648 |
| 00:48.01 | blast007 | it shows as 24 in my config |
| 00:53.42 | blast007 | bryjen: also, I think I was set to use experimental (my quality value is 3) so it makes this unhappy: BZDB.set("quality", configQualityValues[RENDERER.useQuality()]); |
| 00:53.53 | blast007 | since it's out of bounds of that vector |
| 00:54.37 | *** join/#bzflag TD-Linux (~thomas@about/essy/indecisive/TD-Linux) |
| 00:55.04 | bryjen | that'd be bad ;) |
| 00:55.39 | bryjen | there's still lots of if quality >= 3 littered all over too :( |
| 00:55.56 | blast007 | heh |
| 00:56.16 | blast007 | JeffM: do we *have* to remove experimental? ;) |
| 00:56.33 | blast007 | seems like it's not a no-risk change |
| 00:56.41 | blast007 | low-risk* |
| 00:58.03 | bryjen | grr, and some setQuality(3) too |
| 00:58.43 | blast007 | reverting is always an option ;) |
| 00:59.03 | JeffM | it didn;t do anyting different then high |
| 00:59.12 | JeffM | 4 is experimental IIRC |
| 00:59.29 | blast007 | 0 is low, based on that code |
| 00:59.33 | JeffM | ok |
| 00:59.40 | JeffM | then yah I didn't finish |
| 01:00.12 | JeffM | revert if you want, I'll fix it proper later |
| 01:00.14 | bryjen | 0-3 low,med,hi,exp |
| 01:00.56 | JeffM | I can tie new shots to exp |
| 01:01.07 | bryjen | i've been trying to clean it up, but we're finding it peppered though out |
| 01:01.19 | JeffM | then revert it |
| 01:01.35 | JeffM | just don't revert the fast config stuff |
| 01:04.35 | JeffM | I thought high was 3 so I was wrong about it not doing much |
| 01:09.03 | blast007 | JeffM: oh, and I fixed scoring |
| 01:09.22 | blast007 | it was using the local player's score when calculating the scores of other people ;) |
| 01:09.58 | blast007 | bryjen: I reverted the three revisions locally here, and am building to see if it worked |
| 01:17.17 | JeffM | welp... didn't get raptured... |
| 01:27.14 | PlasticTank | That's too bad, i prepared for it |
| 01:27.15 | PlasticTank | http://gizmodo.com/5803904/all-the-essential-gear-you-need-for-the-rapture |
| 01:29.50 | JeffM | did you get the big friggin axe cus that thing is awesome |
| 01:29.59 | PlasticTank | Hell yea! |
| 01:30.04 | PlasticTank | (no pun intended) |
| 01:35.43 | CIA-114 | BZFlag: 03blast007 * r21612 10/trunk/bzflag/src/ (6 files in 2 dirs): Revert the attempted removal of the experimental quality mode (reverted r21601, r21609, and r21611) |
| 01:38.22 | JeffM | I'll leave it in but I may turn on some more stuff for high:) |
| 01:38.31 | JeffM | then I'll tie the new shots to exp |
| 01:41.06 | PlasticTank | <3 Experimental setting |
| 01:41.53 | *** join/#bzflag WhiteCalf (MK@whitecalf.net) |
| 02:03.25 | bryjen | still having lag/jitter spikes |
| 02:44.23 | CIA-114 | BZFlag: 03blast007 * r21613 10/trunk/bzflag/ (10 files in 5 dirs): Add a message type byte for MsgMessage. The /me action messages are no longer a formatting trick. (Backported from r19833) |
| 02:59.57 | CIA-114 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * r21614 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzflag/playing.h: better max dt |
| 03:00.36 | JeffM | that may help bryjen |
| 03:00.39 | blast007 | JeffM: is the reall problem the max dt value, or is there some issue in the segmentation code itself? |
| 03:00.46 | blast007 | real* |
| 03:01.04 | JeffM | the real problem is in the physics code |
