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| 01:46.28 | Constitution | ~allejo++ |
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| 12:01.14 | Thumper_ | ~allejo++ |
| 12:01.52 | cygal | what did he do? |
| 12:06.36 | Thumper_ | updated a bunch of plugins to the 2.4 API for me |
| 12:08.30 | cygal | ~allejo++ |
| 12:08.32 | cygal | :) |
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| 14:00.58 | joevano | wiki unreachable to anyone else? are they moving the server now? |
| 14:06.24 | Thumper_ | joevano: wiki is unreachable for me too |
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| 15:02.53 | joevano | taking a long time to move that server if that is it... |
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| 15:23.41 | BulletCatcher | We moved some servers yesterday at work. |
| 15:23.43 | BulletCatcher | Racks and rails don't always fit well, and may take extra time to pound into place. |
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| 15:33.26 | blast007 | I hope they're not pounding the server into place ;) |
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| 16:42.23 | joevano | JeffM: is there an ETA on the server? |
| 16:42.59 | JeffM | I just sent the ticket in |
| 16:43.08 | JeffM | it was suposed to be done last night |
| 16:43.08 | joevano | k |
| 16:44.05 | joevano | good news is no wiki spam overnight! |
| 16:44.09 | JeffM | true |
| 16:44.26 | JeffM | I am curious if brlcad's server got moved too |
| 16:44.56 | JeffM | I hope it's just routing issues |
| 16:45.12 | JeffM | cus they said they would make sure each machine comes back up after they move it |
| 16:45.23 | JeffM | and if it didn't I assumed they'd let me know |
| 16:48.34 | JeffM | we are back |
| 16:49.25 | JeffM | had to be something easy like a router for it to only take that long |
| 16:52.23 | joevano | yep |
| 16:52.34 | joevano | or power ;-) |
| 16:52.56 | BulletCatcher | It is answering pings now. |
| 16:53.35 | joevano | power : 12:58:35 up 7 min, |
| 16:54.22 | BulletCatcher | BZ has 534 days of uptime. |
| 17:00.27 | JeffM | no it came back in less time then it takes to boot |
| 17:00.33 | JeffM | so it had to be on |
| 17:00.40 | JeffM | but maybe |
| 17:00.58 | JeffM | yeah we were in a different building then .bz so maybe they won't get moved |
| 17:02.39 | JeffM | they said "We will be physically moving your server from its current location to a new upgraded rack. " in the origonal email |
| 17:04.14 | JeffM | so what is next to move? |
| 17:04.19 | blast007 | main site |
| 17:04.35 | blast007 | think I got as far as "create database" |
| 17:04.37 | JeffM | then the rest is all things tied to auth right? and they have to go together |
| 17:04.39 | JeffM | heh |
| 17:04.57 | blast007 | pretty much, yeah |
| 17:05.26 | blast007 | do we want to decomission the stats site? |
| 17:05.44 | JeffM | I think so |
| 17:05.55 | JeffM | it'll be motivation to get push stats working |
| 17:05.59 | JeffM | and we know we need motivation |
| 17:05.59 | blast007 | yup |
| 17:06.12 | blast007 | it doesn't query 2.4 servers anyway ;) |
| 17:06.48 | JeffM | yeah, we can even yank it now and replace it with a service unavailable page with a redirect link to strayer |
| 17:07.21 | blast007 | once I move the main site over, I'll update the MOTD to do the upgrade prompt for Windows users |
| 17:07.28 | JeffM | ok |
| 17:07.52 | JeffM | what is it going to take to run an apt repo here? |
| 17:07.59 | blast007 | not sure |
| 17:08.05 | blast007 | tim would know more about that |
| 17:08.07 | JeffM | anyone want to be in charge of that? |
| 17:08.29 | JeffM | BulletCatcher, can we set up a yum repo too? |
| 17:08.43 | blast007 | I've got a Ubuntu VM we can toy around on |
| 17:09.03 | blast007 | and I even have it with a snapshot to a clean install, so we can easily roll it back to that point :) |
| 17:15.15 | joevano | blast007: this is old but at least promising http://www.jejik.com/articles/2006/09/setting_up_and_managing_an_apt_repository_with_reprepro/ |
| 17:15.37 | JeffM | TimRiker, can we get apt.bzflag.org as a domain? |
| 17:15.54 | JeffM | looks like joevano wants to set up the repo :) |
| 17:16.02 | blast007 | hehe |
| 17:16.44 | JeffM | I have an ubuntu machine downstairs too, the one we use for our CNC machine |
| 17:19.29 | blast007 | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocalAptGetRepository and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PbuilderHowto might be more recent info |
| 17:26.00 | blast007 | this also looks like it would be helpful: http://www.tolaris.com/2009/03/31/backporting-debian-packages-with-pbuilder/ |
| 17:28.40 | joevano | JeffM: I'm on the repo... who is making the packages ;-) |
| 17:31.19 | JeffM | that I don' tknow |
| 17:31.35 | JeffM | tho that machine is debian so it can make packages |
| 17:32.45 | blast007 | I'd rather not have it on the same system |
| 17:32.56 | blast007 | keep it separated, and on a "clean" system |
| 17:33.01 | JeffM | ok |
