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| 17:20.12 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03bullet_catcher * r22107 10/trunk/bzflag/man/bzflag.6.in: |
| 17:20.12 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: Add information about the following command line options: |
| 17:20.12 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: -badwords -date -help -motd -nomotd -notime -time -zoom |
| 17:22.29 | blast007 | what does -zoom even do? seems like it just breaks the graphics ;) |
| 17:23.11 | BulletCatcher | It is supposed to magnify the view out the window. |
| 17:23.14 | BulletCatcher | I didn't actually test it. :-p |
| 17:23.23 | blast007 | for me it just blurs the graphics and makes it flicker |
| 17:23.57 | blast007 | and I can't see a use for that feature anyway :) |
| 17:24.25 | BulletCatcher | It might be useful on a long range laser sniping map like Future Castle. |
| 17:24.43 | blast007 | but it's stuck on that mode the entire time you play |
| 17:24.54 | JeffM | I belive it draws it by doubling the pixels not zooming the view |
| 17:25.01 | JeffM | it may not work on all cards |
| 17:25.05 | blast007 | k |
| 17:25.29 | blast007 | doesn't on my Intel Extreme(ly Crap) Graphics |
| 17:25.31 | JeffM | if does it with setpixels |
| 17:27.20 | JeffM | yeah it's not going to work well it calls, glCopyPixels |
| 17:27.26 | JeffM | the slowest operation that OpenGL has |
| 17:27.54 | JeffM | it looksl like someone thought it would be faster to pixel double the image on slow systems |
| 17:28.38 | JeffM | better to lower the FOV for a real zoom |
| 17:28.51 | BulletCatcher | We already have binoculars for that. |
| 17:28.59 | JeffM | exactly |
| 17:29.05 | JeffM | this is trying to do the same thing |
| 17:29.08 | JeffM | I would remove it |
| 17:29.17 | JeffM | in a bad way |
| 17:30.03 | JeffM | you could also just set the resolution lower in fullscreen and get the same "pixel savings" |
| 17:31.06 | BulletCatcher | It seems like an option that could have made sense 15 years ago, but not with modern hardware. |
| 17:31.30 | JeffM | even then copyPixels was slow |
| 17:31.40 | JeffM | the GL spec never gives an app direct access to the frame buffer |
| 17:32.04 | JeffM | there has beena long tradition of people usng copypixels because they don't usnerstand this :) |
| 17:32.37 | JeffM | but yes, it does not make sense on any hardware made in the last 10-12 years |
| 17:32.57 | JeffM | it may have worked on an SGI if they accelerated copyPixels |
| 17:33.28 | JeffM | but I've never heard of an accelerated version of it on a PC class card or a software implementation |
| 17:34.22 | JeffM | in every GL class or tutorial I've seen/taken glCopyPixels is in the list of "Never call these" functions |
| 17:34.58 | JeffM | unless you are doing a screenshot to a texture for some effect setup |
| 17:35.26 | JeffM | nowadays you'd do this with a shader |
| 17:35.33 | JeffM | do pixel doubling on output |
| 17:36.50 | BulletCatcher | Another problem: the center point when zoomed is above the horizon, making it completely useless for seeing the playing field. |
| 17:37.22 | JeffM | you want to yank it or do you want met to? |
| 17:37.54 | BulletCatcher | I'll do it. Need to remove it from existing config files, too. |
| 17:39.12 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03bullet_catcher * r22108 10/trunk/bzflag/man/bzflag.6.in: spelling |
| 17:39.59 | JeffM | it's rather involved, there is stuff in mainwindow |
| 17:40.26 | BulletCatcher | Then it will be a learning experience for me. :-) |
| 17:40.32 | JeffM | k |
| 17:40.47 | JeffM | there were some files missing from the zip source archive that windows needed |
| 17:40.53 | JeffM | I think I added them right |
| 17:41.32 | BulletCatcher | If there is a problem there I'll catch it when I rebuild. |
| 17:42.12 | JeffM | at some point I'd like someone to make me a zip from trunk so I can see if anything else is missing/misconfigured |
| 17:42.20 | JeffM | is there a configure step for ares? |
| 17:42.28 | BulletCatcher | Yes. |
| 17:42.47 | JeffM | does it generate or modify any files that are in the source zip? |
| 17:43.13 | BulletCatcher | It will generate Makefile.in files. |
| 17:43.23 | JeffM | will it generate ares_build.h ? |
| 17:43.51 | JeffM | I think there is an issue with making the windows zip file on linux from a linux config step |
| 17:44.03 | JeffM | you get a linux style ares_build.h in the ares include dirs |
| 17:44.13 | JeffM | so it's picked up before the one for windows |
| 17:44.26 | JeffM | and so it tries to include unix socket stuff |