| 03:01.12 | JeffM | the segmentation is a hack bandaid |
| 03:01.17 | blast007 | :) |
| 03:03.01 | JeffM | trepan said he knew what the F5 issue was, I wonder if it just it can be fixed (with out redoing all of sim) |
| 03:03.09 | JeffM | then we take out the segmenter |
| 03:03.22 | trepan | DTRemenak: i have bzfs premake4'ing :) it ain't pretty, but it's a start |
| 03:03.27 | JeffM | tho now I wonder if the segmenter was the main jitter problem in 3.0 |
| 03:03.41 | blast007 | hmm |
| 03:04.14 | trepan | the F5 issue is just what you think it is, a lack of interframe consistency |
| 03:04.37 | trepan | but one odd part of the problem is that the inMovingBox calls only handle Z deltas |
| 03:05.10 | trepan | (besides the fact that the binary search (sorta) pattern in LocalPlayer.cpp can skip over obstacles) |
| 03:05.51 | JeffM | what do you think is an acceptable hacky fix? segment or do something else? |
| 03:06.12 | trepan | a quick ray test can solve the search problem, but it's useless if the obstacle hit is missed by inMovingBox in the first |
| 03:06.16 | trepan | place* |
| 03:06.36 | trepan | JeffM: dunno, whatever works best for you |
| 03:07.28 | JeffM | yeah sounds like segmentation is the more robust fix for the minium code changes. |
| 03:08.07 | JeffM | we'll have to make sure a full sim rewrite is on the roadmap |
| 03:09.04 | trepan | that's one of my 3.0 items (but in a round-about way) |
| 03:09.10 | JeffM | heh |
| 03:09.46 | trepan | i wouldn't call it a full rewrite, but everything becomes a mesh (most already are), and the collision handling in LocalPlayer.cpp gets gutted |
| 03:10.04 | JeffM | comonize to better code |
| 03:10.10 | JeffM | close enough :) |
| 03:10.12 | trepan | already have a nice point-in-polyhedron done |
| 03:10.17 | trepan | bye bye inside/outside |
| 03:10.44 | trepan | and tank rotation vs. mesh faces needs to be redone, tank corners go through faces a.t.m. |
| 03:11.18 | trepan | all easy to do, as long as you accept that LocalPlayer.cpp needs to be gutted :) |
| 03:12.01 | JeffM | I accept that all files should be guttet |
| 03:12.38 | trepan | fwiw, it looks like that's my biggest item -- besides fixing whatever DTR tells me needs doing |
| 03:12.58 | JeffM | fun |
| 03:13.18 | JeffM | so you think it's feasable to still get v3 into another release |
| 03:13.27 | JeffM | not keep going from 2.4? |
| 03:13.59 | trepan | too hard to backport everything from 2.99 |
| 03:14.07 | trepan | release 2.4, then dump it |
| 03:14.14 | JeffM | fair nuf |
| 03:14.28 | trepan | pick up a few items to patch into 3.0 |
| 03:14.42 | trepan | that's just my opinion though, 3.0 might still fall flat |
| 03:14.55 | JeffM | could but I agree it's a simpler track |
| 03:15.10 | *** join/#bzflag TD-Linux (~thomas@about/essy/indecisive/TD-Linux) |
| 03:15.23 | trepan | it looks like you might at least get an autotools/MSVC-hardcoded replacement from it :) |
| 03:15.42 | trepan | premake rocks, very simple config files |
| 03:16.00 | JeffM | does it generate vc projects or just call msbuild? |
| 03:17.00 | trepan | http://industriousone.com/what-premake -- vc files |
| 03:17.18 | trepan | just gen'ed some vs2010 files to test it |
| 03:17.25 | JeffM | is it cmake with less suck? |
| 03:17.31 | trepan | yup |
| 03:17.36 | JeffM | cool |
| 03:17.53 | JeffM | I liked the idea of cmake but a lot people made bad implemntations |