| 17:33.07 | JeffM | then someone will have to build em |
| 17:33.14 | blast007 | pbuilder does do stuff in a chroot, but I'd jsut rather it that way |
| 17:33.50 | blast007 | my VM is running Ubuntu 10.04 LTS 64-bit, so it should be able to build any of the packages |
| 17:34.12 | JeffM | fair nuf |
| 17:34.33 | blast007 | only gave it 512MB of RAM though, iirc - the host only has 2GB total |
| 17:34.49 | blast007 | should be enough though |
| 17:35.10 | blast007 | I'll have to check on drive space to see if there's enough |
| 17:37.43 | BulletCatcher | A yum repo is doable, but it may be just as easy to provide instructions for downloading the RPM and doing a "yum localinstall" as it would be for configuring the repo. |
| 17:43.54 | BulletCatcher | I suggest software.bzflag.org as a more general case than apt.bzflag.org . |
| 17:52.26 | JeffM | ok |
| 17:52.44 | JeffM | apt will work from a sub dir? |
| 17:52.53 | JeffM | so we can do like downloads.bzflag.org/apt/ |
| 17:53.04 | JeffM | and we can just merge it in with the beta stuff we have |
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| 18:31.36 | brlcad | yes, mine was moved too, but only down for a couple minutes (and that was Sunday) |
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| 19:24.10 | JeffM | cool |
| 19:24.21 | JeffM | so they remmemberd to push your power button brlcad ;) |
| 19:29.47 | TimRiker | ~nslookup apt.lds.org |
| 19:29.52 | TimRiker | ~nslookup apt.bzflag.org |
| 19:29.55 | TimRiker | heh.. work. |
| 19:30.38 | TimRiker | what about dl.bzflag.org ? |
| 19:30.47 | JeffM | we were talking about that after I asked |
| 19:30.55 | JeffM | downloads.bzflag.org would be best |
| 19:31.02 | JeffM | or software |
| 19:31.22 | JeffM | I pondered, get.bzflag.org |
| 19:31.53 | JeffM | then we can roll our beta downloads, and apt/yum/gentoo packages into it |
| 19:32.01 | JeffM | if we move off SF we can also have it list mirrors |
| 19:32.06 | TimRiker | I added apt.. happy to convert to something else. I like short names. get, dl both sound nice, but software or download would be fine with me too. |
| 19:32.10 | JeffM | or make it a gateway to a CDS |
| 19:32.32 | JeffM | joevano is going to see what we have to do to set up the apt repo |
| 19:33.27 | TimRiker | yeah, been slowly working towards that on xmission, but not there yet. anyone else is welcome to work on it. I'm happy to pass on my current pbuilder steps. |
| 19:35.01 | TimRiker | ff uses download.mozilla.org (note download, not downloads) |
| 19:36.08 | JeffM | I'd be ok with that |
| 19:36.11 | TimRiker | libreoffice is also download.df.o not downloads |
| 19:36.36 | JeffM | I tend to put the s in cus there is more then one download ;) |
| 19:36.47 | TimRiker | so, remove apt and add download? anyone objecting? |
| 19:36.54 | JeffM | go for it |
| 19:37.16 | JeffM | we can put the apt repo in a subdir right? like download.bzflag.org/apt/ right? |
| 19:37.23 | TimRiker | yes |
| 19:37.26 | JeffM | cool |
| 19:37.36 | JeffM | then we can do beta, yum, gentoo and all the others the same way |
| 19:37.44 | TimRiker | nods |
| 19:38.05 | JeffM | probalby should do apt-release and apt-beta as dirs then so we can have repos for beta releases |
| 19:38.05 | TimRiker | images could be there too if we setup a CDS sometime. |
| 19:38.21 | JeffM | yeah, images have been moved over to the new server |
| 19:38.27 | JeffM | so we can have it redirect as needed |
| 19:38.31 | JeffM | or pull from wherever |
| 19:38.48 | TimRiker | does the client handle a redirect? don't think I've ever tested that. |
| 19:38.55 | JeffM | not sure |
| 19:39.00 | JeffM | I would hope curl could do it |
| 19:39.01 | TimRiker | should with curl, but testing would be good. :) |
| 19:39.07 | JeffM | otherwise what is the point of having curl |
| 19:39.19 | TimRiker | well, there might be a setting needed |
| 19:39.23 | JeffM | true |
| 19:39.43 | TimRiker | ~nslookup apt.bzflag.org |
| 19:39.49 | TimRiker | ~nslookup download.bzflag.org |
| 19:40.20 | JeffM | should make the news site downlow.bzflag.org ;) |
| 19:41.32 | TimRiker | heh with a cname of lowdown |
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| 20:04.10 | JeffM | ok, vhost is done |
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| 21:20.43 | joevano | alright.. headed to the board meeting at work to ask for $1.5M for IT projects... will work on an apt repo tomorrow |
| 21:24.31 | JeffM | good luck |
| 21:27.28 | joevano | thanks... should be a slam dunk, but... |
| 21:27.45 | JeffM | just pray nobody says "In this economy" |
| 21:28.31 | joevano | actually had our best year ever, so that shouldn't come up... we excel when everyone is depressed :-) |
| 21:28.39 | JeffM | indeed |
| 21:28.51 | JeffM | "Gimme tha cash!" |
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| 21:36.32 | spldart | That's a nice hat. |
| 21:36.43 | JeffM | jooo like it! |
| 21:37.01 | JeffM | best movie evers |
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