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| 04:52.06 | CIA-104 | opencombat: 03JeffM2501 * r95 10/trunk/unit0/ (9 files in 4 dirs): |
| 04:52.06 | CIA-104 | opencombat: have manager arbitrate link between coordinator and instances |
| 04:52.06 | CIA-104 | opencombat: add code for manager to start and kill game instances |
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| 06:42.09 | I_Died_Once | looking forward to a playable release |
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| 13:39.16 | Quol | oooh - I didn't know sourceforge offered Git too.. |
| 13:40.58 | ruskie | yup |
| 13:41.02 | ruskie | for a while |
| 13:41.39 | Quol | heh - new for me :) |
| 13:49.50 | blast007 | though it's probably not as nice as using github.. I imagine forking a project is much more complicated on freenode, and I don't know if they have the nice pull request system in place. |
| 13:49.59 | blast007 | s/freenode/sourceforge/ |
| 13:50.37 | Quol | blast007: ya - that's the first thing I thought of...but since it's still "beta" - I will cut them slack and give them a ++ for offereing an alternative |
| 13:51.11 | Quol | I guess they see much of their userbase moving to github...so perhaps they have no choice? |
| 13:55.43 | blast007 | I don't see them as a github competitor ;) |
| 13:56.41 | blast007 | I had initially used SF for hosting my Mercurial repos, but quickly realized the limitations of their service and moved to Bitbucket. |
| 14:01.43 | Quol | ya - I checked out bitbucket too...pretty slick |
| 14:02.28 | Quol | although - for open source stuff - I github makes more sense (unlimited free users vs 5) |
| 14:02.49 | Quol | missed the word *think* in there :) |
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| 15:09.59 | ruskie | blast007, I guess it depends if you want an extra layer no top of git or not ;) |
| 15:10.33 | ruskie | I generally don't want it ;) |
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| 15:37.01 | trepan | blast007: i finally switched my default from hg to git repos myself - it seems to have won the war |
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| 16:40.10 | blast007 | Quol: for open-source, there isn't a limit with Bitbucket. It's only their private repos that they limit. |
| 16:41.31 | blast007 | and the limit on their private repos is just the number of users that can access it. |
| 16:43.45 | blast007 | so in that respect, they beat Github, which requires that you pay to have private repos at all (and then they limit how many you can have). |
| 16:46.36 | blast007 | (Bitbucket's free plan is better than Github's $12/month plan) |
| 17:10.43 | Quol | ooh - I thought it was a 5 commiter limit on public repo's too |
| 17:10.47 | Quol | good to know...thx |
| 17:11.04 | JeffM | google code now has the option to convert my svn to git or hg |
| 17:16.11 | Quol | so, my CTO just gave my group an order to start a pilot which removes 1500 people's access to microsoft office and only allows them to use libre-office for the next 3 months (without talking/warning the users first)...ya....this will go well |
| 17:18.55 | blast007 | lol |
| 17:18.59 | blast007 | have fun, Quol |
| 17:19.00 | JeffM | wow |
| 17:19.59 | khonkhortisan | Where's excel? click calc. Where's powerpoint? click on the impress icon. Where's word? click the writer button |
| 17:20.24 | blast007 | khonkhortisan: that'll be the easy support calls :P |
| 17:32.25 | Quol | most of the other will start with #$*&^#*$&^# and end with #$&*^#*$^#*^$*&^#$*&#^$*&#^$*&#^$*& |
| 17:32.35 | Quol | feels sorry for his helpdesk folks |
| 17:36.47 | blast007 | Quol: and I'm assuming there's no support contract involved? |