| 03:17.55 | trepan | but also less features -- i'm going to have to low-level code some of the config tests |
| 03:18.20 | trepan | ex: there's no gettypesize('int') type of call |
| 03:18.54 | trepan | of going to compile some .c using the build compiler, and have it dump out a .h file |
| 03:19.17 | JeffM | good thing the configs are the same on winders |
| 03:19.18 | trepan | sort of what autotools does, but without the 4 levels of indirection |
| 03:20.03 | trepan | talked to DTR about winders, sounds like I can use the MSVC tools to build the config test .c files |
| 03:20.16 | trepan | no hardcoded stuffs, all on the fly, and using a common pattern |
| 03:20.21 | JeffM | ahh |
| 03:20.35 | JeffM | well it'll never change for the compiler, regardless of installed system |
| 03:20.53 | JeffM | I just hope it can do all the postbuild stuff |
| 03:21.04 | trepan | which is what? |
| 03:21.14 | trepan | nsis, that kind of thing? |
| 03:21.14 | JeffM | copy steps |
| 03:21.16 | JeffM | no |
| 03:21.22 | JeffM | building up the bin dir |
| 03:21.31 | JeffM | tho there are ways to do it with out copy steps |
| 03:21.38 | trepan | is that part of what MSVC does? |
| 03:21.57 | trepan | as guided by the vc project files? |
| 03:21.59 | JeffM | it dosn't by default I set it up to build the bin dir |
| 03:22.17 | JeffM | yeah it can do it all, it has a bunch of scripting stuff |
| 03:23.02 | JeffM | I have it now putting the temp files into a folder for each project /platform |
| 03:23.50 | trepan | premake4 has a objdir(<name>) command |
| 03:24.06 | trepan | already using it to move the .o files into .obj/ dirs |
| 03:24.17 | trepan | (eases word complete for file names :) |
| 03:24.22 | trepan | *completiony |
| 03:24.27 | JeffM | I'd think you'd want to try and make both platform use similar folders |
| 03:25.08 | JeffM | but I'm sure it can all be worked out |
| 03:25.21 | trepan | it sounds like it'll do whatever you're talking about, it has 'solutions', 'configurations', and 'projects' |
| 03:25.47 | JeffM | fair nuf |
| 03:38.01 | trepan | looking at the libplatform.vcxproj, it looks like it's already setup to do what you are talking about, dumping files into .obj/debug and .obj/release (the same as for the gmake files) |
| 03:38.35 | trepan | well, .obj\debug and .obj\release :) |
| 03:39.08 | JeffM | 2.99's is crap |
| 03:39.16 | JeffM | 2.3's is how I'd like to set it up |
| 03:39.41 | JeffM | but it's not too far off |
| 03:39.57 | JeffM | just different folders |
| 03:40.09 | trepan | i'll probably commit some premake4 stuff within the next couple of days, you can see what you think of the MSVC files it creates |
| 03:40.26 | JeffM | k |
| 04:15.51 | a_meteorite | Premake is nice |
| 04:15.55 | *** join/#bzflag TimRiker (timr@bzflag/projectlead/TimRiker) |
| 04:15.55 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o TimRiker] by ChanServ |
| 04:22.29 | blast007 | JeffM: the "message protection" task is making sure that people can't sent specific message types until they've fully joined? |
| 04:26.16 | blast007 | cuz if so, I think that's already covered. There's code in the handleCommand function in bzfs.cxx that has a whitelist of message types that are allowed prior to being completely added |