| 17:45.46 | BulletCatcher | The distributed zip file should only have bzflag-2.4.0/src/other/ares/ares_config.h.in in it. |
| 17:46.06 | BulletCatcher | ares_config.h would then be created by configure. |
| 17:46.12 | JeffM | ok so we would not include any configure specifc files |
| 17:46.12 | JeffM | good |
| 17:48.52 | JeffM | the zip file has ares_build.h and ares_build.h.in |
| 17:49.03 | JeffM | the svn only has ares_build.h.in |
| 17:49.10 | JeffM | so the configured file is getting in there |
| 17:51.29 | BulletCatcher | You typed ares_build, I typed ares_config. My mistake. |
| 17:51.35 | JeffM | heh |
| 17:51.51 | BulletCatcher | You are correct about ares_build. |
| 17:52.12 | JeffM | that file causes the windows build to not work |
| 17:52.48 | BulletCatcher | It is time to see what we did in 2.99. |
| 17:53.14 | JeffM | if it has to be there, let me know cus I may be able to work around it by changing some search paths |
| 17:57.03 | BulletCatcher | 2.99 has MSVC/build/ares_build.h |
| 17:59.14 | JeffM | then the zip files we never made for the 3.0 release that never happened would have not worked on windows ;) |
| 17:59.30 | BulletCatcher | :-p |
| 18:00.51 | JeffM | as I said I can work arround it, but really I don't think we should be putting system specific files in the distro |
| 18:04.38 | BulletCatcher | I'll figure out how to not distribute src/other/ares/ares_build.h . |
| 18:04.57 | BulletCatcher | You'll still need one for Windows. |
| 18:06.25 | BulletCatcher | Before going too far with this I'll do the curl and ares upgrades we didn't do for 2.4.0. |
| 18:07.38 | JeffM | I have one in the MSVC dir |
| 18:07.42 | JeffM | it's premade for windows |
| 18:08.07 | JeffM | the problem is it's picking up yours before mine |
| 18:08.56 | BulletCatcher | Assuming I can simply remove the unix one from the distribution then that should fix it for you. |
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| 18:17.18 | randomparticle | there's no xnus like good xnus |
| 18:17.30 | randomparticle | good afternoon |
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| 19:43.11 | randomparticle | i think the copyright would have expired by now |
| 19:43.49 | BulletCatcher | That's why we don't ask you for legal advice, randomparticle. :-p |
| 19:44.28 | randomparticle | well, that song's gotta be about a hundred years old at least |
| 19:45.02 | randomparticle | am pretty sure it predates marilyn monroe |
| 19:46.28 | randomparticle | oh my goodness. just looking at the wiki entry now |
| 19:46.33 | randomparticle | this is madness! |
| 19:46.40 | randomparticle | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Happy_Birthday_to_You |
| 19:46.58 | BulletCatcher | Welcome to US copyright law. |
| 19:51.34 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03bullet_catcher * r22109 10/trunk/bzflag/ (7 files in 3 dirs): Remove the -zoom command line option and support for its pixel copying "magnification." |
| 19:55.15 | randomparticle | do you think bzflag breaches any patents? |
| 19:55.39 | BulletCatcher | None that I am aware of. |
| 19:56.20 | randomparticle | how would one check? |
| 19:56.33 | randomparticle | 500,000 lines of code and probably millions of patents |
| 19:56.52 | randomparticle | sounds like quite an effort to make sure you're complying :--) |
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| 23:21.06 | BulletCatcher | The entire src/other/PDCurses hierarchy is missing from the 2.4.0 distribution. |
| 23:21.09 | BulletCatcher | That's gotta make Windows builds difficult. |
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| 23:31.44 | JeffM | BulletCatcher, not many people build bzadmin |
| 23:31.50 | JeffM | but yes |
| 23:35.25 | BulletCatcher | It is easy enough to exclude ares_build.h from the distribution. |
| 23:35.28 | BulletCatcher | I'll make that happen along with some other related fixes. |
| 23:35.44 | JeffM | configure will generate it for nixies right? |
| 23:35.47 | BulletCatcher | Yes. |
| 23:35.58 | JeffM | cool |
| 23:36.13 | BulletCatcher | It will be a win-win change. |
| 23:36.39 | JeffM | a win win for windows? |
| 23:36.46 | BulletCatcher | Something like that. |
| 23:52.53 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03bullet_catcher * r22112 10/trunk/bzflag/Makefile.am: |
| 23:52.53 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: Do not include built versions of ares_build.h and curlbuild.h in the distribution. |
| 23:52.53 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: Remove unwanted files from the distribution *before* checking for the presence of all repo files. |