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00:59.37khazhykhmmm, is it possible to force bz to run multiple displays?
01:01.26blast007depends on how your drivers set up the game
01:01.46blast007set up the display, I mean
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01:02.17blast007if the drivers set it up like a single wide screen, it should span the two
01:03.03khazhykthat's what I figured, but silly intel graphics driver doesn't let me do that, ah well
01:03.28blast007you sure?
01:03.37khazhykat least not with the dash i have atm
01:03.53blast007..dash?
01:03.54khazhykthe settings pannel
01:03.57khazhykpanel*
01:04.18blast007ah, and perhaps I'm thinking of their clone views
01:04.26blast007thing they have two ways of cloning the display
01:04.30blast007think*
01:04.42khazhykyeah, it offers cloneview, 1 display, and "extended desktop" 2-display
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04:00.46ibottimriker <~TimRiker@bzflag/projectlead/TimRiker> was last seen on IRC in channel #ldstech, 1d 3h 35m 45s ago, saying: 'auto-builds work. :) talk to tccastaldo about any details. I've been working on the status page, not made any other big changes. cleaned paths to some of the applets it about all.'.
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04:11.35L4m3rwith the current API, is it possible to detect a flag "pass"?
04:12.05L4m3rthere seems to be a data structure for it, but I don't see a reference anywhere
04:21.21JeffMI thought there was an event
04:23.00JeffMoh you don't mean a flag grab on theif do you?
04:23.59L4m3rno, when someone drops a flag on sloped or otherwise unsuitable terrain
04:24.21JeffMyeah that's not a pass that's a flag respawn
04:24.27JeffMI don't know if there is an event for that
04:24.43L4m3ris it still a respawn for a team flag?
04:24.49JeffMnot sure
04:25.03JeffMthe behavor for it changed in 3.0
04:25.11JeffMit's not really a "defined feature"
04:25.25L4m3rthe structure I mentioned was bz_FlagUpdateRecord
04:25.34L4m3rhow did the behavior change?
04:25.37JeffMthat's going to be a generic flag update
04:25.48JeffMthe definition of "bad" gemoetry changed in 3
04:25.53JeffMflags can be on more things
04:26.01JeffMor they just slide down to a side
04:26.09L4m3roh, good
04:26.23L4m3rI've never liked flag passing as a tactic
04:26.29JeffMI wrote a wiki doc on how we could probably support passing
04:26.41L4m3rlet a plugin do it
04:27.02JeffMit needs a zone
04:27.03L4m3rsince you can move flags now, I think
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04:39.39blast007can't recall if I ever fixed it for team flags. don't think you could move the team flags via the API previously.
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16:38.37benjizytoseping
16:39.01benjizytoseneed help :(
16:40.56mdskpr_ja
16:41.11benjizytoseok
16:41.17benjizytosenew pc
16:41.28benjizytosewin, bz 64bit installed
16:41.33benjizytosetrying to start:
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16:42.13benjizytose"LoadLibrary failed with error 998: Unzulässiger Zugriff auf einen Speicherbereich"
16:42.25benjizytosehi JM
16:43.04benjizytoseUnzulässig = illegitimate
16:43.23mdskpr_what library was it?
16:43.25benjizytoseZugriff = access
16:43.34benjizytoseI dont know
16:43.40benjizytoseJust trying to start bz
16:44.23mdskpr_try starting bzflag with debug, bzflag -debug -debug
16:44.43benjizytoseneed terminal for that?
16:45.05mdskpr_yes
16:45.51blast007benjizytose: what version of the game are you trying to use?
16:46.01benjizytose2.4
16:46.22blast007and which installer did you use?
16:46.39benjizytosethe one I got from bzflag.org
16:46.48blast007right, which one?
16:46.56blast007there's two
16:47.14blast00732-bit or 64-bit?
16:47.19benjizytosehttp://sourceforge.net/projects/bzflag/files/bzflag%20win32/2.4.0/
16:47.25benjizytose64Bit
16:47.45benjizytoseah I mentioned 64 earlier
16:47.59blast007right, but that doesn't mean you installed the 64-bit version of the game ;)
16:48.06blast007the 32-bit works on 64-bit windows
16:48.25blast007what is your Program Files directory?