| 04:56.56 | CIA-114 | BZFlag: 03trepan * r21615 10/branches/experimental/v2_99continuing/bzflag/ (DEVINFO src/game/GameTime.cpp src/mediafile/PNGImageFile.cpp): * clear out the cruft, misc. minor nothings |
| 06:05.15 | JeffM | blast007: fair nuf |
| 06:05.18 | JeffM | we just had to make sure |
| 06:10.18 | *** join/#bzflag Marzipan- (~Marzipan@p5B225AFE.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 06:11.53 | *** join/#bzflag Marzipan (~Marzipan@bzflag/player/Marzipan) |
| 06:54.30 | *** join/#bzflag Mari_ (~mari@59x158x28x144.ap59.ftth.ucom.ne.jp) |
| 07:15.11 | *** join/#bzflag L4m3r (~l4m3r@bzflag/developer/L4m3r) |
| 07:15.11 | *** mode/#bzflag [+v L4m3r] by ChanServ |
| 08:51.07 | *** join/#bzflag Zac_ (ca59b013@gateway/web/freenode/ip.202.89.176.19) |
| 08:58.46 | *** join/#bzflag Upsetter (~er@88.130.166.141) |
| 09:46.46 | *** join/#bzflag Moiree (~moiree@dslb-084-059-033-129.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 10:13.30 | Zac_ | which colors coincide with teams when making a base? |
| 10:13.43 | *** join/#bzflag Gnurdux (~gnurdux@c-24-6-185-47.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 10:13.48 | Zac_ | if i have green vs blue, which base colours do i select? |
| 10:54.30 | Moiree | ... |
| 11:00.49 | brad | ~bzmp |
| 11:00.49 | ibot | rogue,red,green,blue,purple,observer |
| 11:55.44 | Zac_ | also, whats the best combination of diffuse to create the best purple?? |
| 11:56.03 | Zac_ | using the diffuse for the front door of the house, and i want it to be purple |
| 11:56.15 | Zac_ | but im getting a weird reddy purple |
| 12:02.16 | Zac_ | reddish* |
| 12:41.44 | *** join/#bzflag mdskpr_ (~mdskpr@108.25.108.121) |
| 12:50.36 | trepan | 'diffuse purple' ? |
| 12:57.57 | Zac_ | OHH |
| 12:58.03 | Zac_ | cool |
| 12:58.04 | Zac_ | thx |
| 12:59.31 | trepan | there's a list of common color names you can use in the source code, in src/common/ParseColor.cpp |
| 13:00.02 | trepan | (it's based on X11's rgb.txt) |
| 13:00.53 | Zac_ | thanks |
| 14:11.08 | delusional | you can also open the wiki and type "color" into the search box |
| 14:14.41 | *** join/#bzflag bier|tp (~bier@p54A5A2E9.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 14:15.29 | *** join/#bzflag bier (~bier@p54A5A2E9.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 14:52.52 | *** join/#bzflag bier|tp (~bier@p54A5A2E9.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 15:36.58 | *** join/#bzflag Guest15721 (~chatzilla@58-7-128-2.dyn.iinet.net.au) |
| 15:40.22 | *** part/#bzflag Guest15721 (~chatzilla@58-7-128-2.dyn.iinet.net.au) |
| 15:41.11 | *** join/#bzflag Was_ein (~chatzilla@58-7-128-2.dyn.iinet.net.au) |
| 15:47.20 | Was_ein | Hi, I am currently running from 203.215.5.244 which is apparently an address that is permanently banned from my.bzflag.org/bb. Is there anyone who can help with that? |
| 15:48.53 | blast007 | yeah, let me check |
| 15:49.45 | Was_ein | Reason is "Spam". The address range is iinet.net.au |
| 15:52.39 | blast007 | actually your IP starts with 58. |
| 15:52.46 | blast007 | in any case, you should be able to get on now |
| 15:53.17 | Was_ein | oh sorry you are right |
| 15:53.31 | Was_ein | that was my gateway. thanks though |
| 15:53.34 | blast007 | :) |
| 15:54.58 | Was_ein | I am trying to reclaim my global sig "ein" which seems to be stolen in a way by somebody who has changed the password. Is there a limit on how long one can hold an account without using it? |
