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| 02:22.20 | cpast | hi |
| 02:22.36 | cpast | my bzfs install doesn't want to work at all |
| 02:22.46 | cpast | when i start it, it immediately terminates |
| 02:50.26 | cpast | hello? |
| 02:51.05 | JeffM | what OS? |
| 02:51.10 | cpast | ubuntu |
| 02:51.16 | JeffM | how are you starting it? |
| 02:51.21 | cpast | "bzfs" |
| 02:51.35 | JeffM | and it dosn't give any errors in the output? |
| 02:51.40 | cpast | nope |
| 02:51.43 | JeffM | wierd |
| 02:51.51 | cpast | shows the "no acceleration limits" message, and terminates |
| 02:51.51 | JeffM | you built it from source? |
| 02:51.56 | cpast | yeah |
| 02:52.22 | JeffM | did you have an older version installed before you built from soruce? |
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| 02:52.56 | cpast | no |
| 02:53.02 | cpast | dont think so |
| 02:53.19 | JeffM | try bzfs -d -d -d -d |
| 02:53.34 | JeffM | does that give any aditional errors or messages? |
| 02:53.52 | cpast | says "options: 10" |
| 02:54.09 | cpast | and at the end, says "shutting down server: uptime" |
| 02:54.20 | JeffM | are you passing in a config or anything? |
| 02:54.29 | cpast | nope |
| 02:55.00 | JeffM | and did you get the source from a tarbal or svn? |
| 02:55.05 | cpast | svn |
| 02:55.33 | JeffM | let me see why we would shut down for that reason |
| 02:56.53 | JeffM | the server has a network card and is connected to some network? |
| 02:57.04 | JeffM | cus it's acting like the main networking loop is failing |
| 02:57.24 | cpast | yeah |
| 02:57.44 | cpast | i tried different ports, still didn't work |
| 02:59.04 | JeffM | when you ran configure during your build, did it have any errors about missing system libs? |
| 02:59.37 | cpast | not that i recall |
| 02:59.39 | cpast | checking again |
| 03:00.57 | JeffM | it's possible that something is crashing and calling the sigint or sigterm |
| 03:01.02 | cpast | no complaints |
| 03:01.05 | JeffM | hard to say |
| 03:01.31 | cpast | just says "./configure complete, type 'make' to begin building" |
| 03:01.36 | JeffM | do you have gdb installed? |
| 03:01.40 | cpast | yeah |
| 03:01.50 | cpast | but i don't really know how to use it |
| 03:02.02 | JeffM | tpe gdb bzfs |
| 03:02.14 | cpast | ok\ |
| 03:02.16 | JeffM | then when it prompts you in gdb tyope "run" |
| 03:02.41 | cpast | Program received signal SIGTERM, Terminated. |
| 03:02.46 | JeffM | yeah there we go |
| 03:02.47 | cpast | 0xb7feefc0 in _dl_debug_state () from /lib/ld-linux.so.2 |
| 03:03.06 | JeffM | did it say anything else |
| 03:03.20 | cpast | 0xb7feefc0 in _dl_debug_state () from /lib/ld-linux.so.2 |
| 03:03.23 | cpast | and that was it |
| 03:03.23 | JeffM | or if you type stack |
| 03:03.28 | JeffM | does it show anything |
| 03:03.57 | cpast | wait |
| 03:04.20 | cpast | i accidentally killed gdb, restarted it, and now got a different second line |
| 03:05.10 | cpast | 0xb7d3e911 in free () from /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libc.so.6 |
| 03:05.26 | JeffM | well you can try to build bzfs with more debug info |
| 03:05.32 | JeffM | and run in gdb again |
| 03:05.41 | JeffM | do a configure --enable-debug |
| 03:05.46 | JeffM | then build again |
| 03:06.01 | cpast | ok |
| 03:06.05 | JeffM | we are calling something in the system that is crashing |
| 03:06.16 | JeffM | but gdb dosn't know what it is |
| 03:06.23 | JeffM | the libc is very low level |
| 03:09.54 | cpast | huh |
| 03:10.00 | cpast | the system had like no disk space left |
| 03:10.04 | cpast | may be connected |
| 03:10.32 | JeffM | oh |
| 03:10.34 | JeffM | yeah |
| 03:11.03 | JeffM | is it a real machine or a vps? |
| 03:11.10 | cpast | real |
| 03:11.17 | cpast | not my main one, though |
| 03:11.29 | JeffM | you probably want to free up some space |
| 03:11.35 | cpast | yep |
| 03:11.37 | cpast | doing that now |
| 03:15.06 | cpast | ok |
| 03:15.21 | cpast | there was one file that used about 90% of disk space |
| 03:15.26 | cpast | that file is now gone |
| 03:15.41 | JeffM | wow |
| 03:16.37 | JeffM | does the server run now? |
| 03:16.50 | cpast | it's still doing the make |
| 03:17.03 | JeffM | oh, I bet it'll run normaly now |
| 03:17.16 | JeffM | opening network sockets may have tried to allocate disk space |
| 03:17.22 | cpast | yeah |
| 03:17.41 | cpast | this is not my finest moment in using linux properly |
| 03:18.13 | JeffM | what was the huge file? |
| 03:18.45 | cpast | a nohup output fiel |
| 03:18.47 | cpast | *file |