| 17:37.38 | blast007 | iirc, I have Libre-Office support through our school licensing with Novell, though we don't actually end up using Libre-Office. |
| 17:37.54 | ruskie | heh |
| 17:38.00 | Quol | between the departments on I.T., no. Between I.T. and MIcrosoft, yes. But because of the MS audit that we are going through... |
| 17:38.11 | ruskie | or they'll start using live office or google docs |
| 17:39.01 | ruskie | I do know I'm liking google docs(we move do to google apps for business for email) |
| 17:39.17 | ruskie | the word processor is a get-out-of-my-way type affair |
| 17:39.26 | Quol | no, no "cloud" office for this company. in late 2011 I did a cost analysis for the company to move things to "the cloud", and it isn't feasable for us. THat and this company wants it's data in house |
| 17:39.27 | ruskie | so I don't constantly have things randomly change unlike msoffice |
| 17:39.52 | ruskie | Quol, well are you blocking google docs/live office on the perimeter? |
| 17:40.08 | ruskie | else users will just use what they can if they don't like what they have |
| 17:40.28 | ruskie | though it does sound like an interesting experiment |
| 17:40.30 | Quol | yup - as well as all personal e-mail sites etc.. (that and file shareing/social sites etc..) |
| 17:40.35 | ruskie | heh |
| 17:40.51 | ruskie | maybe in-hous cloud libre office would be interesting |
| 17:41.06 | ruskie | frankly I'd be happy if we used open document formats at work |
| 17:42.09 | Quol | ya - me too, but 95% (maybe 99%) of sales people with their 10 year old excel sheets with custom macros pulling data in and out of crappy access databases thrown on different file servers...good luck making that work in calc :) |
| 17:42.59 | blast007 | ruskie: Microsoft Office supports open-formats |
| 17:43.38 | Quol | we ahve one department (which we offered to bulild a custom application for - but they rejected the idea), actually has over 100 thousand excel files in a directory on our file server to "organize" their stuff |
| 17:43.50 | Quol | that's the kind of users we have here :) |
| 17:44.52 | ruskie | blast007, yes amazingly it does... BUT here's the good part: "Our customers don't use it so we won't use it" |
| 17:45.08 | blast007 | ruskie: the default format is open |
| 17:45.13 | ruskie | no |
| 17:45.15 | blast007 | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Office_Open_XML |
| 17:45.17 | ruskie | ooxml is not open |
| 17:45.25 | ruskie | it has blobery bits |
| 17:45.30 | blast007 | close enough |
| 17:45.47 | ruskie | it's about as close as nvidia linux driver ;) |
| 17:46.29 | blast007 | shrugs |
| 17:46.36 | ruskie | it's sad that a supposedly open xml format is so poorly implemented and even non-interchangable |
| 17:46.45 | ruskie | take a document from 2007 and try it in 2010 and you get crap |
| 17:46.48 | ruskie | some the other way around |
| 17:46.52 | ruskie | ooxml that is |
| 17:46.56 | ruskie | or even xls |
| 17:47.33 | ruskie | I spent once 4 hours trying to get some graphs in excel 2007 to work... then send it off to a person with 2010 |
| 17:47.36 | ruskie | opens it... |
| 17:47.38 | ruskie | graphs are blank |
| 17:47.41 | ruskie | YAY |
| 17:47.45 | blast007 | heh |
| 17:48.15 | ruskie | so yeah... my boss is frustrated with me because I keep sending plain text stuff |
| 17:48.19 | ruskie | or every so often html |
| 17:48.29 | ruskie | doesn't want PDF... because "I might need to edit it" |
| 17:48.57 | ruskie | I might do a .doc every so often... though now with google docs I just download as microsoft word |
| 17:48.58 | blast007 | send ODT then |
| 17:49.02 | ruskie | hahaha |
| 17:49.04 | ruskie | and I'm done with it |