| 15:56.46 | Was_ein | actually maybe the block of the IP was the problem. It just let me log in :) |
| 15:59.24 | Was_ein | thanks blast, all good now. |
| 16:13.34 | blast007 | there was a forum upgrade a year or so ago that broke authentication in the game, and the fix was to log into the forum once - so maybe that was the problem :) |
| 16:29.02 | *** join/#bzflag JeffM (~JeffM@unaffiliated/jeffm2501) |
| 16:29.02 | *** mode/#bzflag [+v JeffM] by ChanServ |
| 16:53.10 | CIA-114 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r21616 10/trunk/bzflag/src/ (8 files in 2 dirs): |
| 16:53.10 | CIA-114 | BZFlag: make high quality have some of the cool stuff that experimental and give medium a small bump up. didn't change low. |
| 16:53.10 | CIA-114 | BZFlag: add minimum frame rate to frame limiter, it's not supposed to be a lag maker. |
| 17:16.19 | *** join/#bzflag ein (~chatzilla@58-7-128-2.dyn.iinet.net.au) |
| 17:33.26 | CIA-114 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r21617 10/trunk/bzflag/include/common.h: some maths from 2.99 for everyone to use |
| 17:48.47 | *** join/#bzflag Anxuiz (~Anxuiz@unaffiliated/anxuiz) |
| 18:28.31 | JeffM | anyone got a public server up with SB and L? |
| 18:37.32 | *** join/#bzflag bryjen (~bryjen@76.92.85.169) |
| 18:37.32 | *** mode/#bzflag [+v bryjen] by ChanServ |
| 18:41.23 | *** join/#bzflag Gnurdux (~gnurdux@c-24-6-185-47.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 18:43.48 | CIA-114 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r21618 10/trunk/bzflag/ (12 files in 3 dirs): |
| 18:43.48 | CIA-114 | BZFlag: use geolaser for thief and laser in experimental |
| 18:43.48 | CIA-114 | BZFlag: use blended shot tails for bolts in experimental |
| 18:43.48 | CIA-114 | BZFlag: use geobolt for super bullet in experimental |
| 18:44.04 | JeffM | that combo actualy looks really cool |
| 18:44.52 | JeffM | the only other thing I'd change would be to make GM more distingive |
| 19:12.42 | CIA-114 | BZFlag: 03bryjen * r21619 10/trunk/bzflag/ (include/BoltSceneNode.h src/geometry/BoltSceneNode.cxx): initialization order. ws. |
| 19:15.47 | JeffM | thanks |
| 19:40.41 | JeffM | hmmm.. maybe a simple missle, http://www.awesomelaser.com/tmp/missile.png |
| 19:41.46 | blast007 | that looks more like it would take out the entire map... ;) |
| 19:41.56 | JeffM | that's zoomed in :) |
| 19:42.10 | JeffM | and if I make it commically big it will be easier to see |
| 19:42.29 | JeffM | think it's worth it? |
| 19:42.38 | blast007 | shrugs |
| 19:42.46 | JeffM | geo-gm looks like a sperm |
| 19:42.46 | blast007 | I remember your old 3D missile patch |
| 19:42.56 | blast007 | I had that in BZFlag XL |
| 19:42.57 | JeffM | yeah most of it's guts are in cus of geobolt |
| 19:43.09 | JeffM | I'd just have to change it to draw a model for GM |
| 19:44.04 | JeffM | I could even hardcode the geo, it's just some hexes with colors |
| 19:44.32 | JeffM | I will ponder as I go to the gym |
| 19:44.39 | JeffM | that and some ideas for bases :) |
| 19:46.30 | mrapple | i get compile errors with the latest commit |
| 19:46.51 | mrapple | http://pastebin.com/U1yi5EYf |
| 19:49.42 | McSpider | mrapple, install c-ares |
| 19:50.12 | mrapple | is that available through brew? |
| 19:50.17 | McSpider | yep |
| 19:50.19 | mrapple | great |
| 19:51.21 | brad | has the config path changed on windows? |