16:48.44blast007wondering if it has some special characters in it
16:50.09blast007hmm, actually probably isn't the problem
16:50.10benjizytoseC:\Program Files (x86)\
16:50.14blast007ok
16:50.44JeffMthe installer should say what version it is
16:51.08JeffMwhat is the problem?
16:51.33benjizytoseNew pc, installed bz (win, 64 bit, 2.4.0)
16:51.40benjizytosetrying to start:
16:51.41blast007they are getting a "LoadLibrary failed with error 998: Invalid access to memory location" when starting the game
16:51.51JeffMwhat version of windows?
16:52.11benjizytoseLoadLibrary failed with error 998: Illegitimate access on a memory area
16:52.18benjizytosewin 64b
16:52.23benjizytosewin 7*
16:52.25JeffMruning as admin?
16:52.36benjizytoseI think so
16:52.48JeffMright click on the shortcut and pick "run as admin"
16:53.00JeffMand have you done all the windows updates?
16:53.11benjizytosegot the same error
16:53.19benjizytoseIm not sure about the updates
16:53.24JeffMyou are runing bzflag or bzfs?
16:53.33benjizytosebzflag
16:53.43JeffMcus bzflag does not call load library directly
16:54.00JeffMso it's probably something in the runtimes
16:54.16JeffMmdskpr_, debug won't do anything it never gets that far
16:54.25JeffMdebug is just more logs once it runs
16:54.52JeffMI would run windows update untill there are no more updates
16:55.06JeffMit is probalby an issue with the runtimes
16:55.55benjizytoseok thanks you
16:56.05benjizytose-s
16:57.18JeffMether that or it's ares/curl
16:57.22JeffMthey do some loading
16:57.36JeffMhave you tried to install the 32 bit version?
16:59.32benjizytosenot yet
16:59.39JeffMthat would be the first thing to try
16:59.44benjizytoseinstalling updates right now
16:59.48JeffMthe 64 bit version is rather pointles
16:59.49benjizytoseoh wait
16:59.50JeffMok
16:59.52JeffMupdates are good
17:00.16blast007and don't install the 32-bit version of bzflag while installing updates
17:00.26benjizytoseyes thats why
17:00.27JeffMyeah one install at a time :)
17:00.39benjizytose'wait'
17:01.08blast007might make the VC runtimes fail to install - though I think with Windows 7 the Windows Installer is smarter and will just wait for the other one to finish instead of just erroring out
17:02.35JeffMMSI is blocking so one would just wait
17:02.45JeffMbut it's still not a good idea to try
17:02.50JeffMsome isntallers bypass MSI
17:02.57blast007yep
17:03.00benjizytose55 of them, got the half now :)
17:03.15JeffMit will have more on the next reboot
17:03.18blast007benjizytose: that's just phase 1 ;)
17:03.26blast007there's updates to the updates to the updates
17:03.30JeffMfigure you probably have like an hour or so more
17:03.41JeffMalso you should check for updated video drivers
17:03.58benjizytoseyeah I remember that windows updates takes the triple time compared to the normal ordinary installation
17:04.15JeffMdepends how close you are to the last SP
17:04.45benjizytoseI have SP I says windows
17:04.51JeffMgood
17:05.08benjizytosenice....
17:05.16JeffMexcelent
17:05.19benjizytosehe's installing sound card drivers
17:05.28JeffMawesome
17:05.35benjizytosedidnt have the time yet for doing so manually
17:05.55JeffMwhy did you try to install games before you finished setting up the PC?
17:06.12benjizytosetouché
17:06.33benjizytoseits an additional audio card
17:06.45JeffMstill you didn't even install upates
17:07.30benjizytosewell I didnt take a look at the updates because I allowed windows to get updates while installing the os
17:07.43benjizytoseso I thought it would be up to date
17:07.51JeffMoh god no
17:07.53JeffMit dosn't work that way
17:08.01benjizytoseshould use macos
17:08.04benjizytoselol
17:08.17JeffMsure if you want a 500$ OS
17:08.18blast007macs have updates too :P
17:08.34JeffMand they are way behind on some of them, like video drivers
17:08.36benjizytosebut they're easier to install?