| 17:50.22 | ruskie | just suggesting it once got me: our customers don't use this |
| 17:50.59 | blast007 | bleh. hasn't that been supported since 2007? |
| 17:51.10 | blast007 | or at least 2007 with some SP |
| 17:51.16 | ruskie | last I checked poorly |
| 17:51.30 | ruskie | i.e. you open it up and stuff is missing, setup wrong etc... |
| 17:51.38 | ruskie | I really really wish I coould just use PDFs |
| 17:51.39 | blast007 | plain text it is, then ;) |
| 17:52.12 | Quol | I keep telling my managers that we wouldn't have this problem with pen's and fax machines |
| 17:52.12 | ruskie | Quol, I agree |
| 17:53.07 | ruskie | I have considered doing something like attaching: plaintext, odt, PDF, HTML, doc and docx |
| 17:53.17 | ruskie | here pick your file |
| 17:53.29 | blast007 | "Hold on, I'm faxing you this 300 page hand-written spreadsheet. Get some tape and scissors while it sends." |
| 17:53.43 | ruskie | hehehe |
| 17:53.53 | ruskie | how did the world work without spreadsheets |
| 17:53.56 | ruskie | ohh wait... it just did |
| 17:57.49 | Quol | on another note: I want one of these! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HuC6q9kbryw&feature=player_embedded#! |
| 18:00.15 | JeffM | just some servoes and an arduino |
| 18:00.51 | JeffM | it's 2 hex walkers mounted on top of each other |
| 18:01.25 | Quol | throw some LED's on there to make it pulse and glow...would be cool |
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| 22:40.06 | ts3d | JeffM: Does unit0 repace P2501? |
| 22:40.09 | ts3d | replace* |
| 22:40.31 | JeffM | I may call the first real game p2501 |
| 22:40.52 | JeffM | unit0 may not work |
| 22:41.04 | JeffM | it's a testbed for the new server infrastructure |
| 22:41.14 | JeffM | the current p2501 code is structured more like bzflag |
| 22:41.42 | ts3d | I was just wondering since I pulled from the repo and it disappared |
| 22:41.51 | JeffM | I moved it from a branch |
| 22:41.53 | JeffM | to a branch |
| 22:41.57 | JeffM | so it's not gone |
| 22:42.01 | JeffM | it's just not in active dev |
| 22:42.08 | JeffM | it does a few things poorly |
| 22:42.20 | JeffM | Unit0 has a better simulation core |
| 22:42.53 | JeffM | it works more like halflife |
| 22:43.05 | ts3d | vc# 08 or 10? |
| 22:43.09 | JeffM | currently it's simulating 250ms of lag and doing perfect prediction |
| 22:43.15 | JeffM | I'm in 10 now for it |
| 22:43.25 | JeffM | 08 has too many drawing issues on windows 7 |
| 22:43.32 | JeffM | and mono supports .net for better |
| 22:43.38 | JeffM | .net 4 I mean |
| 22:44.19 | ts3d | Looks great from the videos. nice job |
| 22:44.27 | JeffM | the graphics are butt simple |
| 22:44.34 | JeffM | that's not it's goal |
| 22:46.30 | JeffM | it should build in monodev for people that want speach free compilers |
| 22:46.53 | ts3d | OpenTK is not bundled correct? |
| 22:46.57 | JeffM | no |
| 22:47.01 | JeffM | that's the only thing not included |
| 22:55.58 | JeffM | tho I guess I could include it if there is a problem |
| 22:59.49 | blast007 | probably better not to bundle third party libs |
| 23:00.04 | JeffM | possibly |
| 23:00.16 | JeffM | setting up the assembly dirs on monodev is kinda a pain |
| 23:00.26 | JeffM | I included lidgrin for that reason |
| 23:01.44 | ts3d | No problem. Just checking |
| 23:03.49 | blast007 | hmm, and I guess the stuff you're including probably isn't in linux repos anyway |
| 23:04.19 | JeffM | nope |
| 23:04.36 | JeffM | no curl, no ares, none of that "lib" stuff ;) |
| 23:04.54 | JeffM | all it needs so far is opentk and lidgrin |
| 23:05.02 | JeffM | at some point it'll need dragonogg |
| 23:05.07 | JeffM | and that will need mods |