| 19:51.50 | brad | it doesn't seem to be taking notice of C:\Users\username\Documents\My BZFlag Files\2.4 |
| 19:52.10 | brad | I swear it was using that folder yesterday :p |
| 19:52.58 | blast007 | brad: yes, it changed |
| 19:53.03 | blast007 | it's in app data now |
| 19:53.24 | blast007 | supposedly |
| 19:53.48 | blast007 | under the local app data |
| 19:53.51 | brad | oh, thx |
| 19:54.24 | brad | app data is a hidden folder right? |
| 19:54.30 | blast007 | so on 7, it's C:\Users\User\AppData\Local\BZFlag and on XP it's C:\Documents and Settings\User\Local Settings\Aplication Data\BZFlag |
| 19:54.42 | blast007 | yah |
| 19:54.51 | brad | thx, I see it |
| 19:55.00 | blast007 | you can just go to %LOCALAPPDATA%\BZFlag |
| 19:55.21 | brad | what was the reason for that change? editing config "manually" is quite common no? |
| 19:55.42 | blast007 | yes, but this is the *proper* location, since it's not documents |
| 19:56.14 | brad | alright...will have to make a shortcut:D |
| 19:56.18 | blast007 | it was probably just done that way since we used to support Windows 9x/Me which were different |
| 19:56.32 | brad | ah |
| 20:04.45 | *** part/#bzflag Upsetter (~er@88.130.166.141) |
| 20:10.51 | mdskpr_ | JeffM: ../../include/SceneRenderer.h:157: error: type qualifiers ignored on function return type |
| 20:13.42 | CIA-114 | BZFlag: 03Brad 07http://my.bzflag.org * r7666 10/w/Config_File: Add info on 2.3 config file location |
| 20:48.18 | Moiree | blast: You sure that new plugin on WM2.3 is working correctly? |
| 20:49.55 | blast007 | the one that kills your team if you die after recently (within the last few seconds) holding geno? |
| 20:50.36 | Moiree | Yes, exactly. You even die, if not holding G anylonger. |
| 20:50.43 | blast007 | right |
| 20:50.53 | blast007 | that's how it's supposed to work |
| 20:51.06 | Moiree | And it says that everyone on the team were holding G |
| 20:52.15 | Moiree | But then it might work correctly, but the message is weird. |
| 20:52.23 | blast007 | there's a one second delay after dropping the flag |
| 20:52.49 | Moiree | Okay for me. Everbody else moaning :P |
| 20:53.18 | blast007 | it's the rapture!! |
| 20:53.24 | Moiree | teehee |
| 20:53.29 | blast007 | the geno gods are angry!! |
| 21:02.47 | *** join/#bzflag eTangenT (~lamer@c-24-8-181-169.hsd1.co.comcast.net) |
| 21:21.16 | Moiree | Yeah, but it does not help against noobs jumping at G |
| 21:53.29 | *** join/#bzflag Gnurdux (~gnurdux@c-24-6-185-47.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 21:56.14 | *** join/#bzflag sigonasr2 (sigonasr2@ip68-0-162-159.tc.ph.cox.net) |
| 22:42.11 | *** join/#bzflag JeffM (~Jeff@unaffiliated/jeffm2501) |
| 22:42.11 | *** mode/#bzflag [+v JeffM] by ChanServ |
| 22:59.32 | *** join/#bzflag Pimpi (~frank@gondolin.pimpi.org) |
| 23:00.22 | *** join/#bzflag Pimpinella (~frank@gondolin.pimpi.org) |
| 23:20.02 | *** join/#bzflag AAA_awright (~a3@ip24-251-157-63.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 23:26.19 | *** join/#bzflag QuantumBeep (~quantumbe@cpe-76-186-97-233.tx.res.rr.com) |
| 23:26.27 | *** join/#bzflag QBeep (~quantumbe@cpe-76-186-97-233.tx.res.rr.com) |
| 23:46.11 | *** join/#bzflag TD-Linux (~thomas@about/essy/indecisive/TD-Linux) |
| 23:59.02 | CIA-114 | BZFlag: 0367.248.158.215 07http://my.bzflag.org * r7667 10/w/BZFS: |