| 03:18.59 | cpast | interestingly enough, generated by the server |
| 03:19.04 | cpast | and never cleared |
| 03:19.16 | cpast | i will not make that mistake again |
| 03:24.07 | JeffM | if it crashes again, runing in gdb should show more info now that you have debug symbols |
| 03:25.02 | cpast | ok |
| 03:25.04 | cpast | huh |
| 03:25.11 | cpast | so my hard drive had been 100% full |
| 03:25.25 | cpast | and i'd guess it's been that way for some time |
| 03:25.38 | cpast | how did it handle it when i created new files? |
| 03:25.54 | JeffM | it may have failed |
| 03:26.00 | JeffM | or put them in swap |
| 03:26.23 | cpast | well, it's gotten better |
| 03:26.33 | cpast | now it shows "uptime 1 sec", not just "uptime" |
| 03:26.36 | cpast | but it still dies |
| 03:26.51 | JeffM | ok run gdb bzfs |
| 03:26.54 | JeffM | then type run |
| 03:27.06 | cpast | Program received signal SIGTERM, Terminated. |
| 03:27.10 | cpast | 0xb7fdf424 in __kernel_vsyscall () |
| 03:27.13 | JeffM | if it gives you the same info when it dies, then type statck |
| 03:27.17 | JeffM | stack |
| 03:27.18 | JeffM | sorry |
| 03:27.32 | cpast | huh |
| 03:27.46 | JeffM | is it stilling at a gdb prompt? |
| 03:27.52 | cpast | says "undefined command: 'stack'. Try 'help'." |
| 03:27.52 | JeffM | sitting |
| 03:27.56 | JeffM | hmm |
| 03:27.59 | JeffM | let me look again |
| 03:28.40 | JeffM | I don't normaly use gdb, so I have to look up it's commands |
| 03:29.06 | JeffM | try typing backtrace |
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| 03:29.31 | cpast | ok |
| 03:29.37 | cpast | #0 0xb7fdf424 in __kernel_vsyscall () |
| 03:29.41 | cpast | #1 0xb7d96e9d in select () from /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libc.so.6 |
| 03:29.46 | cpast | #2 0x0809811f in main (argc=384, argv=0x0) at bzfs.cxx:6147 |
| 03:29.49 | JeffM | it'll be long, pastebin it |
| 03:29.58 | JeffM | oh tha'ts it? |
| 03:29.59 | JeffM | wow |
| 03:30.18 | cpast | just looking at it, it looks kinda like my system's messed up |
| 03:30.22 | JeffM | yeah it's dying when we try to open a network socket |
| 03:30.23 | JeffM | yeah |
| 03:30.45 | JeffM | I don't think your system is happy |
| 03:31.02 | cpast | i think i should back up the files and reinstall the os |
| 03:31.05 | JeffM | that line in bzfs.cxx is where we wait and listen for the first network traffic |
| 03:36.54 | cpast | so is my os screwed? |
| 03:38.34 | JeffM | something is wrong with it |
| 03:38.38 | JeffM | it's not bzflag |
| 03:38.47 | cpast | yeah |
| 03:38.48 | JeffM | we are asking for it to tell us when someone connects |
| 03:38.49 | cpast | ok |
| 03:38.52 | JeffM | and it then it crashes :) |
| 03:39.39 | cpast | ok |
| 03:39.41 | cpast | reinstall time |
| 03:45.04 | blast007 | cpast: regarding the disk being "100% full", it might not have been |
| 03:45.23 | blast007 | iirc, file systems like ext2/3/4 reserve a portion of the drive for root, something like 5% |
| 03:45.38 | JeffM | it was still not good to be that full |
| 03:45.43 | blast007 | yeah |
| 03:50.26 | JeffM | tries to install ironpython |
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| 17:39.26 | CIA-104 | opencombat: add python scripting system |
| 17:39.26 | CIA-104 | opencombat: use scripts to define gameinfo object before sending it out to new players. |
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| 22:58.01 | Propane_Tank | anyone know of any cheap dedicated server places? |
| 23:04.39 | L4m3r | your closet/basement ;) |
| 23:05.08 | blast007 | Propane_Tank: define "cheap" |
| 23:05.55 | JeffM | I use burst.net and it's pretty cheap, 6$ a month |
| 23:05.59 | Propane_Tank | something like thrust, a lot of bang for your buck. btw, with thrust, choose the east coast datacenter, least for me I get the fastest download speed with their test file at 4mb/s, all the others were around 1mb/s |
| 23:06.31 | JeffM | I have 2 servers thru burst, west coast and chicago, the ping is very similar to both |
| 23:06.43 | Propane_Tank | i might not need a dedicated server. i host my minecraft server on windows in their west coast datacenter, and i'm gonna move it to the east coast datacenter because my latency is quite high as of the last few months |
| 23:07.05 | JeffM | do you need real dedicated or just decent vps? |
| 23:07.27 | Propane_Tank | either or. i just need something where i get a quality network connection. |
| 23:07.32 | Propane_Tank | and i would prefer windows |
| 23:07.38 | JeffM | burst does windows vps |