17:08.39blast007and with apple, they'll drop your support even faster ;)
17:08.43JeffMnot really
17:09.07blast007"sorry people that bought the original intel systems.. can't update to the newest OS"
17:09.12benjizytoseat least was that what I experienced when I had my macbook
17:09.17JeffMyeah macs are disposable
17:09.38blast007JeffM: thankfully, otherwise I'd never be able to get rid of 'em ;)
17:09.43JeffMheh
17:09.47JeffMbuilding bz on the mac is a pain too
17:09.58blast007it was easy on mine
17:10.06JeffMit's releases of bz are always second to last
17:10.08blast007it's like it was set up for it already or something
17:10.21JeffMnot that it's a big issue with our update schedule
17:10.28blast007true
17:10.34blast007I figure 2.4.2 will be the last
17:10.41JeffMif at all
17:10.51JeffMor will that just be "what we have when the debian package is done"
17:10.53blast007well, that's what I'll be doing for the debian release
17:10.57JeffMk
17:11.01JeffMthen yeah it'll be it
17:11.06blast007since there's fixes since 2.4.0 that need to go in
17:11.13JeffMa few
17:11.17blast007like ricochets in replays ;)
17:11.28JeffMI don't think all the things on the list got fixed
17:11.34benjizytosebrb -> reboot
17:11.36blast007nope
17:11.41JeffMcus that start was not jumped
17:11.48JeffMa shark may have been jumped
17:11.50blast007but it'll have fastmap
17:11.56JeffMooooooooooo
17:12.08JeffMno webadmin
17:12.18JeffMthat was the big one I was looking forward to
17:12.30blast007hell, we couldn't even jump the sharktank.. ran out of gas and barely made it over the ramp ;)
17:12.38blast007*spoosh*
17:12.42blast007sploosh*
17:12.54JeffMwell with the wings changes what else would you expect?
17:13.00blast007hehe
17:15.25blast007love this antivirus.  it hasn't yet detected a real virus, but it false positives the FLAC plugin DLL file for my media player..
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17:53.19benjizytoseomg
17:53.26benjizytosetakes like forever
17:56.18JeffMyour god has nothing to do with windows updates
18:01.51benjizytoseunfortunatly
18:02.27benjizytoseeven in ubuntu it's easier & faster
18:06.21JeffMthen use ubuntu
18:06.34benjizytose:)
18:07.01benjizytoseubuntus mouse acceleration is not good for bz
18:07.13benjizytosebrb again
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18:13.45benjizytoseok
18:13.50benjizytosejeff?
18:13.57JeffMben
18:14.12benjizytoseit says that windows is up to date
18:14.29blast007does the game work now?
18:14.31JeffMdoes the 64 bit bz run?
18:15.14benjizytoseeven though he failed on some updates as I can see on the update64 no
18:15.18benjizytoseoops lol
18:15.27JeffMit failed?
18:15.50blast007I'd say try installing it again to make sure it actually has the runtimes installed
18:15.56benjizytoseeven though he failed on some updates as I can see on the update development
18:16.17JeffMwhat updates failed?
18:16.24blast007some updates are bound to fail, such as the IE8 updates when you're installing IE9
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18:17.54JeffMyeah you can try installing again
18:17.59JeffMor install the 32 bit one
18:18.04JeffM64 bit one is just larger
18:18.08JeffMnot realy "better"
18:18.14benjizytosephoning one sec
18:27.37benjizytose32 works still phoning though
18:28.18JeffMcool then there will be no point in making a 64 bit 2.4.2
18:35.43benjizytose:)
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18:47.11JeffMtry the 64 bit one now just for fun
18:51.43benjizytosedidnt work
18:51.52JeffMwierd
18:52.17benjizytoseI guess the 32 one wouldve worked without updates aswell
18:54.19blast007benjizytose: and you ran the 64-bit installer again after all the updates?
19:03.59benjizytoseno I didnt yet
19:04.09benjizytosewill do that in 10 minutes
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19:24.22benjizytosestill not working
19:24.48blast007fun
19:24.50blast007oh well
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