| 23:07.42 | Propane_Tank | with thrust you get windows for nothing more than linux |
| 23:07.42 | JeffM | it's a little more |
| 23:07.49 | JeffM | like 9$ a month |
| 23:07.55 | JeffM | ahh |
| 23:08.03 | blast007 | Propane_Tank: here ya go! http://www.softlayer.com/dedicated/single-processor-multi-core/ |
| 23:08.10 | Propane_Tank | i'll be back. |
| 23:08.18 | Propane_Tank | in ~15min |
| 23:08.19 | JeffM | has not seen blast's thrust vps perform very well :) |
| 23:08.29 | blast007 | it performs well, when it's up :P |
| 23:08.41 | JeffM | exactly |
| 23:08.45 | Propane_Tank | i have a linux box in thrusts east coast datacenter and that one performs really good |
| 23:08.55 | JeffM | how often does it go down? |
| 23:09.07 | JeffM | but it sounds like you are already decided on thrust |
| 23:09.08 | blast007 | every few weeks |
| 23:09.09 | JeffM | so just do that |
| 23:09.33 | blast007 | Propane_Tank: why not just get "minecraft hosting" from somewhere? |
| 23:09.59 | blast007 | just pay for how many slots you need |
| 23:10.12 | JeffM | yeah a bunch of hosts do that |
| 23:10.40 | blast007 | http://www.minecraftserverhost.net/minecraft_plans.html |
| 23:11.05 | JeffM | and you can totaly host minecraft on linux |
| 23:13.01 | blast007 | http://redstonehost.com/ <-- $13/month gets you the low end plan there |
| 23:13.26 | blast007 | less if you pay for multiple months |
| 23:29.53 | Propane_Tank | haha. funny one blast007 with your softlayer link. almost fell over :P |
| 23:30.02 | blast007 | ;D |
| 23:30.12 | blast007 | that's their cheap ones |
| 23:30.58 | Propane_Tank | xlhost is cheaper than that and thats a bit too much for me |
| 23:31.25 | Propane_Tank | for both my linux and windows vps at thrust, i pay $40 per month |
| 23:31.37 | Propane_Tank | also, my windows vps runs a webdav server along with minecraft and a proxy |
| 23:31.47 | Propane_Tank | thats why i want windows, for the proxy software |
| 23:32.13 | Propane_Tank | i shutdown my proxy software tho for the break, i'll start it back up monday night before i go to bed |
| 23:36.46 | Propane_Tank | burst.net is about the same, just a bit more for the money, but are they single core or multicore that you get access to? |
| 23:36.58 | JeffM | it's a vps, so I don't know |
| 23:39.29 | JeffM | cpuinfo says it's a 4 core xeon |
| 23:41.58 | Propane_Tank | hmmm. cause i think when i was at neosurge i only got one core i think |
| 23:42.11 | JeffM | most vps only give you a single core |
| 23:42.28 | Propane_Tank | yea, i only for a 2.4ghz i think single core allotted to my vps |
| 23:42.37 | Propane_Tank | i get 4 at thrust |
| 23:43.08 | Propane_Tank | webmin shows i have four on my linux vps and at neo it said i had one |
| 23:43.16 | Propane_Tank | windows shows 4 cores in task manager |
| 23:43.29 | JeffM | sure so does the linux cpuinfo |
| 23:43.41 | JeffM | the hypervisor will limit what you can do with them |
| 23:44.09 | Propane_Tank | does burst accept paypal? |
| 23:44.12 | JeffM | yeah |
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| 23:44.25 | JeffM | what hypervisor is thrust using for windows vps? |
| 23:47.48 | JeffM | and does thrust give you a CPU time Gauarante |
| 23:48.46 | Propane_Tank | i got the perfect idea. burst has a free first month on a dedi. get that, once it expires, cancel and go back to vps |
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| 23:49.09 | JeffM | you should make sure there are no terms |
| 23:49.18 | spldart | right/ |
| 23:49.20 | spldart | ? |
| 23:49.21 | JeffM | like, free if you pay for the next 3 months |
| 23:49.37 | spldart | don |
| 23:49.39 | spldart | t get burned |
| 23:50.08 | Propane_Tank | they make you pay the first bill. assuming tho they offer refunds. and they strickly watch you for tos following |
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| 23:50.21 | Propane_Tank | and you have to pay a $1 setup fee (not bad) |
| 23:50.53 | JeffM | windows add 15$ a month to the cost for a dedicated |
| 23:50.58 | JeffM | since they can't use the datacenter edition |
| 23:51.34 | Propane_Tank | wait, says may cancel anytime prior to start of second month to not be billed furthur |
| 23:51.52 | JeffM | yeah they don't give things away for free :) |
| 23:52.02 | JeffM | it's going to be a discount IF you stick with it |
| 23:54.12 | spldart | my god... was just on a 1-800 number less than an hour ago to save myself from the charges of a 'free trial' |
| 23:55.16 | spldart | trust no one |